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JBowl1
01-12-2013, 17:03
I am thinking about a Glock 10mm. I love the 9mm. I find the .40 recoil kinda sharp and unmanageable for me. Will the same be true (or worse) with the 10mm? Your experiences, please. Thanks.

svtpwnz
01-12-2013, 17:18
My experience is that the recoil on the 10mm is more of a push similar to the 45 acp rather than the snappieness of the 40. I got rid of all my 40 caliber pistols in favor of the 10mm and the price of 40 ammo just isn't worth me having. The 10mm does all that the 40 wish it could and then some. My CCW weapon is the G29sf and I am quite pleased with it.

slappy white
01-12-2013, 17:37
Another thing is there is still plenty of 10mm on the shelfs at all the LGS I have been to, its actually the only thing with the .380.

slappy white
01-12-2013, 17:39
My experience is that the recoil on the 10mm is more of a push similar to the 45 acp rather than the snappieness of the 40. I got rid of all my 40 caliber pistols in favor of the 10mm and the price of 40 ammo just isn't worth me having. The 10mm does all that the 40 wish it could and then some. My CCW weapon is the G29sf and I am quite pleased with it.

Very interesting. How does the 29sf compare size wise to the 23? I love the 40 rd however I have contemplated getting a 10mm and dumping all 9mm.

glock2740
01-12-2013, 17:40
The G29 can be pretty snappy with hot loads, but the G20 shoots great and is more of a push than a snap. Put it this way, my buddy's 8 yo son shoots my G20 and hits cans at 10-15 yards about 9 outta 10 times. Kid LOVES that gun. And always asks me when I come over, if I brought my G20 for him to shoot. You gotta love a kid like that. :cool:

svtpwnz
01-12-2013, 17:52
Very interesting. How does the 29sf compare size wise to the 23? I love the 40 rd however I have contemplated getting a 10mm and dumping all 9mm.

The G29sf and G23 are similar is size with the exception of the slide is wider/thicker and the sf is the shorter framed version. If you have ever held the G30, it is the exact same size as the G29. If you get a G29sf, I highly recommend getting a decent holster for it, as it takes a little getting use to and fells like you are carrying a brick at fist. I have a Galco King Tuck for mine and it makes it pretty cmfortable to carrry.

JabbaNoBother
01-12-2013, 18:17
Just shot the G20 for the first time today, was not as snappy as I was thinking it was going to be. I was hitting steel targets with the same accuracy as my 9mm. Try it out, I don't think you'll be disappointed.

itisbruno
01-12-2013, 18:22
Why do you wanna vaporize your targets.

:headscratch:

svtpwnz
01-12-2013, 18:33
Just shot the G20 for the first time today, was not as snappy as I was thinking it was going to be. I was hitting steel targets with the same accuracy as my 9mm. Try it out, I don't think you'll be disappointed.

Was talking to a member on another forum about converting the G20 to shoot 9x25mm Dillon. It is bad ass to say the least. Nothing like shooting a 9mm round at 2000fps and nearly 850ft lbs of muzzle energy. :wow:

glock2740
01-12-2013, 18:40
Was talking to a member on another forum about converting the G20 to shoot 9x25mm Dillon. It is bad ass to say the least. Nothing like shooting a 9mm round at 2000fps and nearly 850ft lbs of muzzle energy. :wow:
You're not joking. The 9x25 Dillon is a bad mofo! :cool:

slappy white
01-12-2013, 18:48
Thanks, I had a g30 yrs ago and tried to carry it but it was just to big.

Opie 1 Kenopie
01-13-2013, 00:24
The 10mm recoil is overhyped on forums like this. In no way is it too much for anyone but Grandma Puddingstone. What's important to remember is the power being delivered in the bad guy. My 10s have more foot/pounds of energy at 100 yards than a .45 has at the muzzle. Now THAT'S some stopping power that even the 9mm fanboys have to respect. I've mostly stopped carrying my other Glocks in favor of my G29SF and 20SF.

dbcooper
01-13-2013, 06:22
I was looking at the 40sw when I decided on the G20.

If a Corvette and a Chevette were availavble for the same price which one would you buy?


My 14 yr old shot it without a problem, recoil isn't bad at all IMO it's about the same as the 45.

svtpwnz
01-13-2013, 08:10
The 10mm recoil is overhyped on forums like this. In no way is it too much for anyone but Grandma Puddingstone. What's important to remember is the power being delivered in the bad guy. My 10s have more foot/pounds of energy at 100 yards than a .45 has at the muzzle. Now THAT'S some stopping power than even the 9mm fanboys have to respect. I've mostly stopped carrying my other Glocks in favor of my G29SF and 20SF.

Exactly! I use Winchester 175gr silvertips which deliver a muzzle velocity of1290fps and muzzle energy of 649ft lbs. By comparison, the same ammo in 40 S&W delivers a muzzle velocity of 1205fps and muzzle energy of only 500ft lbs.

SDGlock23
01-13-2013, 08:31
That 175gr Silvertip round is exaggerated. It's not doing 1290 from your G20, more like around 1150-1175 at most. The recoil of the 10mm is over hyped for sure, I think part of that is because people think they're getting some monster of a cartridge, when they're getting something that at best, only tops the .40 by 100, maybe 150 fps.

Unless you reload, I probably not get a 10mm. You can go online and buy your ammo, around these parts, 10mm ammo is EXPENSIVE compared to even .45 ACP ammo. If you're wanting something that punches a bigger hole and recoils like a big baby, get a Glock 21. If you want more power, stoke it with .45 Super, it's more potent than the 10mm anyways.

Opie 1 Kenopie
01-13-2013, 12:39
That 175gr Silvertip round is exaggerated. It's not doing 1290 from your G20, more like around 1150-1175 at most. The recoil of the 10mm is over hyped for sure, I think part of that is because people think they're getting some monster of a cartridge, when they're getting something that at best, only tops the .40 by 100, maybe 150 fps.

Unless you reload, I probably not get a 10mm. You can go online and buy your ammo, around these parts, 10mm ammo is EXPENSIVE compared to even .45 ACP ammo. If you're wanting something that punches a bigger hole and recoils like a big baby, get a Glock 21. If you want more power, stoke it with .45 Super, it's more potent than the 10mm anyways.
While that may be true for the Silvertips (I've heard the same things from many sources) good 10mm ammo is much hotter than .40. And I'm not talking about commercial stuff OR homemade. The real niche is places like Underwood Ammo that make hot SD ammo that I can rely in for carry while still being "commercial" enough not to get a guy in trouble for using it on. BG. I agree with your assessment of the G21 though. Plenty of stopping power in a VERY comfortable platform with easy-to-find ammo available EVERYWHERE. To each their own. I load my own range ammo in 10mm and carry 165gr. Speer Gold Dots from Underwood for CCW. Using figures from other guys, I estimate I'm getting well over 700+ ft/lbs of energy. Now THAT'S serious Bad Guy Repellent.

Backroad Rider
01-13-2013, 21:07
When the Glock 20 10mm was first introduced the FBI nearly adopted it as the issue handgun but decided not to because some agents (mostly women) found the grip too big and the recoil was had to control for many agents/situations. The .40 caliber round was developed to address these concerns and has been a great success.

That said, the 10mm has its place, primarily for hunting but also where you need more distance or penetration. Unfortunately, Glock does not make a long barrel version but others make excellent long barrels, such as the KM 6 inch. Now that the .357 mag. is available in Glocks, it is hard to decide between the .357 and the 10mm.

For those who do choose a 6" barrel, the US military holster for the Barretta fits the Glock 20 after the bottom stitching is cut and the metal loop removed. The 6" barrel will not protrude beyond the holster.

SDGlock23
01-14-2013, 08:23
While that may be true for the Silvertips (I've heard the same things from many sources) good 10mm ammo is much hotter than .40. And I'm not talking about commercial stuff OR homemade. The real niche is places like Underwood Ammo that make hot SD ammo that I can rely in for carry while still being "commercial" enough not to get a guy in trouble for using it on. BG. I agree with your assessment of the G21 though. Plenty of stopping power in a VERY comfortable platform with easy-to-find ammo available EVERYWHERE. To each their own. I load my own range ammo in 10mm and carry 165gr. Speer Gold Dots from Underwood for CCW. Using figures from other guys, I estimate I'm getting well over 700+ ft/lbs of energy. Now THAT'S serious Bad Guy Repellent.

I can't argue the 10mm has more velocity than the .40 in general, to what degree I'm sure we disagree on. I do load my own and at times forget that most do not, but Underwoods is a good choice for those who don't.

You can shoot a 165gr Gold Dot @ 1400 fps from a G20, and I can load a 165gr Gold Dot to 1400 fps from a G35 size .40. Through my years of reloading I've found the 10mm only tops the .40 by around 100 fps, and up to 150 fps with the heavies. Faster yes, "much hotter", not really. Worth the difference? To me it's not, but it's like anything else, it's pure personal opinion.

SDGlock23
01-14-2013, 08:36
That said, the 10mm has its place, primarily for hunting but also where you need more distance or penetration. Unfortunately, Glock does not make a long barrel version but others make excellent long barrels, such as the KM 6 inch. Now that the .357 mag. is available in Glocks, it is hard to decide between the .357 and the 10mm.

Glock doesn't offer a .357 Magnum, they offer a 357 Sig, a bottlenecked .40 shooting 9mm bullets. I would offer that you won't see much, if any, extra penetration using the 10mm (with JHP's) compared to something like the .40. Main reason is most .400" JHP bullets are designed for typical .40 velocity.

Pushing faster doesn't always increase penetration, it can often have the opposite effect and limit penetration. As for the 10mm adding distance, most folks aren't going to take a shot at a deer (or any game) beyond 50-75 yds, it's more of a platform limitation than anything else. Within those ranges, I don't see the 10mm offering anything noticeably different than the .40 or .45, all will kill deer sized game with ease with proper placement.

intenseneal
01-14-2013, 08:40
I own a G23 and I personally dont feel that the .40sw is snappy. Yeah is has a recoil but I can rapid fire it and stay on target at 50ft. But that is just me but my wife, father in law and mother in law dont like the recoil of the G23. But it is all personal preference.