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allegro
12-25-2012, 11:50
As a frequent-follower of the Forum, I notice that there is a lot of chatter about most other (main) brands of OWB holsters and very little about the Fobus products. I am wondering why?

I picked up a Fobus paddle for my G23 after the recommendation of an FBI Agent friend of mine. He liked it, so, what the heck, I figured I would too. He was right and I do !

Are there issues that cause others to NOT like the Fobus? Again, I am very pleased with mine and have been comfortably carrying it now for about a dozen years.

I hope I hear from the experienced masses here.

Happy New Year everyone, be careful and enjoy your families.

ThinkMud
12-25-2012, 12:32
I love my Fobus holsters. Some I've had to heat up and remold the trigger guard area because they where either too tight or too loose. But they are quick and easy and simple.

UtahIrishman
12-25-2012, 12:40
My first holster was a Fobus OWB. It was OK but since I needed an IWB for CCW I've gone to an MTAC.

For the price they're decent but there are better holsters out there if you're willing to pay more money.

Berto
12-25-2012, 12:47
I used a Fobus for the BHP and it worked well, but they aren't robust and can be pulled loose at the rivets if you actually use your stuff hard.
Never an issue for me, I don't engage in Starsky and Hutch type stuff when carrying.

firefighter4215
12-25-2012, 13:56
For basic concealed carry my Fobus holsters are awesome. I wouldn't rely on them for duty use, though I do know of one cop who uses one on his duty belt.

kirgi08
12-25-2012, 14:30
I like them,I had ta trim the paddles on both rh/lh models.'08.

TK-421
12-25-2012, 14:37
I like mine, it seems okay. I haven't used it much, and only intend it to be a range holster, so that I don't have to set it down. I don't actually plan on carrying it anywhere or using it anywhere except at the range, so I don't expect to see any heavy use or wear and tear on it. For $20, it's not a bad little holster. Just don't expect it to be the most awesome holster ever, and expect it to be a $20 chunk of plastic, and you won't be unhappy with it.

RyanNREMTP
12-25-2012, 15:46
Guess I'm the opposite. I hated the fobus stuff I had. Pistol was hard to pull from holster. Mag carrier had no retention and hurt like hell while wearing it. Cuffs I have wouldn't fit in cuff case. Ended up getting a blackhawk sherpa and was much much happier. I use an extra Gerber multitool pouch for the magazine. Cuff case was replaced by something else now. So now I refuse to buy anything fobus.

Sent from my Federation issued communicator.

SPIN2010
12-25-2012, 16:17
I just got rid of a FOBUS magazine holder and it was just fine with 10mm Glock mags, I would buy another.

NMPOPS
12-25-2012, 19:33
I have two Fobus paddle holsters for Glocks that I've had for years. Good solid holsters for the money. Not too fond of paddle holsters in general so I have converted one to a belt holster. Works great.

NEOH212
12-25-2012, 20:34
There is much better than Fobus. I've had them and they didn't hold up to hard use.

If it's all you have the money for, go for it. If you can afford better, you'll be better off spending the extra money for something better.

collim1
12-25-2012, 21:09
I have had two. One would allow the gun to fall out if you turned it upside down. The other had such tight retention the entire holster would come out of your belt before the gun would draw.

There are better holsters out there for the same money. I don't like Serpas one bit, bit I'd take one over a focus in a pinch.

TheExplorer
12-25-2012, 21:12
I have had two. One would allow the gun to fall out if you turned it upside down. The other had such tight retention the entire holster would come out of your belt before the gun would draw.


That's the expeience I had as well. Both of mine are sitting back in their original packaging. I just don't trust them with my life.

tshadow6
12-25-2012, 21:38
I have been carrying my G-19 in a Fobus paddle holster for at least 10 years. Define hard use; daily carry? range carry? motorcycle carry? I've used my Fobus during all of those activities and the holster is still in top condition. People need to understand, holsters are designed to hold the weapon; nothing more.

cowboy1964
12-25-2012, 23:52
A Fobus paddle was my first holster. It put severe scratches on my Glock 26 slide with only a few uses. Perhaps there was grit in there or whatever. I won't touch Fobus again.

NEOH212
12-26-2012, 01:52
Define hard use.

Constant draw and re-holster on the order of several thousand times in a year. Rolling around on the ground while transitioning to and from various shooting positions, getting it snagged on things, rough handling in various training exercises, ect.

Stuff like that.

It would appear that the Fobus line of holsters isn't designed to stand up to that kind of use because I haven't had one yet that did. I've had three total. Never have I had one completely fail but I've had the rivets loosen up on all three of them to the point where the holster would no longer retain the gun securely.

I like the holsters simplicity but I would like to see them make it more robust. Then it wouldn't be too bad.

I still like it better over the Serpa any day though.

NEOH212
12-26-2012, 01:57
Premium Kydex or Premium leather is the only way to go.

I never did understand the mentality of someone that will go spend $500+ on a handgun but complain about spending more than $20 on a holster.

:faint:

Do yourselves a favor and purchase a real holster for your gun and call it a day.

:wavey:

kirgi08
12-26-2012, 07:51
There are a few ways ta increase the life of a fobus holster,felt/heat ect.'08.

redbaron007
12-26-2012, 08:08
Have two of them...now problems...depending what your needs are, they're good. If you want it for a duty holster...I'd spend a little extra and get a better holster.

:wavey:

red

Lior
12-26-2012, 08:21
My main beef with Fobus plastic gear is that it is too easy to bootleg and flog to gun owners as the genuine article.

As the Fobus factory is but five miles from my home, I get the genuine article and all of my Fobus plastic holsters and holders have been excellent - secure, light, affordable, comfortable, quick drawing. Obviously not for deep concealment but in the winter it is no issue.

high ground
12-26-2012, 08:27
For years it was pretty standard for me to buy a fobus when i got a new gun. Worked great for beginning idpa. But the last one i bought wouldn't let go of the gun. So i got blade tech economy line. Not much more expensive. But i still use fobus mag carriers.

cowboywannabe
12-26-2012, 09:29
you wouldnt use an open top leather biancchi rig for open carry and then complain about the retention during a gun grab would you?
Fobus was designed or at least seems to be designed for range use, ccw, and thats about it. they are not open carry retention rigs not will they sustain hard use.

fobus is far from optimal but, use a holster as it was designed for and you will be less disappointed.

FireForged
12-26-2012, 11:05
Fobus is simply a budget holster which from all appearances, seems to have been made cheaply. I have one and it works fine, the question is: how many are you willing to buy before you decide that its more cost effective to purchase a better holster?

cowboywannabe
12-26-2012, 11:14
BTW im tired and my snippy post wasnt pointed at anybody in particular. a $30.00 holster is worth $30.00, that is all.

Lior
12-26-2012, 11:36
If we're talking cost effectiveness in holsters, by far and away the winner in my book is Remora, followed by SmartCarry (generic holsters), followed by Fobus by a slight margin.

My best holster ever, the Safariland 6070, has been the least cost effective.

Glock23shooter
12-26-2012, 11:55
MY experience with them i kinda liked, they looked cool and seem to work ok but after seeing a few reviews about them and all i kinda grew on to blackhawk serpa's more then the fobus. This video also made me rethink my decision on carrying a fobus.

Why you don't use a kydex paddle holster - YouTube

Lior
12-26-2012, 11:56
Nobody has proved that this video is in fact of a holster made by Fobus.

http://firstsamco.com/Fobus/counterfeit/

redbaron007
12-26-2012, 13:05
Nobody has proved that this video is in fact of a holster made by Fobus.

http://firstsamco.com/Fobus/counterfeit/

I concur. In fact, that video was uploaded, or so the site says so, in 2007. So....who knows how wold it is.

It doesn't look like any of my Fobus holsters.

:wavey:

red

Adjuster
12-26-2012, 22:46
Fobus also changed the design of their holsters and added more support to the rivet areas. This was a few years back and was due to the controversy caused by the gun grab video above.



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unit1069
12-26-2012, 23:13
I have a Fobus Adjustable Cant OWB holster that works great for it's design. I'm planning on using it in February when I will traverse a section of the Ozark Trail with a few other people in company. I really like the way it "clicks" my Glock into place and keeps it there, as well as the ability to change the cant angle.

ChrisFB
12-27-2012, 02:17
I like mine. I use it for OWB CCW at times never for open carry or hard range use (ie training beyond some target work). No complaints. I did get some adhesive padding to place over the rivets which improved comfort a bit. Nice to slip on/off.

cadillacguns
12-27-2012, 05:42
Grab mine, stick my "Glock" in it and go, simple and effective range/daily use carry. :wavey:

drino
12-27-2012, 15:38
I've tried several holsters - premium leather belt, IWB, etc - but they were always uncomfortable for me - pulling down on my belt, pinching my skin - and I hate wearing a belt. I bought the Fobus paddle holster for my 26 and it's 100% comfortable whatever I'm doing. I'm usually carrying when I ride horses or motorcycles - so I'm talking pretty lively activities. I never have to worry about the gun getting dislodged from the hoster. My one beef is that it can be a little too secure - takes a darn good tug to unholster at times. I'll be getting one for my 23.

GunHo198
12-27-2012, 16:17
I liked mine, but it wore the finish off my G30 slide in less than 6 months. Got a new leather paddle (Holster) for Christmas and I'm having my Slide Cerekoted. Going to get another leather paddle (Holster) for my G27 before the finish gets worn off of it.

:whistling:

im413
12-27-2012, 16:20
The Gen 4 mag release is always being hit when I use the holster. They work great for the Gen 3.

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PaulMason
12-27-2012, 16:21
Those who have the G26 - are you getting the IWB with the sweat shield?

PaulMason
12-27-2012, 16:22
I liked mine, but it wore the finish off my G30 slide in less than 6 months. Got a new leather paddle (Holster) for Christmas and I'm having my Slide Cerekoted. Going to get another leather paddle (Holster) for my G27 before the finish gets worn off of it.

:whistling:

Might this not do that?

http://remoraholsters.com/Remora-Hyde_Lining.html

PaulMason
12-27-2012, 16:25
http://mousegunaddict.blogspot.com/search/label/gear%20reviews

Sheepdog689
12-27-2012, 17:03
A few months ago I bought a new G-38 and wanted to get a Fobus paddle holster for it. I off duty carry my G-19 in a Fobus paddle, actually in a model for the G-26, which I liked. (Note past tense....keep reading)

Fobus does not make a paddle holster for the 38, only for the 37. The 38 fits in it but the holster extends past the end of the muzzle by an inch...I wasn't happy with that.

So, my search began. Thanks to the search button here on GT I learned about Serpa, Comp-Tac and a couple other brands. I took a chance and ordered a Comp-Tac paddle holster as they make them model specific. When it arrived all I can say is WOW, I'm impressed.

The Comp-Tac is made of much thicker Kydex than the Fobus....if the Fobus is even Kydex, it may just be some generic plastic. The Comp-Tac is made of a single piece of Kydex that's folded and molded into shape. Simpler design with less things to break or malfunction. The Fobus is multiple pieces riveted together and I'm sure everyone has seen the YouTube video of the guy having a pistol in a Fobus holster ripped off his belt. Not saying it won't happen with the Comp-Tac, but I think it would be more difficult. The Comp-Tac rides higher on the belt than the Fobus which to me equates to better concealment and less chance of hitting the muzzle on a chair when you sit down. (I couldn't figure out how to take photos of myself wearing the holster so you'll have to settle for still life shots below.)

When inserting the pistol into the Comp-Tac it seats with a definite "click" so you know it's in place. The Fobus just slides in and stays there. The Comp-Tac can be adjusted for fit with the allen wrench that comes with the holster.

Overall the Comp-Tac is much more comfortable to wear. I like how it rides higher on the belt, how it's made of thicker material and how it's not riveted together. The only thing that I can find in favor of the Fobus holster at this point is price, it's about 1/2 the cost of the Comp-Tac, but this is really a case of getting what you pay for. The Comp-Tac is a quality holster and they will be getting future business from me when I am in need of another holster.

Fobus holster on the left Comp-Tac on the right:
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h156/TeikasDad/IMG_5007.jpg

Rear view of the paddles. The Fobus has a red rubber insert and has a much longer paddle than the Comp-Tac. The Comp-Tac has a much wider paddle.
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h156/TeikasDad/IMG_5010.jpg

Rear view (Fobus on the left) showing how the holster on the Fobus is riveted to the paddle while the Comp-Tac is a solid piece of Kydex that's folded over. Nothing to break off on the Comp-Tac. The other big thing that I found is that the rounded top of the Comp-Tac is much more comfortable riding against my side. The top of the Fobus is higher and sharper and digs into my side when I sit with the holster on.
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h156/TeikasDad/IMG_5009.jpg

Top view - Fobus on the left
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h156/TeikasDad/IMG_5008.jpg

Front view - Fobus on the left
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h156/TeikasDad/IMG_5017.jpg

The Fobus (on left) is held in place by two small wedges on the paddle, one in front and one behind the holster. To keep the paddle from sliding front to rear there's the red rubber piece on the back of the paddle (in photo above) to give the paddle some friction. The Comp-Tac has two "ears" that bend forward on the paddle to keep the holster on the belt and two velcro (the hard half of the velcro) dots that provide friction to keep the paddle from moving fore or aft on the belt.
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h156/TeikasDad/IMG_5016.jpg

Bill Lumberg
12-28-2012, 09:34
FOBUS has firmly established itself as a specialist in two areas: 1) Making the absolute lowest quality mass produced holsters on the market, and 2) Making holsters for some obscure models of guns that no other commonly available manufacturer may provide holsters for. If I had no other holster available, I'd use FOBUS without hesitation. It's still better than no holster or the joke excuses for holsters out there (MIC, cripdraw, etc.). But many other holsters are available for glock and 1911, from inexpensive to pricey, so I don't use FOBUS at all.

While they have made some strides in modernization and uniformity in recent years, they are rarely a top three choice, unless you happen to own a gun and FOBUS is the only provider for that weapon. As a frequent-follower of the Forum, I notice that there is a lot of chatter about most other (main) brands of OWB holsters and very little about the Fobus products. I am wondering why?

I picked up a Fobus paddle for my G23 after the recommendation of an FBI Agent friend of mine. He liked it, so, what the heck, I figured I would too. He was right and I do !

Are there issues that cause others to NOT like the Fobus? Again, I am very pleased with mine and have been comfortably carrying it now for about a dozen years.

I hope I hear from the experienced masses here.

Happy New Year everyone, be careful and enjoy your families.

rangerabn
12-28-2012, 11:48
I have used my Fobus Evolution series holster for my G32 a few years now, and it has worked great. Very good retention, but draws easily if you use a little silicone spray about every six months. I notice a lot of people post pictures showing the older models. The newer Evolution series has an tension screw that allows you to adjust the tightness to your own desires. Very slim and concealable. There may be others out there as good, but no one can beat Fobus price. Its not made of kydex, some other type of plastic that appears to be slick and indestructible. The rivets are as tight as the day I bought them.

Ryobi
12-28-2012, 15:08
Almost anything else is better, but they're cheap and aren't quite as bad as they used to be.

allegro
12-28-2012, 21:18
Thanks for the opinions. Seems pretty mixed, based on severity of use.

Again, I am happy with mine after a dozen years. Still doing what it does.

Be careful everyone

GunHo198
12-29-2012, 00:07
Mines held up pretty good. It's just the wear and tear on the finish of my Glock slide that turned me to leather. I'm not complaining nor will I toss it out.


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SCmasterblaster
12-29-2012, 10:04
I need an education - what is a FOBUS; what does the acronym stand for?

jakebrake
12-29-2012, 10:31
i tried one and just didn't like it. i was old school leather before, and back to it now. just wasn't a good feel for me.

Bill Lumberg
12-29-2012, 15:08
I'm not aware that it's an acronym. It's a brand that has been around forever. In many cases, it was the only model-specific holster available besides handmade leather 20 or 30 years ago. Sometimes, for obscure models of gun, may be the only holster for some today. Very low price. Very low quality. Advertised heavily that it was the choice of the Israeli military (inferring that it must be good then). Damage to guns from rivets scratching, poor quality control and tolerance issues between different pieces of the same model. Despite all that, because of the very low price, and the fact that they are, in fact, better than waistband/pocket/cripdraw/trigger shoes or anything else short of a holster, they have a place. If a novice was looking at pocket carry, or one of the humorous non-holsters due to price, I'd steer them to FOBUS right behind the glock sport. To be fair, FOBUS, in recent years, has improved production quality someone, and come out with new models. Not up to par with mainstream or high end holsters, but viable. I need an education - what is a FOBUS; what does the acronym stand for?

SCmasterblaster
12-29-2012, 19:19
Thanks for your reply.

SouthernBoyVA
12-29-2012, 21:37
The Fobus holsters I like and have and use are their Evolution series for belts. The Evolution is quite a bit better than the standard Fobus holster.

vista461
12-29-2012, 22:46
Nobody has proved that this video is in fact of a holster made by Fobus.

http://firstsamco.com/Fobus/counterfeit/
Counterfeiting a Fobus? Isn't that like Counterfeiting a Hipoint?:rofl:
I have a Fobus, just feels cheap and not like it will hold up well, beside not being all that concealable. Haven't left the house with it yet.

SCmasterblaster
12-30-2012, 15:27
Has sure stirred up some controversy. Has anyone IDed that holster yet?

Bill Lumberg
12-31-2012, 07:15
If the chinese would counterfeit a fobus, that's proof that they'd counterfeit anything. Why oh why would you make a knockoff of one of the least sought after holsters available? What's next, knockoffs of uncle mike's holsters? We may already be too late.....

Dogbite
12-31-2012, 19:46
I have had a couple Fobus holsters--owb. They are great. They conceal well owb under a loose shirt. They are tough, and my draw is smooth and fast out of one. I have been carrying this one now for about 3 years, and have never had one problem out of it.

SCmasterblaster
01-01-2013, 11:53
A few months ago I bought a new G-38 and wanted to get a Fobus paddle holster for it. I off duty carry my G-19 in a Fobus paddle, actually in a model for the G-26, which I liked. (Note past tense....keep reading)

Fobus does not make a paddle holster for the 38, only for the 37. The 38 fits in it but the holster extends past the end of the muzzle by an inch...I wasn't happy with that.

So, my search began. Thanks to the search button here on GT I learned about Serpa, Comp-Tac and a couple other brands. I took a chance and ordered a Comp-Tac paddle holster as they make them model specific. When it arrived all I can say is WOW, I'm impressed.

The Comp-Tac is made of much thicker Kydex than the Fobus....if the Fobus is even Kydex, it may just be some generic plastic. The Comp-Tac is made of a single piece of Kydex that's folded and molded into shape. Simpler design with less things to break or malfunction. The Fobus is multiple pieces riveted together and I'm sure everyone has seen the YouTube video of the guy having a pistol in a Fobus holster ripped off his belt. Not saying it won't happen with the Comp-Tac, but I think it would be more difficult. The Comp-Tac rides higher on the belt than the Fobus which to me equates to better concealment and less chance of hitting the muzzle on a chair when you sit down. (I couldn't figure out how to take photos of myself wearing the holster so you'll have to settle for still life shots below.)

When inserting the pistol into the Comp-Tac it seats with a definite "click" so you know it's in place. The Fobus just slides in and stays there. The Comp-Tac can be adjusted for fit with the allen wrench that comes with the holster.

Overall the Comp-Tac is much more comfortable to wear. I like how it rides higher on the belt, how it's made of thicker material and how it's not riveted together. The only thing that I can find in favor of the Fobus holster at this point is price, it's about 1/2 the cost of the Comp-Tac, but this is really a case of getting what you pay for. The Comp-Tac is a quality holster and they will be getting future business from me when I am in need of another holster.

Fobus holster on the left Comp-Tac on the right:
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h156/TeikasDad/IMG_5007.jpg

Rear view of the paddles. The Fobus has a red rubber insert and has a much longer paddle than the Comp-Tac. The Comp-Tac has a much wider paddle.
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h156/TeikasDad/IMG_5010.jpg

Rear view (Fobus on the left) showing how the holster on the Fobus is riveted to the paddle while the Comp-Tac is a solid piece of Kydex that's folded over. Nothing to break off on the Comp-Tac. The other big thing that I found is that the rounded top of the Comp-Tac is much more comfortable riding against my side. The top of the Fobus is higher and sharper and digs into my side when I sit with the holster on.
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h156/TeikasDad/IMG_5009.jpg

Top view - Fobus on the left
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h156/TeikasDad/IMG_5008.jpg

Front view - Fobus on the left
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h156/TeikasDad/IMG_5017.jpg

The Fobus (on left) is held in place by two small wedges on the paddle, one in front and one behind the holster. To keep the paddle from sliding front to rear there's the red rubber piece on the back of the paddle (in photo above) to give the paddle some friction. The Comp-Tac has two "ears" that bend forward on the paddle to keep the holster on the belt and two velcro (the hard half of the velcro) dots that provide friction to keep the paddle from moving fore or aft on the belt.
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h156/TeikasDad/IMG_5016.jpg

Very nice pics - now I know what a FOBUS is.

btaylor
01-01-2013, 14:35
I have had a couple Fobus holsters--owb. They are great. They conceal well owb under a loose shirt. They are tough, and my draw is smooth and fast out of one. I have been carrying this one now for about 3 years, and have never had one problem out of it.

Yep, my experience as well. Stick with the basic model, KISS.

SCmasterblaster
01-01-2013, 16:46
If the chinese would counterfeit a fobus, that's proof that they'd counterfeit anything. Why oh why would you make a knockoff of one of the least sought after holsters available? What's next, knockoffs of uncle mike's holsters? We may already be too late.....

The Chinese, expecially the nationalist Chinese on Formosa, do not honor any patents or copyrights.

tango44
01-02-2013, 08:16
Love my Fobus GL26, it's my personal favorite holster when I'm at the property and IDPA competitions, never had a problem with it!
Also with my 1911.

mattallamerican
01-02-2013, 22:17
any one know anything about the iwb model for glocks

HKLovingIT
01-04-2013, 15:17
I have one. Model GL2 I believe. Just the regular plain paddle style. It seems to work okay with a G17 but the muzzle sticks out past the end of the holster which I don't like.

Sometimes with a G26 in it, for whatever reason, it comes out with the gun. I only use it around the hacienda.

I don't think I would personally use it outside the property. I prefer the Safariland 6378 ALS.

Maybe there are more specific models and mine is generic for Glocks. :dunno: It was on the shelf and cheap and for what I use it for it's fine.

tango44
01-04-2013, 15:22
I have one. Model GL2 I believe. Just the regular plain paddle style. It seems to work okay with a G17 but the muzzle sticks out past the end of the holster which I don't like.

Sometimes with a G26 in it, for whatever reason, it comes out with the gun. I only use it around the hacienda.

I don't think I would personally use it outside the property. I prefer the Safariland 6378 ALS.

Maybe there are more specific models and mine is generic for Glocks. :dunno: It was on the shelf and cheap and for what I use it for it's fine.

The GL2 is specific for the G17/G19/G34 size.
The GL26 is specific for the G26/G27/G33 size.

Cream Soda Kid
01-04-2013, 15:44
I wasted the twenty something dollars I paid for mine. It was very difficult to draw the pistol from the holster. I did the recommended fixes that were suggested by the company, nothing worked, I sent it back, they sent me another one, same problems.


I ended up giving it away to a friend after telling him the problems I had. Next time I see him Iíll have to ask him how itís worked out for him.


I wonít buy another one.

allegro
01-13-2013, 21:22
Thanks to everybody for the opinions. Not really a consensus, but GREAT reading regardless of the stance.

Everyone be careful!

Indianashooter
01-13-2013, 21:38
I've never used a Fobus gun holster but I did use there combo mag carrier/flash light holder. Carried my 6P in it (along with a spare mag) and never had an issue. Had good retention.