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musclegto
12-29-2012, 09:43
My dad let me take his 357 magnum to the range yesterday, beautiful gun, big bang, however I was having trouble hitting a target at the range. I think I was shooting high, not completely able to confirm. I then procedded to put a nice group near the center with my glock 17. Just thought I would share, even though I can't shoot it for ****, I'm in love with the gun

sombunya
12-29-2012, 10:56
I gave my brother a Model 19 4".

The easiest revolver to hit with that I've ever shot. Period.

My brother, a rarely to occasional shooter at best, felt the same way about it.

byf43
12-29-2012, 11:23
S&W mdl 19-4 4" was my first revolver purchase - 1979.
RR/WO - TT/TH. Rosewood grip panels. (Bought a set of Goncalo Alves grip panels for it, too.)
Bangor Punta era Smith and Wesson.


Easily my most favorite revolver.

Over 15,000 rounds through this magnificent revolver!!

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/byf43/SWmdl19-3.jpg

:thumbsup:

686Owner
12-29-2012, 11:30
Were you shooting double action?

norton
12-29-2012, 11:32
The 19 is a sweetheart. Don't shoot too many hot .357's through it.
Its really a .38 Special shooter and a .357 mag carry gun.

byf43
12-29-2012, 11:35
The 19 is a sweetheart. Don't shoot too many hot .357's through it.
Its really a .38 Special shooter and a .357 mag carry gun.



VERY much agreed!!!!!!

The barrel on my 19-4 had to be replaced. The barrel cracked above the ejector shroud - 1.25"!
Cause - Remington 125 gr semi-jacket hollowpoints!!

Since I got it back from S&W, the majority of rounds are .38 Special loads in .357 cases.
Really mild. Very accurate.

Line Rider
12-29-2012, 11:41
The Smith and Wesson Model 19... now that's a man's gun.

Jack_Pine
12-29-2012, 11:45
Were you shooting double action?

My thought as well..............

musclegto
12-29-2012, 12:16
By double action shooting do you mean pulling the hammer back and then pulling the trigger? If so, I was not. I actually thought about that getting home, noticing how much less trigger travel there was once the hammer was set back.

Berto
12-29-2012, 12:27
By double action shooting do you mean pulling the hammer back and then pulling the trigger? If so, I was not. I actually thought about that getting home, noticing how much less trigger travel there was once the hammer was set back.

Double action; Trigger performs two funnctions, drawing hammer back, then releasing it.

Single action; Trigger performs one function, releasing hammer.


You were shooting double action. That's tougher if you're not familiar with DA revolvers. Once you master it though, it can be very fast and the skillset carries over nicely to all other handguns.

The Model 19 is one of the very best combat handguns, ever.

musclegto
01-03-2013, 15:17
quick question fellas, is the hammer nose supposed to have play? Noticed the other day that there is some wiggle. Are there any specs?

JLB768
01-03-2013, 15:23
Recently became the owner of this 19-3 nickel...

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8197/8191525969_31d470bdf0_b.jpg

BEER
01-03-2013, 15:30
this target will help you figure out what you were doing that made you miss.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v491/SCOWL1313/guns/correction_chart.gif

Cybercowboy
01-03-2013, 15:30
I'm not even sure what model my S&W .357 is. It was my first handgun ever and I think it's about 50 years old.

http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx125/Cybercowboy1961/D30E22A9-1606-4454-A04B-A3FDEA1E2088-1421-000002C243D47FB0.jpg

BEER
01-03-2013, 15:32
I'm not even sure what model my S&W .357 is. It was my first handgun ever and I think it's about 50 years old.

http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx125/Cybercowboy1961/D30E22A9-1606-4454-A04B-A3FDEA1E2088-1421-000002C243D47FB0.jpg

open the cylinder and there might be a model # marked on the frame under the yoke. that one looks like a model 66 to my untrained eye.

Cybercowboy
01-03-2013, 15:35
open the cylinder and there might be a model # marked on the frame under the yoke. that one looks like a model 66 to my untrained eye.

Ah, thanks. It is a model 66-2. :wavey:

MtBaldy
01-03-2013, 15:41
Had a 4" Mod. 19 I bought new in 1978. Beautiful gun and great shooter. I shot .357 in mine almost exclusively and reloaded some pretty hot loads with no trouble. Gun was stolen out of my car parked in my mother's driveway by someone I thought was a friend a few years later. He denied it but he was the only one with opportunity in the very brief time I was in the house. I had no proof so let it go. Got a call from the county police a few years later saying they had taken it off a drug dealer they busted. Aside from some holster wear it was in pretty good shape. I sold it shortly after I got it back.

Fox
01-03-2013, 15:48
The S&W K-frame is rather light for .357 Magnum loads, the greater mass of the larger S&W L-frame revolvers is better for taming the recoil.

byf43
01-03-2013, 15:55
The S&W K-frame is rather light for .357 Magnum loads, the greater mass of the larger S&W L-frame revolvers is better for taming the recoil.


A fairly local FFL has a couple of the "Classic mdl 27" in stock.
4" barrel, with service stocks.

He's wanting $900 + 'fees'. (Tax and fees for registration with MSP.)

I'd love to have one, but, I'm not too sure about the $$$, especially since these have "The Lock".

:dunno:

Cybercowboy
01-03-2013, 16:00
And apparently the model 66's were from the early 80's. My 6" barrel stainless version is in great shape but not as rare as the 2.5" barrel limited run version or the very rare 3" version.

Yes, a few minutes of interwebbing has made me into an expert! :D

Fox
01-03-2013, 16:04
A fairly local FFL has a couple of the "Classic mdl 27" in stock.
4" barrel, with service stocks.

He's wanting $900 + 'fees'. (Tax and fees for registration with MSP.)

I'd love to have one, but, I'm not too sure about the $$$, especially since these have "The Lock".

:dunno:

I would pass on anything with a lock built into it. Better to check with the local pawnshops for vintage guns that might only needs some restoration work IMO.

forresme
01-03-2013, 16:05
My Model 19 is probably my favorite gun. The trigger is amazing, but typical S&W. I had mine in the original box for years, and it had never been shot. Took it to gun shop one day when a S&W tech was there. He told me not to shoot it in that it would probably be worth some pretty good money one day. I could not resist and took it out to shoot. Have been shooting it ever since. He told me the barrel on it was worth about $400 by itself. Mine has the competition sights and trigger. I have no plans to ever sell it.

Spiffums
01-03-2013, 17:53
I got a nice blued 6". I'd love a nice round butt 3". I'd pimp that out like nobody's business!

goldenlight
01-04-2013, 13:06
VERY much agreed!!!!!!

The barrel on my 19-4 had to be replaced. The barrel cracked above the ejector shroud - 1.25"!
Cause - Remington 125 gr semi-jacket hollowpoints!!

Since I got it back from S&W, the majority of rounds are .38 Special loads in .357 cases.
Really mild. Very accurate.

I do the same thing with my S&W L-frame 357 magnum 686, which IS rated for continuous use of magnum loads.

I found that loading 38 Special loads in 357 magnum cases gave me better accuracy. They are real ***** cat loads in the fairly heavy 686; it has a full under lug barrel.

The revolver doesn't recoil so much as it just moves enough to take the sights off target.

I would LOVE to get my hands on a 2 1/2" Model 19 or Model 66, to use as a carry weapon.

Those older pinned and recessed Model 19's are just sweet to shoot. Those revolvers got a LOT of hand fitting that even S&W revolvers no longer get, today.

G23Gen4TX
01-04-2013, 13:37
I have a 66-6 with a 3.25" barrel and high viz sights. It has the lock but who cares? It shoots really nice.

I have one box of Remington 125gr .357. Is it bad if I shoot it? I won't buy the light rounds again after reading about the cracks but to be honest, I don't like shooting .38 special out of it. I bought it for the BANG.

Not my gun but mine is exactly the same.

http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww99/Cowbell45/100_0449.jpg

norton
01-04-2013, 14:36
this target will help you figure out what you were doing that made you miss.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v491/SCOWL1313/guns/correction_chart.gif

Or maybe you need to adjust the sights.

Sgt127
01-04-2013, 15:38
quick question fellas, is the hammer nose supposed to have play? Noticed the other day that there is some wiggle. Are there any specs?

Hammer nose should pivot a tiny bit up and down, but, not side to side. Some have a small spring in them (Usually .357) some don't (usually .38).

clancy
01-04-2013, 16:17
My second handgun was a S&W Model 19, I don't know what dash it was but it was waaaay back in 1978, when dinosaurs still roamed the earth. I can remember taking it home, cleaning it, running some .38's through it, then I loaded it with .357's. The gun froze solid on the second shot, couldn't pull the trigger, pull back the hammer, nor open the cylinder.
I went right back to the gunshop I bough it from and they sent it to Smith, and about 3 month later I got the pistol back. It was, if memory serves, the trigger stop mechanism that was bad, but it was so long ago I could be mistaken.

I do, remember, though, a buddy of mine who bought a Model 19 in 1988, and had the identical thing happen to him. I though it rather odd that S&W would not have remedied the issue 10 years later.

byf43
01-04-2013, 16:53
My second handgun was a S&W Model 19, I don't know what dash it was but it was waaaay back in 1978, when dinosaurs still roamed the earth. I can remember taking it home, cleaning it, running some .38's through it, then I loaded it with .357's. The gun froze solid on the second shot, couldn't pull the trigger, pull back the hammer, nor open the cylinder.
I went right back to the gunshop I bough it from and they sent it to Smith, and about 3 month later I got the pistol back. It was, if memory serves, the trigger stop mechanism that was bad, but it was so long ago I could be mistaken.

I do, remember, though, a buddy of mine who bought a Model 19 in 1988, and had the identical thing happen to him. I though it rather odd that S&W would not have remedied the issue 10 years later.

The ejector rod on my 19-4 came loose and bound up the gun, about 30-40 rounds.
The gunsmith at the LGS took care of it, and put a drop of Loctite "blue" on the threads.

No more problems with that.

musclegto
01-05-2013, 20:18
nice guns fellas

samuse
01-05-2013, 21:06
I had 19-7 that I sold a couple years ago.

Still regret it and it's gonna be something I replace in 2013.

My New Year's resolution this year is to replace all the guns I sold and regret.

Berto
01-05-2013, 21:22
My second handgun was a S&W Model 19, I don't know what dash it was but it was waaaay back in 1978, when dinosaurs still roamed the earth. I can remember taking it home, cleaning it, running some .38's through it, then I loaded it with .357's. The gun froze solid on the second shot, couldn't pull the trigger, pull back the hammer, nor open the cylinder.
I went right back to the gunshop I bough it from and they sent it to Smith, and about 3 month later I got the pistol back. It was, if memory serves, the trigger stop mechanism that was bad, but it was so long ago I could be mistaken.

I do, remember, though, a buddy of mine who bought a Model 19 in 1988, and had the identical thing happen to him. I though it rather odd that S&W would not have remedied the issue 10 years later.

It's fairly rare, but the trigger stop is known for tying up K frames.

NAS T MAG
01-05-2013, 21:26
I have plenty of other guns to shoot, so I just open the wooden presentation case and look at this beauty every once in a while.

http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu220/NAS-T-MAG/43SmithWesson29-3.jpg

VinnieG
01-05-2013, 21:35
The 19 is an awsome and beautiful revolver. I love the classic smiths.

Caver 60
01-05-2013, 22:28
Still got my mod 19 that I bought new in the 60's. Put several thousand 357 hand loads through it and Lord only knows how many thousand 38 special hand loads downrange. Still in good shape. Always used iron sights, never a scope.

I remember one day in the 70's, I was shooting at a local uncontrolled range when a friend drove up. I had just fired six 357 loads single action at 100 yards shooting from a sandbagged bench rest at a standard 25 yard slow fire target. I then wanted to shoot another 25 yard target single action from a standing position at 100 yards before we went down range.

My friend said 'sure go ahead.' So I cranked off 6 more rounds from a standing position. We walked down range to check my targets and for my friend to put up his targets.

I walked up to the target I had fired from the bench rest first. My friends eyes almost bugged out when he saw six holes in the black. I said 'no this was the target I fired from the bench rest, just before you drove up.'

This is the target I just shot while you were watching. All six were in the rings or the bulls eye. This with iron sights.

One fine accurate revolver. The revolver is still accurate. Unfortunately my eyes went south quite a few years ago as I got older. Glasses only help so much. I couldn't do that well now.