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jad45
12-30-2012, 23:29
I believe it can be said that current federal gun laws are unconstitutional. Based on that premise, I'd say that any new gun-related laws, except for laws to repeal, are pretty much going to be pushing us beyond a tipping point.

If the sheeple of this country choose, in mob-rule fashion, to strip/gut the most essential parts of the 2nd amendment...

WHO will resist?
WHAT will YOU do to resist?
WHEN do YOU resist?
WHY will YOU resist (or not resist)?
HOW will you resist?

cowboywannabe
12-30-2012, 23:36
:rofl::rofl: ACTIVELY RESIST:rofl::rofl:

CANT EVEN GET 10% OF GUN OWNERS TO POLITICALLY RESIST BY SUPPORTING THE BIGGEST VOICE THEY HAVE IN WASH D.C.

Huaco Kid
12-30-2012, 23:38
Somebody's sig line here says something like:

"If you get mad as hell and can't take it anymore, run out into the street with your gun! If you're the only one there, it's not time yet."

I like it.

(I haven't googled it to see where it really came from, yet.)

Huaco Kid
12-30-2012, 23:42
I googled it just now.

The post immediately above this one is the only one that came up.

I remember that there is a word for a google search that comes up with only one result. I don't know what that is. Somebody else google it for me.

RyanBDawg
12-30-2012, 23:45
I would hope the majority of police would no be so stupid as to try and go door to door to confiscate guns.

That's never happening in the south, Midwest, Alaska, etc.


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FLIPPER 348
12-30-2012, 23:46
when the secret codes about chair locations and John's facial hair start on the radio (duh)

Ohio Copper
12-30-2012, 23:50
By the time you realize it, it'll already be over...


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RyanBDawg
12-30-2012, 23:50
when the secret codes about chair locations and John's facial hair start on the radio (duh)

WOLVERINES!!!!!!


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427
12-30-2012, 23:58
Nobody is going to resist. Not when most americans are dependent on .gov from entitlements to a retirement check. They won't bite the hand that feeds them.

Americans used to roar like lions for liberty, now we bleat like sheep for security.

SIG-SOG
12-31-2012, 00:02
Nobody is going to resist. Not when most americans are dependent on .gov from entitlements to a retirement check. They won't bite the hand that feeds them.

Americans used to roar like lions for liberty, now we bleat like sheep for security.

These are the lefties. Not the ones to resist.

Annhl8rX
12-31-2012, 00:04
Once again, I'll repeat the words I heard from a smart man recently. "The tyranny is here, and you can't shoot it."

Chainlink
12-31-2012, 00:04
Heard that one before.....absolutely love it.

RyanBDawg
12-31-2012, 00:13
Nobody is going to resist. Not when most americans are dependent on .gov from entitlements to a retirement check. They won't bite the hand that feeds them.

Americans used to roar like lions for liberty, now we bleat like sheep for security.

And what happens when the system collapses and there is no more treasure in the coffers?


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427
12-31-2012, 00:14
These are the lefties. Not the ones to resist.

We gun owners have the numbers to elect and do anything we want politically, but we won't/don't.

Hell, most can't be bothered to contact thier Sen./Rep. much less resist.

We have gun owners voting for obama and the democratic party knowing full well what was going happen while proclaiming, proudly, I might add, that Obama won't touch firearms!

I have no faith in the people.

427
12-31-2012, 00:16
And what happens when the system collapses and there is no more treasure in the coffers?


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You tell me.

MB-G26
12-31-2012, 00:18
in his sig line.


Somebody's sig line here says something like:

"If you get mad as hell and can't take it anymore, run out into the street with your gun! If you're the only one there, it's not time yet."

I like it.

(I haven't googled it to see where it really came from, yet.)

Peace Warrior
12-31-2012, 00:19
I believe it can be said that current federal gun laws are unconstitutional. Based on that premise, I'd say that any new gun-related laws, except for laws to repeal, are pretty much going to be pushing us beyond a tipping point.

If the sheeple of this country choose, in mob-rule fashion, to strip/gut the most essential parts of the 2nd amendment...

WHO will resist?
WHAT will YOU do to resist?
WHEN do YOU resist?
WHY will YOU resist (or not resist)?
HOW will you resist?
Okay, there's a list around here somewhere... it's Red.

RyanBDawg
12-31-2012, 00:21
You tell me.

Urban areas collapse. Rural areas inherit the country?


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Front Sight
12-31-2012, 00:23
RyanBDawg
May I suggest you get on UTUBE look at NRA Katrina. Your question will be answered.

RyanBDawg
12-31-2012, 00:26
We gun owners have the numbers to elect and do anything we want politically, but we won't/don't.

Hell, most can't be bothered to contact thier Sen./Rep. much less resist.

We have gun owners voting for obama and the democratic party knowing full well what was going happen while proclaiming, proudly, I might add, that Obama won't touch firearms!

I have no faith in the people.

If a gun owner lives under someone like Feinsteinn then what are they supposed to do?

You think people haven't already sent her letters opposing her? You think it matters?

Look at who the biggest donors are to both major party candidates.

With that kind of cash neither side has to give a damn about you.

The candidates who get their funding from actual people are completely brushed aside as "loons" who have no chance.



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RyanBDawg
12-31-2012, 00:28
RyanBDawg
May I suggest you get on UTUBE look at NRA Katrina. Your question will be answered.

Yea, and look at what the governor of Mississippi said after Katrina. You loot, people will shoot and will be correct in doing so.

New Orleans is a corrupt cesspool.


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427
12-31-2012, 00:50
If a gun owner lives under someone like Feinsteinn then what are they supposed to do?If. Move?

You think people haven't already sent her letters opposing her?Most gun owners won't do anything doesn't matter who the rep/sen is. We have other gun owners like fudds who are willing to appease the anti gun people.

You think it matters? It's might be better than these silly "hit this poll" threads that show up from time to time.

Look at who the biggest donors are to both major party candidates. Ok.

With that kind of cash neither side has to give a damn about you.They will if one half of one percent of gun owners showed up in DC. But that will never happen.

The candidates who get their funding from actual people are completely brushed aside as "loons" who have no chance. Third parties don't win elections and neither do establishment republicans who collects SS while campaigning against it.

Batesmotel
12-31-2012, 00:53
Somebody's sig line here says something like:

"If you get mad as hell and can't take it anymore, run out into the street with your gun! If you're the only one there, it's not time yet."

I like it.

(I haven't googled it to see where it really came from, yet.)

Rabbi.

RyanBDawg
12-31-2012, 01:06
If. Move?

Yea, move away from a place many have lived all their lives and whose families live there.

Easier said than done.

Again, voting is an illusion. Has been for some time now.

A government maintaining an empire has long ago ignored the people and the constitution.

Perhaps when there is no more Internet or cable tv people will actually take notice.

You talk about how "we gun owners have the numbers", yea and then they vote for someone like Romney because that's who Fox News told them to vote for.


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Critias
12-31-2012, 01:08
We gun owners have the numbers to elect and do anything we want politically, but we won't/don't.
That's because, believe it or not, "gun owner" isn't a political affiliation.

427
12-31-2012, 01:23
Yea, move away from a place many have lived all their lives and whose families live there.

Easier said than done. People move away from home and family all the time for various reasons. It's been going on for thousands of years.

Again, voting is an illusion. Has been for some time now. Really? Then why were you pushing RP for months if you believed voting is an illusion? Or did you conclude that after it became obvious that RP wasn't going to get the nomination?

A government maintaining an empire has long ago ignored the people and the constitution. An empire. hmmm

Perhaps when there is no more Internet or cable tv people will actually take notice.Perhaps

You talk about how "we gun owners have the numbers", yea and then they vote for someone like Romney because that's who Fox News told them to vote for. Fox news told them!? Really?

427
12-31-2012, 01:25
That's because, believe it or not, "gun owner" isn't a political affiliation.

Really!?:upeyes:

The Maggy
12-31-2012, 01:39
I googled it just now.

The post immediately above this one is the only one that came up.

I remember that there is a word for a google search that comes up with only one result. I don't know what that is. Somebody else google it for me.

It's called a googlewhack. Searching without the quotation marks will yield far more results.

The sig line belongs to Rabbi or Dragoon, if I remember correctly.

Ewalk
12-31-2012, 01:45
Yea, move away from a place many have lived all their lives and whose families live there.

Easier said than done.

Again, voting is an illusion. Has been for some time now.

A government maintaining an empire has long ago ignored the people and the constitution.

Perhaps when there is no more Internet or cable tv people will actually take notice.

You talk about how "we gun owners have the numbers", yea and then they vote for someone like Romney because that's who Fox News told them to vote for.


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This Is A Person Who Gets The Problem We Gun Lovers Face In CA. I Have Written My Reps(All Of Them) Even Obama But I Believe It Falls On Closed Ears. I Love My Family And My State But The People Who Are In Power Here Don't Really Represent Me, Why Should We have To move this Is Still America And We CA Gun Owners Just Want To enjoy The Freedoms All Americans Should Be Free To Enjoy.
Thanks Ryan B dawG

Ohio Copper
12-31-2012, 02:06
This Is A Person Who Gets The Problem We Gun Lovers Face In CA. I Have Written My Reps(All Of Them) Even Obama But I Believe It Falls On Closed Ears. I Love My Family And My State But The People Who Are In Power Here Don't Really Represent Me, Why Should We have To move this Is Still America And We CA Gun Owners Just Want To enjoy The Freedoms All Americans Should Be Free To Enjoy.
Thanks Ryan B dawG

I hope you didn't write them like that.


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tacops5372
12-31-2012, 02:37
I asked a buddy of mine who is a long time gun (s) owner, what would you do or say when and if the Govt. came knocking on your door to collect your guns and ammo? His response was did my neighbor give up his guns? Which got me to thinking. We may say things like you will have to peel it out of my cold dead hands, but do we really mean it?... Have become the society of worker bees that we all think almost as a collective and no longer as individuals. We get dressed, we go to work and we pay our taxes. We do everything we think is right and obey the laws of our nation. But will we stand for our rights being violated or will we rise above? Though we may not be the ones to start Civil Unrest in our minds and hearts. The Govt. will tell the world we (gun owners) did....

NEOH212
12-31-2012, 02:48
When Do We Actively Resist?

Who is stupid enough to answer a Federal investigator planted on a gun forum? :whistling:

NEOH212
12-31-2012, 02:51
1. Low post count.

2. Very pointed and controversial questions.

Either a Fed LEO, or a Lib journalist looking for a juicy bit of information to use to peg gun owners as whack jobs.


Maybe not but if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck......:whistling:

Ohio Copper
12-31-2012, 02:54
1. Low post count.

2. Very pointed and controversial questions.

Either a Fed LEO, or a Lib journalist looking for a juicy bit of information to use to peg gun owners as whack jobs.


Maybe not but if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck......:whistling:

And here I thought you liked us LEOs!


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NEOH212
12-31-2012, 03:03
And here I thought you liked us LEOs!


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I'm not saying I don't but if this guy is, I can smell him a mile away!

(Rookie?)

:supergrin:

NEOH212
12-31-2012, 03:14
I will say this much. The only time I believe the civilians should resist with force is when they are given no other choice and all other peaceful options have been exhausted and after the system completely failed to protect their rights.

If it ever did come to that, I really don't believe we would be fighting against Law Enforcement because all the ones I know and have talked with have no intention of complying with any unconstitutional order to confiscate guns from law abiding citizens.

Most people that I know that are in or have been in the Military have expressed the same stance.

The question of who we would be facing should this happen is a good question indeed.

I personally think if it ever did come to that, Our Government would issue the order and some LE and Military would comply but most wouldn't.

At that point, there would be some kind of civil war or uprising between the defected Mil/LE and Civilians against the ones that are still loyal to the Government at that time.

I could see UN troops getting involved and crap hitting the fan in short order.

It would be utter chaos and there would be no winner. The USA would cease to exist as we know it today and God only knows where it would lead in the years to follow.

It's my belief that if this ever went down, that this scenario is a real possibility. As far as how much of a chance we would have, I really don't know but I'm certain the battle that would ensue would be a fierce, bloody, and very deadly one for both sides.

I know I really don't ever want anything like that to happen here and is exactly why we need to stick together and vote these Commies out before they get the chance to push things any further in this direction.

Critias
12-31-2012, 03:41
Really!?:upeyes:
Post your roll-eyed smiley face all you want to, I'm not the one going on huge rants about gun owners as though there somehow expected to be a cohesive political force. Do you expect all car owners to vote the same way? Are you disappointed that everyone with a cigarette habit doesn't have the same political ideas as you? Are you made because everyone who owns a hammer doesn't stand up for their hammer-owning rights?

We say all the time that guns are just tools, right? That they don't influence the thinking of their owner, that they don't make their owners do irresponsible things, that they're inanimate objects that aren't to be blamed for someone's actions.

Well, guess what? We don't get it both ways. Either we DO believe that guns are just tools (in which case we don't expect more from gun owners as a group than we do ruler owners or caulking gun owners or ball peen hammer owners), or we rage and preach and gnash our teeth about how gun owners don't do what we want them to do -- which plays right into an ugly "us vs them" mentality, and attributes some sort of political affiliation to a chunk of metal, plastic, and wood.

RyanBDawg
12-31-2012, 03:53
People move away from home and family all the time for various reasons. It's been going on for thousands of years.

Really? Then why were you pushing RP for months if you believed voting is an illusion? Or did you conclude that after it became obvious that RP wasn't going to get the nomination?

An empire. hmmm

Perhaps

Fox news told them!? Really?
I should rephrase my voting is an illusion statement. What I should have said is that voting on a national election is an illusion.

Ron Paul is a rally point for like minded people. A third way if you will.

Rand Paul, his son, is now a US senator. Obviously if Ron Paul had not run in 08 and 12, I don't think his son would be a senator today.

I think we need to focus on local politics. Obviously most of us here on GT live in states that are very pro-gun, and most of our states are the better for it.

In the South, Midwest, the heart of this country, we need to be focusing on more libertarian ideals. We need to reduced the scope of government on all sides.. What we are seeing right now is literally only a small handful of states attempting to impose a radical idealist, and wholly ignorant set of laws onto the rest of us.

The version of the Republican Party that is based on neocon morality principals is no longer viable on a national scale. Either they understand that and more to more libertarian viewpoint on economics, personal liberty, and so on, I don't think they will ever win another national election..


And yes, when you have bases in 2/3rds of the countries on earth, and spend more than the next 20 nations (with 19 other being our allies) on the military then you are maintaining an empire.

We have given hundreds of billions of dollars to countries that could care less about us. And yet if we spent all that money on our own people, just the cost of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, we could literally have free healthcare with zero funding issues.

I know I know socialism, rabble rabble.

But honestly, would you have rather spent a trillion dollars on Americans, or on some countries that honestly hate us?

Either you distrust the government, or you support someone who is talking about reducing the size and scope of government in all affairs.

Now do any of you honestly think Mitt Romney would have reduced the scope of government?






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SPIN2010
12-31-2012, 03:57
Nobody is going to resist. Not when most americans are dependent on .gov

Americans used to roar like lions for liberty, now we bleat like sheep for security.


I wonder "Why" the .gov is taking our weapons?

Answer: Because we are letting them (same as the presidental vote, people have given up on the country yacht, boats adrift, and the captain has never been on a boat).

Good Luck! Write your reps hourly!

Ewalk
12-31-2012, 04:35
I hope you didn't write them like that.


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I Cut Letters Out Of Magazines Then Glued TheM On A Paper, Is That Not The Customary Correspondence etiquette ?

LoL I Used My Phone To Post That And This And This Capital Letter Thing Is Just What It Does, No Idea Why. But Good Job On being My Life Coach.

HexHead
12-31-2012, 04:46
Yea, move away from a place many have lived all their lives and whose families live there.

Easier said than done.



No, easier done than you think.

dango
12-31-2012, 04:52
And what happens when the system collapses and there is no more treasure in the coffers?


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You resort to your roots. The pioneers were self sufficient and it looks like it might be time to rethink things and start over again.
There is a list of corps. that seem to run everything .

Stop giving them your dollars , it's a start !

Do you really think the (NEO-CONS) shop at Walmart , Take the flu shot,eat the same crap we eat or receive the same medical treatment we have to ? Do a little research !

If it's OK for them , then it's OK for us but , It ain't OK for them...........! Yo PW , chime in....! :supergrin:

Fear Night
12-31-2012, 06:13
I think it's time to form the United States of the South.

All you northerners and westerners that are with us need to start making preparations for relocation.

dango
12-31-2012, 06:51
When I stop in some little "po-dunk" cafe for breakfast and the sign says (BALLED EGGS) , change that and I will Ya'll -vs- You all any day ! :supergrin: