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splitfinger09
02-03-2013, 20:15
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I am having trouble concealing my G17. The grip of the gun is printing pretty bad. I plan on getting something smaller in the future, but for now this is all I got. I hear talk about position as in 12 O'clock and so forth. Im not sure I completely understand this. Based on this picture am I carrying in the 5 O'clock position? Any ideas would be apprecited to carry the G17 better concealed. Thanks for the help.

Marshall Dillon
02-03-2013, 20:20
If you can move it forward to that belt loop / side seam of your pants you could probably make it work. It's up to you whether it's comfortable there or not.

Hamrhed
02-03-2013, 20:23
I like the carry position you have for your 17, but you will print in that position- especially with a full size Glock. Until you get a smaller model, it may be easier to get more concealment in the appendix position- iow the front side of your hip

sglock45
02-03-2013, 21:18
I conceal a 17 in an oldfaitfull holster try them there cheap and you can put them together yourself

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davsco
02-03-2013, 21:22
look a specific concealment holster, maybe at the galco "concealable" to get an idea. basically they cant (rotate it so muzzle is more rearward than in the straight up and down position) the gun so that the butt is pressing against the centerline of your body or slightly aft. downside is the draw is more difficult, but everything is a tradeoff.

KI0HO
02-03-2013, 21:22
I carry a 21 in a smart carry...it works fine for me.......might give that a try

BenjiEDF
02-03-2013, 21:24
Your holster sucks, get a Kholster/Galco Kingtuck/Crossbreed Supertuck or something like that. Leather backed with a kydex mold. The 17 is a great gun though it might be hard to conceal, the 19 is easier and the 26 is invisible.

caponec2
02-03-2013, 21:28
get a real holster

xmanhockey7
02-03-2013, 21:31
A holster with cant will help and larger fitting clothes or a 2nd layer like a button/zip up. Other than that I'd say go with a G26 or 19.

splitfinger09
02-03-2013, 21:54
I have heard such good things about the Remora line of holsters so I thought I would try them out. I have never carried a CCW before so I am new to all this. The oldfaithful holster looks pretty good. I might give that one a try. Also like I said im going with a G27 or something similar in the future, but with the prices of anything these days I will be sticking with the G17 for now.

ithaca_deerslayer
02-03-2013, 22:05
Simple to conceal it. Move it up to around 2 o'clock.

You don't want it on the point of your hip, and you don't want it behind your hip where it is now. Instead you want it in front of the point of your hip.

I have a 17 and a 26. Obviously the 26 carries better, but the 17 will work too. I've got nearly identical kydex holsters for them, so they feel pretty much the same on me. Bending down to tie your shoes is when the 17 will print but the 26 won't.

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caponec2
02-03-2013, 22:12
I have heard such good things about the Remora line of holsters so I thought I would try them out. I have never carried a CCW before so I am new to all this. The oldfaithful holster looks pretty good. I might give that one a try. Also like I said im going with a G27 or something similar in the future, but with the prices of anything these days I will be sticking with the G17 for now.

i like your reply, so im going to tell you exactly what I did..

remora is a great company.. i tried them out in the past.. however I wouldnt use that as my edc holster... more like a spur of the moment/sweat pants/gym shorts holster.. get it?

order a crossbreed supertuck for your glock 17... and also order a milt sparks versa max II at the same time.

the crossbreed will come in about 6-7 weeks.. you'll enjoy it..

the VMII will come in about 6-7 months.. you will sell every other holster you have





i carry a g21 in my VMII

skyboss_4evr
02-03-2013, 22:12
Like others have already said, that holster sure isn't helping your cause.

TSAX
02-03-2013, 22:32
You got 2 main choices and some out the box options.

1. Try different holsters and carry positions on the belt until you feel comfortable. Crossbreed Holsters give you a 2 week trial period so if you dont like it you can return it and just lose out like $8 in shipping. I use their Supertuck model and its great. There are also other good companies out there but I cant speak too much about their return policy.

2. Switch to a G19 (you mentioned later)

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Unorthodox but people have successfully done these

3. Get a grip chop, turning the G17 grip into a G19 grip that will accept G19 mags. Places like Cold Bore Customs and Burwell do them with great reputations.

4. Trade the G17 in for a G19 or sell the G17 to fund the G19 or buy a G19 then sell the G17 so your not without a gun.




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splitfinger09
02-03-2013, 22:40
Thanks for everyones responses. Seems like I need to just experiment with different holsters and find the right one for me. I have thought about selling the G17 to fund the purchase of the G19 or something smaller, but I just dont want to part with it. Its my first handgun and it is an RTF2 model so kinda unique. Again thanks for all the help!

ithaca_deerslayer
02-03-2013, 22:43
Thanks for everyones responses. Seems like I need to just experiment with different holsters and find the right one for me. I have thought about selling the G17 to fund the purchase of the G19 or something smaller, but I just dont want to part with it. Its my first handgun and it is an RTF2 model so kinda unique. Again thanks for all the help!

Don't sell. Save up money and buy a 26 someday. In the meantime just slide the 17 to 2 o'clock and give that a try :)




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poikilotrm
02-03-2013, 22:49
You can always do like I do and dress like a rag bag.

datnvan
02-03-2013, 22:55
grip that big i like to sit the bulk of the gun, i.e. slide and receiver, as deep as possible and cant it forward. used to carry a fullsize m&p. now have g19 and g26. get a holster with adjustable cant and height and customize to the way you like. my vote is comptac minotaur. adjustable tension as well. has served me well the past 3 years.

ViennaGambit
02-03-2013, 23:00
A forward cant will help BIG TIME!

Or just wear an open button down shirt and watch bending forward.

I'm 5'8 and CCW a 17 quite often at 4 o'clock with an open button down covering - yes its not invisible to a trained eye, but 99% of people will not notice.

ViennaGambit
02-03-2013, 23:06
In the meantime just slide the 17 to 2 o'clock and tr it that way...


How do you sit down or drive carrying that way?

ithaca_deerslayer
02-03-2013, 23:26
How do you sit down or drive carrying that way?

As you mentioned, a forward canted angle is good, and you just have to find the sweet spot.

Let the barrel and the bottom of the grip go to 3:00 or 3:30, just as long as they are not printing. The top of the slide might be at 2:00 or 2:30 or whatever works for you.

Personally, no matter the gun, I never understood the 4:00 to 5:00 carry. That's the print zone, and you can't see what is going on behind you. Easier for someone to see and take your gun, and farther for you to reach, and you definitely don't want your arm pinned back there in a struggle :)

That's my personal opinion, and I know a lot of people carry back there so many will think I'm nuts and all wrong.

It is a matter of personal preference. But if printing behind 3:00 is a problem, then try in front of 3:00 :)

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up1911fan
02-04-2013, 00:04
You need a real holster.

Mad Ryan
02-04-2013, 00:12
I can conceal my G-34 easy enough in the same spot with a Comp Tac Minotaur.

Get a real holster.

Lior
02-04-2013, 03:18
When you carry IWB with a cover garment over it, you chances of being "made" by laypeople in public are close to nil, even with a G17.

Lowjiber
02-04-2013, 06:14
Your holster sucks, get a Kholster/Galco Kingtuck/Crossbreed Supertuck or something like that. Leather backed with a kydex mold. The 17 is a great gun though it might be hard to conceal, the 19 is easier and the 26 is invisible.
I agree with the holster statement above. I think that's a Remora. While they're fine in their place, it's not a five o'clock with a gun that's already hard to conceal. Since you've yet to get a 26 (truly invisible IWB at 4:00), you'll have better luck if the gun is moved around to four o'clock'ish in a holster that puts a forward cant on the gun.

Just my $0.02 worth.

Bren
02-04-2013, 06:28
I have to say, that holster is only a step above the guy who made one with cardboard and duct tape.

happyguy
02-04-2013, 06:48
Get a serious belt and a new holster. It won't be cheap but it will work if you experiment with carry positions. Of course the G17 will take a little more work than a 19 or 26, but it can be done, even by you skinny guys.


Regards,
Comrade Happyguy :)

redbaron007
02-04-2013, 09:46
I have the Remora and use it for my G26/G32. It works fine for those guns; although, depending on what I'm doing, it may not be the best holster, but to throw on and head out for a short period, it's not bad.

I personally have not carried the G17 IWB, I've carried (when I owned one) in OWB and un-tucked shirt, mainly used the Glock sport combat holster.

Unfortunately you will need to move it around and try different holsters.

:wavey:

red

Gaston Glock
02-04-2013, 21:27
I carry a G17 everyday....Crossbreed supertuck with proper cant @ 4:00....also carry a Beretta BU4 Nano. Love my 17 and will always own one, Nano is replaceable for future super concealable, but never give up the 17...

GG

Gaston Glock
02-04-2013, 21:28
I have to say, that holster is only a step above the guy who made one with cardboard and duct tape.
Spot on...

GG

Badger54
02-04-2013, 23:39
I think your biggest issue is your holster. I'm 5' 10" 180lbs and carry a 22 or 21 with no issues. Usually in a serpa or MTAC.

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High Altitude
02-05-2013, 05:58
Get a good holster.

To hide a pistol with a large grip you need to have lots of forward cant and carry it around 4-5 oclock.

Full size 1911 in pic.

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c141/myphotos27/140DC050-B87D-4280-A716-8910FB4FEC0E-7674-000009EDC3AA3B80_zps86ae8b31.jpg

splitfinger09
02-05-2013, 08:23
Get a good holster.

To hide a pistol with a large grip you need to have lots of forward cant and carry it around 4-5 oclock.

Full size 1911 in pic.

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c141/myphotos27/140DC050-B87D-4280-A716-8910FB4FEC0E-7674-000009EDC3AA3B80_zps86ae8b31.jpg

Awesome thank you for the picture. At this point I think it's quite obvious what I need to do. Than you all for the replies. Anymore holster recommendations or pics post em up.

SCmasterblaster
02-05-2013, 09:20
Try carrying a G19 - the grip is half an inch shorter, but the barrel is also half an inch shorter . . .

SCmasterblaster
02-05-2013, 09:22
I carry a G17 everyday....Crossbreed supertuck with proper cant @ 4:00....also carry a Beretta BU4 Nano. Love my 17 and will always own one, Nano is replaceable for future super concealable, but never give up the 17...

GG

True. I carry my G17 every day also here in VT. :cool:

expatman
02-05-2013, 10:39
These two holsters work excellent with my G17. Carry anywhere from 11 o'clock to 2 o'clock and it disappears like magic.

You will also have much better luck with any quality holster other than what you have pictured. Get one with a cant and it works much better behind your hip at 3:30 to 5 o'clock.

Raven Concealment Systems Vanguard 2 - YouTube

The Original MIC Holster for the Glock Safe Action Pistol - YouTube

High Altitude
02-05-2013, 14:21
Awesome thank you for the picture. At this point I think it's quite obvious what I need to do. Than you all for the replies. Anymore holster recommendations or pics post em up.

Look at theis holsters. That style holster is very comfortable, affordable and will fit any small frame glock (9mm .40 357sig) so if you get a smaller glock the holster will fit.

http://theisholsters.com/

Don't forget a quality gun belt. Makes a big difference.

coachg
02-05-2013, 14:29
Take a look at the banner on my website www.pjholster.com That's my G22 with a 30 deg forward cant. It really works well to hide the grip on the bigger guns.

Paul

Sharkey
02-05-2013, 15:02
All the comments about getting a real holster are so helpful. :whistling:

In that position, a G17 in any holster still might print. Holster choice, body makeup, holster positioning, gun type all matter.

Cheap way? Cut the grip to make it a G19 and get G19 magazines (though that might not be so cheap after all right now) Move to appendix position like some have said.

C5A
02-05-2013, 15:32
I carry my G22 in a Kholster IWB at 4:00 with a forward cant and it is very comfortable but will print a little when I lean way forward.

4Rules
02-05-2013, 18:38
Holster "Pain" Glock 23
http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1418321

Concealed Carry
http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1450495

Looking for an AIWB holster
http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1454496

IWB Conceal Suggestions
http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1454693

Gun Belts
http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1462967

Rustin
02-06-2013, 11:59
If you carry Appendicx inside the waist (AIWB), which is about 12:00-1:00, any full sized gun can dissapear. Here is a link to a very informative thread on the topic.

http://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?120-AIWB-(Appendix-Carry)

Appendix carry is faster, and more secure than any other position. Just be sure not to holster in a hurry!

beforeobamabans
02-06-2013, 16:59
Your holster sucks

get a real holster

A holster with cant will help

Here's your problem. Get a real holster. Since I prefer custom leather and you sound like someone who doesn't want to spend a lot, I'd recommend you look into Nick Mathews' NM Holsters. He will make you a great 3-4:00 IWB with the exaggerated cant required to position the grip properly.

Leather rocks.

splitfinger09
02-06-2013, 17:20
Thank you for everyone's reply. I do understand that the holster I'm using isn't made for deep concealment of a G17 with jeans. I am going to get a real holster now :) I am the type of person who is willing to pay for quality and comfort. It's sounds like there are an endless supply of good quality holsters out there. When I find the perfect one for me I will leave some feedback. On a side note thank you to those who did not just post "your holster sucks." Thanks again!

GlockN
02-06-2013, 20:18
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I am having trouble concealing my G17. The grip of the gun is printing pretty bad. I plan on getting something smaller in the future, but for now this is all I got. I hear talk about position as in 12 O'clock and so forth. Im not sure I completely understand this. Based on this picture am I carrying in the 5 O'clock position? Any ideas would be apprecited to carry the G17 better concealed. Thanks for the help.

based on the whole set up, I'd say you are from CA.

splitfinger09
02-06-2013, 20:23
based on the whole set up, I'd say you are from CA.

That's 17+1 there bud ;)

sugarcreek
02-06-2013, 20:28
Get a good holster.

To hide a pistol with a large grip you need to have lots of forward cant and carry it around 4-5 oclock.

Full size 1911 in pic.

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c141/myphotos27/140DC050-B87D-4280-A716-8910FB4FEC0E-7674-000009EDC3AA3B80_zps86ae8b31.jpg

I have 5 of these for various guns... Gary is good and his wife is a gem!!!

splitfinger09
02-06-2013, 20:32
The Beltman told me about Garrett Industries silent thunder line of holsters. Has anyone had any experience with these holsters?

Stvan1
02-06-2013, 21:11
If you want to carry a full size Glock like that you need to start eating more double cheeseburgers, Biggie fries and a shake.
Seriously though get a decent holster I like my Comp Tac Infidel Ultra for my Glock 22 but there are many many out there.

KI0HO
02-06-2013, 21:31
Have you thought about a smart carry??? when I first saw it I said noway....but after getting used to it I wont use anything else!!!!! works on the tractor, out doing chores ect...and with a suit on[when Im forced!!!] Once you get used to it it is a quick draw ...no problem.....and hell most of us have plenty of room down there anyway!!!!:dunno:The wife said so!!!!!:steamed:

Badger54
02-07-2013, 02:23
Thank you for everyone's reply. I do understand that the holster I'm using isn't made for deep concealment of a G17 with jeans. I am going to get a real holster now :) I am the type of person who is willing to pay for quality and comfort. It's sounds like there are an endless supply of good quality holsters out there. When I find the perfect one for me I will leave some feedback. On a side note thank you to those who did not just post "your holster sucks." Thanks again!

Don't forget a good gun belt to complement the new holster. A good quality holster and gun belt will make all the difference. :wavey:

SuckMyGlockk
02-09-2013, 01:25
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I am having trouble concealing my G17. The grip of the gun is printing pretty bad. I plan on getting something smaller in the future, but for now this is all I got. I hear talk about position as in 12 O'clock and so forth. Im not sure I completely understand this. Based on this picture am I carrying in the 5 O'clock position? Any ideas would be apprecited to carry the G17 better concealed. Thanks for the help.


:wow: try the king tuk IWB. i love it. keeps it nice and tight to my body. i have a stocky frame though as i used to wrestle in highschool, kickbox and jiu jitsu throughout college. position it near where your elbow hangs. it will hide shadows and with your current holster in this picture, keep the gun tighter to your body. i would try again like i said a king tuk from galco, or a crossbreed king tuk, something like that. great for IWB.

SuckMyGlockk
02-09-2013, 01:27
also you are wearing your pants too low, cant wear them like a gangsta if you wanna conceal well. or have it have nice positioning and tightness to your body for a nice draw out of the holster. go GALCO king tuk!!!

SCmasterblaster
02-10-2013, 15:24
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z84/splitfinger09/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_2208_zps333e5179.jpg

I am having trouble concealing my G17. The grip of the gun is printing pretty bad. I plan on getting something smaller in the future, but for now this is all I got. I hear talk about position as in 12 O'clock and so forth. Im not sure I completely understand this. Based on this picture am I carrying in the 5 O'clock position? Any ideas would be apprecited to carry the G17 better concealed. Thanks for the help.

Have you thought of appendix carry?

SuckMyGlockk
02-10-2013, 15:52
get a king tuk kinnd of holster and pull your pants up!

SCmasterblaster
02-10-2013, 16:24
get a king tuk kinnd of holster and pull your pants up!

:supergrin::supergrin::supergrin::supergrin::rofl:

SuckMyGlockk
02-10-2013, 16:34
:supergrin::supergrin::supergrin::supergrin::rofl:

haha im serious! when i got home from the gun store with my glock 17 i thought it concealed like ****. so i started losing weight and that didnt work. but when i pulled my pants up it conceals really well. your ass/hip bone pushes the grip out instead, when you wear your pants right the belt and holster suck the gun to your abdomen if your wear them at the right level. i can conceal 2 mags and the gun just fine with a tee shirt and a button up tee over it. you dont have to lose weight to conceal better, it just makes carrying more comfortable. if your too skinny, start doing some shoulder and pec workouts to make your shirt kind of drape down instead of be shrink rap tight. Im 5'6'' and 215 losing fat every day and putting muscle on. look like a stocky high school wrestler and i conceal fine with the 17

BADOS
02-11-2013, 08:00
The only way I could ever throughly conceal my Glock 17 was to get a Galco Jackass system and dress accordingly. Now, my Glock 27 is concealed in my back pocket using a Ramora #6 holster with NO PRINT.

SuckMyGlockk
02-11-2013, 10:03
The only way I could ever throughly conceal my Glock 17 was to get a Galco Jackass system and dress accordingly. Now, my Glock 27 is concealed in my back pocket using a Ramora #6 holster with NO PRINT.

my mom carries the families glock 26 so winter and summer we are going to switch. summer i carry the 26 on my waist and winter the 17 on my waist, and she will carry the 26 in her purse in the winter and the 17 in the summer. tryin to convince her that purse carry is terrible. too much to do beofre you can pull out your gun. anyway, it depends how gun crazy you are. i like the 17 because i feel supremely safe with 18 rounds on my waist and riding on a motorcycle tends not to be safe. i live in florida and there are some not so safe areas. sometimes i feel like im gonna get pushed off my bike and its going to get robbed. fort pierce has taken a big hit from the recession as well as oxys and pain killers. people are starting to go crazy and do anythnig for money. the other day a crazy man drove across town crashing into people and shooting a gun, ended up on my college campus and returned fire with a police officer and a bystander got shot. really hate going to school as its a gun free zone. but i carry my holster and magazine holsters empty just to show how stupid a gun free zone is. :whistling: