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xfarfuldog
01-19-2013, 18:48
What is the best trigger you have ever seen (felt) on a hand gun? I'd guess we would have to throw out revolvers and 1911's. It would not be fair to have semi autos try to compete with a Python or a nice 1911 trigger. I am mostly thinking about standard factory guns. Although it would be nice to consider some tuned by Grayguns etc.

What is the best trigger you have experienced?

countrygun
01-19-2013, 19:07
DA? SA? Both? Striker fired?

barth
01-19-2013, 19:12
Best carry triggers from my personal collection;
SemiAuto: HK45C Light LEM
Revolver: S&W M65-3 357 Magnum (Special K)
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xfarfuldog
01-19-2013, 19:13
Yes..........Good question. I am looking for what everyone thinks is best. SA triggers probably would be best. Curious about DA's as well. I think that striker fired are at a big disadvantage but should be some decent ones out there.

Haldor
01-19-2013, 19:37
For a production gun it is hard to beat a S&W N Frame revolver. The Python has slightly better double action (I learned to shoot on a Python), but the single action pull of a nice N frame is just unbelievable.

I was dry firing my Model 29 today just for fun.

In semi-auto top honors would have to go to a finely tuned, custom 1911.

Double action I am really impressed with my 9mm glocks. The pull is a nice balance of safety and reliable consistency. You do need to learn how the trigger works for best accuracy (lots of dry firing), but once you do you can turn in surprisingly tight groups.

- Edit -

I did my best shooting ever with a Model 28 Highway Patrolman (6" barrel) back in the early '80s.

- Distance, measured after the fact at 110 yards.
- Target, 3 empty Coke cans.
- Ammo, 125g JHP hand loads (my own)

Results:
- 1st shot, 6" low and 2" to the right.
- 2nd shot, hit.
- 3rd shot, hit.

Pistol immediately put away since there was no way on Earth to improve on that performance. Life long bragging rights (brother-in-law and sister as eye witnesses). My sister happened to refer to this incident the last time I was in town. I preened like a game cock for hours afterward.

bac1023
01-19-2013, 19:41
My Pardini GT-9, Sig X-Five, and CZ 75 Champion are among the best as far as non-1911s are concerned.

They are all a bit expensive though. What price range are you looking at?

countrygun
01-19-2013, 19:44
Yes..........Good question. I am looking for what everyone thinks is best. SA triggers probably would be best. Curious about DA's as well. I think that striker fired are at a big disadvantage but should be some decent ones out there.

To me it is way too subjective to just answer with a name. different people react to triggers differently. I have been shooting long enough to be able to work with anything but I also feel my experience allows me to evaluate and compare a bit more fairly and I am not as swayed by group think as al of of people have read.

For instance.

The Springfield XD tactical I just got has a better trigger that the other two XDs here. In fact it is nicer than several "creepy" 1911s I've shot.

In traditional DA/SA autos the two of the best shooting ones I own have very different trigger pulls in both modes. The Sigpro 2022 (and my 2340) has a long but light DA that stacks at the end a bit, bur it doesn't affect me if I pull through and offers the option of "staging" the trigger. The SA is very crisp. It is very much like a Colt Python in most respects.

The CZ 75 compact has a much shorter DA pull but heavier and glass smooth. It reminds me of a well tuned S&W "J" frame. The SA is typical CZ in that it rolls the hammer back a tiny bit and many shooters would call it "too creepy" but, being a revolver shooter I don't find a very slight DA like single action pull to be a problem.

then you can go to the S&W 39 series variants, particularly the 3913 and 908. They are more like a slick "K" frame and the SAs are as crisp as a Smith revolver, but, being of that series they have the shortest reset I've found on a DA/SA auto. You can really unload one in a hurry.

I just can't find a yardstick that makes one the "best"

Steel Head
01-19-2013, 19:47
I got to shoot a professionally worked on S&W 41 that was a DREAM in the trigger dept.

xfarfuldog
01-19-2013, 20:38
This question came to me at a range today. I was shooting my issued M&P 40 along with a G23 and a recently acquired S&W 66 with stainless sights. I shot the 66 in single action better then the Glock and the Smith. Double action although smooth was more difficult. Inside the range store I was talking with the employees. One of them was carrying a 1911. I mentioned that I had a SA Pro on order. He looked at me a little funny and picked up a Sig X5 and showed it to me. It of course had an excellent trigger, I just replied it was not a 45.

Most of my guns are Glocks which do not have excellent triggers. I have given up on my beloved HK's because of poor triggers. I ordered the Pro and own a TLE as well as a Python. I shoot much better with the 1911 and the Python. I am searching for a semi auto with a great trigger. I do not think the striker fired guns can compete with guns with great triggers. I am just interested in what others think.

RGbiker
01-19-2013, 21:57
My choices.....

G26 with Glockmeister trigger work.

SA XDs .45acp with Powder River spring kit.

S&W model 10 in single action.

grumpy1
01-19-2013, 21:57
For a factory combat pistol other than 1911 - the Walther PPQ.

PzGren
01-19-2013, 23:05
For me it is on my Hämmerli 212. That trigger is even outstanding compared to other Hämmerli 208s.

Free pistols with their electronic trigger are something that I do not even want to mention here.

ronin.45
01-19-2013, 23:56
A well tuned K frame DA!

ranger1968
01-20-2013, 00:31
Either a tuned K- frame, a Colt Python, or, believe it or not, a CZ-82.

bac1023
01-20-2013, 09:37
Dang guys, didn't you read the question? ;)

He said no 1911s or revolvers and that's what most the suggestions have been. :tongueout:

skeeter7
01-20-2013, 12:43
I love the trigger on the Sig P229 with the SRT kit installed in it.

DoubleWide
01-20-2013, 13:10
Dang guys, didn't you read the question? ;)

He said no 1911s or revolvers and that's what most the suggestions have been. :tongueout:

Well I think most people are going to base the best trigger pull on single action. I mean there are great double actions but you still have the weight and length of pull to compare. I'd split them into categories.

I bought a worked on 629 and the single action is crisp,light and no overtravel, but it's a little scary. I test out experienced shooters with practice rounds and most pull it accidentally in single action. I've considered selling it for standard 5" model.

checkyoursix
01-20-2013, 13:47
CZ custom shop does some amazing work on triggers, a well tuned CZ is a thing of beauty.

For polymer guns, PPQ and Caracal are the best out of the box, XDM is not bad either.

jakebrake
01-20-2013, 13:52
figure sa/da.

my tastes in order

beretta
h&k
sig

and those all seemed to be pretty close

the 4506 had a so/so trigger on it.

Dawolf
01-20-2013, 14:01
Stone stock, a Walther PPQ.
Customized, my Glock 24 competition piece.

Bruce M
01-20-2013, 15:25
The trigger on my P220 stainless with the SRT is the best non-1911 pistol trigger I have fired.

gregw
01-20-2013, 15:58
For factory striker fired it is definitely the Walther PPQ.

Hamilton Burger
01-20-2013, 16:15
My '68 S&W 36 has the best SA trigger I've had.

Jason D
01-20-2013, 19:44
S&W Model 52-1

Dubble-Tapper
01-20-2013, 22:51
honestly, the best feeling SA trigger ive had the pleasure to shoot was a CZ-75 that Angus Hobdell worked over.

T-Rod45
01-20-2013, 23:08
For me... Walther PPQ or M&P Pro with an Apex trigger kit installed.

The Q had a nicer, audible reset. Both are the closest I've felt compared to my custom 1911... And cost a third as much.

Haldor
01-21-2013, 08:11
Dang guys, didn't you read the question? ;)

He said no 1911s or revolvers and that's what most the suggestions have been. :tongueout:

The truth is what it is. I did mention that I liked Glocks trigger pull for an affordable production pistol.

bac1023
01-21-2013, 08:24
The truth is what it is.

Very true, Haldor :)

Berto
01-21-2013, 14:56
The best SA trigger I have is my Ruger MKII with a Volq. target sear installed...better than my Kimber's (very good) trigger.

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/1247/tokandmkiiandbianchi001.jpg

Best TDA trigger I've tried is the 3913 ....still a little stiffer than a good DA revolver, but quick reset and easy to work with.

http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/8082/3913report005.jpg

Best DAO is my NY1 mod 64, hands-down. All my K frames are good, but this one is the best, and I like the smooth faced trigger.
Yes, it's still a revolver. Sorry.
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My best striker fired trigger is this old Belgian Melior pistol, it's really much like the Luger pistol's, except no creep. Just a nice clean SA break.

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NEOH212
01-21-2013, 16:04
Staying with in the boundaries of firearm types the OP set, I would say Sig.

Golddog
01-22-2013, 20:00
Factory triggers: CZ 75 SAO; Ruger MK II .22.

Some of the suggestions here are quite the opposite of my experience. Every S&W 3913/14 and similar Smiths have had terrible pulls. The Colt Python DA is grossly inferior to Smith K, L, and N pulls, but the Python has a better SA pull.

Comedian
01-22-2013, 21:15
Factory stock DA/SA would be the last Sig P229 9mm i had a few yrs ago. Factory stock striker fired would be PPQ, Caracal and the new trigger S&W has put into some of their recent production M&P's. My recently purchased M&P 9 FS has an excellent trigger for a striker fired pistol.

SVTNate
01-24-2013, 01:16
My new Sig Sauer X5 Tactical, which is an SAO trigger, and has been improved by Bruce Gray. It has the Reduced Reset Duty Package.

It's really not even close. Exclude Pythons and 1911's, and nothing else I've shot is this good. I assume that a tuned BHP from Novak or Heirloom Precision would be a real contender, but I've only shot a stock BHP and the trigger was disappointing.

vafish
01-24-2013, 10:00
Styer LP50 air pistol.

posted from my stupid smart phone, please excuse any spelling mistakes.