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Fox
12-29-2012, 09:50
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/12/27/Sen-Feinstein-Time-To-Register-All-Firearms

Even as news that Sen. Dianne Feinstein's (D-CA) "Assault Weapon" ban is really a ban on some of the most popular civilian-owned handguns in the U.S., details of her promised legislation also show that it will require gun owners to register their guns with the government.

Atlas
12-29-2012, 09:52
Upon what lawful authority would the federal government impose a requirement of registration for any firearm I may (or may not) already own?

Diesel_Bomber
12-29-2012, 09:57
Last I checked, the US states that require firearm registration had not solved a single crime with said registration, while costing the taxpayer millions of dollars.

Likewise Canada, who is about to or just threw out their registration due to it's cost and ineffectiveness.

I know, I know, gun grabbers are not interested in fighting crime, they want to take away guns. One step at a time............

Michael Rye
12-29-2012, 10:19
Frankly, I have never understood the point of registration.

If you are shot and killed with a registered firearm are you somehow magically less dead than you would have been had the gun not been registered?

Oh...but at least the police know where the guns are...

Okay. But how does knowing where the guns are prevent something from happening?

And if someone is hell bent on doing something bad, do they really care if the gun is registered?

sheriff733
12-29-2012, 10:31
Frankly, I have never understood the point of registration.

If you are shot and killed with a registered firearm are you somehow magically less dead than you would have been had the gun not been registered?

Oh...but at least the police know where the guns are...

Okay. But how does knowing where the guns are prevent something from happening?

And if someone is hell bent on doing something bad, do they really care if the gun is registered?

Take your facts and reasonable, logical thinking elsewhere. The left is not interested in such.

ithaca_deerslayer
12-29-2012, 10:36
Very good article. They want registration, control, then confiscation.

byf43
12-29-2012, 10:43
Amendment II

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.



Again, but in condensed form:

"...the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."


Exactly what part of this do these people not understand?????
:dunno:

The Machinist
12-29-2012, 10:43
Frankly, I have never understood the point of registration.

If you are shot and killed with a registered firearm are you somehow magically less dead than you would have been had the gun not been registered?

Oh...but at least the police know where the guns are...

Okay. But how does knowing where the guns are prevent something from happening?

And if someone is hell bent on doing something bad, do they really care if the gun is registered?
You see, you're approaching this from the perspective of a peaceful, free citizen, who doesn't wish ill upon others. In that context, what Feinswine is proposing is completely illogical.

Her designs are solely to cement the power of the state over the citizenry. This is about incrementally ratcheting up the authority and control that the federal government can exercise over us, and usurping our sovereignty. In that context, what she and her partners in crime are doing makes perfect sense.

byf43
12-29-2012, 10:51
You see, you're approaching this from the perspective of a peaceful, free citizen, who doesn't wish ill upon others. In that context, what Feinswine is proposing is completely illogical.

Her designs are solely to cement the power of the state over the citizenry. This is about incrementally ratcheting up the authority and control that the federal government can exercise over us, and usurping our sovereignty. In that context, what she and her partners in crime are doing makes perfect sense.


Modeled after the Union of Soviet Socialists Republic.

Welcome to the new "States of Socialist Amerika". In short: SSA.

Restless28
12-29-2012, 10:54
..........

concretefuzzynuts
12-29-2012, 11:01
This assumes all gun owners are potential criminals. I am offended.

Fastbear
12-29-2012, 11:32
Big gov more like communism every day. Now that we are in 2nd term roll over the working class let the government in D.C. roll out the rest of their crappy ideas to eliminate the average Joe's freedom.

jakebrake
12-29-2012, 11:36
i gotta go through this nonsense for d.h.s. clearance to drive an oil tanker. tell her to ask big sis for my info.:steamed:

JVMHGF
12-29-2012, 11:53
Registration, in my opinion, is to make it easier to confiscate weapons when there is a crime in an area. Somebody in my neighborhood gets shot by 9mm, the police will just look up who has 9mm handguns in the neighborhood and start knocking on doors and confiscating weapons ... in my opinion.

Registration also gives the government a nice big database they can peruse, at will, to perform all sorts of analytics. The possibilities are endless. Some examples: Who are my 18-24 year olds, male, with Glock handguns and AR-15's? Who, out of this group, carries concealed? Where is the highest concentration of 18-24 year olds, male, with Glocks or AR-15s. This information could be sold, also. Data/Information is the new oil in America. Information can never run out.

Registration preventing crimes? Never. It's just record-keeping. Nothing less, nothing more.

fnfalman
12-29-2012, 11:54
Feinstein is a gun owner, so registration and fingerprinting should start with her.

wavetrain75
12-29-2012, 11:56
So has Flipper been out sick or something?

G29Reload
12-29-2012, 11:56
Oh...but at least the police know where the guns are...

Were.

NorthernAlpine
12-29-2012, 12:10
Political ramifications of foolishness. This is kind of disconnect that happens when we have politicians that have a net worth of $70 million+, are surrounded by armed guards, and travel via private jet and motorcade.

The real question is:

Is it possible that someone who, at one point stood on the 111th US Intelligence Committee and sampled a taste of the global situation through the worlds best intel organizations and whose parents left mother Russia due to Jewish persecution, actually be dumb enough to miss the political ramifications of what they're doing?

Answer: Remains to be visible, by going about it she has spiked firearms sales like we have all seen. Smart money says she is both surrounded by 'yes' men that are causing an epic case of group-think and most likely owns a butt-load of AR company stock to be sold once things calm down, capitalizing on the short term spike in sales via the pseudo-panic she helped create. :steamed:

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Green Dragoon
12-29-2012, 12:13
Modeled after the Union of Soviet Socialists Republic.

Welcome to the new "States of Socialist Amerika". In short: SSA.

hmm...following the Soviets acronym protocol, we may be:

Union of Amercan Socitalists Republic. UASR:dunno:

G29Reload
12-29-2012, 12:19
Go ahead @#$%! , bring the crazy so that NO ONE votes for it.

Shovel crazy like there's no tomorrow. Turn every gun into the NFA registry.

Now why don't you suggest that they all be locked up at police stations where the .gov will hold them for us for safekeeping, and we can only get them when we NEED them and of course they should determine that too, at which point we can come get them for a few hours with our ration of 10 rounds of ammo which is MORE than anyone could need. Right?

Make it super crazy and paint it in zebra stripes. Keep going! Even Chucky will hate it when its finished.


Idiots.

Kingarthurhk
12-29-2012, 19:28
If I have to go through that, I may as well pay a tax stamp and get NFA items.

SIG-SOG
12-29-2012, 19:32
Very good article. They want registration, control, then confiscation.

There can be no confiscation on a large scale without registration. Anyone thinking this is about the children, Detroit, Chicago etc. is not getting the point.

janice6
12-29-2012, 19:38
Spoken by a member of Congress that has an approval rating from the citizens of either 5.5% or 12.5%. They really have their finger on the pulse of this nation.

http://www.rollcall.com/news/survey_sees_the_nadir_of_congress_approval_rating-219800-1.html

cesaros
12-29-2012, 19:51
I like the possibility of being treated like a criminal, because I have a hobby.

'Merica.

This countrys leaders are superb.

el_jewapo
12-29-2012, 20:25
Being registered and finger printed is surely the answer to gun crime. No way a registered, finger printed gun owner could flip out and kill someone. This woman is a real life saver.

shadow_dog
12-29-2012, 20:49
DemoCrap BS

TurtleBoy617
12-30-2012, 13:57
If i have to register them under the NFA, I better get a full auto conversion for my trouble!

Stupid liberals.

M&P Shooter
12-30-2012, 14:13
Go ahead @#$%! , bring the crazy so that NO ONE votes for it.

Shovel crazy like there's no tomorrow. Turn every gun into the NFA registry.

Now why don't you suggest that they all be locked up at police stations where the .gov will hold them for us for safekeeping, and we can only get them when we NEED them and of course they should determine that too, at which point we can come get them for a few hours with our ration of 10 rounds of ammo which is MORE than anyone could need. Right?

Make it super crazy and paint it in zebra stripes. Keep going! Even Chucky will hate it when its finished.


Idiots.
I agree 100% I think they went ultra mega crazy to the point they screwed themselves:rofl:

cowboywannabe
12-30-2012, 14:22
thats the rub, grandfather in the guns already owned and those folks will now bow down to the ban or registration because it doesnt effect them.

Fox
12-30-2012, 14:23
Modeled after the Union of Soviet Socialists Republic.

Welcome to the new "States of Socialist Amerika". In short: SSA.

“We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America.”

- Obama just before the 2008 election.

countrygun
12-30-2012, 14:33
Politicians are more dangerous to my Country than my guns. I want background checks and psychological evaluations of all of them to be part of the public record. Forget the fingerprinting and ID photo, or campaign picture will be good enough.

iLift45's
12-30-2012, 14:35
Funny how we are hearing a lot more about resistance and a revolution.

mr00jimbo
12-30-2012, 14:36
Last I checked, the US states that require firearm registration had not solved a single crime with said registration, while costing the taxpayer millions of dollars.

Likewise Canada, who is about to or just threw out their registration due to it's cost and ineffectiveness.

I know, I know, gun grabbers are not interested in fighting crime, they want to take away guns. One step at a time............

Got rid of it earlier this year. Cost 2 billion dollars. Didn't solve a crime. Handguns still registered, but that should go out the door, too.
Canada is proof at how useless it is. I think some guy successfully registered a power tool, using its volt rating as a caliber...

Fox
12-30-2012, 14:42
Funny how we are hearing a lot more about resistance and a revolution.

Escapist fantasy,

Most like to daydream about shooting faceless "blue helmets" from the U.N. Few have ever seen war and they don't want to contemplate shooting neighbors, friends, and even relatives which is what really happens in a civil war.

There is a reason why the American Civil War was called "brother against brother".

I am not even getting into the hardships and deprivations of war, especially for guerrilla fighters that don't have the outside support of a nation state. Remember that our founding fathers were losing until France got involved.

Happypuppy
12-30-2012, 14:53
Know what else is registered and identifiers used ? Animals. In case you didn't know what the D .C. crowd really thinks of citizens


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concretefuzzynuts
12-30-2012, 15:58
This law assumes all gun owners are potential criminals.

Since there are more drunk driving related deaths than gun deaths, will this stupid liberal propose interlock devices on all cars? After all, all drivers could be potential criminals with their logic.

EdTracker
12-30-2012, 16:22
"Politicians are more dangerous to my Country than my guns. I want background checks and psychological evaluations of all of them to be part of the public record. Forget the fingerprinting and ID photo, or campaign picture will be good enough. "

If it would save just one child...

pizza_pablo
12-30-2012, 17:12
:steamed: DIDN'T SHE SEE RED DAWN???!!!????

Besides that, how is this broke *** country gonna pay for it, not to mention all the broke *** states that will bear the burden of actually doing it! :steamed:

SIG-SOG
12-30-2012, 17:20
Sex offenders are registered and fingerprinted. Is she equating us to sex offenders? Really.

VC-Racing
12-30-2012, 17:56
TOS prevent me from saying what I want to.

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sheriff733
12-30-2012, 18:31
Sex offenders are registered and fingerprinted. Is she equating us to sex offenders? Really.

Honestly, to liberals, I think us law abiding gun-owners are even lower than sex offenders in their eyes.

I really believe that.