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JerryVO
02-15-2013, 07:54
Does something even close exist. I need something very small for the few occasions when I can not dress around my G27s blockeyness. I looked at the Shield as it is thinner but it is still not quite small enough to do what I am looking for. I really like the size and feel of the Ruger LCP but the trigger pull is so long and heavy like a DAO revolver. Does something the size of the LCP but with a glock like trigger exist?

P.S. After a bad experience with my Kahr PM9 which I ended up selling that is not an option. It was also a heavier trigger anyway.

GreenDrake
02-15-2013, 08:26
Check out the Beretta Nano

Diesel McBadass
02-15-2013, 09:19
Check out the Beretta Nano

nanos quite big actually.

Pier23
02-15-2013, 09:25
Could a striker-fired system even fit in the size of an LCP?

Arguably,the long trigger pull of the LCP and KelTec P3AT is a primary safety system...you pose an interesting question.

rilkil23
02-15-2013, 22:15
Diamond Back? DB9.


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Dawolf
02-16-2013, 07:56
Walther PPS has a Glock trigger and is thinner than the Nano and the 26, but bigger. Maybe a XDs 9mm? I have not held one, yet, but might be a bit thinner than the XDs 45????

badge315
02-16-2013, 08:55
You're only going to find a Glock trigger on a Glock. That said, if you're looking for a compact striker-fired auto pistol, the various models from Kahr would seem to fit that requirement.

Nakanokalronin
02-16-2013, 10:03
You're only going to find a Glock trigger on a Glock. That said, if you're looking for a compact striker-fired auto pistol, the various models from Kahr would seem to fit that requirement.

The XDS is very close to having a Glock trigger, but it's still bigger than an LCP.

ctfireman
02-16-2013, 10:21
Nothing that i've come across.

NDCent
02-16-2013, 10:26
Does something even close exist. I need something very small for the few occasions when I can not dress around my G27s blockeyness. I looked at the Shield as it is thinner but it is still not quite small enough to do what I am looking for. I really like the size and feel of the Ruger LCP but the trigger pull is so long and heavy like a DAO revolver. Does something the size of the LCP but with a glock like trigger exist?

P.S. After a bad experience with my Kahr PM9 which I ended up selling that is not an option. It was also a heavier trigger anyway.

I use the LCP for just this purpose, the trigger isn't that hard to get accustom with, IMO.

Wake_jumper
02-16-2013, 10:55
Sig P238 has a nice trigger but it is SAO, so you will have to carry it cocked and locked like a 1911.

Restless28
02-16-2013, 11:01
It all comes back to the LCP.

fastbolt
02-16-2013, 13:22
It all comes back to the LCP.

Yeah, more or less.

The Bodyguard 380 isn't a bad option, either. I decided against one simply based on the added frame bulk of the integral laser (option accessory/bulk on the LCP), and that the LCP was just enough smaller than the BG380 to make a difference to me, for my desired needs.

The BG380's larger grip and better sights might make for a better alternative choice for other folks, though.

I'd not be at all surprised to see that the more experienced shooters of small DAO revolvers would do better with the diminutive DAO .380 pistols. It's probably going to vary quite a bit among potential owners & users when it comes to selecting and being able to accurately & effectively use these little guns.

For example, while I'm a long time 1911 and DA revolver shooter, I've also acclimated myself to the traditional DA pistols (what many folks refer to DA/SA). It took a bit to then further acclimate myself to many of the plastic guns (DAO, "constant DA", etc), and there are a number of smallish DAO-type guns which I simply don't prefer to own/use.

My favorite plastic pistol design is the Walther 99 series, but the Glock and M&P are certainly satisfactory.

I found the Shield (in 9mm, at least) to be surprisingly nicely done (on a par with my 3913/CS9 for trigger, but thinner & lighter), but the LC9 was something that I knew right away wouldn't interest me (after spending an afternoon using one briefly belonging to another instructor). The Kahr 9's & .40's were so-so (to me).

I was quite surprised I liked the LCP as much as I did ... for what it is ... finding the trigger to offer a better experience than the LC9 (PM9, P11, etc), and that it was as accurate as it was (especially considering the rudimentary ... okay, crude ... sights).

The practical accuracy with 4 different loads (3 of which were JHP's) in my LCP were very nice.

I'd still rather have one of my J-frames, but the whole reason I even considered the LCP (and then bought one) was to be better able to pocket-holster the LCP in clothing and circumstances when I wasn't able to do so with one of my several J's.

I try to avoid making recommendations to other folks, especially if I can't work with them on a range to see their skillset, but I think the LCP (and BG380) are worth consideration for someone to try out (before buying) for these sort of diminutive, defensive pocket holster pistols.

Other folks might well need to stay with some larger make/model/caliber in order to be able to safely, accurately, controllably & effectively shoot them, though.

banger
02-16-2013, 13:40
Does something even close exist. I need something very small for the few occasions when I can not dress around my G27s blockeyness. I looked at the Shield as it is thinner but it is still not quite small enough to do what I am looking for. I really like the size and feel of the Ruger LCP but the trigger pull is so long and heavy like a DAO revolver. Does something the size of the LCP but with a glock like trigger exist?

P.S. After a bad experience with my Kahr PM9 which I ended up selling that is not an option. It was also a heavier trigger anyway.


I can't help but think that some on this thread fail to realize is that the LOOOOONG trigger pulls on the LCP and the BG 380 act as a safety device all on their own.

This class of pistol is particularly suitable for "pocket carry" and as such, you really would not want a light and crisp trigger.

The purpose of the long trigger pull is to make the act of discharging the pistol one of being DELIBERATE.

Ask yourself, would you really want to reach into the pocket of a pair of jeans and want to be grasping onto the trigger of a Glock.

oneuglygun
02-16-2013, 14:11
I have tried pretty much everythink that came to mind for pocket carry . I ended up with the BG380. Loaded with Buffalo Bore it will get by. The trigger gets better with use and it is very accurate. I just don't like the blocky boat anchor weight of most of the small stuff out there. I can't figure out why somebody doesn't make something in a single stack , with a good trigger that overall weight is around 14-15 ounces. The Glock 26 and 27 come in heavy when loaded. For just a few more ounces you can carry the 17. The XD is fine, but another block of steel. I love the triggers on my Glocks and wish the BG380 was even close. I sometimes carry The Taurus 941 22 Mag. inside the wb. They have some pretty good ammo out in that caliber and the 941 is 8 shot with a SA/DA trigger. I have owned the 941 for 15 years and it has never failed.

wjv
02-16-2013, 22:02
I am looking for. I really like the size and feel of the Ruger LCP but the trigger pull is so long and heavy like a DAO revolver.


Not the new ones. Look for am LCP with the new serial number sequence (no '-' in the number). They lightened the trigger and shortened the pull, both by about 1/3rd.

They also improved the sights. . .

JerryVO
02-17-2013, 08:01
Not the new ones. Look for am LCP with the new serial number sequence (no '-' in the number). They lightened the trigger and shortened the pull, both by about 1/3rd.

They also improved the sights. . .

Wow.. I had not read this before.. That would be perfect.... Time for some more research into the lcp. Thanks

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wjv
02-18-2013, 16:55
LCP
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i303/bcvojak/RVNet02/LCP18_zps25cd9803.jpg
In an Uncle Mikes #1 pocket holster modified to hold an extra mag
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i303/bcvojak/RVNet02/LCP819_zps68cdd234.jpg
New style (larger) sights plus NiteSiters added
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i303/bcvojak/RVNet02/LCP820_zps8eef341c.jpg
NiteSiters @ night
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i303/bcvojak/RVNet02/LCP822_zps3dc737c9.jpg

banger
02-18-2013, 18:58
LCP
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i303/bcvojak/RVNet02/LCP18_zps25cd9803.jpg
In an Uncle Mikes #1 pocket holster modified to hold an extra mag
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i303/bcvojak/RVNet02/LCP819_zps68cdd234.jpg
New style (larger) sights plus NiteSiters added
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i303/bcvojak/RVNet02/LCP820_zps8eef341c.jpg
NiteSiters @ night
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i303/bcvojak/RVNet02/LCP822_zps3dc737c9.jpg


You can't imagine how long I have been looking for photos of those improved sights.

Truthfully, I like them.

Thank you for posting the photos.

dkf
02-18-2013, 19:02
I was quite surprised I liked the LCP as much as I did ... for what it is ... finding the trigger to offer a better experience than the LC9 (PM9, P11, etc), and that it was as accurate as it was (especially considering the rudimentary ... okay, crude ... sights).

Same here. I am used to the Glocks but I have zero problems with my LCP trigger.

wk9k
02-18-2013, 21:08
Diamond Back? DB9.


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The diamondback db9 is a total POS.. been there done that..dont even suggest that thing to anyone...just saying