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fuze
12-16-2012, 10:10
There are so many forums here, I wasnt sure where to ask this... but what exactly would happen if there was an assault weapons ban?

That means if I buy an Ar15, i'll have to turn it over to the police? If I spend 1k on a rifle, Ill lose all of my money?

I know some of you will say "im not turning my guns over," etc etc but im just wondering what the law will say.

W420Hunter
12-16-2012, 10:20
In the grand scheme of things nothing happens. Unless they somehow push through something against a grandfather clause the only thing that will happen is the price of the guns will go up because they cannot make new ones. Assault weapons ban only bands creation of new guns not ownership. Once again this is boring something attacking a grandfather clause.

jeanderson
12-16-2012, 10:39
A. Right before the ban goes into effect, gun stores will have their inventories of AR-15 type rifles cleaned out.
B. Crazies will still kill innocent and unarmed victims in the same numbers and just as often.
C. Lawmakers will eventually see the futility of the law and it will be repealed, either in whole or part.

JBnTX
12-16-2012, 10:41
There are so many forums here, I wasnt sure where to ask this... but what exactly would happen if there was an assault weapons ban?

That means if I buy an Ar15, i'll have to turn it over to the police? If I spend 1k on a rifle, Ill lose all of my money?

I know some of you will say "im not turning my guns over," etc etc but im just wondering what the law will say.

Historically gun bans have only affected the future purchase, possession, sale, importation and manufacture of the targeted firearms.

Once you own it, a ban probably won't affect you. We're nowhere near gun confiscation in this country.

Now is the time to buy your AR type rifle.
Like right now today, while you can still find one.

oneuglygun
12-16-2012, 10:53
Shouldn't be much of an issue if it works as well as all the new drug laws inacted in the last 30 years !

beforeobamabans
12-16-2012, 10:55
How good are you with slugs in your shotgun?

fx77
12-16-2012, 10:57
Prospectively nothing on the ban can be manuf. bought or sold..Everywhere will by like NY and partly like CA...pre ban manuf. will be grandfathered..

But ammo ..don't know what they will do about that...

Microstamping?? hmmm?

Cavalry Doc
12-16-2012, 11:02
In the past, AWB's only affected future imports and purchases. This time may be different. This time, there will be many on the left that will push for rounding them all up and melting them down. It may also not just be rifles with military appearance, but all semi automatics.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/rossi_circut_judge_44-tfb.jpg

That is a semi-automatic, with a 6 round rotary magazine. Could be banned & required to be turned in.


Of course, no one here can tell you what will eventually become law, anything is possible. So yes, you risk being out a grand if you go buy an AR today, but the risk is not so great that I wouldn't hurry up and get it if you ever want to own one. It might be your last chance.

Kirishiac
12-16-2012, 11:05
If you even have something that resembles a mandatory gun turn-in that would incite violence and I don't see that happening especially right now with the country so divided. I think a worst case scenario would be the 94 AWB. I do think something is coming (mandatory FFL for all tranfers, 3+ day waits, etc) because the emotional cost is very high and the dems know how to exploit it. Also, if nothing is done and the next time this happens we as gun owners will be in an even worse position to preserve our rights.

427
12-16-2012, 11:14
There are so many forums here, I wasnt sure where to ask this... but what exactly would happen if there was an assault weapons ban?

That means if I buy an Ar15, i'll have to turn it over to the police? If I spend 1k on a rifle, Ill lose all of my money?

I know some of you will say "im not turning my guns over," etc etc but im just wondering what the law will say.
Who's going to know what the law will say until we see the bill in final form?

We have a pretty good idea based on bills that have been recently introduced, though.

I'll be willing to be there will be a lot of non compliance.

Cavalry Doc
12-16-2012, 11:15
If you even have something that resembles a mandatory gun turn-in that would incite violence and I don't see that happening especially right now with the country so divided. I think a worst case scenario would be the 94 AWB. I do think something is coming (mandatory FFL for all tranfers, 3+ day waits, etc) because the emotional cost is very high and the dems know how to exploit it. Also, if nothing is done and the next time this happens we as gun owners will be in an even worse position to preserve our rights.

What kind of violence do you think would avert an ordered turn in? None. It would accelerate it.

Some will hide them.
Some will protest.
Some will cry.
Some will act violently, and throw gas on the fire.
Some may actually band together, and tell the government to "Come and get 'em", and they will be crushed with overwhelming force.

The time to stop this is now, the legislators need to know that we will not vote for anyone that votes for more gun control.

Atlas
12-16-2012, 11:29
So many assume for example that a future law would ban semi-auto magazines of greater than 10-round capacity, because that was the '94 law.

I assume nothing.
I bought not only magazines over the years but parts also.
Anything can happen.

My prediction is a punitive tax on ammo, perhaps even the requirement of a license to purchase ammo or parts.

It's so easy to declare that you will never comply with a ban. but if the restrictions are continually increased while the penalties become more and more severe, how many of us will risk 15-20 years in a federal penitentiary for retaining ownership of a Glock or an AR-15?

fuze
12-16-2012, 12:25
You guys answered pretty much everything I was wondering. Thanks!

Ruble Noon
12-16-2012, 12:30
There are so many forums here, I wasnt sure where to ask this... but what exactly would happen if there was an assault weapons ban?

That means if I buy an Ar15, i'll have to turn it over to the police? If I spend 1k on a rifle, Ill lose all of my money?

I know some of you will say "im not turning my guns over," etc etc but im just wondering what the law will say.

Well, if it was like the last one, pretty much nothing. You could still buy pre-ban hi-cap magazines, pre-ban rifles with shoulder things that go up, all at exorbitant prices of course.

evlbruce
12-16-2012, 12:38
Depends on the ban. What's most likely on a federal level is we get an expanded version of the AWB. The antis want to ban personal sales and end gun shows, they might just get both.

It wouldn't surprise me if some states like MA do de facto bans and if you want to continue live there you'll have to turn 'em in.

Atlas
12-16-2012, 12:43
Well, if it was like the last one, pretty much nothing. You could still buy pre-ban hi-cap magazines, pre-ban rifles with shoulder things that go up, all at exorbitant prices of course.

That's a big "if".
If they can muster the political power to do so I believe they'll eclipse the previous '94 ban by a significant margin...
With no "sunset" provision.

rgregoryb
12-16-2012, 15:06
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/224817_10151292253872365_1887104473_n.jpg

Chuck TX
12-16-2012, 15:11
I believe what will happen will vary by state.

cowboy1964
12-16-2012, 18:09
im just wondering what the law will say.

What are we, psychic??

W420Hunter
12-16-2012, 18:19
What are we, psychic??


I am psycho does that count?

onebigelf
12-16-2012, 18:58
I'll probably move to Texas.

Seriously. What is the tipping point? At what point do we decide that a long train of abuses have but one goal, to sink us in absolute despotism? What do we do about it? The point of this country was supposed to be that the rights of the individual are safe, protected from government and from the majority. That's why we aren't supposed to be a democracy. First they start telling us we are a democracy. Then the media acts like an ad agency and convinces the masses to follow along with this grand socialist plan. And since we're a democracy, the will of the majority can deprive us of whatever they want. When is enough?

John

concretefuzzynuts
12-16-2012, 19:01
Don't be lazy. Contact your Senator and Congressmen and Women. If they are anti gun, thats even more reason to speak out.

Be polite, clear and try to be non partisan. In fact, present yourself as an independent voter and state how disturbing a ban of any kind will be to you.

series1811
12-17-2012, 05:37
With the idiots who put Obama in office in the first place, all fired up by him, who knows what could happen.