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Castello Dunhill
01-17-2013, 18:06
I just picked up my Purchase Permit from my local Police Department, and I'm all set to buy my first handgun!

Now, the tough part is deciding on a Glock 19 or 23. For personal reasons, I will only be able to have one gun at this time, so I want to make the right choice.

My initial thoughts are leaning towards a 23 with a Lonewolf 40-9mm conversion barrel. Seems like it would be the best of both worlds.

I will be getting my conceal and carry permit next month, and plan to carry it daily after that.

flw
01-17-2013, 18:12
I just picked up my Purchase Permit from my local Police Department, and I'm all set to buy my first handgun!

Now, the tough part is deciding on a Glock 19 or 23. For personal reasons, I will only be able to have one gun at this time, so I want to make the right choice.

My initial thoughts are leaning towards a 23 with a Lonewolf 40-9mm conversion barrel. Seems like it would be the best of both worlds.

I will be getting my conceal and carry permit next month, and plan to carry it daily after that.

Using a conversion barrel (I did the same thing) keeps practice costs down, as 9mm is always less than shooting 40.

You will still need to practice with 40 cal but most of that can be done in 9mm, Now using a conversion barrel does not make your g23 a g19. Why? the ejector and extractor are not positioned exactly the same so reliability is not the same.

If you go with the G23 and conversion barrel, use it only for 9mm cheap practice. Only carry what your gun was designed to reliably use.

If you are concerned about the 40 being a bit too much than stick with the 9mm. Its rounds on target that matter not the size of the hole you didn't make with a larger caliber.

Slackinoff
01-17-2013, 18:16
Get the 9mm and shoot the hell out of it. I was spending too much on the .40s&w so I switched to 9mm. Shot placement is more important than caliber choice.

Dooger
01-17-2013, 18:31
Just get the 19......IF you can find one. Good Luck, it's a tough market right now. May as well place an order at this point.

danattherock
01-17-2013, 18:43
I prefer the 40 S&W myself. If cost of ammo is a big deal, get a Dillon 550B and make your own. Just bought a Glock 23 today. A gen 4, it came with three mags. Threw on a Hogue slip on as I put them on all my glocks. Also mounted my Streamlight TLR-1 light. Very nice gun.

As for buying another barrel, my vote is for a KKM stainless replacement for the stock in 40 S&W. Got one for my G20 (10 mm) and it was amazing to me how much more accurate the gun was. A better barrel than the Lone Wolf in my opinion and it was a true drop in barrel. Some require fitting.

Also, if doing a 40 to 9 barrel conversion, you may have issues with the 9mm cycling the gun. I heard the gen 4's have stronger springs, if this is true, more so of a possible issue. Then there is the magazine fitment issue, I am not certain, but you may need to buy mags for the 9mm rounds to run in the conversion barrel. Don't know much about it, but some things for you to look into.

I personally favor the 40 S&W over a 9mm for many reasons. The only thing I would change about the Glock 23 is dropping a high quality KKM barrel in it. Then perhaps reload affordable 40 S&W rounds to go in it. 25 cent trigger job perhaps. Depending on what your intended use is.


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thesilverbullet
01-17-2013, 18:52
if u plan on spending alot of time at the range - i'd recommend the 19. if not, get what ever u prefer because u want be buying alot of ammo. i would recommend a 30 or 30s for carry.

John_NJ
01-17-2013, 19:00
Get the 9mm and shoot the hell out of it. I was spending too much on the .40s&w so I switched to 9mm. Shot placement is more important than caliber choice.

I was going to write something similar and I agree. I have both 9mm and .40 but gravitate towards packing up the 9mm when going to the range. I usually find 9mm is $3/box cheaper than .40 for practice ammo. It starts to add up quickly!

Go with the 9mm. That was my first firearm as well. You will not regret it.

AR15 guy
01-17-2013, 19:09
I own both and recommend the 19 hands down. It is easier to shoot quickly, it's accurate, and it's a freaking glock 19.

soflasmg
01-17-2013, 19:13
Try both and see which one you shoot best.

I prefer the 19 for the following reasons.

1) Ubiquitousness of 9mm
2) Faster follow up shots
3) Rounds like Winchester 127 grain ranger plus p plus make it an effective round
4) High mag capacity
5) less wear and tear on pistol than .40

Scrappy
01-17-2013, 19:35
Having to get a permit to purchase and conceal carry, those 2words don't go together. In any state ive heard of that makes you get a permit to buy a handgun those states dont allow carry. Unless something has changed?
As far as the others saying to shoot 9 mm and carry 40, Im one for carrying what you practice with and are proficient with!!!!
With that said get the 9mm.

up1911fan
01-17-2013, 19:35
I favor the G19 for most of my handgun need's.

tonyparson
01-17-2013, 19:38
I'd get the G23. You can get a 9mm conversion barrel and you can get a .357 Sig barrel and shoot 3 calibers out of one gun.

Castello Dunhill
01-17-2013, 20:30
Yes, in my State you either have to have a permit to purchase, or a Conceal and Carry permit that also doubles as a permit to purchase. I chose to get the Permit to Purchase so that I can buy a gun for my Conceal and Carry class that I'm taking next month.


19 or 23 is still a tough call, there are definitely pros and cons to both. But if you could honestly only have one, which would it be?

Deadduck
01-17-2013, 20:41
I own both, but if I could keep just one it would probably be the 19. It is easier to shoot and control in my opinion, and holds 15 rounds.
If you're a new shooter, 9 mm will be easier to learn to shoot well.

bac1023
01-17-2013, 20:41
I much prefer the G19.

todd_g
01-17-2013, 21:27
I say go for the 23, I have a 27 and 23, the 40-9 conversion barrel I bought is for the 23 stock length, I us the barrel in both pistols, I do have a bunch of G19 mags but my G23 and G27 mags load and cycle 9mms just fine. I have never had an issue firing 9mm's. Besides right now there seems to be a bit of 9mm hoarding going on, I always see stacks of 40s&w.

HauntedAlabama
01-17-2013, 22:01
I would go 19 between the two.

Giggity-Giggity
01-17-2013, 22:09
Glock 19!

cooldawg69
01-17-2013, 22:18
Can't go wrong w/ Glock 19

flw
01-17-2013, 22:28
I just bought some range ammo for my g23. 180 gr FHJ cost 16.99 box of 50.

Much cheaper to get a 9mm and spend more time/money on training. Less on ammo.

SJ 40
01-17-2013, 22:37
I just bought some range ammo for my g23. 180 gr FHJ cost 16.99 box of 50.

Much cheaper to get a 9mm and spend more time/money on training. Less on ammo.Although at the moment 9 mm is kind of sparse where as 40 still has good availability at least in my area.
If the O P doesn't have much hand gun shooting experience he may want to go with the G 19 even with the ammunition scarcity. SJ 40

Folsom_Prison
01-17-2013, 22:38
Get the 19! I've owned a 23 and didn't care for the recoil, shooting the 19 made me a better shooter!

TexasPOff
01-17-2013, 22:41
Shot placement far out weighs caliber. There is not much modern 40 ammo will do that modern 9mm won't. That being said, I have owned several 23's and 19's, and will take either one. If your not in a hurry, go with the 19, you will probably have to order one. I think long term you will enjoy it more. If your in a hurry, there should still be quite a few 23s around. That in itself shows the popularity of the 19. TXPO

travisstorma
01-17-2013, 22:46
I prefer the 40 S&W myself. If cost of ammo is a big deal, get a Dillon 550B and make your own. Just bought a Glock 23 today. A gen 4, it came with three mags. Threw on a Hogue slip on as I put them on all my glocks. Also mounted my Streamlight TLR-1 light. Very nice gun.

As for buying another barrel, my vote is for a KKM stainless replacement for the stock in 40 S&W. Got one for my G20 (10 mm) and it was amazing to me how much more accurate the gun was. A better barrel than the Lone Wolf in my opinion and it was a true drop in barrel. Some require fitting.

Also, if doing a 40 to 9 barrel conversion, you may have issues with the 9mm cycling the gun. I heard the gen 4's have stronger springs, if this is true, more so of a possible issue. Then there is the magazine fitment issue, I am not certain, but you may need to buy mags for the 9mm rounds to run in the conversion barrel. Don't know much about it, but some things for you to look into.

I personally favor the 40 S&W over a 9mm for many reasons. The only thing I would change about the Glock 23 is dropping a high quality KKM barrel in it. Then perhaps reload affordable 40 S&W rounds to go in it. 25 cent trigger job perhaps. Depending on what your intended use is.


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I really wish my Gen 2 g23 had a rail!


More on topic. I LOVE my 23. I shot my friends g17 and it was pretty much the same to me.

Wake_jumper
01-17-2013, 22:55
Get the G19. I have a G23 with the LW barrel. I should have just bought a G19. The conversion is not reliable enough to use for anything other than range plinking. I hate the recoil from .40 cal. Spend the $$ you would have spent on a barrel and mags on night sights.

rilkil23
01-17-2013, 22:59
Love my Gen3 G19c and my Gen4 G23 is also a fine pistol. I'd go 9mm if I only had one, there are a lot of good posts for both sides but I like the cost factor of shooting 9mm over the 40. Enjoy


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Buckshot Barry
01-17-2013, 23:01
FWIW, my 3 local Walmarts ran out of 9mm ammo before they ran out of .40

LASTRESORT20
01-17-2013, 23:07
* g19 *

Wake_jumper
01-17-2013, 23:07
Wallymart isn't the only source for ammo... and I understand they will not be selling anything but shotgun ammo from now on.

Cabelas has lots of 9mm (and .40) ammo in stock at the KC,KS store. Not a single round of 5.56/.223 though. They have a 10 box limit.

ViennaGambit
01-17-2013, 23:11
coke or pepsi?

chevy or ford?

blonde or brunette?

missionary or doggie?

:D :D :D

OneAverageWhiteGuy
01-17-2013, 23:31
coke
chevy
brunette
doggie

Oh yeah, and G19!

Recalcitrant
01-17-2013, 23:38
pepsi
chevy
brunette
doggie

Oh yeah, and G19!

Fixed it for ya!

orion814me
01-18-2013, 00:20
coke or pepsi?

chevy or ford?

blonde or brunette?

missionary or doggie?

:D :D :D

Pepsi
neither
either
both

"Cold Dead Hands" !
01-18-2013, 02:07
G19 !
Best all around caliber & gun.


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Armedleprechaun
01-18-2013, 03:26
Glock 19.

NITE SITE 53
01-18-2013, 05:22
Glock 19 You wont regret it.

OhioGlock90
01-18-2013, 05:39
Have you shot both? Which one are you more comfortable with? If you buy a G23 but are not comfortable shooting the .40 round than its not worth any thing. If you are comfortable shooting both then get the G23


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OdinIII
01-18-2013, 05:43
As you can tell there are plenty of people on both sides. I also have both a G23 and a G19.

If you look at it objectively then the only con to the G19 is slightly less bullet performance in a self defense shooting. I carry a .40 but I feel the 9mm is a better choice for most people, probably even myself.

carbuncle
01-18-2013, 06:06
I'm a gen 3 G23 guy, myself, but you can't go wrong with either.

1canvas
01-18-2013, 06:08
19 or 23 is still a tough call, there are definitely pros and cons to both. But if you could honestly only have one, which would it be?[/QUOTE]

for me I went with the 23. many concider the 9mm as the minimum caliber for SD. if I have to defend my self against an armed attacker I want something a little more than the minimum. the 9mm makes a good range gun cause most target ammo is low powered so most can shoot it better. when you get to serious 9mm SD ammo in the +P the recoil difference between the 9mm and .40 is minimal.
the fact is that although some law enforcement agencies still use 9mm most don't.

RUT
01-18-2013, 07:11
>> 19 or 23 ? <<

YES!!

T-Rod45
01-18-2013, 07:28
23

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Nuff said.

AR15 guy
01-18-2013, 07:39
19 or 23 is still a tough call, there are definitely pros and cons to both. But if you could honestly only have one, which would it be?

for me I went with the 23. many concider the 9mm as the minimum caliber for SD. if I have to defend my self against an armed attacker I want something a little more than the minimum. the 9mm makes a good range gun cause most target ammo is low powered so most can shoot it better. when you get to serious 9mm SD ammo in the +P the recoil difference between the 9mm and .40 is minimal.
the fact is that although some law enforcement agencies still use 9mm most don't.[/QUOTE]

I still find +p 9mm to be easier to control than even Fmj 40. I much prefer the 9mm glocks to the 23. YMMV

230512

wacopolumbo
01-18-2013, 09:13
My vote would be for the 19. At one time I had two over every 9mm and 40 Glock. I enjoyed the 40 the least and now I have no 40 Glocks and still have several 9mm Glocks (3 x 17s and 2 x 26s). Both are easy shooters, Both are the same size, it just comes down to preference. With current JHPs, they both provide good terminal performance for a handgun. I can shoot the 19 faster and more accurately than the 23, but not by much.

If I hadn't been bit by the GAP bug, I would carry a 26 everyday instead of a 39.

Good luck. Either way you go, you will be well served.

AR15 guy
01-18-2013, 11:18
After watching a cow get shot in the head twice by a 9mm...

Maybe a 23 is the way to go.

rilkil23
01-18-2013, 11:25
After watching a cow get shot in the head twice by a 9mm...

Maybe a 23 is the way to go.

You referring to the movie "Me Myself and Irene"?


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T-Rod45
01-18-2013, 11:26
In my humble opinion, if you aren't buying the gun to carry, then a 19 is kind of pointless to have, other than "just cuz". :dunno:

AR15 guy
01-18-2013, 11:39
You referring to the movie "Me Myself and Irene"?


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Nope, I watched a buddy shoot a cow twice in the head at 6 inches with a 92fs. It literally crated the cows skull, but didn't penetrate. The cow had been hit by a car, and was all messed up.

chemboy
01-18-2013, 11:46
19- If you can find one.

That being said, the 23 is a sweet weapon.

MCunningham
01-18-2013, 15:40
Nope, I watched a buddy shoot a cow twice in the head at 6 inches with a 92fs. It literally crated the cows skull, but didn't penetrate. The cow had been hit by a car, and was all messed up.

Good thing people don't usually have to protect themselves from cows.

Castello Dunhill
01-18-2013, 16:09
This is such a tough call. My local shop has both the 19 and 23. I'm having a hard time trying to decide.

Scrappy
01-18-2013, 16:22
This is such a tough call. My local shop has both the 19 and 23. I'm having a hard time trying to decide.

I went to range this morning. I shot the G23 gen 4 against the MP 40. The MP 40 was smooth and more accurate for me. The G23 has a lot of snap. I also shot my G19 and G30 while I was there.
The G19 with +p ammo has some snap too, but not as much as the G23.
With that said I put a deposit on a new MP40! It was also $90 cheaper then the G23.
You could go with the G23 and buy a 9mm barrel and mags as some have said.
Also stopped at local Wally world. No 9mm or 45 ammo. Only 40 ammo left.
I will add this. I have owned lots of Glocks in 40 cal too, great guns just not for me in the 40 cal version. I own 9mm and 45 cal Glocks which I feel are the best from Glock! That's my opinion

SVTNate
01-18-2013, 16:24
After watching a cow get shot in the head twice by a 9mm...

Maybe a 23 is the way to go.

If you're worried about being attacked by groups of rogue cows, this is probably sound advice!

I had a G23. Shot it once, sold it shortly thereafter.

I currently have four G19's.

PVolk
01-18-2013, 16:24
You honestly cant go wrong with either. The 19 and 23 of two of my all-time favorite Glock models.

danysw
01-18-2013, 16:32
I've owned both, now I only have the G19.

packinaglock
01-18-2013, 17:22
After watching a cow get shot in the head twice by a 9mm...

Maybe a 23 is the way to go.

A G32 should have worked well. :supergrin:

Pier23
01-18-2013, 17:49
Minor point, but we seem to have forgotten the new Glock 19s are throwing brass in people's faces, an issue not reported with the 23s.

I have both a 23 and 19, but my 19 is a pre-brass- thrower.

AR15 guy
01-18-2013, 20:55
My g19 is a pre-brass thrower also, but my BTF era 17 is fine.

rolltide_pisco
01-18-2013, 21:03
I love my G19 Gen4. Conversion barrel is the way to go. I almost put a G23 on layaway today but chose to go for more concealment and got a baby glock G27 Gen4.

Glock19Cowner
01-18-2013, 21:37
Wallymart isn't the only source for ammo... and I understand they will not be selling anything but shotgun ammo from now on.

Cabelas has lots of 9mm (and .40) ammo in stock at the KC,KS store. Not a single round of 5.56/.223 though. They have a 10 box limit.

Went there this morning lookIng for some 9mm and 45 and about all they had was herters 9mm and lots of zombie max for the 45. Lots of .380 and 10mm though. Oh and the .223 is usually gone with in the first 15-20 mins of them opening at least thats what the clerk said.

Long story short cant really go wrong with the 19 or the 23. My 19C sees a lot more range/carry time than the ol' 23 ever did. Just much nicer on the wallet on range days.

AR15 guy
01-18-2013, 21:49
The 19 is nicer on the wallet, hands, and wrists.

The ammo issue isn't really an issue for me. I keep lots around to avoid having to rush out to find ammo.

LarryNC
01-19-2013, 00:27
I have no idea if you have already made your purchase. I would suggest that you watch this video. Good luck and whatever you choose you really cannot go wrong with either of these pistols. Here is the link to the video.

P.S. I didn't think that it would embed the actual video :supergrin:

Stringbender
01-19-2013, 02:34
I just purchased a G23 Gen3 as an addition to my Gen4 G19 and my Gen3 G22. My wife has laid claim to my G19 because it shoots a bit softer than the .40. I am not recoil sensitive and the .40 matches my nightstand gun (G22) and my carbine (kel-Tec Sub 2k) magazine wise so it was a no brainer to get the G23 for my edc. Having said all that, if I could only own ONE it would be the Gen 3 G19, it's "just right"

"Cold Dead Hands" !
01-19-2013, 03:54
After watching a cow get shot in the head twice by a 9mm...

Maybe a 23 is the way to go.
LOL !
He's never been robbed by a cow !
But, but carrying a pocket full of oats might come in handy.


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AR15 guy
01-19-2013, 07:31
Just in case cows are also affected by the zombie virus....duh!

RYNOCG201
01-19-2013, 07:34
I love my 23 but if I could start over I would get the 19. If i had the opportunity to trade someone my 23 and all of my .40 ammo for a 19 and equivalent amount of 9mm I'd probably take it.

onearmsteve
01-19-2013, 07:46
for a first handgun go 9mm

AR15 guy
01-19-2013, 10:33
I love my 23 but if I could start over I would get the 19. If i had the opportunity to trade someone my 23 and all of my .40 ammo for a 19 and equivalent amount of 9mm I'd probably take it.

I've been looking to trade my new 23 as well, but may just get a LW barrel, and the appropriate ejector/extractor.

RJHUB
01-19-2013, 11:03
Just one? G19.

G23 will come later.

Most have both eventually.
Not many get rid of the G19.

Scrappy
01-19-2013, 11:25
How to kill a cow
Captive bolt pistol!
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Jim
01-19-2013, 12:07
After watching a cow get shot in the head twice by a 9mm...

Maybe a 23 is the way to go.

I watched a deputy shoot an injured deer in the head, twice, with .45 ACP HydraShoks. The deer paid no attendion to him.
I shot it once in the head with a 9mm Silvertip, killed it instantly.

Something about shot placement...

snowbird.40
01-19-2013, 13:29
Get the 19. I purchased the setup you described and only THEN did I learn that the conversion barrel prevented me from shooting in the SSP division of the IDPA. I've also found that with a premium +p or +P+ hollow point load the terminal effect is very much similar to the .40 caliber (or the .45 ACP for that matter).

AR15 guy
01-19-2013, 13:58
I watched a deputy shoot an injured deer in the head, twice, with .45 ACP HydraShoks. The deer paid no attendion to him.
I shot it once in the head with a 9mm Silvertip, killed it instantly.

Something about shot placement...

It literally crated the cows skull, but didn't penetrate.

cangler
01-19-2013, 13:58
don't own 40 s&w anymore, prefer 9mm and 45 acp

Castello Dunhill
01-21-2013, 18:44
I decided on a Gen3 23 with Hornady Zombie Max 165g rounds!

1canvas
01-21-2013, 20:03
[QUOTE=Jim;19885166]I watched a deputy shoot an injured deer in the head, twice, with .45 ACP HydraShoks. The deer paid no attendion to him.
I shot it once in the head with a 9mm Silvertip, killed it instantly.

now thats funny:rofl:.

mjsarge
01-22-2013, 22:27
if u plan on spending alot of time at the range - i'd recommend the 19. if not, get what ever u prefer because u want be buying alot of ammo. i would recommend a 30 or 30s for carry.

Ditto.

ChiTownPicaro
01-23-2013, 03:00
Get the Glock 19. The 19 is my ideal CCW gun. I am partial to the 9mm round as it is cheaper to shoot and I find myself shooting it better than the .40 S&W round. Less recoil and the recoil is not so snappy. I much prefer it for those reasons, not to mention you get more rounds in the magazine.

BBMW
01-23-2013, 10:43
I don't own either, but I just shot a 23 gen4 last week. I live in NYC so I don't get to shoot nearly as much as I'd like. But even given that, I found the recoil from the .40 to be a non-issue.

Given the increased versatility of the pistol (you can convert to 357SIG and 9mm) the increased effectiveness of the .40, and the fact that .40 seems to be available when nothing else is, I think the G23 is the way to go.

Also, if you want to go with a Gen 4 model, the .40s seem to be having much less problems than the 9mms. From what I've heard, the Gen 4 basic design was built around .40, then ported to 9mm. This may be the cause of some of the problems the 9ers have been having.

ScottieG59
01-23-2013, 12:14
With premium defense ammo, the Glock 19 or the 23 will achieve the same results.

If premium ammo is not available, we go back to the idea that bigger is better. If all you can get is FMJ, the Glock 23 should do better.

If you shoot the Glock 23 well, you will shoot the Glock 19 better.

The Glock 19 carries 2 extra rounds in the current legal environment (excluding several non-free stars).

The Glock 19 should last longer than the Glock 23, but by how much? I remember reading how a steel bicycle frame lasts longer than an aluminum one. With the aluminum frame expected to last 150 years with a world class bicyclist hammering it all day, it really did not matter to me that steel lasts longer.

One final issue has to do with a bird in the hand vs two in the bush. You just might want to go with what you can get. The Glock 19 has perhaps the highest demand. It is hard to find them and harder to find magazines. For now, the Glock 23 is easier to find as are the magazines.

Though both guns are fine, last month, I bought a Glock 19 Gen4 FDE. I may get a 23 later, but I already bought tons of magazines and ammo.

BBMW
01-23-2013, 14:41
I disagree with this. The .40 starts out with more mass and more diameter. Given the same bullet design technologies, this allows .40 to lever up to some combination of larger expanded diameter and deeper penetration. The higher mass will also allow better bone penetration than 9mm.

In the early days, the barrel design for Glocks .40 caused some problems. That has long since been worked out. I would expect no difference in useful life between the 19 and 23, since 9mm and .40 run at the same chamber pressure.

I also think the recoil issue is a bit of a red herring, and any difference can be dealt with through training.


With premium defense ammo, the Glock 19 or the 23 will achieve the same results.

If premium ammo is not available, we go back to the idea that bigger is better. If all you can get is FMJ, the Glock 23 should do better.

If you shoot the Glock 23 well, you will shoot the Glock 19 better.

The Glock 19 carries 2 extra rounds in the current legal environment (excluding several non-free stars).

The Glock 19 should last longer than the Glock 23, but by how much? I remember reading how a steel bicycle frame lasts longer than an aluminum one. With the aluminum frame expected to last 150 years with a world class bicyclist hammering it all day, it really did not matter to me that steel lasts longer.

One final issue has to do with a bird in the hand vs two in the bush. You just might want to go with what you can get. The Glock 19 has perhaps the highest demand. It is hard to find them and harder to find magazines. For now, the Glock 23 is easier to find as are the magazines.

Though both guns are fine, last month, I bought a Glock 19 Gen4 FDE. I may get a 23 later, but I already bought tons of magazines and ammo.

moonwilson
01-23-2013, 15:17
I own both. I like both. There is no wrong answer here.

bignuglyone
01-23-2013, 15:48
I'm gonna go OT here and say if the primary use is for carry get a G26. If you use the gun in a belt holster the barrel is short enough it won't hang out of a tee shirt worn out. I've got a G26 and a G23 both Gen3's. The 23 is new to me this week but I've had one before. The 26 I carry in a back pocket holster with 12 rds. or on my belt using a G19 mag and A&G grip adapter.

Pier23
01-23-2013, 17:01
I just picked up my Purchase Permit from my local Police Department, and I'm all set to buy my first handgun!

Now, the tough part is deciding on a Glock 19 or 23. For personal reasons, I will only be able to have one gun at this time, so I want to make the right choice.

My initial thoughts are leaning towards a 23 with a Lonewolf 40-9mm conversion barrel. Seems like it would be the best of both worlds.

I will be getting my conceal and carry permit next month, and plan to carry it daily after that.

Have both, enjoy both, the .40 makes a bigger hole, but the 9 makes more holes...maybe if just starting out the 9 might be a better gateway drug than the .40...

Glock234Me
01-23-2013, 17:13
I own both. I like both. There is no wrong answer here.

+1...G23 for EDC and G19 for the range. My G23....with NP3 and front serrations by Robar!

chemboy
01-23-2013, 17:43
Considering the lack of G19s and ammo! available at the moment, the OP might be best served with a G23 now and a 9mm conversion barrel down the road a bit.

BBMW
01-24-2013, 13:46
I can agree with this, sort of

+1...G23 for EDC and G19 for the range.
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You can achieve the same result with a 23 and a 9mm conversion barrel, and save $400.

Also, if you're carrying a .40, you should probably do the majority of your training with .40. I know it's more expensive, but the slight difference in characteristics might cause problems at just the wrong moment.

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My G23....with NP3 and front serrations by Robar!

Nice setup. What sights? And if you have more pics, please post.

SCmasterblaster
01-24-2013, 18:28
I'd get the G19 - the ammo is cheaper.