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JRoCc
02-04-2013, 18:44
One by one they go.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2985330/posts

janice6
02-04-2013, 18:48
Like I said. Politicians can be bought, we have to buy some to represent us.

QNman
02-04-2013, 19:25
Like I said. Politicians can be bought, we have to buy some to represent us.

We should take a lesson from Carnegie, Rockefeller and Morgan...

Brucev
02-04-2013, 19:30
It's ohio. Since when has ohio ever been anything other than a den infested with left-wing liberals?

QNman
02-04-2013, 19:34
Our Dem governor is salivating at the opportunity to offer his support to Obama. Thankfully, we're 2/3 Republican in the state houses.

pugman
02-05-2013, 06:40
Politicans are always in survival mode - not what can I do for those who I represent but what can I do to get reelected. You have a president which was reelected and is popular with 47% or more of the country - the other 53% are spending more time arguing amongst themselves then firing back like WE should.

American's landscape is slowly becoming more and more liberal/socialist/nanny state...however you want to describe it.

People are becoming lazier, dumber or just plain giving up. The American Dream is more like the American hangover

Then read the last line of this article which is probably the most damning..."who are caught between wanting to improve the lives of their constituents and to remain in good standing with the conservative movement"

America has become a "Now" society. Obamacare may improve the lives of some...now. Long term - it will be just enough hole in the dike of what will eventually be a huge wakeup call in the form of a federal collaspe.

The governor's response is simply like a dog going after a bone...and O is there to pat him on the head "good boy..."

jeanderson
02-05-2013, 10:42
It's ohio. Since when has ohio ever been anything other than a den infested with left-wing liberals?
It think it's a bit unfair to say Ohio has always been left-wing. Slowly, over the last couple of decades, Ohio has drifted from center-right to center-left. Pretty much like the rest of the country. It's why we're watched so closely in elections - we're a pretty good representation of the entire country.

And yeah, Kasich is starting to piss me off!

SPIN2010
02-05-2013, 10:46
... anybody in Texas providing refuge? I can work for food.

Three more months and my kid is out of HS ... I hope I can make it. Ohio is DOA.

Cavalry Doc
02-05-2013, 11:07
... anybody in Texas providing refuge? I can work for food.

Three more months and my kid is out of HS ... I hope I can make it. Ohio is DOA.

I grew up in High School. Good friend of mine that I've known since we were four, grew up together lives just a couple of miles from me in Texas. There is a migration.

I just wish we could give a political test to new arrivals, and not allow entry to liberals unless they agree to stay in certain liberal reservations, preferably in another state.

plainsman
02-05-2013, 11:40
Sure it's pie in the sky bullfeathers, it should be for$ 20,000. for a family! Most people given a choice would never pay that , and would have choices in a free market.

Looks like they can't steal enough to fund yobabacare. They have to dump people on state medicaid programs,( that's us taxpayers) rob billions from Medicare,etc, to pay for 30 million deadbeats who won't spend a dime for their own health care, and 12 million more illegals waiting for amnesty so that they too can get their free medical card.

For all the rest of us, keep working and keep paying for socialist programs! Millions of deadbeats depend on you!

Black&TAN
02-05-2013, 11:55
In the days following the CT shooting, despite expected opposition, Kasich signed pro gun legislation in Ohio.
I’m a Second Amendment supporter and that’s not going to change. There are a range of issues at play here involving mental health, school security and a culture that at times fails to reject the glorification of violence that can desensitize us to the sanctity and majesty of life. Going forward, we need to pay close attention to what the experts conclude from this incident in order to see if there are lessons to be learned and applied here in Ohio," said Kasich.
While in Congress he supported the AWB in '94, however is apparently well aware of political climate in Ohio when it comes to 2A rights.

Although I am far from convinced he will be a staunch advocate moving forward, he does deserve a bit of credit for supporting HB 495, to benefit of CCW statewide.

EDIT: BTW, with regards to OP, just trying to look for the light in the train tunnel... helps to get past the fact much of Ohio is still going down the toilet.

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pugman
02-05-2013, 11:57
Sure it's pie in the sky bullfeathers, it should be for$ 20,000. for a family! Most people given a choice would never pay that , and would have choices in a free market.

Looks like they can't steal enough to fund yobabacare. They have to dump people on state medicaid programs,( that's us taxpayers) rob billions from Medicare,etc, to pay for 30 million deadbeats who won't spend a dime for their own health care, and 12 million more illegals waiting for amnesty so that they too can get their free medical card.

For all the rest of us, keep working, get prepared and keep paying for socialist programs! Millions of deadbeats depend on you!

I work for a major health insurance provider. I'm not blue and I don't quack but I am UNITED in wishing ObamaCare would just disappear along with the other 53%

All good things must end. Obamacare, social security, medicare/aid all have a shelf life. SS is insolvent by 2025. Medicare absorbed 20% of 2012 federal income; by 2020 its estimated to eat up 40%. In order for it to keep pace with income, federal revenues will need to exceed $5 trillion dollars in seven years or increase by 206%

I've corrected your statement-its going to be a rough ride

Bren
02-05-2013, 12:03
What's the up side of Obama Care's expansion of the requirements for Medicaid? Where I work, most of our prison inmates now get Medicaid, WHILE still in prison, so you can pay for their serious care at outside hospitals, when they get stabbed or get hepatitis from a new tattoo, instead of us having to pay it from the state budget.:rofl:

nursetim
02-05-2013, 14:04
What's the up side of Obama Care's expansion of the requirements for Medicaid? Where I work, most of our prison inmates now get Medicaid, WHILE still in prison, so you can pay for their serious care at outside hospitals, when they get stabbed or get hepatitis from a new tattoo, instead of us having to pay it from the state budget.:rofl:

The company I used to work for self insured the convicts from what they got from the state. No coding, no billing. I told the convicts that the care they got in prison will be the care they could look forward to upon release. They were not enthused.:supergrin:

GAFinch
02-06-2013, 17:16
Kasich caving in on this just prompted Rep. Gov. Snyder of Michigan to follow suit.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/michigan-medicaid-expansion/2013/02/06/id/489215


What's the up side of Obama Care's expansion of the requirements for Medicaid?

The expansion will be paid 100% by the federal government for the first 3 years and 90% after that. It's a short-term cost savings for the state since they won't be reimbursing hospitals for as much uninsured care (100,000's of people in each state) but it's at the expense of our national deficit/debt. These governors are deluded if they think that the 90% level will continue for very long at all.

IvanVic
02-06-2013, 17:19
All of the states will accept it, bet your bottom dollar. They'll basically be forced to do so.


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pugman
02-06-2013, 19:26
What's the up side of Obama Care's expansion of the requirements for Medicaid?

The expansion will be paid 100% by the federal government for the first 3 years and 90% after that. It's a short-term cost savings for the state since they won't be reimbursing hospitals for as much uninsured care (100,000's of people in each state) but it's at the expense of our national deficit/debt. These governors are deluded if they think that the 90% level will continue for very long at all.

The "upside" is the warm, fuzzy feeling b.s'ed to Americans saying well now these people will be paying into the system which is crap. It is the equivalent of saying providing amenesty to illegals will now have them paying taxes. If you believe the latter, you believe the former.

I work for a major health insurance provider and have been involved with commerical contracting with some of the largest facility or physician groups in the country.

The only reason the AMA signed off on Obamacare was for the first two years it will reimburse at Medicare rates.

This is precisely what the largest physician group in California told me.

They will see these patients. Once the two year honeymoon is over they will be renegotiating fees with private and commerical payers; they plan on no longer seeing these ObamaCare patients, demanding higher rates from commerical insurance and in their own words "probably have an entire day to golf." They will see less patients but will be able to spend more time with them.

Their plan will most likely work to a degree. Large insurance providers want to contract specialists; it allows them to control who their insured sees...in a way its quality control.

ObamaCare (aka Medicaid) is the payer of last resort. There is a reason - their reimburse rates are extremely low compared to Medicare and private insurance.

All I know is if a facility opens tomororw which "specializes" in Obamacare patients they will have those doctors who went to medical school in Guam.