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jeffreybehr
01-30-2013, 12:56
http://www.ammoman.com/p/304/357-sig-125-grain-gold-dot-hollow-point-54234
...and they have lots more in stock.

Ordered it Sunday; UPS has it today, and I'll have it probably Monday.

Am waiting for SGAmmo.com to get Winchester Ranger Bonded back in stock; will try that too.

I guess I'll be carrying factory ammo for PD if either of these is as 100% reliable as my reloads.
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k220/jeffreybehr/Shooting%20stuff/2013Jan30_2PDreloads_1000w.jpg

NitLion
01-30-2013, 18:13
Nothing like that door bell ringing and the dog barking when it is the UPS man bringing ammo!!!! Enjoy!!:thumbsup:

Poohgyrr
01-30-2013, 18:37
Great. I picked up some Gold Dots from SG before last Nov.. Good ammo.

DeLo
01-30-2013, 20:12
Very nice, I just saw them last night and bookmarked that page. I haven't dealt with them before and was a little tentative to order.

Snapper2
02-01-2013, 17:42
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k220/jeffreybehr/Shooting%20stuff/2013Jan30_2PDreloads_1000w.jpg
What brand crimp die you using? :cool:

jeffreybehr
02-01-2013, 19:19
What brand crimp die you using? :cool:

Original (stock) Lee 3-piece die set. I set the seating/crimp die to have a distinct pressure at the shell's height without belling the case--but then I run ALL my COMPLETED reloads thru an empty .40-cal sizing die anyway.

As you can see, I outside-chamfer all case mouths; that seems to help them feed more easily. All my reloads, with XTP124s, Barnes TAC-XP125s, or Montana Gold 125HPs, feed and function absolutely perfectly. Both former loads achieve about 1400FPS 10-foot velocities from a 5.2" barrel; my practice loads* achieve about 1300FPS.

* in which I use all the powders I bought a pound of and then rejected for PD loads. Currently I'm consuming VV 3N37.

Snapper2
02-01-2013, 19:44
Original (stock) Lee 3-piece die set. I set the seating/crimp die to have a distinct pressure at the shell's height without belling the case--but then I run ALL my reloads thru an empty .40-cal sizing die anyway.

As you can see, I outside-chamfer all case mouths; that seems to help them feed more easily. All my reloads, with XTP124s, Barnes TAC-XP125s, or Montana Gold 125HPs, feed and function absolutely perfectly. Both former loads achieve about 1400FPS 10-foot velocities from a 5.2" barrel; my practice loads* achieve about 1300FPS.

* in which I use all the powders I bought a pound of and then rejected for PD loads. Currently I'm consuming VV 3N37.
I might give that outside chamfer a try.:cool: I've used up all my universal for targets. I'm trying out accurate arms #5 now. I do have a lb. of vv3n38 but with no data for 357sig.

jeffreybehr
02-06-2013, 18:35
The first 500-case arrived today, on schedule. I write 'first' because I ordered another 500 last WE...and after manually cycling 61 cartridges thru 4 magz of my 31G4 and having them function perfectly, I ordered another thousand this afternoon. :whistling:

Ain't they perdy!!!!!!
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k220/jeffreybehr/Shooting%20stuff/2013Feb06_4GD54234s_1000w_zps7574f38c.jpg

JackMac
02-06-2013, 19:03
ammoman is a good supplier, free shipping

silversport
02-07-2013, 06:46
good info to know...thanks

Bill

redbaron007
02-07-2013, 09:14
Ordered 500 rounds of 'Canned Heat' from Georgia-Arms for practice, last Monday, Jan 28th. According to UPS, they are arriving today. :supergrin:

If you're interested, the web site will not let you order; however, if you call and speak to a customer service rep, you can place an order. When I ordered mine, they indicated it could take 4-8 weeks for the FMJ; the Speer HPs would take longer.

Life is Good!

:wavey:

red

_The_Shadow
02-07-2013, 17:01
jeffreybehr, That should hold you till the end of the month! He, he, he... LOL

Those Speer casings have smaller flash holes than any other make, I drill them out to be uniform with other makes!

It seems not as many people are using this cartridge as they once did!

jeffreybehr
02-07-2013, 18:02
Tested these Speer GoldDots #54234 this afternoon using my Glock 31Gen4.

Velocities at 10' average screen distance, 10-shot samples:
...With 5.2" StormLake barrel--1384FPS, SD 6.0, ES 20.
...With stock 4.6" barrel--1356FPS, SD 3.0, ES 12.
Recognizing that Speer quotes muzzle velocity (1375FPS), these numbers make sense. The Standard-Deviation and Extreme-Spread numbers are VERY good.

Expansion tests in a series of four 1-gallon waterjugs with 4 or 8 layers of denin taped to the front of the first jug, shot from 10 feet:
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k220/jeffreybehr/Shooting%20stuff/2013Feb07_3GoldDotsfront_1280w_zps827db2c6.jpg
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k220/jeffreybehr/Shooting%20stuff/2013Feb07_3GoldDotsrear_1280w_zps83d66a8b.jpg
Lightest bullet weighed 123.4g; the 3 averaged 124 grains, which makes the weight loss less than 1%. 'Diameters' were 0.58", 0.60", and 0.62 inches. The 4 versus 8 layers of denin made no apparent difference.

Muzzleflash is virtually nonexistant.
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k220/jeffreybehr/Shooting%20stuff/GD54234-3_3000wlabeled_1280w_zpsddad6dc3.jpg

I shot about 40 rounds; they functioned 100% reliably. I'm pleased.

Also, my experimentation with these GoldDot 125s, the Hornady XTP124s, and the Barnes TAC-XP125s show that all 3 bullets perform excellently, and I'd be proud to carry any of them. Now, I'll be carrying the GoldDots. :supergrin:

NitLion
02-07-2013, 19:50
Awesome report!! Thanks. I guess your water jugs don"t become ice jugs there? Freezing rain and snow here tomorrow......again....

jeffreybehr
02-07-2013, 20:02
Awesome report!! Thanks. I guess your water jugs don"t become ice jugs there? Freezing rain and snow here tomorrow......again....

YVW.

No ice in Phoenix; it rarely gets down to freezing. But when it's maybe 80dF. in Penn., it's maybe 110dF. here.

One added point--over the years I've shot many GoldDots into waterjugs; they are highly consistent in their expansion and weight retention.
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k220/jeffreybehr/Shooting%20stuff/GoldDots6expanded_1000w.jpg

PghJim
02-16-2013, 00:49
Tested these Speer GoldDots #54234 this afternoon using my Glock 31Gen4.

Velocities at 10' average screen distance, 10-shot samples:
...With 5.2" StormLake barrel--1384FPS, SD 6.0, ES 20.
...With stock 4.6" barrel--1356FPS, SD 3.0, ES 12.
Recognizing that Speer quotes muzzle velocity (1375FPS), these numbers make sense. The Standard-Deviation and Extreme-Spread numbers are VERY good.

Expansion tests in a series of four 1-gallon waterjugs with 4 or 8 layers of denin taped to the front of the first jug, shot from 10 feet:
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k220/jeffreybehr/Shooting%20stuff/2013Feb07_3GoldDotsfront_1280w_zps827db2c6.jpg
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k220/jeffreybehr/Shooting%20stuff/2013Feb07_3GoldDotsrear_1280w_zps83d66a8b.jpg
Lightest bullet weighed 123.4g; the 3 averaged 124 grains, which makes the weight loss less than 1%. 'Diameters' were 0.58", 0.60", and 0.62 inches. The 4 versus 8 layers of denin made no apparent difference.

Muzzleflash is virtually nonexistant.
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k220/jeffreybehr/Shooting%20stuff/GD54234-3_3000wlabeled_1280w_zpsddad6dc3.jpg

I shot about 40 rounds; they functioned 100% reliably. I'm pleased.

Also, my experimentation with these GoldDot 125s, the Hornady XTP124s, and the Barnes TAC-XP125s show that all 3 bullets perform excellently, and I'd be proud to carry any of them. Now, I'll be carrying the GoldDots. :supergrin:

I am amazed at your results through denim. I have never seen over 0.56" in expansion through clothes for factory rounds, and I believe the FBI testing in gel through clothing was in the mid .50". The Underwood round does expands to about 0.64", but has much more velocity.

jeffreybehr
02-16-2013, 01:03
Have received all 3 shipments from Ammoman.com, and they have more left! Get 'em while they're here; I have a hunch they'll be a long time coming after these run out.

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k220/jeffreybehr/Shooting%20stuff/2013Feb15_357SIGammo_1000w_zps9dac5b02.jpg

I think I'll be selling (here) the Barnes TAC-XP 125g. bullets on the right.

NitLion
02-16-2013, 06:41
Have received all 3 shipments from Ammoman.com, and they have more left! Get 'em while they're here; I have a hunch they'll be a long time coming after these run out.

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k220/jeffreybehr/Shooting%20stuff/2013Feb15_357SIGammo_1000w_zps9dac5b02.jpg

I think I'll be selling (here) the Barnes TAC-XP 125g. bullets on the right.

Nice! Drooling here!! That's BETTER than money in the bank!!

Snapper2
03-06-2013, 14:31
http://www.ammoman.com/p/304/357-sig-125-grain-gold-dot-hollow-point-54234
...and they have lots more in stock.

Ordered it Sunday; UPS has it today, and I'll have it probably Monday.

Am waiting for SGAmmo.com to get Winchester Ranger Bonded back in stock; will try that too.

I guess I'll be carrying factory ammo for PD if either of these is as 100% reliable as my reloads.
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k220/jeffreybehr/Shooting%20stuff/2013Jan30_2PDreloads_1000w.jpg
I just received a 50rd box of the 54234. The OAL for each round varies a lot. Half of them measured 1.134,the other 1.127. The 20rd box(23918) that I have all measure 1.126 and function fine in my gen4 g23 out of a stormlake barrel.I'm half tempted to seat the whole box of 54234 to 1.126 and recrimp.:steamed: I might just fire a few of the longer bullets first to see how they function. They do seem to have a little wider hollowpoint though.

jeffreybehr
03-06-2013, 16:11
I just received a 50rd box of the 54234. The OAL for each round varies a lot. Half of them measured 1.134,the other 1.127. The 20rd box(23918) that I have all measure 1.126 and function fine in my gen4 g23 out of a stormlake barrel.I'm half tempted to seat the whole box of 54234 to 1.126 and recrimp.:steamed: I might just fire a few of the longer bullets first to see how they function. They do seem to have a little wider hollowpoint though.

All I know is that my new #54234 ammo functions perfectly in my 31Gen4.

BTW Ammotogo.com has Remington 357SIG Golden Saber Bonded 125s in stock by the 50box...$40...or the 500case...$396, both plus shipping. I ordered a 500case.

Snapper2
03-06-2013, 16:31
BTW Ammotogo.com has Reminton 357SIG Golden Saber Bonded 125s in stock by the 50box...$40...or the 500case...$396, both plus shipping. I ordered a 500case.
I ordered a 50rd box a few weeks ago(month wait).:cool: And SGammo has the pdx1 which is the same as ranger bonded.