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vettely
12-20-2012, 21:24
I guess buying something without the prancing ponies does not really matter right about now. No?

mjkeat
12-20-2012, 22:33
Yep. Let's purchase any POS just because the world is coming to an end as we know it. No not really, quality is always a factor.

XDRoX
12-20-2012, 22:35
Today I saw a stripped lower for $90. It had one of the trigger guard ears broken off :rofl:

How's that for non mil spec?

fnfalman
12-20-2012, 23:01
Even if you were to buy a Prancing Pony, it still doesn't mean that you're getting "mil-spec".

.45 Combat
12-20-2012, 23:29
Getting a Leo marked Colt is mil spec.

Leper
12-21-2012, 02:45
Even if you were to buy a Prancing Pony, it still doesn't mean that you're getting "mil-spec".
What prancing pony other than Colt is out there? A current Colt is mil-spec and a better deal (non panic buy priced) than most of these cheap AR's that I see being justified here.

Big Bird
12-21-2012, 03:54
Getting a Leo marked Colt is mil spec.


No its not. Auto sear?

Its something other than Milspec. If it were Milspec it would be marked M4... Not LEO 6920 BS

mgs
12-21-2012, 05:20
Even if you were to buy a Prancing Pony, it still doesn't mean that you're getting "mil-spec".

That is very correct. Colt uses plenty of commercial parts and some dumb unique ones.

M&P15T
12-21-2012, 05:37
No its not. Auto sear?

Its something other than Milspec. If it were Milspec it would be marked M4... Not LEO 6920 BS

You do know that Colt is labeling their rifles "M4" now, don't you? LE6920 is long gone.

Still, dosen't mean anything.

Just to properly answer the OP's question, no "Mil Spec" doesn't mean anything to most panic buyers right at this very moment. It does to other folks, but those folks pretty much already have their ARs.

chief63
12-21-2012, 05:38
It never mattered

Big Bird
12-21-2012, 06:13
You do know that Colt is labeling their rifles "M4" now, don't you? LE6920 is long gone.

Still, dosen't mean anything.

Just to properly answer the OP's question, no "Mil Spec" doesn't mean anything to most panic buyers right at this very moment. It does to other folks, but those folks pretty much already have their ARs.

Oh Goody...so now we have "pretend" M4's. :rofl:

Tango 1Zero
12-21-2012, 06:28
Same crap as back in 94 ban. Hell Armalites and Bushmasters were the top of the pile.
People werent paying the prices collectors wanted for colts. Especially with their off center pins some had.

fuzzy03cls
12-21-2012, 07:02
It never mattered
For 90% of real world civialian use....

Funny how the POS bushmaster seemed to work just fine...:whistling:

Leper
12-21-2012, 09:03
For 90% of real world civialian use....

Funny how the POS bushmaster seemed to work just fine...:whistling:
That is actually correct. For those that need range or safe queens it does not matter. For those of us that have these guns to possibly save our lives mil-spec or better matters.

Bushmaster is a low end company. Nothing wrong with owning one but lets not pretend they are anything other than what they are.

Big Bird
12-21-2012, 09:22
That is actually correct. For those that need range or safe queens it does not matter. For those of us that have these guns to possibly save our lives mil-spec or better matters.

Bushmaster is a low end company. Nothing wrong with owning one but lets not pretend they are anything other than what they are.

Wrongo Leper

Bushmaster was top of the heap back in the good ole' days and they worked fine. Colt wasn't even in the civilian market at the time.

Tango 1Zero
12-21-2012, 09:27
Wrongo Leper

Bushmaster was top of the heap back in the good ole' days and they worked fine. Colt wasn't even in the civilian market at the time.

Exactly! Friend of mine thats sniper qualified had a Bushmaster upper he took on deployments.

Big Bird
12-21-2012, 09:35
Exactly! Friend of mine thats sniper qualified had a Bushmaster upper he took on deployments.

Not only that... Bushmaster, DPMS and Remington are all the same company now--Freedom Group.

Remington was recently awarded a contract for M4 rifles from the Army and provided they can overcome the appeal filed by Colt Defense they will be supplying MILSPEC rifles to our troops...

Leper
12-21-2012, 10:07
Wrongo Leper

Bushmaster was top of the heap back in the good ole' days and they worked fine. Colt wasn't even in the civilian market at the time.
When was that? When where these good ole' days? I bought a Colt back in the 80's and it wasn't exactly a rare gun. Bushmaster guns work but they are not of the same quality. I have nothing against cheap gun and own a few myself but the gun that stays with me when I'm on duty is NOT a low end gun like Bushmaster. If pretending they are as good as a Colt makes people feel better about owning a cheap gun then that is a big deal but at the same time they shouldn't present what they think as a fact when it is not.

WinterWizard
12-21-2012, 10:13
When was that? When where these good ole' days? I bought a Colt back in the 80's and it wasn't exactly a rare gun. Bushmaster guns work but they are not of the same quality. I have nothing against cheap gun and own a few myself but the gun that stays with me when I'm on duty is NOT a low end gun like Bushmaster. If pretending they are as good as a Colt makes people feel better about owning a cheap gun then that is a big deal but at the same time they shouldn't present what they think as a fact when it is not.

Here we go. Only milspec gun is Colt. Bow down to the Colt gods.

Leper
12-21-2012, 10:33
Here we go. Only milspec gun is Colt. Bow down to the Colt gods.
Only an idiot thinks that Colt is the only milspec gun. Sarcasm vs. facts is what you rely on?:yawn:

vettely
12-21-2012, 10:55
My point is that around here there is absolutely no AR's available regardless of brand.

Zombie Steve
12-21-2012, 11:03
Yeah, but Colts are the best of what you can't have...


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:whistling:

mvician
12-21-2012, 12:09
Would be nice if everyone here could grow up and act like men.

Leper
12-21-2012, 12:19
Would be nice if everyone here could grow up and act like men.
And what would your qualifications be to be the judge of who is a man? Alot of posts on an online forum? :rofl:

mvician
12-21-2012, 13:02
And what would your qualifications be to be the judge of who is a man? Alot of posts on an online forum? :rofl:

perfect example of someone who needs to grow up.


:upeyes:

USMCgs3
12-21-2012, 13:38
Do tell when your life will depend on having a mil-spec ar?

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M&P15T
12-21-2012, 13:42
perfect example of someone who needs to grow up.


:upeyes:

Plus, you know, you do have that bad-ass tactial beard.

So, we all have to play catch-up to you in that regard.:rofl::rofl:


Oh, sorry, wasn't being "grown up".

My bad.

M&P15T
12-21-2012, 13:44
Do tell when your life will depend on having a mil-spec ar?

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This is the BRF, and combat is right around the corner, for everyone.

At any moment.

Regardless of whether you own an AR or not.

Combat.

Believe dat **** yo.

LawScholar
12-21-2012, 13:46
Never been happier for my Daniel Defense M4V1. Good time to have a quality AR I know works, before I take it on my boat trip.

chief63
12-21-2012, 13:47
That is actually correct. For those that need range or safe queens it does not matter. For those of us that have these guns to possibly save our lives mil-spec or better matters.

Bushmaster is a low end company. Nothing wrong with owning one but lets not pretend they are anything other than what they are.

Served 30 years and pounded plenty if sand and could care less about mil spec. Works for groupies though.

fuzzy03cls
12-21-2012, 14:26
Not only that... Bushmaster, DPMS and Remington are all the same company now--Freedom Group.

And earlier this week the major $ backers of freedom group sold their stake

Leper
12-21-2012, 14:54
perfect example of someone who needs to grow up.


:upeyes:
Perfect example of someone that needs to get a life. :upeyes:

Leper
12-21-2012, 14:59
Do tell when your life will depend on having a mil-spec ar?

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Everytime it comes out of the trunk of my patrol car on a call. That is when.

Served 30 years and pounded plenty if sand and could care less about mil spec. Works for groupies though.
30 years? So now I'm guessing you are retired and only in need of a range gun or safe queen. Mil-spec would mean nothing. To you. Mil-spec isn't nothing other than the minimum. Personally I prefer something better but I know mil-spec is a high enough standard compared to a lot of cheaper offerings and doesn't cost much more. Some of you forum trolls act like mil-spec is a dirty word when it's nothing more than a minimum some people expect.

LL6
12-21-2012, 15:11
Don't mind me this thread has potential.

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USMCgs3
12-21-2012, 15:53
Oh I see. Where do you patrol?

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fuzzy03cls
12-21-2012, 16:36
Some of you forum trolls
Troll? recently singed up with 22 posts? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

jakebrake
12-21-2012, 16:39
Funny how the POS bushmaster seemed to work just fine...:whistling:

you mean, the one in the trunk of the car?

Leper
12-21-2012, 17:01
Oh I see. Where do you patrol?

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It's called None of Your Damn Business. If you are in le then you already know the policy most have now about internet useage.

Leper
12-21-2012, 17:02
Troll? recently singed up with 22 posts? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I come and go. I see no point in trying to remember a password if I've been gone a few months as post count doesn't equal knowledge. This forum is the proof of that if there ever was one.

WoodenPlank
12-21-2012, 17:05
Would be nice if everyone here could grow up and act like men.

Shame this forum is continuing to devolve. The buying panic is only going to make it worse.

Sent from the USS Sulaco.

Leper
12-21-2012, 17:12
Shame this forum is continuing to devolve. The buying panic is only going to make it worse.

Sent from the USS Sulaco.
It's gotten worse over the years. To the point that I didn't even care and come and go whenever I get bored with it. I'd tell you my opinion of the reason why but unfortunatel it is Nazi enough here that I already know what would happen if I did. Suffice to say most forum I actually stay at don't let things happen that you see here.

fnfalman
12-21-2012, 18:04
What prancing pony other than Colt is out there? A current Colt is mil-spec and a better deal (non panic buy priced) than most of these cheap AR's that I see being justified here.

So your gun comes with automatic fire capability? Last thing I checked a full mil-spec Colt M4 does that.

WinterWizard
12-21-2012, 18:13
Only an idiot thinks that Colt is the only milspec gun. Sarcasm vs. facts is what you rely on?:yawn:

I rest my case. Thank you.

Leper
12-21-2012, 18:56
So your gun comes with automatic fire capability? Last thing I checked a full mil-spec Colt M4 does that.
Did I say full mil-spec or did you for the sake of arguing like the little baby you are?

Buy a cheap gun so you will have more money to add useless crap.
http://i26.tinypic.com/2efp2xd.jpg
Still room to add one or two more pieces to your rifle Mr. Operator. :rofl:

Leper
12-21-2012, 18:57
I rest my case. Thank you.
You make less sense than this...

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WinterWizard
12-21-2012, 19:05
You make less sense than this...

http://media-cache-ec2.pinterest.com/upload/266767977898181053_yd57MZlU_c.jpg

Is that your new Colt?

WoodenPlank
12-21-2012, 19:06
Is that your new Colt?

It's DD's AT-AT Mk. 2 prototype.

Made in Austria
12-21-2012, 19:15
Is that your new Colt?

It looks just like your avatar, lol

fnfalman
12-21-2012, 19:18
Did I say full mil-spec or did you for the sake of arguing like the little baby you are?

"Full" mil-spec? What's that? Is there such an animal as "half" mil-spec?:rofl:

Buy a cheap gun so you will have more money to add useless crap.

Talk about cheap guns, didn't you just buy a Colt? A real operator would have bought a Larue Tactical OBR.

Still room to add one or two more pieces to your rifle Mr. Operator. :rofl:

Was it you that posted your cheap gun with some laser and stuff on it? What's the matter? Can't shoot with iron sight?

Leper
12-21-2012, 19:21
Is that your new Colt?
If it was I'd take a picture of it beside your momma. As is this will have to suffice...
http://dgu1g3ll0xfv4.cloudfront.net/media/catalog/product/cache/22/thumbnail/600x600/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/m/i/mil-spec-monkey-your-mom-sends-patch-mulitcam.jpg
:rofl:

fnfalman
12-21-2012, 19:24
It looks like his mama is generous towards the lesser fortunate.

What a great lady.

If it was I'd take a picture of it beside your momma. As is this will have to suffice...
http://dgu1g3ll0xfv4.cloudfront.net/media/catalog/product/cache/22/thumbnail/600x600/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/m/i/mil-spec-monkey-your-mom-sends-patch-mulitcam.jpg
:rofl:

Leper
12-21-2012, 19:24
"Full" mil-spec? What's that? Is there such an animal as "half" mil-spec?:rofl:



Talk about cheap guns, didn't you just buy a Colt? A real operator would have bought a Larue Tactical OBR.



Was it you that posted your cheap gun with some laser and stuff on it? What's the matter? Can't shoot with iron sight?
Larue? Never seen one in the wild. Sorry but if that's one of your gun mag porn wants I won't be familiar with it. :whistling:

I don't own a laser.:dunno:

WinterWizard
12-21-2012, 19:35
It looks just like your avatar, lol

Do you even know what my avatar is?

LL6
12-21-2012, 19:36
"Full" mil-spec? What's that? Is there such an animal as "half" mil-spec?:rofl:
Sure there is...brought to you by the same guys who have three-quarter race cams.:odie:

fnfalman
12-21-2012, 19:37
Larue? Never seen one in the wild. Sorry but if that's one of your gun mag porn wants I won't be familiar with it. :whistling:


That's what happens when one is not well educated in the way of the guns. One does not know greatness and settles for mediocrity.

Made in Austria
12-21-2012, 19:41
Do you even know what my avatar is?

A friggin star wars robot with two machine gun titts on it, perhaps?

Leper
12-21-2012, 19:42
That's what happens when one is not well educated in the way of the guns. One does not know greatness and settles for mediocrity.
Is that why you can't tell the difference between a flashlight and a laser?

I see your own AR doesn't have either though so no hard feelings...
http://legacy-cdn.smosh.com/smosh-pit/092010/idiot-gun-6.jpg

jakebrake
12-21-2012, 19:43
Do you even know what my avatar is?

ed 209 from robocop?

LL6
12-21-2012, 19:48
ed 209 from robocop?
That would be my guess.

fnfalman
12-21-2012, 19:56
Is that why you can't tell the difference between a flashlight and a laser?

I see your own AR doesn't have either though so no hard feelings...


So, flashlight, is it? You can't afford night vision devices.:rofl: No wonder you own cheap guns and equip them with cheap gadgets.

Leper
12-21-2012, 20:02
So, flashlight, is it? You can't afford night vision devices.:rofl: No wonder you own cheap guns and equip them with cheap gadgets.
Is that the best you can come up with? Really? All that time trolling and that is the best you can do? Sorry but I don't need night vision. I'm glad you equate lasers with night vision. So your recommendation is that I add a bunch of stuff I don't need and make a well balanced gun front heavy for no good reason? What an uber cool tactical mall ninja you must be. :upeyes:

LawScholar
12-21-2012, 20:06
229825

This thread has gone full retard.

fnfalman
12-21-2012, 20:08
Is that the best you can come up with? Really? All that time trolling and that is the best you can do? Sorry but I don't need night vision. I'm glad you equate lasers with night vision. So your recommendation is that I add a bunch of stuff I don't need and make a well balanced gun front heavy for no good reason? What an uber cool tactical mall ninja you must be. :upeyes:

True operators don't operate without lasers and NVGs.

You said that the gun is your "duty" gun. Pray tell, which "duty" is that? Must not be "serious" duty or otherwise it would have been a serious gun made by serious gun makers and equipped with serious accessories.

USMCsilver
12-21-2012, 20:10
229825

This thread has gone full retard.

Ditto.

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Leper
12-21-2012, 20:21
True operators don't operate without lasers and NVGs.

You said that the gun is your "duty" gun. Pray tell, which "duty" is that? Must not be "serious" duty or otherwise it would have been a serious gun made by serious gun makers and equipped with serious accessories.
Police work. I have no need to be a "true operator". Please keep on with your words of wisdom though. I honestly feel you are getting dumber with each new post. :rofl:

Rooster Rugburn
12-21-2012, 20:23
Do tell when your life will depend on having a mil-spec ar?


Whenever you are in N. Dallas.

Gunny Lingus
12-21-2012, 20:42
I don't mean to jump into the many pissing contests currently running, but is it me, or does the person posting as 'Leper' remind anyone else of the phrase "your mama's basement"?

Pretending to be a LEO? I don't believe it. No offense, but this just reads like some teenager posting from his mama's basement.

Leper
12-21-2012, 20:53
I don't mean to jump into the many pissing contests currently running, but is it me, or does the person posting as 'Leper' remind anyone else of the phrase "your mama's basement"?

Pretending to be a LEO? I don't believe it. No offense, but this just reads like some teenager posting from his mama's basement.
I tell you what, I can prove I'm an leo and I'm willing to put money on it. After I'll have to start a new account later on and I'll do it with a mod you pick that you trust verifying my credentials and identity but not revealing it to you. Who is willing to be some money? Or are you all the chicken's that we all know you are including you Gunny Lingus? I mean even if it's only a hundred bucks what is the big deal? All of you with your uber cool expensive hardware can afford it right?

Mods I have my settings where I can be contacted by email. I can provide my telephone number, photocopy of my driver's license, and contact information for the department admin I work for so you can verify I am a currently employed law enforcement officer.

So Gunny, will you provide some betting money and agree that the mod running this will publicly let people know if you welch on the bet? It's Christmas time so I could use a little extra money. :wavey:

edit: Just sent Gunny Lingus a PM so he won't miss this. Nothing ever changes here though. This isn't the first time I've seen the forum idiots call troll when all else failed them.

Gunny Lingus
12-21-2012, 20:58
My goodness, if anything ever proved he is posting from his mothers basement, that is it.

Leper, I don't even open PM's from someone like yourself. Go away please. Isn't it passed your bedtime? Or does your mommy let you stay up late on weekends?

Leper
12-21-2012, 21:07
My goodness, if anything ever proved he is posting from his mothers basement, that is it.

Leper, I don't even open PM's from someone like yourself. Go away please. Isn't it passed your bedtime? Or does your mommy let you stay up late on weekends?
You really are a coward aren't you? It's a shame. What am I supposed to say at this point? You are so sure you'd turn down an easy $100 or more? I'll deposit the funds in a paypal account and give a moderator or admin access to the same privately so they can confirm the funds are available. Or I'll simply deposit it in theirs. Actually we both can and then they simply give the funds to whoever wins the bet. Does that sound better? I'm game chicken boy. :tongueout:

Rooster Rugburn
12-21-2012, 21:10
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Leper
12-21-2012, 21:17
Rooster I can cover another hundred from you. :)

GLJones
12-21-2012, 21:19
I really need a LIKE button here.

WinterWizard
12-21-2012, 22:12
ed 209 from robocop?

It appears some people know and others make stupid assumptions. :wavey:

vettely
12-22-2012, 00:35
Damn. Go a way for awhile and what the hell?

LL6
12-22-2012, 05:51
Don't mind me this thread has potential.

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Damn it all, I thougt one machine was enough.
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chief63
12-22-2012, 06:57
Everytime it comes out of the trunk of my patrol car on a call. That is when.


30 years? So now I'm guessing you are retired and only in need of a range gun or safe queen. Mil-spec would mean nothing. To you. Mil-spec isn't nothing other than the minimum. Personally I prefer something better but I know mil-spec is a high enough standard compared to a lot of cheaper offerings and doesn't cost much more. Some of you forum trolls act like mil-spec is a dirty word when it's nothing more than a minimum some people expect.

Yes retired 2 years ago. Mil spec appeals to many but its as much as a limiting factor as a plus. Good advertising though.

TangoFoxtrot
12-22-2012, 07:31
I guess buying something without the prancing ponies does not really matter right about now. No?

It doesn't matter buy whatever comes your way and you can obtain.

Bren
12-22-2012, 08:19
Even if you were to buy a Prancing Pony, it still doesn't mean that you're getting "mil-spec".

Seems like Colts, from a least a certain period, are most often the ones mentioned in the fine print, with "this part fits all mil spec - but not Colt...."

I haven't kept up on AR developments for some time, but I seem to recall special pins and parts made to adapt mil=spec to work with Colts.

Leigh
12-22-2012, 08:31
Mil-Spec is right up there with "tactical" in terms of real-worl usefulness.

My good friend carried a "tactical knife" in Viet Nam (2 tours); a Buck 110 Folding Hunter duct-taped to his combat suspenders!

In the 1980's my USMC-issue combat boots were "Mil-Spec" and the worst quality I've ever seen. I'd go through no less than 3-4 pair annually.

That is why almost EVERYTHING in military service (small arms excluded, of course) had/has an alternative that may be approved by commanders on a batallion (or even lower) level.

It's a good feeling to know a grunt can chuck his cheap-o issue gear for better quality equipment (out of his own pocket, usually) that is still considered "approved & authorized."

Mil-Spec may be of the highest quality or it may be the lowest bidder. Always has been and always will be.

svtpwnz
12-22-2012, 08:49
Fact is, if you do not have an AR, a lower teir AR is better than nothing. Most people buying these weapons recently are just hobby shooters and will probably never put more than 1000 rounds through it, so mil-spec means squat to them.

fnfalman
12-22-2012, 09:11
Police work. I have no need to be a "true operator". Please keep on with your words of wisdom though. I honestly feel you are getting dumber with each new post. :rofl:

If it's police work that you do, then why do you want or need "mil-spec"? Isn't "mil-spec" an abbreviation of "military specification"? If that's the case then wouldn't you be better off with something that is "po-spec"?

Rooster Rugburn
12-22-2012, 09:55
Damn. Go a way for awhile and what the hell?

GTBRF has a new black rifle guru, which should make it more fun to watch. G-d help US if he really is a LEO. My money is on paint-baller.


If that's the case then wouldn't you be better off with something that is "po-spec"?

:rofl: Classic falman.

Most LEO are military wannabees anyway, and to be a proper military buff, you must have milspec.

BobRicks
12-22-2012, 11:27
What happened to the "report this post to an administrator" button? There are a few posts in here I would like to report!!! :wow:

mvician
12-22-2012, 11:43
What happened to the "report this post to an administrator" button? There are a few posts in here I would like to report!!! :wow:

It is the button with the exclamation point in the triangle


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Tango 1Zero
12-22-2012, 12:48
Dont leave out aircraft grade aluminum.

vettely
12-22-2012, 12:49
What happened to the "report this post to an administrator" button? There are a few posts in here I would like to report!!! :wow:

C'mon now, why would you want to drop the curtain?

svtpwnz
12-22-2012, 13:05
I tell you what, I can prove I'm an leo and I'm willing to put money on it. After I'll have to start a new account later on and I'll do it with a mod you pick that you trust verifying my credentials and identity but not revealing it to you. Who is willing to be some money? Or are you all the chicken's that we all know you are including you Gunny Lingus? I mean even if it's only a hundred bucks what is the big deal? All of you with your uber cool expensive hardware can afford it right?

Mods I have my settings where I can be contacted by email. I can provide my telephone number, photocopy of my driver's license, and contact information for the department admin I work for so you can verify I am a currently employed law enforcement officer.

So Gunny, will you provide some betting money and agree that the mod running this will publicly let people know if you welch on the bet? It's Christmas time so I could use a little extra money. :wavey:

edit: Just sent Gunny Lingus a PM so he won't miss this. Nothing ever changes here though. This isn't the first time I've seen the forum idiots call troll when all else failed them.


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BobRicks
12-22-2012, 19:24
It is the button with the exclamation point in the triangle


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THANKS! I was looking on the right side not the left one.

pag23
12-22-2012, 20:46
well I got my daily dose of laughing in for the day.

mjkeat
12-22-2012, 21:21
Leper, if you are an LEO cut your losses and disapear. You're making yourself look bad. When you find yourself on the same level as posters like fnfal and rooster you're doing something wrong.

LL6
12-23-2012, 05:32
Leper, if you are an LEO cut your losses and disapear. You're making yourself look bad. When you find yourself on the same level as posters like fnfal and rooster you're doing something wrong.
Really?
http://firedaily.com/files/2012/01/lighten-up-francis.jpg

Leper
12-23-2012, 08:24
It doesn't matter buy whatever comes your way and you can obtain.

Fact is, if you do not have an AR, a lower teir AR is better than nothing. Most people buying these weapons recently are just hobby shooters and will probably never put more than 1000 rounds through it, so mil-spec means squat to them.

The very definition of panic buying. Kind of pitiful really.

If it's police work that you do, then why do you want or need "mil-spec"? Isn't "mil-spec" an abbreviation of "military specification"? If that's the case then wouldn't you be better off with something that is "po-spec"?

The very definition of stupid has arrived.

GTBRF has a new black rifle guru, which should make it more fun to watch. G-d help US if he really is a LEO. My money is on paint-baller.




:rofl: Classic falman.

Most LEO are military wannabees anyway, and to be a proper military buff, you must have milspec.

Spoken like a true coward. $200?

Leper, if you are an LEO cut your losses and disapear. You're making yourself look bad. When you find yourself on the same level as posters like fnfal and rooster you're doing something wrong.

Just seeing how many stupid things I can get them both to post in one thread. Maybe get a little free money from those idiots also.

mjkeat
12-23-2012, 12:03
Well whatever you're goal is you look like a steaming pile of #2. I hope the rest of your shift approaches life in a slightly different manner.

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Leper
12-23-2012, 12:25
Well whatever you're goal is you look like a steaming pile of #2. I hope the rest of your shift approaches life in a slightly different manner.

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Says another forum troll. :upeyes:

conpro
12-23-2012, 13:37
All your buying is the name.

mjkeat
12-23-2012, 13:46
Says another forum troll. :upeyes:

Are you saying you're a troll?

LL6
12-23-2012, 13:48
Just seeing how many stupid things I can get them both to post in one thread. Maybe get a little free money from those idiots also.

Well whatever you're goal is you look like a steaming pile of #2. I hope the rest of your shift approaches life in a slightly different manner.

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Says another forum troll.
:rofl:


Dear Mr Leper,
If I may quote the famous Mr Spicoli.
"People on 'ludes should not drive!"

Sincerely,
LL6

mvician
12-23-2012, 13:52
All your buying is the name.

Hello RoadKing :wavey:

mjkeat
12-23-2012, 13:58
Hello RoadKing :wavey:

Yeah, he's back at it in other threads as well.

Spiffums
12-23-2012, 16:36
Hello RoadKing :wavey:

That's what I was thinking as I read this whole thing!

fnfalman
12-24-2012, 15:13
The very definition of stupid has arrived.

Speaking of stupid, I'm not that one that runs around wanting "mil-spec" even though my work isn't even anywhere close to "mil-spec".

Sounds like you're a wannabe to me.

bmoore
12-24-2012, 15:42
Hello RoadKing :wavey:

Thanks Mvician, I could not remember his original name.

NEOH212
12-24-2012, 16:37
I guess buying something without the prancing ponies does not really matter right about now. No?

Although Milspec isn't bad, it's not everything it's touted to be. There are plenty of non Milspec AR's out there that run just fine and never have problems.

There are also many AR's out there that are built to exceed the Milspec that in my opinion, are built even better.

Milspec is just that. It's a spec. It's a good base point for some things but I've found that most of them don't matter as all my AR's weather they are Milspec or not all run just fine.

My opinion on the whole Milspec thing: :yawn:

(Don't worry, I used to think it was the do all, end all too. It's ok though. Some day those people that still think Milspec is everything will learn otherwise too.) :wavey:

NEOH212
12-24-2012, 16:39
And no, it doesn't have to have a Pony on it or cost over $3,000 to be a good AR. (Contrary to what the typical fan boys will have you think.)

:supergrin:

NEOH212
12-24-2012, 16:48
Now don't get me wrong. There are still some companies that do it better than others. Take Colt for instance. What I think sets them apart from the others is they pay great attention to detail and do use good quality parts. You know what your getting when you get a Colt.

(As of late, Windham Weaponry seems to be running neck and neck with Colt. I know that's gonna piss off some fan boys!) :rofl:

Some other brands may need some minor things done to them to be on the safe side but those are little things that aren't any big deal. They haven't been a big deal for me yet!

Most of the problems I've personally seen with AR's that didn't run right out of the box was due to improper assembly.

Again, minor things. Sure, the gun should be put together properly from the factory but as long as the parts are of good quality, I can fix those small things and have a good rifle for less money.

With all that said, I've had more issues with one brand over all the others but all have had minor problems and minor parts breakages over the years. Still, they were all things that can come to be expected from any gun that's shot a lot.

No brand is immune to parts failures or malfunctions with use. If you never have those issues, your not shooting your rifle enough. They all do it and if yours hasn't, it will sooner or later.

Brand isn't the issue that many people make it out to be. Yes, some are better than others but not by much as you might think. (Despite what many of the die hard brand X fan boys will have you believe.)

mvician
12-24-2012, 17:24
(As of late, Windham Weaponry seems to be running neck and neck with Colt. I know that's gonna piss off some fan boys!) :rofl:




Piss off? Nope

Windham isn't much better than what they built before.

fnfalman
12-24-2012, 22:09
All I know is that the lowest bidder builds to "mil-spec".

mjkeat
12-25-2012, 09:21
My favorite is how some throw around the phrase "fan boy." I've found it's the guys/gals who don't shoot all that much.

I also don't understand how people can still be spewing the "they think you have to spend $3000 to get a good AR." I have never seen that here. In fact I see just the opposite of that time after time.

The same goes w/ the milspec talk. I have never seen anyone recommend milspec or nothing or milspec as the end all.

Misconceptions and made up stuff.

Rooster Rugburn
12-25-2012, 18:49
I've found it's the guys/gals who don't shoot all that much.

How did you find that out? I believe you are blowing smoke.

3RASER
12-25-2012, 19:24
It saddens me to know some of our Law Enforcement officers are this childish and immature.

mjkeat
12-25-2012, 20:18
How did you find that out? I believe you are blowing smoke.

When you shoot a fair amount it gets easier to tell who does and who doesn't

It saddens me to know some of our Law Enforcement officers are this childish and immature.

Most are very respectable and quite well behaved. There are exceptions like w/ all things. I however don't believe this guy is any of the above.

bigmoney890
12-25-2012, 21:01
First off, this thread has been quite entertaining to read. And of course, a few of the regular fire starters have made an appearance.

My favorite is how some throw around the phrase "fan boy." I've found it's the guys/gals who don't shoot all that much.

I also don't understand how people can still be spewing the "they think you have to spend $3000 to get a good AR." I have never seen that here. In fact I see just the opposite of that time after time.

The same goes w/ the milspec talk. I have never seen anyone recommend milspec or nothing or milspec as the end all.

Misconceptions and made up stuff.

Exactly right. I rarely see anyone mention COLT (except the people making fun of the "fanboys") as an option for a newbie to AR's. In fact, when I first came to this forum, people suggested the M&P Sport to me. I don't understand where people are getting these preconceived notions a bout the BRF, but their wrong.

It saddens me to know some of our Law Enforcement officers are this childish and immature.

Well, you only have to be 21 to be a police officer...:whistling:

Sammael
12-26-2012, 13:01
It saddens me to know some of our Law Enforcement officers are this childish and immature.
Most are very respectable and quite well behaved. There are exceptions like w/ all things. I however don't believe this guy is any of the above.
+1... Thousand. To both.

series1811
12-26-2012, 13:09
Troll? recently singed up with 22 posts? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Tantrix? Oh, no. :supergrin:

mack0311
12-27-2012, 13:51
I was in Iraq with a Knight's Armament made M16A4. Seemed mil-spec enough for me.

mvician
12-27-2012, 14:07
I was in Iraq with a Knight's Armament made M16A4. Seemed mil-spec enough for me.

you sure it wasn't just a Knight's Armament rail on a Colt or FN M16 ?

mjkeat
12-27-2012, 14:42
you sure it wasn't just a Knight's Armament rail on a Colt or FN M16 ?

Mike is correct. The only thing KAC about the M16A4 is the gangsta grip and rail.

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mack0311
12-27-2012, 15:02
Mike is correct. The only thing KAC about the M16A4 is the gangsta grip and rail.

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deleted retarded inaccurate comment.

mvician
12-27-2012, 17:04
Cool....any more info on it?

mjkeat
12-27-2012, 21:03
I'm interested in this. I wonder if it was pieced together somehow. They don't show a 20" on their site.

So what MOS are/were you?

mack0311
12-27-2012, 23:06
0311. deployed on OIF 5-7.2 comin up on about six years ago. I'm gonna go ahead and bow out of this one, looked at some old pics and it's blurry, but it looks more like an FN logo than a KAC logo on one of the rifle's. The years have not been kind to me it seems. :drowning: ....fail.

mjkeat
12-29-2012, 01:50
I wasn't trying to bust your hump. I was just curious and like to learn all I can.

I went through the same thing when someone question the fact that we ( my Inf. unit carried semi only M4s). There wasn't a picture to be found clear enough to prove my point. 99% of the pics are f'd up from the flash catching all the dust and dirt in the air.