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High Altitude
02-13-2013, 01:36
My first firearm over 20 years ago was a Beretta 92f, then glocks and have always stayed with high capacity 9mms with a few .40 thrown in here and there.

I am looking for a full size 45acp. Besides just having fun shooting at the range, it could be possible I would use it for HD. I doubt I would CCW with it.

At first I was pretty set on a 1911 since a 1911 is THE .45 etc...., but the capacity of the glock 21 gen4 sure looks good.

Maybe a M&P or something with a threaded barrel.........

I don't know.

countrygun
02-13-2013, 02:12
If you don't go with a 1911, then I can't say enough about the XDM

Bruce M
02-13-2013, 06:55
One potential advantage with a 1911 is that one can be found from maybe a bit above 500 to 5000 so almost no matter the budget there is a gun for it.

ronin.45
02-13-2013, 07:10
The Glock 21sf is a good choice. I like it over the Gen 4 because of the extra accessories available. The XDm is a nice gun as well. Or you could always get a 625.

SGT HATRED
02-13-2013, 07:10
Can't go wrong with a Sig 220...

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q37/Merlin-X/2011-05-02082957-1.jpg

The_Gun_Guru
02-13-2013, 07:51
I bought a Rock Island Armory 1911-A1 for $360 plus shipping and transfer fee in 2005 or 2006. It has been absolutely flawless and it is a great guns for the money! The price has gone up a bit but it is still under $500 I believe :-)

like others have said, you can't go wrong with Glock or the XDM. Enjoy the hunt.....it's fun!


TGG

ca survivor
02-13-2013, 08:16
for range and HD, Springfield Range Officer.

Pier23
02-13-2013, 08:19
XDm and Sig 220 are both wonderful. Glock 21 is fine as a tool, always go bang, but I ENJOY the XDM and 220. As always, YMMV.

moonwilson
02-13-2013, 08:22
I like the SIG P220 a lot. I own a couple. The Dark Elite comes with full beavertail, fully adjustable sights and threaded barrel. I prefer the P220 to any other .45 I have ever shot or handled. They are ridiculously accurate and have superb ergos. Very "pointable" guns in my hand, especially with SIG's superb aluminum grips.

I had a Glock 21 SF but found it too blocky in my hands and not particularly accurate in my hands. Once I picked up my first P220, I gave the Glock 21 to my brother, who loves it. I have handled both the FN .45 tactical and the HK45 , they are both super nice. I would take either of those over the Glock- they just feel and handle much better. I do have a nice custom 1911 and don't particularly care for it.

For "best overall" .45, I pick the SIG P220.
For "best high capacity" .45, it's a toss up between the FN and the HK.

Don't get me wrong, I love Glocks, but not the 21. The Gen4 might be better than the SF of the Gen3 though, I haven't had the chance to mess with one yet.

Three-Five-Seven
02-13-2013, 08:24
Lots of competitive games use the John Browning 1911 pistol. I'd get a traditional 1911, or 1911 A1 for the most versatility.

Springfield Mil Spec or Colt's Series 70 are good choices.

brisk21
02-13-2013, 08:43
Take a look at the HK45. People say its too expensive, but it costs about as much as a mid-level 1911. It is probably the best handgun I've ever fired.

Beanie-Bean
02-13-2013, 08:47
I agree with the guys above:

SIG Sauer P220
H&K HK45

Both are great. If you can find one, the Ruger SR 1911 is an outstanding 1911 at a good price.

Beanie-Bean
02-13-2013, 08:50
I misread your post, thinking you didn't want to go with the G21...get one if you can find one!

The G21 Gen4 is my favorite Glock, and if you shoot one, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about.

Happy shooting!

donmor53
02-13-2013, 08:53
I love a good Colt 1911 and my Sig 220 ( I have both) but...the finest shooting .45 ACP service pistol that I have ever handled and shot is the FN Herstal FNP-45.

It has all the qualities and ammenities of any of the higher class weapons combined at a fairly reasonable price. They shoot fantastic.

fnfalman
02-13-2013, 10:10
Walk the alternate path: SW 625.


http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f308/fnfalman/Guns/SW%20625/DSC05843.jpg

arkdweller22
02-13-2013, 10:14
Take a look at the HK45. People say its too expensive, but it costs about as much as a mid-level 1911. It is probably the best handgun I've ever fired.

This. Amazing pistol, you won't be disappointed.


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SigFTW
02-13-2013, 10:15
Sig 220 is a good choice.

BigSpenda864
02-13-2013, 10:23
FNX .45 Tactical... can't go wrong with 15+1 rounds! Plus it's red dot and suppressor ready!
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSBKASryFzT4s-sm7kWaC81A2taHvnTHKFm1qE7P7fkcBk9pSbn3w

up1911fan
02-13-2013, 10:35
HK45 or P220.

86brick
02-13-2013, 11:06
P220.

njl
02-13-2013, 11:26
1911 if you want a classic design and easy trigger. 21sf if you want a .45 work horse. I've got both. The 1911 rarely leaves the safe.


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bac1023
02-13-2013, 12:10
A 1911 would be my first choice, but there are many great options in a full size 45 ACP.

ilgunguygt
02-13-2013, 12:15
The Springfield XD isnt bad, I have the 4" service model and its a solid, decent pistol. Trigger is most definately different from others, but easy to shoot well. My Glock21 was my first ever pistol, and I would never sell it. They certainly are a good firearm. The 1911 is a fine choice though.

If it were me, and I had a nice collection of Glocks, I would get the 1911. Just for something different than the rest. However, because you have that collection of Glocks you may want to stick with them, to keep things familiar. Thats something to think about.

sourdough44
02-13-2013, 16:00
For full sized I much prefer my HK-45 over my 1911, then there's the HK-45c.

ilgunguygt
02-13-2013, 16:09
FNX .45 Tactical... can't go wrong with 15+1 rounds! Plus it's red dot and suppressor ready!
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSBKASryFzT4s-sm7kWaC81A2taHvnTHKFm1qE7P7fkcBk9pSbn3w

Your username definately fits that suggestion!:rofl::wavey:

Very nice pistol though, would love to own one.

HKLovingIT
02-13-2013, 17:04
Glock 21 Gen4, M&P 45, USP 45

Pick one. They're all winners. :wavey:

21GlockStreet
02-13-2013, 17:43
Glock 21!!!! What else is there?

Wetrudgeon
02-13-2013, 17:52
We think every red blooded American should own at least one copy of Mr. John Moses Browning's venerable 1911A1 pistol.

We trudge on.

tackleberry518
02-13-2013, 18:04
1911 if you want a classic design and easy trigger. 21sf if you want a .45 work horse. I've got both. The 1911 rarely leaves the safe.

Ditto for me. I have both a Springfield Operator and G21SF. Love them both. I used to carry my 1911 at work but now I'm carrying the glock for the sake of more ammo on hand.

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barth
02-13-2013, 18:07
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bac1023
02-13-2013, 18:44
Glock 21!!!! What else is there?

Thankfully, quite a bit...

deputy tom
02-13-2013, 18:49
Springfield makes some great 1911s and the XD series is also a good choice. YMMV. tom.:wavey:

barth
02-13-2013, 18:53
http://aftermathgunclub.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/HK45-Tactical-TAN-right-1.jpg

ScottieG59
02-13-2013, 19:06
The Glock 21 Gen4 is a great choice for a full size 45 ACP. I made sure to stock up with lots of the 13 round magazines. Glocks are very reliable and easy to maintain.

There are many other options out there at various prices. You may want to rent a few options at a range.

New striker pistols will be different and you may want to consider features that matter to you or what your state mandates.

Personally, none of my carry guns have manual safeties. You might want one.

Right now, I carry polymer frame handguns. You might want something else.

I have medium/large hands and all Glocks fit me well. If you have smaller hands, you might want to check out the 45 GAP chambered Glock 37.

Dcrabtree
02-13-2013, 23:31
You should take a serious look at the Springfield Armory XD. I have had one as my HD gun for the last 5 years and it shoots perfect right out of the box. Out of all of my handguns I shoot the most accurately with my SA XD45. So far I have put about 1000-1200 rounds of cheap ammo through it with no issues.

daddysnapmuffins
02-14-2013, 05:57
HK45 or FN FNP45 are my top two.

21GlockStreet
02-14-2013, 07:16
Thankfully, quite a bit...

Sure there is...if you want to over pay for hype.:supergrin::supergrin:

alwaysshootin
02-14-2013, 08:18
Talk about things that are getting old, or you are tired of hearing. If you have lady hands, stay away, whatever you do, from a G21! No matter what you do, it won't work for you! Enough said. By all means, if you can get a chance to shoot one, do so! Again, if you have small hands it won't be comfortable, but if by chance you have a hand that can grasp, and shake a hand like a man, you will love a G21.

If you want to start at the bottom of the heap, in the 1911 market, with an imported, cast, 1911, by all means, get one of the Armscor offerings. A 1911 is special, and, all firearms enthusiasts, should own at least one. IMHO, one should start, at a minimum, with one of the Springfield offerings, and if you can swing it, a Kimber, is a step up, in the right direction.

All I can say is this, I have several 1911's in the safe, nowhere near, as many as others here, that have chimed in. Other than the XD version of 45 ACP, have shot, or owned every, other 45 mentioned. Someone mentioned this,

http://www.hk-usa.com/civilian_products/hk45ct_general.asp

If that floats your boat, more power to you. At half the price, I'll take a G21 everyday of the week, and a month of Sundays. End of days, end of time, carry, under the pillow, truck gun, in the tackle box? Make mine a G21! Generation matters not.:wavey:

brisk21
02-14-2013, 09:05
Glocks are awesome, 1911s are awsome. Its not a contest. We don't need to identify ourselves through the guns we buy.

The Retired Sarge
02-14-2013, 09:23
Another vote for the HK 45. No second thoughts. Bill

390ish
02-14-2013, 14:34
If you are not used to a 1911, no need in getting one. To me, I use a different part of my brain with a 1911 as compared to a Glock. I am not saying it is a separate skill set, but it kind of feels like it is. If you are used to a semi-auto, I would say your hands-down choice is a Sig P220. No need to buy new. Get one from Summit Gun Broker, new or used, great prices in my experience.

MLittle
02-14-2013, 16:54
If you are looking for your pistol as a da/sa I think the Sig P220 has a better trigger than the H&K45 and H&K45c. Both are equally accurate in my hands, but I like the Sig trigger much more. I'm not familiar with other trigger variations (i.e. Sigs DAK trigger and HK LEM trigger).

To me.....it's all about the trigger.......

21GlockStreet
02-14-2013, 18:43
I'm just being being facetious....more like devil's advocate...just to watch people get bent out of shape over their favorite gun. Shoot what works for you and have fun. I still love the G21.

I'M Glockamolie
02-14-2013, 19:04
If you don't go with a 1911, then I can't say enough about the XDM

Agreed 100%.

HK Dan
02-14-2013, 19:11
Mark 23 baby...LOLOLOL...Or a good used USP45 for $500

chewybaca67
02-14-2013, 19:31
I'm completely biased as a reloader. My .45 ACPs have to have 5" barrels. Shouldn't matter much really, but my choice. So I've had a few Kimbers in the past, pity I had to sell for my son's Montessori school tuition (the ex-wife's choice). Had an H&K Full size USP I got in 2000 and it was a fine (expensive gun). Have shot my brothers Sig 220 and that's definitely an under 5" barreled 45 I'd own. Currently have, and won't get rid of, my Plain Jane Springfield 1911 A1 WWII reissue. Something about the lack of bells and whistles and the simplicity of it that heats my passion (it's Valentine's Day, back off!). My bedside/house handgun is my beloved XD-45 Tac jobber. Got lots o' mags, night sights and it's a very easy/adaptable shooter!

bac1023
02-14-2013, 19:53
Mark 23 baby...LOLOLOL...Or a good used USP45 for $500

I love the Mark 23, actually. It's an awesome shooter.

ilgunguygt
02-14-2013, 20:25
Sure there is...if you want to over pay for hype.:supergrin::supergrin:
Are you really stupid enough to believe that, or is it just humor? If its humor, thats pretty funny!:wavey:

GlockFanWA
02-14-2013, 20:30
At first I was pretty set on a 1911 since a 1911 is THE .45 etc...., but the capacity of the glock 21 gen4 sure looks good.

Get what works for you. I love my Gen 4 G21.

willieH
02-15-2013, 02:12
You have been given many good choices. If at all possible fire the guns on your short list, if not, then at least put your hands on them at the gun shop. For me, the Sig P220 has qualities that allow very accurate shot placement.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y66/wlhutch/22/SigP220EliteDark.jpg

But for just plain fun, I like shooting the 1911's.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y66/wlhutch/22/TRPandSig1911s.jpg

Pier23
02-15-2013, 08:02
I'm completely biased as a reloader. My .45 ACPs have to have 5" barrels. Shouldn't matter much really, but my choice.

???

I am not yet reloading...why the 5" barrel requirement?

TH237
02-15-2013, 08:10
Just stay with Glock, G21, 13+1.

ilgunguygt
02-15-2013, 12:54
Just stay with Glock, G21, 13+1.
There is much more to a pistol besides capacity.

slowgoat
02-15-2013, 15:45
I want one of each of the recommended .45's!

TH237
02-15-2013, 15:53
There is much more to a pistol besides capacity.

You are absolutely correct, G21...
1. User friendly, just point and click.
2. Reliability of a revolver.
3. Rock solid, almost indestructible.
4. The stopping power of a sledge hammer.
Wait there's more...
As an added bonus you get 13+1 capacity.

countrygun
02-15-2013, 16:08
You are absolutely correct, G21...
1. User friendly, just point and click.
2. Reliability of a revolver.
3. Rock solid, almost indestructible.
4. The stopping power of a sledge hammer.
Wait there's more...
As an added bonus you get 13+1 capacity.

So, you've decided to become an XDM fan? Glad to have you aboard :wavey:

TH237
02-15-2013, 16:22
So, you've decided to become an XDM fan? Glad to have you aboard :wavey:

That is a great assumption............but it's wrong!!!!:supergrin:

ilgunguygt
02-15-2013, 16:23
You are absolutely correct, G21...
1. User friendly, just point and click.
2. Reliability of a revolver.
3. Rock solid, almost indestructible.
4. The stopping power of a sledge hammer.
Wait there's more...
As an added bonus you get 13+1 capacity.
If you really think a G21 is all of that, and any more reliable than any other quality handgun, you are crazy. I have owned a G21 a long time, its my first handgun I ever purchased, but its malfunctioned more than my xd has in the same amount of rounds. My RIA 1911 had more than 5k rounds fired from it and never failed once. The G21 is great, but not magical.

fnfalman
02-15-2013, 16:25
You are absolutely correct, G21...
1. User friendly, just point and click.
2. Reliability of a revolver.
3. Rock solid, almost indestructible.
4. The stopping power of a sledge hammer.
Wait there's more...
As an added bonus you get 13+1 capacity.

Can you wash it in a dishwasher?

TH237
02-15-2013, 16:34
If you really think a G21 is all of that, and any more reliable than any other quality handgun, you are crazy. I have owned a G21 a long time, its my first handgun I ever purchased, but its malfunctioned more than my xd has in the same amount of rounds. My RIA 1911 had more than 5k rounds fired from it and never failed once. The G21 is great, but not magical.

Well, my old 21 is actually my first Glock and I have no idea how many rounds it has had through it. It is a gen 2 and in my hands has never, yes I said never, had a malfunction. I've never owned an XD but I hear they are great. However it cannot be any more reliable than my Glock has been.
I don't know about your case...Glocks don't limp wrist too well. Yes I'm just yanking your chain.
I suppose I am crazy...crazy about Glocks. :cool:

TH237
02-15-2013, 16:35
Can you wash it in a dishwasher?

Absolutely, cant hurt Tupperware.

Kalmah
02-15-2013, 18:03
I bought a Springfield XD-45 Tactical a few months ago as a HD/nightstand gun. It's really too big to be practical for anything else. It's a good shooter, I really like it.





http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k105/schupo06/2012-11-11A.jpg

Dcrabtree
02-15-2013, 19:28
I bought a Springfield XD-45 Tactical a few months ago as a HD/nightstand gun. It's really too big to be practical for anything else. It's a good shooter, I really like it.





http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k105/schupo06/2012-11-11A.jpg

I don't know about you, but its hard for me to not shoot well with this gun. It's just so easy.

bigkrackers
02-15-2013, 19:34
You didn't mention price so Springfield TRP for 1911. HK45 for hi-cap and for the price conscience the M&P 45.

45caldan
02-16-2013, 09:14
If I was limited to only one handgun, it would STILL be a 1911....

Two Guns
02-16-2013, 09:52
Stick with the Glock 21.

Lvs1935
02-16-2013, 11:50
I've owned lots of Glocks ever since they were introduced. I have never owned one that I wouldn't have relied on for protection. I can also say the exact same thing for my Sigs,Beretta or Smith's. I have a Colt Combat Elite 45 I have owned since I was 21. Had it for 26 years now. I can't even imagine how many rounds its fired. It's just as reliable shooting SWC as FMJ. I wouldn't trade or sell that gun for anything. The bottom line is that we have many gun manufactures that put out quality product. It all comes down to personal preference. Nobody can tell you what gun is best for you. Guns are like Trucks. You will get a Chevy guy telling you Ford and Dodge are crap and vice versa.

HKLovingIT
02-16-2013, 12:19
I bought a Springfield XD-45 Tactical a few months ago as a HD/nightstand gun. It's really too big to be practical for anything else. It's a good shooter, I really like it.





http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k105/schupo06/2012-11-11A.jpg


I used to own one. It was solid.

WayneJessie
02-16-2013, 12:55
I have to vote for the FN models. Built here in the USA and built like a tank. Best full-size polymer gun going to me.

chewybaca67
02-16-2013, 13:20
???

I am not yet reloading...why the 5" barrel requirement?

Most 45 ACP defensive ammo is designed to function optimally at velocities attained by a 5" tube......Jini (that's 'Indin for "It is said"). 45 ACP don't have much velocity to begin with. So slowin' it down a wee bit, can affect ammo performance. With a 5" tube, one can have faith that almost any defensive 45 ACP ammo will preform well.

kalashluvr
02-16-2013, 13:30
FNP or FNX .45....I have both and they're phenomenal. 231256


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NEOH212
02-16-2013, 18:59
Sig, HK, or FNH.

Don't waste your money on anything less.

Pier23
02-16-2013, 19:46
Most 45 ACP defensive ammo is designed to function optimally at velocities attained by a 5" tube......Jini (that's 'Indin for "It is said"). 45 ACP don't have much velocity to begin with. So slowin' it down a wee bit, can affect ammo performance. With a 5" tube, one can have faith that almost any defensive 45 ACP ammo will preform well.

Ah, thanks...did not know that. I figured that if I punch a half-inch hole in someone that would suffice, regardless of barrel length....

brisk21
02-16-2013, 21:26
Sig, HK, or FNH.

Don't waste your money on anything less.


:rofl::rofl::rofl:Oh c'mon. Again with that crap?

bac1023
02-16-2013, 21:32
If I was limited to only one handgun, it would STILL be a 1911....

No doubt :)

Beretta92guy
02-17-2013, 06:23
after being "45-less" for a long time i finally got another one.....

I debated for a couple months between the G21sf and the XDm 45/4.5"........

went with the XDm and really enjoy it......has interchangeable backstraps which really make a difference in the feel of the grip, which was the deciding factor.......

trigger is good for stock, and i've run almost 1000 through it now without a malfunction

45caldan
02-17-2013, 08:32
FNP or FNX .45....I have both and they're phenomenal. 231256


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If I wanted a poly .45, this would be it!

Simpleman71
02-17-2013, 13:02
Another vote for P220. I have a P220 carry it is my favorite pistol. I want another in stainless.

cessnastud
02-17-2013, 13:26
There's full size and then there's HK full size. The HK45 is a big gun, but man alive, it's one heck of a gun. For me, the grip makes all the difference as compared to a 21. Magazine capacity is only 10+1 if that makes a difference to you. Mags and parts are significantly more expensive, however. At the end of the day though, if I could only have one .45, it'd be a 1911 without question. I'm partial to the Les Baer and Wilson Combat flavors.