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ThinkMud
01-13-2013, 13:24
Ok, so I picked up a bi-tone XDs .45 yesterday, shot about 120 rounds through it, and love it. I was shooting ok groups when I was really concentrating on it, but some of my shots were going way off, even when I felt like I was dead on. None of my Glocks do that, they may have one or two flyers during a range session at close yards (5-7 yards), but never a one or two per 5 rounds! It's almost like sometimes my XDs just wants to shoot where it wanted to, haha... but it could just be i need more practice with it. Maybe I just didn't notice how off or how much I jerked the trigger or something? I'm also using the thumbs forward grip after a few years of a "thumbs crossed" type of grip haha, so all my groups are less than desired still (on any gun).

Here is a shot of one group of 5 at about 5 to 7 yards:
http://thinkmud.com/img/xdstarget1.jpg
and the same target after about 50-60 rounds:
http://thinkmud.com/img/xdstarget2.jpg
I have WAY more off the black than I would want:(

That being said, I noticed when cleaning today that my barrel has slide marks all over it, and not in a uniformed "Glock" style way. (if that makes sense). All my glocks get a uniformed "smiley face" looking mark on the barrels. The XDs' barrel looks like it was getting chewed on by the slide!

here are some pics of the barrel after only 120 rounds:
http://thinkmud.com/img/xdsbarrel1.JPG

http://thinkmud.com/img/xdsbarrel2.JPG

EDIT: I guess you can't see in the pics, but these marks are on both the top and the bottom of the barrel.

Is this normal? I have seen a few videos of the all black XDs and even after hundreds of rounds, I couldn't notice as many barrel marks as mine.

hogship
01-13-2013, 13:43
I have an XD45, not the XDs.......Internally, I think they are the same.

Just went to check on mine, and I'm not sure how many rounds has been through it since new.......somewhere over 500, I'd guess. I don't shoot it all that much.

Anyway, there is a distinct half moon rubbing pattern on the top of the barrel close to the muzzle......nothing like yours.

All those arbitrary marks on your barrel makes me think something is really different about yours.........

ooc

ThinkMud
01-13-2013, 13:50
Yeah I don't think I've ever had any gun that the barrel had sporadic marks all over it like this.

g29onboard
01-13-2013, 14:07
Something is off here I would think. That barrel would give me grief as well.

ThinkMud
01-13-2013, 14:21
Here are a few shots of the slide:

http://thinkmud.com/img/xdsslide1.JPG
http://thinkmud.com/img/xdsslide2.JPG
http://thinkmud.com/img/xdsslide3.JPG

last pic shows the bottom of the barrel and the recoil spring (which is getting pretty chewed up at the part that contacts the barrel lug)

gocubs6
01-13-2013, 14:37
Send the pics to SA. They have top notch customer service and will let you know if it isn't normal.

markerbeacon
01-13-2013, 14:58
Ok, so I picked up a bi-tone XDs .45 yesterday, shot about 120 rounds through it, and love it. I was shooting ok groups when I was really concentrating on it, but some of my shots were going way off, even when I felt like I was dead on. None of my Glocks do that, they may have one or two flyers during a range session at close yards (5-7 yards), but never a one or two per 5 rounds! It's almost like sometimes my XDs just wants to shoot where it wanted to, haha... but it could just be i need more practice with it. Maybe I just didn't notice how off or how much I jerked the trigger or something? I'm also using the thumbs forward grip after a few years of a "thumbs crossed" type of grip haha, so all my groups are less than desired still (on any gun).

Here is a shot of one group of 5 at about 5 to 7 yards:
http://thinkmud.com/img/xdstarget1.jpg
and the same target after about 50-60 rounds:
http://thinkmud.com/img/xdstarget2.jpg
I have WAY more off the black than I would want:(

That being said, I noticed when cleaning today that my barrel has slide marks all over it, and not in a uniformed "Glock" style way. (if that makes sense). All my glocks get a uniformed "smiley face" looking mark on the barrels. The XDs' barrel looks like it was getting chewed on by the slide!

here are some pics of the barrel after only 120 rounds:
http://thinkmud.com/img/xdsbarrel1.JPG

http://thinkmud.com/img/xdsbarrel2.JPG

EDIT: I guess you can't see in the pics, but these marks are on both the top and the bottom of the barrel.

Is this normal? I have seen a few videos of the all black XDs and even after hundreds of rounds, I couldn't notice as many barrel marks as mine.

Just looked at mine. Nothing like yours and I have about the same number of round fired as you do.Customer Service - time for a chat.

Beretta92guy
01-13-2013, 15:01
time to call springfield...that barrel does not look right...none of my SA XD's look like that

ThinkMud
01-13-2013, 15:03
I posted over on the XD site and most o them say it isn't normal either. I'll email the pics to SA.

RGbiker
01-13-2013, 15:28
I have a XDs. FIRST move I made after bringing it home from LGS, strip handgun, clean all sliding contact areas with alcohol, then lightly lube frame/barrel/slide contact areas with Slide Glide or TW25b SYNTHETIC GREASE.

OP's XDs appears to be lacking a good lube.

ThinkMud
01-13-2013, 15:30
I oiled it way more than i do my Glocks! it was very oiled before the range trip. I read about them needing lots of oil before running them.

countrygun
01-13-2013, 15:35
I posted a more detailed answer on XDTalk, but basically I think it is like the difference I have seen in the wear on a 3" vs 5" 1911. The unlocking geometry is different with a shorter barrel so the friction points are different.

RGbiker
01-13-2013, 15:38
I oiled it way more than i do my Glocks! it was very oiled before the range trip. I read about them needing lots of oil before running them.

Synthetic oil is OK, but synthetic grease is much better as it will stay in place. I use Slide Glide or TW25b or a quality synthetic bicycle grease on my Glocks, SIG's, SA XDs, RIA, DDR Makarov, Steyr GB, Colt New Agent and on my long guns.

As mentioned above, try grease.

Hawker Man
01-13-2013, 16:00
Looks like you need to run another 500 rounds through it. I'll bet there is nothing wrong. Feed it and let it eat!!!!!

ThinkMud
01-13-2013, 16:12
I posted a more detailed answer on XDTalk, but basically I think it is like the difference I have seen in the wear on a 3" vs 5" 1911. The unlocking geometry is different with a shorter barrel so the friction points are different.

Haha cool I saw your post. Makes sense to me, but looks like it may be a bi-tone vs all black issue. Can't confirm yet but so far only the bi-tones have this issue. I'd rather have the all black, but this was all my LGS had.

ThinkMud
01-13-2013, 16:13
Synthetic oil is OK, but synthetic grease is much better as it will stay in place. I use Slide Glide or TW25b or a quality synthetic bicycle grease on my Glocks, SIG's, SA XDs, RIA, DDR Makarov, Steyr GB, Colt New Agent and on my long guns.

As mentioned above, try grease.

I've been hearing this a lot lately. I've always used CLP since that's all we used in the Corps. Couldn't hurt to try some grease!

ThinkMud
01-13-2013, 16:14
Looks like you need to run another 500 rounds through it. I'll bet there is nothing wrong. Feed it and let it eat!!!!!

I have a bunch of +p on the way, thinking I should use that to help with any break-in:) I still love this gun.

Grant440
01-13-2013, 16:26
Have you heard back from SA? My brother in law just purchased an XDS and we took it to the range and we were not getting any groups compared to yours! With my Glock .45 G21 it's dead on.
So thanks for posting your groups and good luck with SA

hogship
01-13-2013, 16:27
I have a bunch of +p on the way, thinking I should use that to help with any break-in:) I still love this gun.

Thanks for your service to our country, ThinkMud......:supergrin:

Could it be that the bluing is being rubbed off some machining marks from manufacture of the barrel? This could make it appear as dings, but only rub marks. It also could be that your stainless slide might make the wear more pronounced......just making a guess, as the hardness level of the stainless might be less than the steel used for making the barrel.

ooc

ThinkMud
01-13-2013, 18:01
Thanks for your service to our country, ThinkMud......:supergrin:

Could it be that the bluing is being rubbed off some machining marks from manufacture of the barrel? This could make it appear as dings, but only rub marks. It also could be that your stainless slide might make the wear more pronounced......just making a guess, as the hardness level of the stainless might be less than the steel used for making the barrel.

ooc

Thanks for your service as well! I was looking at your pics from NAM man, I could only imagine what that was like!

i don't think my marks on the barrel are dings, they still feel smooth. So maybe it is something to do with the stainless rubbing off the finish more than the melonite from the black slides. That could make sense. I'd rather it be that, then something todo with the finish being too thick on the stainless or something.

itisbruno
01-13-2013, 23:42
I just checked mine out and it looks nothing like yours with a similar round count.

You dhoot it better than I do, I'm still consistantly low left until I "adjust" to the trigger.

Andy W
01-18-2013, 19:14
Did you ever call Springfield?