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SigFTW
01-18-2013, 10:59
I was finally able to take out the RIA .22 TCM to the range. It’s been cold and wet and I could never get myself out because we Texas folk are sensitive to the cold, 40 deg Is like freezing to us.

A little history:
The 22 (Micro-Mag) is the brain child of a custom gun smith Fred Craig and with the collaboration of Armscor (RIA) they came up with the RIA .22 TCM.

The range:
The first shot surprised the heck out of me because I was not expecting the deep and thunderous ka-boom along with a huge muzzle flash. With every shot after that I was grinning ear to ear, what a rush! The .22 TCM is one fast little bullet, clocking in around 2000+fps for a 40gr projectile (I did not have a coronagraph to confirm, just went by the published data). I had one box of factory ammo so only shot about 40 rounds, not a lot of trigger time but it did give me a good feel for the .22 TCM. Hardly any recoil, I would say it’s more bark than bite in the hands. The trigger has a 4lbs pull and felt really good. It did feel a little meaty in my hands compared to a 1911 single stack however the thin grips help to keep it manageable. I did not have any issues with FTF or FTE, it ran very smooth. The .22 TCM will give the 5.7 a run for the money!

The ammo:
Factory ammo is not cheap, runs about $22 to $25 for a box of 50. You do have the option to produce your own reloads for about $13-$15 a 100, not including brass. Visit Ammo Supply Warehouse, they sell the dies, brass, bullets and mags for a reasonable price. Load data is available on another forum, just PM me and I’ll send you the link if you are interested.

Some options:
19 round mags are available. (One 17 round comes with the gun)
VZ Grips are available. Factory grips are crappy looking.
Reloading dies, bullets and brass are available.
Ammo is still easy to find locally and online unlike other calibers.
New models are coming out this year, mid size and some upgrades.

Conclusion:
I would highly recommend the RIA .22 TCM for those looking for a high velocity (Micro-mag) round like the 5.7, offered at a much better price. Also, for those that wanted a 9mm style 1911, the .22 TCM/9mm makes for an attractive buy with the 9mm conversion barrel and spring that are easily to change. So, even if the .22 TCM failed and was no longer being manufactured you will still have a fully functioning 9mm.

Some more info:
Jeff Quinn with Gunblast give a great video review on the RIA .22 TCM. Around the 6:30 mark in his video he shows the penetration ability of the 22 TCM, a 3/16” plat steel was no match for the 22 TCM when compared to 9mm +p ammo.

http://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/gg558/SigFTW1/RIA%20TCM%2022/RIA22TCM-01_zpsfb092a04.jpg

http://i1243.photobucket.com/albums/gg558/SigFTW1/RIA%20TCM%2022/RIARange-01_zps3be929ec.jpg

ilgunguygt
01-18-2013, 11:48
Those are cool. I really want a 22tcm, I just cant dig the double stack.

fnfalman
01-18-2013, 12:22
Interesting...

Lew-G17
01-20-2013, 12:11
Interesting. I would like to see a conversion barrel for standard 1911's. That would be cool.

SigFTW
01-21-2013, 09:02
Interesting. I would like to see a conversion barrel for standard 1911's. That would be cool.

I agree!
I do know Armscor is working on new models, same double stack version though. Who knows maybe they will make a single stack version later.:dunno:

The 22 TCM seems to be picking up popularity, they sell very quickly especially with a 9mm conversion included, you just can't beat the price.

Was out hunting yesterday and decided to try out the 22 TCM at dark to see the muzzle flash. My buddy shot his 44 mag and the muzzle flash was not as big as the 22 TCM, both sounded about the same. Everyone there was amazed at the power of such a small cartage.

shotgunred
01-23-2013, 19:51
What advantage does the 22 TCM have over the already established 357 sig?

Lew-G17
01-23-2013, 20:14
As I understand it, much less recoil. 357 sig is a great caliber but recoil can be stiff.

SigFTW
01-24-2013, 07:59
As I understand it, much less recoil. 357 sig is a great caliber but recoil can be stiff.

Yes, very little recoil, slide spring for the 22 TCM is very light.

SigFTW
01-24-2013, 08:16
What advantage does the 22 TCM have over the already established 357 sig?

18 round capacity.
Higher velocity
Very light recoil

A better comparison would be the 5.7 to the 22 TCM.

bac1023
01-27-2013, 19:34
Thanks for the report. :cool:

SigFTW
01-28-2013, 07:33
Thanks for the report. :cool:

Thanks!

Just worked up some loads last night with the new 22 TCM dies. It took some time set up, I used a combination of the .223 conversion kit with the dies on a Dillon 550B, took some tweaking but got it working.

It funny to see big boar sound and muzzle blast from a little 22 bullet.