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atcs2152
01-19-2013, 15:11
I'm getting very close to buying my first (most likely only) handgun. I've settled on the compact size versus full size or sub-compact. I'm drawn to the Gen 4 Glock 23 or 32 because of the ability to convert to two other calibers. I really like the idea of having that versatility. In either case I would get a 9mm conversion barrel and mags and primarily shoot that at the range and use the other caliber for SD. I've shot both 9mm and 40 S&W in Glocks so I know how they handle and I shoot roughly the same with both. I've never shot .357 SIG but I like what I've read about it. I know the ammo is quite expensive but if its only for SD, I won't be shooting tons of it. (I understand the need to run a few hundred rounds through a new gun to establish reliability, to spend some range time with your SD ammo and to routinely rotate through existing SD ammo.) Actually my biggest concern with .357 SIG is if I ever have to fire it without ear protection in a SD situation. From what I've read, it's quite a bit louder than other rounds and I'm wondering if I'd suffer permanent hearing damage. I'm also curious about recoil although I've read posts claiming it's no worse, or possibly less than, 40 S&W. I'd appreciate some confirmation of that.

Markel
01-19-2013, 15:37
I have a G23 and a KKM barrel in .357 SIG. I have switched to 100% .357 SIG. Both calibers have been flawless through my G23, with 2200 rounds so far (50/50 split).

Since the guns are identical, it really makes no difference as far as mechanics. In my case since I have grown so fond of the .357 SIG, I sorta wish I had bought a G32 just to have .357 SIG on the slide. On the other hand, if you decide to resell at some point, a G23 will be easier to sell and likely fetch a higher price.

For your stated purposes, I'd recommend going with a G23 based on the resell advantage.

Btw, I think a G23 is the best all around handgun, especially if it is going to be your only handgun. There is none more versatile!

chemboy
01-19-2013, 15:56
I have both, and really like both thus far(just picked up the 32 a few weeks ago). As Markel states above, for the sake of resale value alone I would probably get the 23 and pick up a KKM barrel in .357 SIG.

24601
01-19-2013, 16:01
40 has more muzzle flip... 357 is snappier but not in a bad way... yes 357 is louder but if I lose my hearing in a sd situation then I'm not too concerned about it... then again, I don't take life super seriously like a lot of people...


posted from my phone while doing 90 down the highway...

atcs2152
01-19-2013, 17:47
In my case since I have grown so fond of the .357 SIG...

This is kind of what I've read before in that it seems like people that have shot the .357 SIG REALLY like it. That's what has me leaning that way lately.

detsgt696
01-19-2013, 17:56
I concur. Have a G23 & a G27 both with a 357 sig barrels. No looking back. Love the 357. Can't believe it's not more popular. Agree that a G23 would be easier to sell than a G32.

packinaglock
01-19-2013, 18:39
I have G27 and G23 in .40 cal, I just recently picked up a G32 and love it. It has quickly became my favorite caliber hands down.

sig357fan
01-19-2013, 19:35
Just gonna throw this out there from a reloaders perspective.

I have a G31 in 357 SIG with an aftermarket barrel in 40 S&W and a 9mm conversion barrel.

I reload for each caliber, for 9mm I load light loads with cast bullets for range practice and all around fun shooting. In 40 S&W, I ramp it up but still use cast bullets, this way I get a feel for SD ammo recoil. In 357 SIG, full power reloads with a jacketed bullet duplicating SD ammo, you really donít want to run a cast bullet in a stock Glock barrel at 357 SIG velocities. This all works for me because I reload and have no real worries about what or what isnít on the shelf of ammo retailers and can practice with whatever ammo I like.

I decided on 357 SIG as my SD round and would suggest that you decide on which caliber you plan on carrying with and keep your Glock stock in that caliber, then get whatever caliber barrel you like to save on cost for practice ammo.

Just my $0.02 worth

Sig357fan

Adamz04
01-19-2013, 19:38
Skip the g23 and go right to the g32. Trust me you won't regret it and you will never buy a 40 barrel cause you will love 357sig so much. I bought a gen4 g32 with some of the same things in mind and haven't even given 40 a second look. If you buy a g23 you will always want to get a 357 barrel just to try it out. Then you will have a 40 barrel that you will never use and you will be saying" just should have bought the g32".

Oldmso54
01-19-2013, 19:41
My first ever Glock purchase was the G23. Just picked it up today (3 day waiting period here in FL). We took it to the range this afternoon and put 100 rounds through it. It was freakin awesome!

Felt great in my hand. Shot straight as an arrow. I couldn't be happier. Even my wife (5' 2") shot 20 rounds and loved it!

bac1023
01-19-2013, 19:46
I prefer 357 Sig

rl356
01-19-2013, 20:16
They're both Glocks, so you really can't go wrong either way. You can have both calibers (.357sig and .40S&W) in either pistol, so it pretty much just boils down to what you want stamped on the slide.

I was recently looking to get into .357 Sig. I decided to buy used rather than new, and was looking for a 33. Found one that also included a lone wolf .40S&W barrel. I like the smaller profile of the 33.

If you're also looking to have a 9mm conversion barrel, I'd also suggest that you consider replacing a couple other internal parts just to make it more reliable. A 9mm recoil spring, and 9mm ejector could prove helpful.

Irish Stout
01-19-2013, 20:27
I have a G23 and love it. I bought it for the same versatility, but have yet to get another barrel. I have no experience with the G32. Does your shop do rentals? May be worth renting both to find out which you prefer.

G19ftw
01-19-2013, 20:33
I'd get the 32, but I reload. 357sig is expensive to buy factory loads, but cheap to reload so thats a big factor for me.

And for hearing damage: if thats the only injury you sustain in a firefight, you're doing pretty good.

bobtheelf
01-19-2013, 20:34
Flip a coin, and get a barrel for the other. Or, get whichever is cheaper and a barrel for the other.

Or get both, like I did!

Supposedly .357 Sig is more reliable feeding because of the bottleneck design. I don't know for sure about that, but it's been flawless for me.

elijah58
01-19-2013, 20:40
I prefer the G32 over the G23' I just like the extra power and ballistics that you get from. The sig round.
Eli

Rev.357
01-19-2013, 20:49
Many now can say that the .357sig is just an awesome! Just look at how many Mel/LE are using it. It's track record just gets better! I just love my G32 it's my main ccw! Out of all my hand guns 9mm,40's & 45 the 357sig rules!

Markel
01-20-2013, 16:04
Skip the g23 and go right to the g32. Trust me you won't regret it and you will never buy a 40 barrel cause you will love 357sig so much. I bought a gen4 g32 with some of the same things in mind and haven't even given 40 a second look. If you buy a g23 you will always want to get a 357 barrel just to try it out. Then you will have a 40 barrel that you will never use and you will be saying" just should have bought the g32".

+1. Agreed because it happened to me just like that! Still, if you aren't sure, resale of a G23 is easier. Most people just ain't as edgeumucated as you and I!

CynicX
01-20-2013, 17:39
I'd get whichever you can find the cheapest. You might be able to talk down the price of a 32 more then a 23.

When I bought my glock they had a 32 and 23 in stock but the had a 23 barrel. I was able to get the 32 plus 23 barrel for the price of the 23. The shop owner was looking to unload both.

I prefer shooting it in the 357 sig configuration however I have no problems with the 40 round.

davsco
01-20-2013, 18:19
i have both and like both. just a personal preference but i like the .357sig round better. mag capacity is the same so that's not an issue.

i actually shot a uspsa match with my 32 (just to give it and me a test of sorts under pressure) and didn't do too much worse than using my g34.

atcs2152
01-20-2013, 19:04
Thanks all. I think you've pretty much convinced me to get the G32. Resale isn't a big deal to me as I don't foresee getting rid of it and sounds like everyone loves the .357 SIG.

atcs2152
01-28-2013, 20:33
Well folks, despite my last post, I ended up getting the G23. Mainly because that's what I could find in Gen 4 and I was eager to buy. I probably won't have a chance to get to the range until Friday but I can hardly wait. I've rented a G23 several times (not sure what Gen but not a 4) so it will be interesting to see how much this differs. Now for all the accessories.

SDGlock23
01-28-2013, 21:34
Good choice. I really like my gen4 G23 and while I have a 357 Sig barrel for it, I rarely shoot it. Both are great cartridges, but I prefer the .40 as a whole.

UtahBassKicker
01-28-2013, 21:56
I'm new to handguns but I love my 23. Originally was looking at a 26 but the 23 popped up and I couldn't pass it up. I wasn't even aware of the versatility at the time. I can't think of one reason to question my purchase of the 23, it rocks.

thinktwice
01-29-2013, 01:12
If I cold choose only one for S/D it would be the 357 Sig.

JakeFromStateFarm
01-29-2013, 02:32
I've shot my glock 23 19 and a buddies Glock 20 inside my home through my back door(nothing was in the direction the rounds were traveling) periodically just to see how loud they were with no hearing protection to simulate a HD situation.(assuming you don't have ear plugs next to you're nightstand gun lol) and yes it was pretty god dam loud to say the least but after a couple hours my hearing was normal. BUT, in a real HD scenario you don't really have a choice now do you?

Bill Lumberg
01-29-2013, 06:47
23 by far. That said, you can't tell much difference between .40 and .357 sig without hearing protection. Both are louder than your ears can handle. I'm getting very close to buying my first (most likely only) handgun. I've settled on the compact size versus full size or sub-compact. I'm drawn to the Gen 4 Glock 23 or 32 because of the ability to convert to two other calibers. I really like the idea of having that versatility. In either case I would get a 9mm conversion barrel and mags and primarily shoot that at the range and use the other caliber for SD. I've shot both 9mm and 40 S&W in Glocks so I know how they handle and I shoot roughly the same with both. I've never shot .357 SIG but I like what I've read about it. I know the ammo is quite expensive but if its only for SD, I won't be shooting tons of it. (I understand the need to run a few hundred rounds through a new gun to establish reliability, to spend some range time with your SD ammo and to routinely rotate through existing SD ammo.) Actually my biggest concern with .357 SIG is if I ever have to fire it without ear protection in a SD situation. From what I've read, it's quite a bit louder than other rounds and I'm wondering if I'd suffer permanent hearing damage. I'm also curious about recoil although I've read posts claiming it's no worse, or possibly less than, 40 S&W. I'd appreciate some confirmation of that.

FloorPoor
01-29-2013, 20:17
23 by far. That said, you can't tell much difference between .40 and .357 sig without hearing protection. Both are louder than your ears can handle.

First post on the forum, this one just grabbed my attention.
How many of you have shot a big game animal? I noticed when you are "adrenalized" and excited, you don't even notice the recoil of a high power rifle, or notice the sound, but when you shoot the same rifle in practice, w/o plugs (not recommended) it is freaking LOUD! and recoil can be sharp!

I imagine the same thing happens in a SD situation. When the adrenaline is up, you won't even notice how loud the cartridge is. What's more important than the noise level is being able to deliver accurate fire, so get which ever one you will be able to shoot the best, and practice!

jim goose
01-30-2013, 09:52
I'm thinking about the same.

Are the springs the same in the g23 and g32? Are the barrel and mags the only the difference?(i understand the mags have minor diff and will work in one another)

I ask this because if its the only difference is the barrel, then even if my primary caliber were to be the .357, I'd get the 23 and upgrade to a premium LW barrel for the .357.

ConnorAndrews
01-30-2013, 10:13
I love my 23. I would recommend it to anybody.

chemboy
01-30-2013, 10:19
First post on the forum, this one just grabbed my attention.
How many of you have shot a big game animal? I noticed when you are "adrenalized" and excited, you don't even notice the recoil of a high power rifle, or notice the sound, but when you shoot the same rifle in practice, w/o plugs (not recommended) it is freaking LOUD! and recoil can be sharp!

I imagine the same thing happens in a SD situation. When the adrenaline is up, you won't even notice how loud the cartridge is. What's more important than the noise level is being able to deliver accurate fire, so get which ever one you will be able to shoot the best, and practice!

I have often wondered the same. I have shot a few deer with magnum calibers(270wby, 300RUM) which are very loud and my ears(no hearing protection) weren't hurting in the slightest!

M1fuzz
01-30-2013, 10:58
Auditory exclusion. You won't hear it or it will be muffled. I used a 12 gauge with 00 buck under a car port in the line of duty. Never heard it.

legalsten
01-30-2013, 14:36
I bought a 32 C earlier this week . My thought was I can buy a 40 and 9 mm and shoot reloads . I didn't plan on reloading the 357 so I wanted the factory barrel in 357. Plus I believe it is a excellent self defence cartridge and some say the factory barells do feed a little better than aftermarket with the tighter chambers .

Bigpoppie50
01-30-2013, 15:03
Like what other posters have said, if you have only one handgun Get the G23 and just buy a 357Sig aftermarket barrel or vice versa it works either way.

FloorPoor
01-30-2013, 18:37
I kinda wish I had bought a 23 or 32 instead of a 19, just for the caliber change versatility, but I found a very sweet deal on a like new 2nd gen 19 with night sights, so I just carry very hot SD loads.

happyguy
01-31-2013, 21:54
I prefer 357 Sig

Why is that? I have never shot it but I would respect your opinion.

Regards,
Comrade Happyguy :)

atcs2152
02-02-2013, 14:48
I put the first 50 rounds through my new Gen 4 Glock 23 yesterday and I am quite happy with it. At first I was hitting a little high but once I got used to it, I managed to put 8 out of my first 25 rounds through the one inch bulls eye at 10 yards. It's been several weeks since I had rented a non Gen 4 G23 so it's hard to compare but I hardly even noticed any recoil. No brass to the head except one that I'm pretty sure bounced off the side of the shooting stall.

MrLawless1
02-04-2013, 01:40
I have the '23, and I really enjoy it.

But, my friend, if you think this is the only gun you'll buy..... well..... They can be pleasantly addicting!

Enjoy your new gun!!!!

ADK_40GLKr
02-04-2013, 07:20
Well folks, despite my last post, I ended up getting the G23. Mainly because that's what I could find in Gen 4 and I was eager to buy. I probably won't have a chance to get to the range until Friday but I can hardly wait. I've rented a G23 several times (not sure what Gen but not a 4) so it will be interesting to see how much this differs. Now for all the accessories.

You can always buy a Glock G32 barrel. I think theyre still $125. That's all you'd need, as the ammo fits in the 23 mags.

ACCESSORIES??? (see below) :tongueout: :welcome:

goosedowner1
02-04-2013, 07:58
Good Luck finding a Gen 4 G32 right now. Even my LEO friends can't get them for 4 to 6 months. I'm looking for the same gun right now.

CLoft239
02-13-2013, 05:19
Auditory exclusion. You won't hear it or it will be muffled. I used a 12 gauge with 00 buck under a car port in the line of duty. Never heard it.

I can vouch for this ^^. I was involved in a SD shooting 4 years ago inside a vehicle. I was using a G31 and even being in a vehicle I heard nothing. Saw the muzzle flash, but that was about it. Had I not seen the flash, I probably would have squeezed again thinking I hadn't shot the first time.

Needless to say, I no longer give people I don't know a ride anywhere.

Sent from the Titanic. I named my phone "The Titanic" so when I plug it into the computer it says "The Titanic is syncing".

atcs2152
02-13-2013, 05:50
I understand the concept of auditory exclusion but even though YOU don't hear it, I have to assume your ears did. IOW, the sound waves were still produced, they reached your ears which were still affected by them but your brain decided not to process the sound for you as it normally would because of the stress of the moment. As such, auditory exclusion or not, I assume there's still potential for damage to ones ears. I'm curious, those of you who experienced auditory exclusion, did you notice typical symptoms of being exposed to a loud noise after the fact, such as ringing in your ears, temporary diminished hearing, etc?

FWIW, I've ordered a G32 barrel for my G23 and I'm hoping it will show up soon so I can try it out. I suspect the .357SIG will become my favorite caliber.

trigger45
02-13-2013, 06:01
ammo is easier to find in .40s&w. me being a muzzleloader shooter i like bullet weight.

CLoft239
02-13-2013, 06:15
I understand the concept of auditory exclusion but even though YOU don't hear it, I have to assume your ears did. IOW, the sound waves were still produced, they reached your ears which were still affected by them but your brain decided not to process the sound for you as it normally would because of the stress of the moment. As such, auditory exclusion or not, I assume there's still potential for damage to ones ears. I'm curious, those of you who experienced auditory exclusion, did you notice typical symptoms of being exposed to a loud noise after the fact, such as ringing in your ears, temporary diminished hearing, etc?

FWIW, I've ordered a G32 barrel for my G23 and I'm hoping it will show up soon so I can try it out. I suspect the .357SIG will become my favorite caliber.

I didn't experience any ringing of the ears or any noticeable effects, but that's not to say everybody else is the same as me.

Sent from the Titanic. I named my phone "The Titanic" so when I plug it into the computer it says "The Titanic is syncing".

BMiracletx
02-13-2013, 09:21
Congrats on the 23. I love both my 23 and my 32. I shoot 40 more, but find the 357sig more accurate. I reload my own so it is actually cheaper to shoot 357sig due to using 9mm bullets. Either way you would have gone it would have been a good choice.

blackbmw
02-13-2013, 09:29
Glock 27 with a storm lake tree fiddy seven barrel. Soon to have a 9mm barrel also. Im a 357sig fan.