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Nestor
12-25-2012, 19:10
...well, would You help me out here?
I know that pretty much every, new 1911 sold these days has all the bells and whistles and it makes perfect sense.
However I would like to build myself a bit more of nostalgia type of pistol.
I'm not really committed to keep it close to any, particular era, but I would appreciate classic look...You know...more like modern upgrades tastefully blended into the classic appearance type of 1911A1.
Base model - SA Mil-Spec parkerized.
So far I'm leaning toward few upgrades, but still looking for some interesting ideas. I have time and don't want to hurry into something that doesn't make sense - just looks nice.
I never experience a hammer bite with classic hammer, so I would like to keep it. Some good quality wood grips or classic G10 grips. Replacing the sights and internals. Solid long trigger and probably checkered slide stop and safety.

So far I'm thinking...
Rear sight:
1911 Auto Retro Rear Sight
HARRISON DESIGN & CONSULTING
or
National Match U-Notch Rear Sight
10-8 PERFORMANCE LLC

Front sight...cutting the dovetail and buying a gold pin front sight of some kind.

Wide spur hammer from EMC.

Grip safety...uhmmm...I don't believe that anyone makes such thing....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/Admon/gripsafety2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/Admon/gripsafety1.jpg

...do You? Probably custom part, but I really, really like it.
Maybe some pictures?
Post them if You can.
It's an open discussion, so feel free to share anything 1911 retro related.
Love these pistols.
Thanks :wavey:

Steel Head
12-25-2012, 19:24
I like the look of the Grip safety in the pic,I get hammer bite bad with the original GI grip safety.
The wide hammer looks great too.
Gold bead front site,yep.
Deviating from the GI rear site a bit is A OK in my book as a good sight picture is important to me.
I've seen some slightly extended thumb safety's that look really classy too.

Nestor
12-25-2012, 20:01
Thanks. Yes, this grip safety looks like comfortable solution that still keep up with the classic look.
I'm only 37 and my vision is OK, but it's not as good as it used to be, so good sights are must, especially since I would like to keep this gun for years to come.
Slightly extended thumb safety would be more than OK in my book, but not by much.
Is there a long, solid trigger that would be the right choice for such project (I need the long one as my fingers are really long) while providing acceptable performance?

Steel Head
12-25-2012, 20:49
Yes there are long solid triggers.
At about your age is when started to occasionally needed glasses to read:faint:

Nestor
12-25-2012, 21:21
HARRISON DESIGN & CONSULTING - 1911 Auto Extreme Service Trigger (long black) seems like a good choice.

Nestor
12-25-2012, 22:11
I'm going to use these grip panels (real red european stag) - pretty neutral in terms of aesthetics - found them in my "treasure box", so why not to save some money?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/Admon/IMG_3451.jpg

glock2740
12-25-2012, 23:31
...well, would You help me out here?
I know that pretty much every, new 1911 sold these days has all the bells and whistles and it makes perfect sense.
However I would like to build myself a bit more of nostalgia type of pistol.
I'm not really committed to keep it close to any, particular era, but I would appreciate classic look...You know...more like modern upgrades tastefully blended into the classic appearance type of 1911A1.
Base model - SA Mil-Spec parkerized.
So far I'm leaning toward few upgrades, but still looking for some interesting ideas. I have time and don't want to hurry into something that doesn't make sense - just looks nice.
I never experience a hammer bite with classic hammer, so I would like to keep it. Some good quality wood grips or classic G10 grips. Replacing the sights and internals. Solid long trigger and probably checkered slide stop and safety.

So far I'm thinking...
Rear sight:
1911 Auto Retro Rear Sight
HARRISON DESIGN & CONSULTING
or
National Match U-Notch Rear Sight
10-8 PERFORMANCE LLC

Front sight...cutting the dovetail and buying a gold pin front sight of some kind.

Wide spur hammer from EMC.

Grip safety...uhmmm...I don't believe that anyone makes such thing....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/Admon/gripsafety2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/Admon/gripsafety1.jpg

...do You? Probably custom part, but I really, really like it.
Maybe some pictures?
Post them if You can.
It's an open discussion, so feel free to share anything 1911 retro related.
Love these pistols.
Thanks :wavey:
Is that a Pistol Dynamics posted in those pics? :dunno:

Nestor
12-25-2012, 23:41
I don't know - these are some pictures from the web, but I like the grip safety for sure.

ps. Yes it's one of the Pistol Dynamics project guns.

Jim Watson
12-26-2012, 00:14
A beavertail that looks good with a spur hammer is a rarity.
PD is the logical source. Fasten your seatbelt before reading his price quote for that type of work.

Nestor
12-26-2012, 00:17
All work will be done by the local, Canadian 1911 guru.
Much cheaper I guess, but he knows his stuff.

Nestor
12-26-2012, 00:29
May be much cheaper just to re-shape the GI grip safety and replace the hammer with the shorter one.
Something like that - except for the mainspring housing which I would like to have checkered.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/Admon/Retro6.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/Admon/Retro7.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/Admon/Retro11.jpg

1911Tuner
12-26-2012, 04:24
I like it. Sticking close to the original contour not only preservers classic lines, it also serves a function by creating a spot weld that doesn't require a gorilla grip on the gun to keep if from shifting its position in the hand the way that the upswept ducktail grip safety does.

Tiro Fijo
12-26-2012, 04:37
Looks like an attenuated version of the Gray Guns hardtail.

bac1023
12-26-2012, 08:42
Is that a Pistol Dynamics posted in those pics? :dunno:

It looks like it for sure. :cool:

bac1023
12-26-2012, 08:43
A beavertail that looks good with a spur hammer is a rarity.
PD is the logical source. Fasten your seatbelt before reading his price quote for that type of work.

Yeah, he does some great work though. :)

CAcop
12-28-2012, 21:30
King's used to make a grip safety like that one that was drop in. If you find one on ebay it is not going to look as good at the one posted but close.

In the old days they would get that look by welding on metal to the GS then filing to fit. If you are going to have a smith do it, why not?

fnfalman
12-28-2012, 22:14
HARRISON DESIGN & CONSULTING - 1911 Auto Extreme Service Trigger (long black) seems like a good choice.

I have a couple of those installed on my Colts. I like the long trigger but I hate the plastic trigger bow ones that come with Colt guns, and I don't want to spend outrageous money on Gucci brands with three holes drilled into the trigger, so the Harrison triggers were good to go for me.

Nestor
12-28-2012, 22:39
King's used to make a grip safety like that one that was drop in. If you find one on ebay it is not going to look as good at the one posted but close.

In the old days they would get that look by welding on metal to the GS then filing to fit. If you are going to have a smith do it, why not?

Thanks. Yes, seems like King's safety would be the right solution.
Also - I'm thinking about buying the standard beavertail safety and grinding it down to the size of the grip safety showed on the first picture.

Nestor
12-28-2012, 22:40
I have a couple of those installed on my Colts. I like the long trigger but I hate the plastic trigger bow ones that come with Colt guns, and I don't want to spend outrageous money on Gucci brands with three holes drilled into the trigger, so the Harrison triggers were good to go for me.

Thanks. I like the solid triggers much better. The three holes used to be the sign of custom trigger job - now it's more like a standard and quite often the solid trigger is the sign of the custom trigger job :)

ca survivor
12-29-2012, 07:39
I have been toying with similar Idea an almost stock 1911, good luck on your pro jet, let us know what you end up with.

Nestor
12-29-2012, 14:14
Thanks, it may take some time, but that's the fun part after all - to look around, trying to find the solutions, accessories and parts :)

Local dealer has something in stock that may work with the wide spur hammer I believe...

http://www.marstar.ca/product_images/Accessories/partsandacc/colt/colt1911/COL-013-B.jpg

bac1023
12-29-2012, 20:25
I love a retro build.

This is a Colt WWI reproduction with the retro custom package by Heirloom Precision. :cool:


http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr97/briancut1023/000_3872.jpg

RonS
12-30-2012, 20:23
I love almost everything Heirloom Precision turns out, but the rear sight just doesn't look retro to me. I always liked the one off that Roy Huntington had on the engraved 1911 that was the cover gun a couple of years ago in AH. If Terry Tussey would produce those sights I would buy several sets, one for my current 1911 and a couple to put back for future use.

http://tusseycustom.com/articles/a-league-of-extraordinary-gentlemen/

samuse
12-30-2012, 21:24
+1 for the Harrison trigger. They're tops.

As far as rear sights for a retro...

I've used the 10-8 NM and the Harrison and didn't like either one.

With both of 'em the notch is too deep and you can see the whole top of the slide in the sight picture. The set screw in the 10-8 is not in the center of the sight, if you're dovetail ain't perfect it'll rock the sight back and it looks terrible. I'm not very fond of the 'U' notch on the 10-8 and the angled face on the Harrison can be prone to glare in sunlight.

IMO, the perfect retro rear sight is a factory Colt series 70 reissue rear. It's solid black, looks old-school, looks clean and is CHEAP. I think the notch is .130 or .135 but can easily be opened up to whatever you want and the notch is not too deep.

I like straight cocking serrations on a retro...

A Colt Commander hammer looks classic, especially if you can find an old King's grip safety.

If I were gonna do another retro I'd use a Colt 70 or a Caspian frame and slide and have it done up the way I wanted.

bac1023
12-30-2012, 21:29
I love almost everything Heirloom Precision turns out, but the rear sight just doesn't look retro to me. I always liked the one off that Roy Huntington had on the engraved 1911 that was the cover gun a couple of years ago in AH. If Terry Tussey would produce those sights I would buy several sets, one for my current 1911 and a couple to put back for future use.

http://tusseycustom.com/articles/a-league-of-extraordinary-gentlemen/

That's a Harrison rear sight that Heirloom uses.

Nestor
12-31-2012, 18:12
I'm starting to think about buying a bare stock Norinco 1911 and turning it into the retro project instead of the SA MilSpec.
MilSpec fits better into the more modern project - maybe Marine style pistol?

samuse
01-01-2013, 20:32
I'm starting to think about buying a bare stock Norinco 1911 and turning it into the retro project instead of the SA MilSpec.
MilSpec fits better into the more modern project - maybe Marine style pistol?


Yeah man...

Yeah.

http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab76/sammuse/MEUSOC/25s5zrs.jpg

Nestor
01-02-2013, 06:07
Yeah man...

Yeah.

http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab76/sammuse/MEUSOC/25s5zrs.jpg

There You go...now, how to wear the finish out like that...is my another question :rofl:
Just joking.
I sure like the way it looks, so much character there.

bac1023
01-02-2013, 06:29
I'm starting to think about buying a bare stock Norinco 1911 and turning it into the retro project instead of the SA MilSpec.
MilSpec fits better into the more modern project - maybe Marine style pistol?
The Norinco 1911 is a solid platform for custom work.

They aren't refined, but use great quality materials.

d90king
01-09-2013, 12:40
Here is my Harrison Retro build that he did for me a few years back.

Base gun was a NIB Colt WWI Repro
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t5/d90king/38d77ffb.jpg
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t5/d90king/c663b305.jpg