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Sheepdog689
01-26-2013, 12:53
To those dealers that are taking a mag out of the box and reselling it claiming that Glock only ships one mag.

4095fanatic
01-26-2013, 12:57
Those stores that are doing that should be posted here and never bought from again. It's one thing to mark a price up... it's another to try and shaft the customer then blaming it on GLOCK.

John_NJ
01-26-2013, 15:54
Those stores that are doing that should be posted here and never bought from again. It's one thing to mark a price up... it's another to try and shaft the customer then blaming it on GLOCK.

Agree. Any of these dealers are scum.

glockfanbob
01-26-2013, 15:58
Good to hear that glock sent this out. Also, I haven't bought a gen4 before, I had no clue they came with 3 mags instead of 2.

Made in Austria
01-26-2013, 16:28
This happened to me a while ago. Dealer opened for me a Glock case on the counter with a nice gen4 g23 in it, but I only saw two mags. I asked him where the third mag is located at. He said, no, there is no third mag. I then showed him the label on the Glock case which clearly says, "3 13 RD" he looked on the floor for a second and brought me a third mag. I will never forget his face, he looked like a little boy who just stole an lollypop. He also reminded me of Vlatimir Putin with his sneaky facial expression sometimes.

Angry Fist
01-26-2013, 16:30
Agree. Any of these dealers are scum.
Seconded! :fist:

KennyFSU
01-26-2013, 16:42
So gen3 Glocks only come with 2 mags?


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SCmasterblaster
01-26-2013, 16:43
Seconded! :fist:

Amen! :steamed:

michael_b
01-26-2013, 16:52
I think making a list of dealers doing this is a fantastic idea- call them out publicly.


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oldman11
01-26-2013, 16:59
I had a LGS try that with a Ruger LC9 when they first came out (which comes with 2 mags). Dealer said they only come with 1. I didn't buy the gun from him. For what ever reason, I wound up not buying an LC9 at all from any GS.

4095fanatic
01-26-2013, 17:07
Well, what do you know, I guess I do have good ideas and posts that aren't ignored every once in a while lol. Any mods or members more senior than me care to get the party started?

elijah58
01-26-2013, 17:20
There was a guy that posted recently that he had bought a gen 4 that should have had 3 hicap mags and came with 2 10 rounders, he was asked the name of the LGS but he wouldn't give it up. This would stop me from buying from them ever again. I would like to see Glock start pulling dealerships and posting the names of the thieves that are stealing from the customers. Like they are not already overcharging for everything now anyway. I know there are a few good ones left but most are pure crooks.

Eli

KI0HO
01-26-2013, 19:13
well it is already paying off being on GT.....hopefuly will be picking up a G19 G21 gen 4 in a few days.....I will be taking a copy of the letter from Glock with me.....just in case there is a question on what is in the box...and I will post the results ...Good or Bad in bold letters for all to see...am hopeing all will be well......

samurairabbi
01-26-2013, 19:35
That missing hicap mag was a standard condition during the 1994-2004 ban period on police trade-ins and NIB Glocks. It was an easy trap to tempt gunshops.

William Buckley once gave this analysis of the problems facing Socialism and Capitalism:

The problem with Socialism IS Socialism. The problem with Capitalism is CapitalISTS!

SARDG
01-26-2013, 20:04
So gen3 Glocks only come with 2 mags?
Standard size Blue Label Gen 3s come with 3 mags.

arayme
01-26-2013, 20:20
I picked up a blue label G21 Gen 3 from my favorite gun shop last week. It came with 3 high capacity mags (like it should).

:cool:

However, when I asked about additional magazines, he said that they had raised their prices from $25.00 to $50.00 each at the first of the year.

:steamed:

Very disappointing...

arayme

MotoXXX
01-27-2013, 00:17
Standard size Blue Label Gen 3s come with 3 mags.

I am new to this, I just bought my first Glock 23 today.
What do you mean by blue label? How do I know what Gen mine is? It has a red label that says FXD 5.5 lb. and below that it says 3 13RD and it did come with three 13 rd. mags. It was brand new but the trigger lock wasn't in the box, but I didn't notice it until I got home with it.

gooffeyguy
01-27-2013, 00:34
I am new to this, I just bought my first Glock 23 today.
What do you mean by blue label? How do I know what Gen mine is? It has a red label that says FXD 5.5 lb. and below that it says 3 13RD and it did come with three 13 rd. mags. It was brand new but the trigger lock wasn't in the box, but I didn't notice it until I got home with it.

Blue label is for Law Enforcement purchases.

If you are not then it is probably a Gen 4.

Does it say "Gen4" on the slide?

They also have replaceable/adjustable backstraps and a dual spring recoil guide rod system

MotoXXX
01-27-2013, 00:56
Blue label is for Law Enforcement purchases.

If you are not then it is probably a Gen 4.

Does it say "Gen4" on the slide?

They also have replaceable/adjustable backstraps and a dual spring recoil guide rod system

Mine does not say Gen 4 on the slide, and it does have the finger grips so it apparently must be a Gen 3....correct?

But as I stated earlier mine came with three thirteen rd. mags.

ChiTownPicaro
01-27-2013, 01:06
It is good to see Glock taking the time to address this problem. It is really shady of dealers to take advantage of their customers like this. I would suggest that we do keep a thread of these dealers so that others can be aware. I don't think they would like to lose their relationships with Glock as Glock is a very large gun company and this could hurt their sales, especially if they are in the business of selling to law enforcement.

Folsom_Prison
01-27-2013, 02:10
I don't buy guns alot or frequent my favorite LGS very often, BUT I will say that the guy I like to deal with doesn't pull shady crap!!

Bought my Gen 4 17 a few weeks back. Price was as the same as months ago before this whole fiasco started! What AR's he gets in are spoken for, he's had a waiting list and and he hasn't tried to screw the prices on them for the ones able to buy them!

I'm just happy to deal with an honest guy! Really he has no reason to screw people, he's making a killin as it is, if he tried to shaft people I'm sure his business would fall off.

Glock40man
01-27-2013, 02:25
Mine does not say Gen 4 on the slide, and it does have the finger grips so it apparently must be a Gen 3....correct?



Yes sir.

CynicX
01-27-2013, 05:37
A lot of stores have been doing this for years. I bought a used range gun (gen 3 g17) years ago. After the BS Maryland cool down I picked up the gun, NO MAGS in the box!!

I thought at first it was just an oversight and they forgot the mags. They told me they were extra. In a fit of rage (I was seeing red) I pulled my phone out and started the process of canceling the purchase via my credit card company. They quickly found two mags for me. I was still pissed and almost cancelled anyway but wussed out and took the mags and left.

SARDG
01-27-2013, 05:52
I am new to this, I just bought my first Glock 23 today.
What do you mean by blue label? How do I know what Gen mine is? It has a red label that says FXD 5.5 lb. and below that it says 3 13RD and it did come with three 13 rd. mags. It was brand new but the trigger lock wasn't in the box, but I didn't notice it until I got home with it.

Mine does not say Gen 4 on the slide, and it does have the finger grips so it apparently must be a Gen 3....correct?

But as I stated earlier mine came with three thirteen rd. mags.
The only Red Labels that I am aware of only came with 3 mags if they were Gen4. Look again on the side of your slide. As stated above, it should also have a small plastic bag with 2 backstraps and a tool as well.

SARDG
01-27-2013, 05:56
...It was brand new but the trigger lock wasn't in the box, but I didn't notice it until I got home with it.
Go ask the shop for the lock. I believe it's a law in most states to include those with new handguns. They are pretty worthless and inconvenient, but you may find another use for it.

HexHead
01-27-2013, 06:21
So gen3 Glocks only come with 2 mags?


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Gen 3 Blue Labels come with 3 mags unless they are the sub-compacts.

koz4guns
01-27-2013, 07:38
Classic Arms in Cordova TN had a Gen 4 Glock 22 in the case yesterday with a note on the tag that said it came with 2 mags.

I know it was new because he uses yellow tags to show used and white to show new and it had a white tag.

I wasn't interested in it so I didn't say anything, with all of the people buying guns now that usually don't he will probably sell it that way no problem.

Koz

tbob38
01-27-2013, 07:49
I recently bought a G19 and a G23 at the local hardware store. The clerk announced proudly that the new Gen 4s came with 3 mags. Good to shop local here.

samurairabbi
01-27-2013, 08:03
A lot of stores have been doing this for years. I bought a used range gun (gen 3 g17) years ago. After the BS Maryland cool down I picked up the gun, NO MAGS in the box!!

... Or perhaps you were buying a Bren Ten!

Firecop203
01-27-2013, 08:36
I am new to this, I just bought my first Glock 23 today.
What do you mean by blue label? How do I know what Gen mine is? It has a red label that says FXD 5.5 lb. and below that it says 3 13RD and it did come with three 13 rd. mags. It was brand new but the trigger lock wasn't in the box, but I didn't notice it until I got home with it.

Blue Label
Sold to Law Enforcement and bunches of others at a discount price that are on a list that I don't have at the moment.

Red Label
Glock Refurbished. Possibly a Police trade in that has been gone through and refurbished and re-labeled by Glock and re-sold. Nothing wrong with it.

White Label
Factory Glocks sold at the regular price to civilians or those who are not on "the list" at full price.

SARDG
01-27-2013, 08:44
Blue Label
Sold to Law Enforcement and bunches of others at a discount price that are on a list that I don't have at the moment.

Red Label
Glock Refurbished. Possibly a Police trade in that has been gone through and refurbished and re-labeled by Glock and re-sold. Nothing wrong with it.

White Label
Factory Glocks sold at the regular price to civilians or those who are not on "the list" at full price.
Absolutelly not true.

Red Labels are guns that include mags that hold over 10 rounds. In a 10-rnd state you can get a White Label G17, otherwise civivians get a G17 with a Red Label.

MotoXXX
01-27-2013, 08:51
Blue Label
Sold to Law Enforcement and bunches of others at a discount price that are on a list that I don't have at the moment.

Red Label
Glock Refurbished. Possibly a Police trade in that has been gone through and refurbished and re-labeled by Glock and re-sold. Nothing wrong with it.

White Label
Factory Glocks sold at the regular price to civilians or those who are not on "the list" at full price.

Should I have paid full price for it if it is "refurbished "?
They wanted 585.00 for it and I gave them 550.00 cash plus 10.00 for the BG check and 40.00 for two boxes of Winchester Ranger 180 gr FMJ

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jupiter
01-27-2013, 08:52
Classic Arms in Cordova TN had a Gen 4 Glock 22 in the case yesterday with a note on the tag that said it came with 2 mags.

I know it was new because he uses yellow tags to show used and white to show new and it had a white tag.

I wasn't interested in it so I didn't say anything, with all of the people buying guns now that usually don't he will probably sell it that way no problem.

Koz

Thanks for the info Koz.
Spread the word far and wide about these POS!

M 7
01-27-2013, 08:55
To those dealers that are taking a mag out of the box and reselling it claiming that Glock only ships one mag.

It's called "stock splitting"- it's really just a nice term for "petty theft".

Glad to see that Glock takes a dim view of the practice.

MotoXXX
01-27-2013, 08:56
Absolutelly not true.

Red Labels are guns that include mags that hold over 10 rounds. In a 10-rnd state you can get a White Label G17, otherwise civivians get a G17 with a Red Label.

Looks like I may be calling Glock to find out. I wanted to shoot the damn thing today but I'm not going to if I may want to take it back. The bad thing is they have no more left and they said they have a two month wait to get more Glocks.

Opie 1 Kenopie
01-27-2013, 09:01
Looks like I may be calling Glock to find out. I wanted to shoot the damn thing today but I'm not going to if I may want to take it back. The bad thing is they have no more left and they said they have a two month wait to get more Glocks.

Moto, your Glock is fine. It's just like SARDG said, red label guns are still new, they just have hi-cap mags.

Opie 1 Kenopie
01-27-2013, 09:04
A very large gun store near me was once a Glock LE dealer and had a special room of blue label guns. They required ID before they would let you in there, but the price discount was well worth it. I bought several from these guys.

Found out soon after that they were taking their blue label guns (discounted from the factory, no federal excise tax) and putting them in the case for regular customers to buy at full retail. They quickly lost their partnership with Glock over that one.

ChrisJn
01-27-2013, 09:06
......
Red Label
Glock Refurbished. Possibly a Police trade in that has been gone through and refurbished and re-labeled by Glock and re-sold. Nothing wrong with it......

Where do you get this absolute rubbish information from?
NOT TRUE!

kodiakpb
01-27-2013, 09:10
Looks like I may be calling Glock to find out. I wanted to shoot the damn thing today but I'm not going to if I may want to take it back. The bad thing is they have no more left and they said they have a two month wait to get more Glocks.

Why would you take it back? You have a new pistol with three mags.

tango44
01-27-2013, 09:17
Tagged!

MotoXXX
01-27-2013, 09:24
Why would you take it back? You have a new pistol with three mags.


Because someone stated earlier it was "refurbished". I asked the store owner before buying it if it was new and he said "yes". Now from what most members here are claiming it is not a refurb gun, which in that case I wouldn't take it back. I don't know where the earlier poster got his onfo about red labels being refurb guns but others are saying that IS NOT true. I hope they are right.

ignantmike
01-27-2013, 09:28
Should I have paid full price for it if it is "refurbished "?
They wanted 585.00 for it and I gave them 550.00 cash plus 10.00 for the BG check and 40.00 for two boxes of Winchester Ranger 180 gr FMJ

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they charged you 10 bucks for the BG check?.....:wow:....i've never been charged

kodiakpb
01-27-2013, 09:36
Because someone stated earlier it was "refurbished". I asked the store owner before buying it if it was new and he said "yes". Now from what most members here are claiming it is not a refurb gun, which in that case I wouldn't take it back. I don't know where the earlier poster got his onfo about red labels being refurb guns but others are saying that IS NOT true. I hope they are right.

Red label Glock does not mean refurbished.

Your Glock is not a red box CPO (certified pre owned) Sig Sauer. This is exactly how information gets twisted on the Internet.

MotoXXX
01-27-2013, 09:52
they charged you 10 bucks for the BG check?.....:wow:....i've never been charged
As far as I know all FFL's in Oregon charge ten bucks for it, or at least I have been charged at three different dealers so far.

Red label Glock does not mean refurbished.

Your Glock is not a red box CPO (certified pre owned) Sig Sauer. This is exactly how information gets twisted on the Internet.

Thanks guys for clearing that up....I better go SHOOTING today!:banana:

MotoXXX
01-27-2013, 09:54
Red label Glock does not mean refurbished.

Your Glock is not a red box CPO (certified pre owned) Sig Sauer. This is exactly how information gets twisted on the Internet.

Hey Kodiak haven't you heard?....if it's on the internet it has to be true! LOL.

MotoXXX
01-27-2013, 09:55
Looks like a great bunch of peeps here though, glad I joined this forum!

4095fanatic
01-27-2013, 10:01
they charged you 10 bucks for the BG check?.....:wow:....i've never been charged

Maybe his state has a fee? In MD all regulated firearms (think AWB + handguns) come with a $10 state police background check.


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kodiakpb
01-27-2013, 10:18
Hey Kodiak haven't you heard?....if it's on the internet it has to be true! LOL.

Bonjour

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MotoXXX
01-27-2013, 10:24
Bonjour

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OMG that is a funny commercial!
Sorry!....:arg:

Cole125
01-27-2013, 12:12
Good, all those scum bag dealers out there can go pound sand.

NCHeel
01-27-2013, 12:34
Blue Label
Sold to Law Enforcement and bunches of others at a discount price that are on a list that I don't have at the moment.

Red Label
Glock Refurbished. Possibly a Police trade in that has been gone through and refurbished and re-labeled by Glock and re-sold. Nothing wrong with it.

White Label
Factory Glocks sold at the regular price to civilians or those who are not on "the list" at full price.Did you make this up or do you have a source to site. Guess the last 2 brand new GLOCKS I bought are actually refurbished.:upeyes:

Opie 1 Kenopie
01-27-2013, 12:46
Did you make this up or do you have a source to site. Guess the last 2 brand new GLOCKS I bought are actually refurbished.:upeyes:

I think his Screen name says it all. It's frustrating to hear Internet rumors thrown out as fact. Even worse to hear new shooters believe them.

1) racking a shotgun will scare away intruders. Stupid.
2) you don't need to aim a shotgun. Irresponsible and stupid.
3) a CCW class is all the training you need. Silly.
4) empty chamber carry is the safest method. Dangerous.
5) 9mm is all I need against bad guys cuz I'll just put my shots right where I want them. :rofl:

Slingnasty
01-27-2013, 12:57
I have purchased two NIB Glocks niether one came with 3 maqs ,I was unaware that it was supposed to .Thanks for the info. this will not happen to me a 3rd time.

cmb
01-27-2013, 13:20
I have a new 27 'ordered', my gunshop doesn't have their gen 4's yet. Would the 27 come with 3 mags or did I hear the subcompacts only have 2?

SARDG
01-27-2013, 13:23
I have purchased two NIB Glocks niether one came with 3 maqs ,I was unaware that it was supposed to .Thanks for the info. this will not happen to me a 3rd time.
Long story short - if it's supposed to come with 3 mags, that's what will be printed on the box label; if it's supposed to come with 2 mags, that will be printed on the label. Simple as that.

SARDG
01-27-2013, 13:26
I have a new 27 'ordered', my gunshop doesn't have their gen 4's yet. Would the 27 come with 3 mags or did I hear the subcompacts only have 2?
27 Gen3s come with 2 mags, 27 Gen4s with 3 mags. Read the label and make sure you get the quantity that the label says that Glock packed inside.

Moto seemed to get 3 mags (on his label) with a Red Label Gen3 G23. I don't know why unless Glock has become philanthropic lately.

basicblues
01-27-2013, 13:46
There should be penalties for dealers who participate in this type of thief.

thief

A person who steals, especially secretly or without open force.

SARDG
01-27-2013, 13:54
There should be penalties for dealers who participate in this type of thief.

thief

A person who steals, especially secretly or without open force.
They participate in verbs or adverbs. They are nouns.

Nightkast22
01-27-2013, 14:04
I'm not sure if Mega Sports is doing that in IL, but they wouldn't let anyone buy glock magazines unless you bought a gun from them. I thought that was really crappy and they marked them up a ton.

basicblues
01-27-2013, 14:47
They participate in verbs or adverbs. They are nouns.

Yep! Thief, Theft and Thievery all nouns. Speaking directly of the dealers who have stolen unjustly.

chemcmndr
01-27-2013, 20:02
The first blue label Glock I bought was a Gen 3 G34 earlier this month. When I opened it up to look, it had four 17 round magazines. Needless to say, I didn't question it.

JLe˛dhas
01-27-2013, 20:29
Thanks for sharing this. I am going tomorrow to get me a G23 Gen4 pistol. I decided last week to get one, I will make sure I get three mags with it.

spcwes
01-27-2013, 22:05
We had a gunshop do something very much the same. The shop did not have a LE distributorship of Sigs and I being the nice LE I am brought in our rep to set them up. It didn't cost them a thing and we could at the time buy 220, 229, and 226 handguns for $685 with siglite ns and 3 mags direct.

I was there when the rep came in to explain the conditions of the sales and how the LE guns could be sold to individuals at full MSRP or what ever the shop wanted to make which the LE guns gave them a MUCH larger profit margin to begin with. The other condition was great, if a LE, EMT or FF purchased the weapon with proper id they got them at LE price and there was a big fat period put on that.

The woman that owned the store needed a buy in so about 9 officers purchased sigs so she could get it and she took orders from everyone and had them shipped and then charged everyone $859.00 per gun. Most ate the extra charge but she explained to us she could not charge less because of the extra charges for NS and the additional magazine which came at ZERO charge to her. Her normal dealer price was over $700 before this deal.

She lost her LE dealership in less than a month. Also she was taking one of the 3 mags out of the case and selling them on the side for like $30 each on civilian deals.

cowboy1964
01-28-2013, 06:15
Took them long enough.

IllinoisGun
01-28-2013, 08:53
Buyer beware.

And crooked gun shops should be ashamed of themselves. Shame, shame!

ERay
01-28-2013, 09:42
OK at the risk of being hanged here I am going to add a little perspective from the gun dealers side. I ran a gun shop last year. While I have never removed the extra mag from a Glock, I used to keep two Ruger P95 pistols in the case. The tag on one said $325 with two mags. The tag on the other said $299 with one mag. Many customers are not gunpeople and only want an affordable handgun for home protection. They prefer the lower price over the extra mag. My cost was $280 so there was no way I could stay open and sell it with two mags for $299. Sold more of the $299 guns than the $325 guns and never lost a nights sleep.

cmb
01-28-2013, 15:50
OK at the risk of being hanged here I am going to add a little perspective from the gun dealers side. I ran a gun shop last year. While I have never removed the extra mag from a Glock, I used to keep two Ruger P95 pistols in the case. The tag on one said $325 with two mags. The tag on the other said $299 with one mag. Many customers are not gunpeople and only want an affordable handgun for home protection. They prefer the lower price over the extra mag. My cost was $280 so there was no way I could stay open and sell it with two mags for $299. Sold more of the $299 guns than the $325 guns and never lost a nights sleep.You weren't STEALING mags that were supposed to be included in the price.You were offering buyers a choice and charged accordingly.I printed a few of Glock's letters. When I pick up my Gen 4, if there's only 2 mags ,all I'm gonna do "first" ,is push the letter across the counter to the shop owner; what happens next is HIS choice.

1927
01-28-2013, 18:32
if there's only 2 mags ,all I'm gonna do "first" ,is push the letter across the counter to the shop owner; what happens next is HIS choice.

I like your style, I was thinking the same thing

johnson8861
01-28-2013, 20:02
Blue Label
Sold to Law Enforcement and bunches of others at a discount price that are on a list that I don't have at the moment.

Red Label
Glock Refurbished. Possibly a Police trade in that has been gone through and refurbished and re-labeled by Glock and re-sold. Nothing wrong with it.

White Label
Factory Glocks sold at the regular price to civilians or those who are not on "the list" at full price.
WRONG!
blue label is 3 full capacity mags for the selected groups
red label through gen3 was two full capacity mags
white label came with 2 ten or less round mags
flaws with this system: I dont know what models 30, 36, 37, 38, and 39 come labeled as since they are full capacity at under 10 rounds
Blue labels also may come with 2 mags if they are sub compact.

Firecop203
01-29-2013, 06:12
Did you make this up or do you have a source to site. Guess the last 2 brand new GLOCKS I bought are actually refurbished.:upeyes:

That is what the Glock instructor told the class at the last Armorers school I went to.

SARDG
01-29-2013, 06:45
That is what the Glock instructor told the class at the last Armorers school I went to.
I think you misunderstood. Who was the instructor?

AIRASSAULT18B
01-29-2013, 06:49
That is what the Glock instructor told the class at the last Armorers school I went to.

Now you can inform him of his error.

NCHeel
01-29-2013, 20:08
That is what the Glock instructor told the class at the last Armorers school I went to.Sounds like a misunderstanding, who was the instructor so we can verify he has the correct info?

LibertyToad
02-02-2013, 07:30
There was a guy that posted recently that he had bought a gen 4 that should have had 3 hicap mags and came with 2 10 rounders, he was asked the name of the LGS but he wouldn't give it up. This would stop me from buying from them ever again. I would like to see Glock start pulling dealerships and posting the names of the thieves that are stealing from the customers. Like they are not already overcharging for everything now anyway. I know there are a few good ones left but most are pure crooks.

Eli

That's a shame. He's protecting the LGS that cheated him. I don't understand that at all.....

KI0HO
02-02-2013, 09:19
I just picked up a G-21 at Pistol Plus in Osage beach Mo. and it had two 13 round mags with it......:embarassed: ......The wife and I both felt right comfortable in the shop,very plesant folks to work with........still waiting on her G19......

The shop was very clean, and welcoming......and seemed to us to be very well stocked....would recomend them to anyone in the area......

SC Tiger
02-02-2013, 10:28
Because someone stated earlier it was "refurbished". I asked the store owner before buying it if it was new and he said "yes". Now from what most members here are claiming it is not a refurb gun, which in that case I wouldn't take it back. I don't know where the earlier poster got his onfo about red labels being refurb guns but others are saying that IS NOT true. I hope they are right.

IIRC Glock Refurbished guns have a silver tag on the triggerguard as well that says - you guessed it - Glock Refurbished.

I think a refurbished Glock actually has a longer warranty than a new one. Not sure though.

jaxxx
02-02-2013, 10:47
Shootersjax did that to a buddy on mine

MrMunster
02-02-2013, 10:51
Refurb Glocks say "Refurb" on the case label and, as previously indicated, should have the silver label on the trigger guard.

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FloorPoor
02-02-2013, 21:59
I've seen a couple less than honest shops doing that with used glocks. Pulling the extra mags and marking them at $45 and trying to sell the gun with only one mag, at above new price.

These are also the same guys who still have .223 in stock because they have 20 rd boxes marked at $22, and bare basic bushmasters for $1,500. I'm a capitalist, but greedy, dishonest, capitalists give us a bad name.

I won't buy anything from shops like these.

Zelesnik G17
02-03-2013, 07:54
I see a lot of bad shops exist with a lot of unscrupulous owners. What I haven't seen is a lot of names of those shops. If your getting screwed over how about names? Without names, it's all bull****.

ninjarobotpirate
05-22-2013, 13:12
I think my LGS is doing this. I'm debating on rather or not I should call Glock customer service.

OrGlocker
05-22-2013, 13:24
I know Sig did this awhile back and it came back and bit them in the @$$.

Angry Fist
05-22-2013, 18:21
I just picked up a G-21 at Pistol Plus in Osage beach Mo. and it had two 13 round mags with it......:embarassed: ......The wife and I both felt right comfortable in the shop,very plesant folks to work with........still waiting on her G19......

The shop was very clean, and welcoming......and seemed to us to be very well stocked....would recomend them to anyone in the area......
The museums in it are nice, and the range is too. I used to shoot there a lot.

JWG_34
05-22-2013, 18:59
Blue Label
Sold to Law Enforcement and bunches of others at a discount price that are on a list that I don't have at the moment.

Red Label
Glock Refurbished. Possibly a Police trade in that has been gone through and refurbished and re-labeled by Glock and re-sold. Nothing wrong with it.

White Label
Factory Glocks sold at the regular price to civilians or those who are not on "the list" at full price.

I bought a G34 brand new red label, 2 hi-caps mags,this gun was brand new. no refurbished here

The Pirate
05-22-2013, 19:06
I know Sig did this awhile back and it came back and bit them in the @$$.

I'd like to know what happened?

Thanks


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BobPistol
05-22-2013, 20:45
I wonder if they will take action on complaints.

byf43
05-23-2013, 13:00
Blue Label
Sold to Law Enforcement and bunches of others at a discount price that are on a list that I don't have at the moment.

Red Label
Glock Refurbished. Possibly a Police trade in that has been gone through and refurbished and re-labeled by Glock and re-sold. Nothing wrong with it.

White Label
Factory Glocks sold at the regular price to civilians or those who are not on "the list" at full price.

As others have pointed out, the information in boldface is dead wrong.

"Red Label" Glock(s) are NEW pistols that come with two (2) standard capacity magazines, from the last assembly point.
These firearms are NOT re-furbs. Again, they are NEW.

"White Label" Glock(s) are NEW pistols that come with two (2) 10 round capacity magazines, from the last assembly point.
These firearms are NOT re-furbs. Again, they are NEW.



Did you make this up or do you have a source to site. Guess the last 2 brand new GLOCKS I bought are actually refurbished.:upeyes:


That is what the Glock instructor told the class at the last Armorers school I went to.

Please tell me (PM if you wish) who the instructor was, in the class you attended, and where you attended the class, and the date.

This is BAD, WRONG information, and who/whomever told you this is incorrect, or you MAY have possibly heard something different than what was said.
(Believe me..... my wife accuses me of that, all the time!):rofl:

SCC
05-23-2013, 18:34
Because someone stated earlier it was "refurbished". I asked the store owner before buying it if it was new and he said "yes". Now from what most members here are claiming it is not a refurb gun, which in that case I wouldn't take it back. I don't know where the earlier poster got his onfo about red labels being refurb guns but others are saying that IS NOT true. I hope they are right.
TAKE THE SLIDE OFF IF IT IS A REFERB IT WILL HAVE A STAMP IN THE FRONT OF THE FRAME ( DUST COVER ) MY 19 HAS A 7 ... THAT HOW YOU TELL IT IS A REFURB :wavey:

OneAverageWhiteGuy
05-23-2013, 19:14
Not sure why anyone would need to bring this letter in to a dealer to prove how many mags are supposed to come with the gun, it says right on the label how many are included.