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MustangDaddy
01-28-2013, 22:58
Over the years I have owned several Glocks in 9mm, .40, and .45. I went into my local gun store with the intention of walking out with another Glock 22 or 17. I ended up walking out with a Glock 31. Took it out this past weekend and ran a couple hundred rounds through it......what a sweet pistola! Definitely liking this one....a keeper for sure. :cool:
http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/gg529/TOB152/glock_zps8ff018f1.jpg

roberev
01-28-2013, 23:05
Great choice. I have become a major fan of Glock in .357 Sig.

Personally, I stay away from the Winchester white box ammo though, which has a propensity for keyholing.

Rob

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MustangDaddy
01-28-2013, 23:09
Normally I stay away from this as well.......but with the current climate, this was the only available ammo to go shooting with at the time. I keep it loaded up with Winchester Ranger 125gr JHP's for daily carry. :cool:

unit1069
01-28-2013, 23:12
Congratulations. I absolutely love the only Glock I own, a G-32.

MustangDaddy
01-28-2013, 23:15
Congratulations. My absolutely love the only Glock I own, a G-32.

Thanks...I went into the range session ready to dislike it and go back to another Glock 22 afterwards. But after I was finished I decided that this caliber and model is a keeper. The only negative I can see at this point is the cost of ammo vs. 9mm and .40, but I can live with the difference in price!

thinktwice
01-28-2013, 23:18
I am really a big fan if the 357 Sig round. Once you shoot it enough you will see that you are shooting it more accurately than you shoot with just about any other caliber. Or at least I did. I am sure you will love it Congrats!!

MustangDaddy
01-28-2013, 23:23
I am really a big fan if the 357 Sig round. Once you shoot it enough you will see that you are shooting it more accurately than you shoot with just about any other caliber. Or at least I did. I am sure you will love it Congrats!!

Thanks!! I really enjoy this round and pistol combo. To me it feels like a stout 9mm +P+ through my G17, but loud like my .38 Super! LOL
Very accurate and enjoyable to shoot. :smoking:

Ben B
01-29-2013, 08:59
Normally I stay away from this as well.......but with the current climate, this was the only available ammo to go shooting with at the time. I keep it loaded up with Winchester Ranger 125gr JHP's for daily carry. :cool:

Underwood has it back in stock. Cheaper, cleaner, and more accurate atleast in my 32. Also really big difference when you pull the trigger.

FYRELT
01-29-2013, 09:11
congratulation,you will love the 357 sig,i have a gen4 32 and a gen3 33,put my gen4 26 in the safe and carry the 33 with le gd rounds,injoy.:wow:

jeffreybehr
01-29-2013, 10:15
Congratulations. My absolutely love the only Glock I own, a G-32.

Me too but a 31G4. :supergrin:

BMiracletx
01-29-2013, 10:17
I am really a big fan if the 357 Sig round. Once you shoot it enough you will see that you are shooting it more accurately than you shoot with just about any other caliber. Or at least I did. I am sure you will love it Congrats!!

My experience exactly. Even with reloading, it seems the 357SIG is inherently accurate. Just about every load I try works good! I have loads downloaded to 9mm spec, and full power ones that all shoot the same!

TheGlockTalker
01-29-2013, 11:39
Is anyone using the 357 Sig to carry, like the G33 for example?
I'm a little reluctant because of all the over penetration horror stories I've heard so I have stayed with the 26 because of that.

BMiracletx
01-29-2013, 12:29
Is anyone using the 357 Sig to carry, like the G33 for example?
I'm a little reluctant because of all the over penetration horror stories I've heard so I have stayed with the 26 because of that.

I will sometimes carry 357SIG when I am kayaking or boating, or if going to be in the woods and not taking my 10mm (I want the penetration if talking wild animals or boats, etc). For typical everyday carry I keep to my 9mm, 40, or 45 (Auto or GAP).

But, the 357SIG with 125gr bullets only penetrates a few more inches than the others... I would think it would still be okay for "social" use. Over penetration is only bad if you are in a crowded setting and have to use it.

SiberianErik
01-29-2013, 12:32
Is anyone using the 357 Sig to carry, like the G33 for example?
I'm a little reluctant because of all the over penetration horror stories I've heard so I have stayed with the 26 because of that.

I ccw my 33 every so often. It is my last Glock I own, well that and the G20.

I hate the WWB as it is soooo dirty as well. For JHP I use the Win PDX1 line. We have about 800 boxes of it at work right now.
:wow:

1canvas
01-29-2013, 12:46
Is anyone using the 357 Sig to carry, like the G33 for example?
I'm a little reluctant because of all the over penetration horror stories I've heard so I have stayed with the 26 because of that.

over penatration is over rated, it depends on the bullet and the load used. check out the ammo penetration specs from speer, federal, and winchester, and compare them with other popular calibers. you will see in most cases the increase in gel test are minimal in comparison.
for me I mostly carry HSTs in 125grn in public cause they expand very well. for the woods I carry Gold Dot 125grn for a little more penetration. I stay with ammo from the top three ammo companies cause they provide all the performance I need.
in reality they only provide 100-200fps over the 9mm depending on the gun and ammo. from what I remember in a 26 9mm to a 33 357sig in the Gold Dot line I believe you are a little over 100fps gain.
my point is the sig is more powerfull than the 9mm in loads from the big three ammo manufactures but not so much to worry about over penetration.

mrsig
01-29-2013, 12:49
I have come to love my 32 as well. Just put some green Truglo's on it as well. I agree with the white box but that that was one of the few boxes of any ammo at Walmart this week. Any time I see any .357 sig ammo I pick it up. I like the 357 sig so much I bought .357 sig barrel for my Sig 229 .40 as well.

bac1023
01-29-2013, 12:53
Congrats on the G31.

The 357Sig is a great round. :cool:

MustangDaddy
01-29-2013, 16:44
Thanks to all you guys for the input and info.....good to be back on here after a time away. Looking forward to putting more rounds down range with the new Glock....now Im gonna need a couple more to keep it company.....lol :supergrin:

Catshooter
01-29-2013, 17:02
I had never considered a 357 Sig seriously until just recently. A friend traded his gen 2 G19 for a 31. We shot WW box through it. My my does she shoot flat! We were shooting at a small silhouette at about 80 yards, he with his AK, me with his 31. I hit it seven or eight times out of the first mag which was more than he was.

Interesting piece.


Cat

MustangDaddy
01-29-2013, 17:09
I agree Cat.....very cool cartridge and pistol!

ak103k
01-29-2013, 17:25
in reality they only provide 100-200fps over the 9mm depending on the gun and ammo. from what I remember in a 26 9mm to a 33 357sig in the Gold Dot line I believe you are a little over 100fps gain.
my point is the sig is more powerfull than the 9mm in loads from the big three ammo manufactures but not so much to worry about over penetration.
Reality is, 357SIG performance is basically the same as 9mm +P+. Other than maybe a little extra noise from the 357SIG, if you were shooting either out of the 31, you wouldnt know which was which shooting wise.


One thing to keep an eye on with the 31 is the underside of the slide where the locking block tends to hit it. My 31 was beating itself to death here, and showed no signs of slowing down, though I was told by a number of people it would. It was peening the slide pretty heavily, and it was deforming the slide enough, that you could easily cut your finger on the sharp edges if you ran your finger across them with just a little pressure.

My one 17, which has more +P+ 9mm through it at this point than my 31 had 357SIG, shows only some minor finish wear in the same spot.

357SIG ammo was at one point, the eact same price as .40, when you bought it by the case. I bought a lot of both when it was $250/1000. I sold both off when 357SIG hit close to $600/1000 and .40 wasnt to far behind, back during the last "shortage". Made out quite well too. I know its come back down some, but its still pretty pricey.

Even reloading aint all that cheap these days, especially since they use caliber specific bullets that tend to cost a good bit more. You can use some 9mm bullets, if the profile is right, but most arent. 147 grain bullets are closer to the correct profile, but I never had any luck with them accuracy wise. My guns always shot best using Speer 125 grain 357SIG TMJ's over AA #9.

M1fuzz
01-29-2013, 17:36
My 40 G22 does the same thing to the slide as your 357 was. No biggie. It will stop. Glock won't replace ubless cracked. There are 124 or 125 grain 9mm bullets that fit the needed profile for the round. I use Missouri Bullets IDPA #6 with good luck. Have gotten good accuracy with 147 grain using AAC#9. Been using Bullseye with good results lately. To original op, good choice in caliber or gun.

jeffreybehr
01-29-2013, 17:39
Is anyone using the 357 Sig to carry, like the G33 for example?
I'm a little reluctant because of all the over penetration horror stories I've heard so I have stayed with the 26 because of that.

I carry a 5.2"-barreled 31G4. What over-penetration? Only if you use FMJs, and only an idiot would use them for PD.

dkf
01-29-2013, 17:45
Is anyone using the 357 Sig to carry, like the G33 for example?
I'm a little reluctant because of all the over penetration horror stories I've heard so I have stayed with the 26 because of that.

I have the 31, 32 and 33 but carry the 33 the most. You don't really have to worry about over penetration with most of the major manufacturer JHPs.

However in the G33 you may want to stay away from the GD 54234 and the 147gr Hornady custom and tap loads. Those will most likely go well over 18". The Federal HST is the best round I have found for the G33 and it works great in the 31 and 32 also.

A HST I shot out my G33 into wetpack expanded to an average of .700" and did not over penetrate.

Rev.357
01-29-2013, 19:14
The G31 is my #1 gun & the more you shoot it the more you will love it! Have fun :wavey:

AustinTx
01-29-2013, 19:21
Thanks...I went into the range session ready to dislike it and go back to another Glock 22 afterwards. But after I was finished I decided that this caliber and model is a keeper. The only negative I can see at this point is the cost of ammo vs. 9mm and .40, but I can live with the difference in price!

Buy a 40 S&W barrel, of your choice and you won't need a G22.

warner41
01-29-2013, 19:26
I picked up a new Gen4 G22 upper with the intent of buying a Gen4 G31 soon. The 31 will definitely be my next complete purchase. Parts to finish some other builds I have in the works is another story.

Chowser
01-29-2013, 21:22
recently replaced my 4 year old gen3 31 with a gen4 31. threw the gen3 back in the department's armory.


still carrying a gen3 32 or gen3 33 for off-duty. will probably put those in storage and get the gen4 32 and gen4 33.

Meanie5470
01-29-2013, 21:43
I love .357 sig. I have a g31 barrel that I use in my g22. The .357 and .40 mags are the same too. Might be good to know if youre looking for mags because g22 mags are way more common.

Meanie5470
01-29-2013, 21:45
I picked up a new Gen4 G22 upper with the intent of buying a Gen4 G31 soon. The 31 will definitely be my next complete purchase. Parts to finish some other builds I have in the works is another story.
The g31 and g22 are identical aside from the barrel. Thats the only thing you need to swap to shoot the other caliber. Mags are the same too.

roberev
02-02-2013, 04:25
G33 with Federal HST is my EDC. I am not overly concerned with over penetration given that the Virginia State Police and Richmond Police both carry this caliber. I have defended police officers involved in shootings using this caliber and never have seen anything in the medical records or ballistics reports that indicated overpenetration.

Rob

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legalsten
02-02-2013, 05:00
I bought a 32 C to carry and had it shipped to a local FFL . While it was being shipped I found a 33 and just had to have it. They had a used mag for a 32 with the sleeve so it fit the 33 . It is my main carry gun now .

I bought the 357 because it is a really good cartridge and I hadn't planned on reloading for it. Most say that a bottle neck cartridge feeds better than the others so chance of a FTF is slim. I can easily go to a 40 with a barrel and a 9mm with a conversion barrel and magazine.

I did get a good deal on a 36 so I will have to carry it for a few days .

AustinTx
02-02-2013, 22:28
I love .357 sig. I have a g31 barrel that I use in my g22. The .357 and .40 mags are the same too. Might be good to know if youre looking for mags because g22 mags are way more common.

G22 mags are, way, more common. There weren't any pre-ban 357 SIG mags made, for the common people. I had to use G22 mags, for over 10 rounds.

TACLOAD
02-03-2013, 00:00
20SF with a 357 Sig barrel. Soft shooting!

Racefan
02-22-2013, 19:15
The g31 and g22 are identical aside from the barrel. Thats the only thing you need to swap to shoot the other caliber. Mags are the same too.

This is the info I was looking for - I'm mainly focusing on having plenty of 9mm around for my G19 and G26, but I want a third gun that's flexible on caliber for situations where 9mm gets hard to find. I also want to try a "full size" frame Glock.

So the G31 can shoot .40 with only a barrel change with either G31 or G22 mags? Can it also shoot 9mm with a barrel and G19 15-round mags, or will it need G17 mags?

legalsten
02-22-2013, 20:55
As long as you get a conversion barrel. They are a larger outside diameter to fit the 40 / 357 slide. They do something so the 9 works with the 357 & 40 ejector . Not sure what .

You will need G 17 mags , the others are too short . On the bright side the G 17 mags will work in your others .

MustangDaddy
03-08-2013, 20:20
Well....gave the .357 Sig a try....liked it alot but didn't see the justification for keeping it vs .40SW. The cost of and availability of ammo as compared to the .40 ultimately lead me to get rid of the new G31 and go back to the good ole .40 G22. My 9's and .40 have always and still continue to serve me well for my needs and I will just stick with them.

Giggity-Giggity
03-09-2013, 00:47
Congrats! I'm a fan too. Nice and clean:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/Gregdog/Pin%20Ups/DSCN3861.jpg

The Gemini
03-09-2013, 01:59
Sooooo, in a six week period, you go from having a "keeper for sure", to getting rid of it? During the craziest time in history concerning guns/ammunition cost & availability?

Wow.


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MustangDaddy
03-09-2013, 02:29
Sooooo, in a six week period, you go from having a "keeper for sure", to getting rid of it? During the craziest time in history concerning guns/ammunition cost & availability?

Wow.


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Yup.....Your point of ammo cost and availability was one of my reasons for switching back to .40 from the .357Sig as stated in my post. The .40 is more available and alot cheaper in my area......WOW

TxGlock9
03-09-2013, 02:30
Sooooo, in a six week period, you go from having a "keeper for sure", to getting rid of it? During the craziest time in history concerning guns/ammunition cost & availability?

Wow.


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Whatever works for the guy, I suppose.

justherenow
03-09-2013, 03:32
In my area, I'm finding 357sig more than 40 and about the same price as 40. I love my 32, I carry it often, more than my brand new 1911

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packinaglock
03-09-2013, 05:27
I gave the 357 sig a try about six months ago and I'm still rockin it. After buying my EDC gen three G32, I bought a G32 barrel for my gen four G23. I can also use it in my gen four G27. I really like the round, it has some get up and go but I seem to be able to get back on target quicker than the .40 cal.

rangerabn
03-09-2013, 07:10
You might be interested in this story: I was with several friends at a gun range a few months ago, and one of them had never shot a handgun before. Between all of us, we had over 20 different handguns, from several Glocks, several S&W, revolvers, Berettas, you name it.
The novice used almost all of them, but when he shot with the Glock 31 he said "You know, for some reason, this one shoots the best and feels better in my hand than anything."
A lot of people feel the same way, myself included. My everyday carry is a G32, but I shoot the best with my G31.

j3x
03-09-2013, 07:46
Thanks...I went into the range session ready to dislike it and go back to another Glock 22 afterwards. But after I was finished I decided that this caliber and model is a keeper. The only negative I can see at this point is the cost of ammo vs. 9mm and .40, but I can live with the difference in price!

Find you a G22 barrel and shoot 40 through it to save $$ if it is cheaper in your area.

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Cineski
03-09-2013, 07:55
For those with slide peening problems, why not put a stiffer recoil spring in? Especially when using stout ammo? Would make it easier for follow-up shots as well. When I had my G20, I was running a 23 pound aftermarket recoil spring and it still could have been heavier. Only shot 10 rounds with the factory spring because the slide really slammed hard against the frame. With the aftermarket spring, spent casings were still ending up 15 feet back but the recoil was tamed a lot. IIRC, the stock spring is the same with the 9/357/40 but I'm not sure what the weight of the stock spring is. Only makes sense to have a stiffer spring with higher velocity ammo.

AustinTx
03-09-2013, 11:57
For those with slide peening problems, why not put a stiffer recoil spring in? Especially when using stout ammo? Would make it easier for follow-up shots as well. When I had my G20, I was running a 23 pound aftermarket recoil spring and it still could have been heavier. Only shot 10 rounds with the factory spring because the slide really slammed hard against the frame. With the aftermarket spring, spent casings were still ending up 15 feet back but the recoil was tamed a lot. IIRC, the stock spring is the same with the 9/357/40 but I'm not sure what the weight of the stock spring is. Only makes sense to have a stiffer spring with higher velocity ammo.

That's some excellent advice. The stock spring was 17# at one time, for all full size Glocks.

I always carry a Glock, with the OEM recoil spring, but use a 20# for the range. The 20# works great with weak 9mm, even. I'm probably going to investigate a heavier spring for the 357 and 40, at least a 22#.

Glockcubed
03-25-2013, 17:37
I just ordered a G31gen4 with tru glows and +2 mags. It will be about 6 weeks. I can't wait to add it to my carry rotation. I have the 357 magnum in a revolver and love to shoot it. I am thinking it will be a "truck" gun.:supergrin: