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r1013
01-15-2013, 12:30
Me and my wife were carrying a G19 and G26. I bought us each an XDS for Christmas as those two were just to thick for my tall skinny build. The XDS's is working out perfect!!!

We also each have G19's which we use mostly at the range for fun and for classes.

I am wanting something to keep at the bedside in 45 or 10mm. I started thinking about the G21 gen4. I was set on that until I read where a lot of people like the G30 better. The size seems really close to a 19. The 19 feels like it was made to fit my hand perfect!

Then I got to thinking about my other interest. I like to hike a lot and be in the woods where a 10mm would come in handy.

So I want a pistol to keep at the bedside yet be used for protection in the woods.

The 29 sounds perfect. The only negative is its more expensive to shoot so I would want a 45 conversion. Or should I get a G30 and a 10mm conversion?

Or should I stick with the G30 period??

Any suggestions?

wct097
01-15-2013, 12:41
Where are you finding a 10mm-45 conversion? While the G29 and G30 are similar in size, I cannot see a .45 case working in a 10mm slide. I'd also be surprised if there is a .45-10mm conversion.

Maybe you're thinking about a 400 Corbon conversion for a 45ACP-400Corbon?

GRT45
01-15-2013, 13:18
Take a look at the information at the link in my signature line below. We selected the G30 as the base pistol for CCW and home defense with mag capacity ranging from 9 to 30 rounds if desired. A 45-10mm conversion and a 45-.460 Rowland conversion for woods protection is the route we chose. The .460 Rowland conversion for a G30 is very impressive power in a small package and mag capacity to 30 rnds is available. Loading .45 Super ammo in the G30 is another option to consider for woods protection with a stronger recoil spring for best results.

To convert the G29 to 45ACP requires a full upper swap of slide and barrel plus a 45ACP mag. The conversion of the G30 to 10mm requires a barrel swap and 10mm mag. There is much more information about the G30 conversion options in the link below.

The G29 can be easily converted to shoot .40S&W with a barrel swap for better economy. Others have reported successfully using the 10mm-40S&W conversion barrel in the G30 as well. There are many options to consider.

chemboy
01-15-2013, 13:41
If you are going to use it as protection from 4-legged critters, I would go the 10mm(G29 or G30 w/conv. bbl.)
I pack a 29 with Underwood XTPs or Flat Points whenever I am outdoors(which is often). Moose and mountain lions seem to like my spots!
:eek:

cscsguy1
01-15-2013, 14:00
Love the G30! Fits my hands shoots awesome! A little pricy to stock ammo tho

Scrappy
01-15-2013, 14:10
I love my G30. Its good for carry but just a bedside gun, maybe a G21 would be better?
Not much 10mm around here.

glock2740
01-15-2013, 15:18
If it's a woods gun/night stand gun, I'd go G20. That's my woods gun. I recently bought a Surefire X300 for a Sig Tac Ops railed 1911, and tried it out on my G20. Not a bad bedside gun IMO. :cool:

http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac341/OU1911/HDG20.jpg

I have a G29 and a G30 too. Nice CC guns, but I prefer more rounds in the woods, especially since I carry OWB in the woods.

SDGlock23
01-16-2013, 07:50
I would opt for a G21 or G30 .45 ACP. Ask yourself what you're likely to run into in the woods that a .45 won't stop that a 10mm will, and you'll find there is no such animal. .45 is cheaper and more widely available, and if you want more power, stoke it with .45 Super, it's the same dimensions as a .45 ACP, just higher pressure (more powerful).

Inebriated
01-16-2013, 08:38
First, I'd say you may want to look at the 21 vs. 20... no reason to get a smaller gun, if you aren't carrying it. The increased size (weight) will aid in recoil management, as well as give you higher capacity. Now... between the 21 and 20, you can't go wrong with either. You can fire .40 S&W and .357 Sig out of the 20 for more common ammo than 10mm, as well as 9x25...

The 21 can fire .45 ACP, .40 Super, .45 Super, and .400 Corbon...

All of those are more than enough for a woods cartridge. Get the one you think will provide you the most practical cartridge for practice, self-defense, and wood use.

For me, the 21 is perfect. Fits my hand like a glove, .45 ACP is my preferred SD round, and with an extended barrel in .45 Super, and some 255grn hard cast loads, you get a hell of a woods cartridge.

r1013
01-16-2013, 10:50
GRT45- I read your review on the G30 before I first posted. You did an excellent job!! Before that I was leaning towards a G21 and even starting to scan for any in stock deals. After reading your post you sold me on the G30. I searched this forum and a few others and the majority of post pretty much said the same thing you did about the G30. After reading about how the G30 could easily swap to a 10mm I assumed it was the same for the G21 and 45.

It looks like the G30 Gen4 will be my next buy. Thank you so much for the responses.

TFLWYO
01-16-2013, 11:42
If I want more power in my 30SF for walking in the woods, I just load it with Buffalo Bore 255 gr. .45 +P HCFN. My chronograph shows 923 fps MV out of the factory barrel. P.S. There are no grizzlies in my woods.

oldman11
01-16-2013, 12:27
Where are you finding a 10mm-45 conversion? While the G29 and G30 are similar in size, I cannot see a .45 case working in a 10mm slide. I'd also be surprised if there is a .45-10mm conversion.

Maybe you're thinking about a 400 Corbon conversion for a 45ACP-400Corbon?
KKM makes a 45 to 10mm conversion barrel that works quite well. Shooting this is what convinced me to buy a G29 to go with my G30, so I don't need the conversion barrel anymore. You'll need to get a 10mm mag and you're set to go.

GRT45
01-16-2013, 13:10
I also use a KKM 45-10mm conversion barrel and a .45 extractor that I modified per KKM instructions to convert one of our G30SF pistols to 10mm. The operation has been 100% reliable. I have no qualms about carrying the converted pistol. The modified extractor works for 10mm and 45ACP ammo.

However, be aware that KKM has removed the 45-10mm conversion barrel for the G21 and G30 for now from their product offerings, but it will be offered again in the future. They plan to offer a kit in the future that will include the 45-10mm conversion barrel and a modified .45 extractor for best results.

KKM is currently in the process of a major upgrade of their CNC machinery at the Carson City, NV facility. I was told to check back in two months concerning introduction of the Glock 45-10mm conversion kit.

StormLake (http://www.storm-lake.com/products/barrel/builder/GL) currently offers a 45-10mm conversion barrel for the G30 (3.78" standard and 4.48" extended length). I don't have any personal experience with the StormLake conversion barrel, but StormLake's reputation is excellent for quality barrels in general. IGB Austria (http://www.igb-barrels.com/) makes 45-10mm conversion barrels up to 6.02 inches long for the G30 that are available for import to the USA, but I have no idea about the quality of their products.

r1013
01-20-2013, 12:49
Ive been watching videos on YT from the Shot Show and I see they have a 30S coming out. It appears to be a frame from a Gen3 30SF and slide from a 36. I shot a 36 once and liked it quite a bit. I didn't like that there was no rail and it wouldn't accept other Glock mags.

Any opinions on the 30S vs the 30 Gen4?

I guess if considering the 30S I should wait for a Gen 4.

Slug71
01-20-2013, 13:26
Why not just use your G19 as a bedside gun? Most quiet and low flash caliber available in a Glock. Perfect for HD.
Remember that if the need for use ever arises, which hopefully it won't, you'll be using it in a close quarter environment. This makes the shots MUCH louder. You won't be wearing plugs and likely to have just woken up too. Low flash is also a big pro when it comes to shooting in the dark. Theses things could be a life or death distraction. You also don't want bullets hitting a family member in the next room.

Just something to think about.

ironmike86
01-20-2013, 16:36
IMO you have the Xds I would get the Glock 21 =45. Keeping calibers limited.. But you want it for hiking a 10mm would work better but you only need to worry about bears. If there's no bears 45 acp would be plenty imo. Doesn't really matter buy one o each if you have the cash?? Never can have to many :)

GRT45
01-20-2013, 16:45
Any opinions on the 30S vs the 30 Gen4?

The G30S is excellent for strictly 45ACP (std. pressure loads) and CCW in urban carry, especially with an optional 9-rnd flush fit mag. It's formidable for home defense with a 13 rnd mag (17 rnd and 30 rnd are options too). Others are reporting that the G30S has slightly more recoil and muzzle flip than the Gen3 G30/G30SF or G30 Gen4. That is to be expected with the lighter slide. It's noticeable, but still comfortable to shoot.

Go with the Gen4 G30 if you have any future plans to shoot 45 Super ammo or convert the pistol to 10mm or .460 Rowland for woods protection. The G30SF with the heavier slide that I converted to 10mm is all I want to handle with hot 10mm ammo. I have no desire to try it with the light G30S, especially since the G30S doesn't have the ergonomic advantages of the upgraded Gen4 frame. The G30S is not viable for a .460 Rowland conversion, don't even think about it.

We put two G30 Gen4 pistols on order to upgrade from the G30SF pistols in our household.