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Nalapombu
02-15-2013, 20:15
Hey all,

Never owned an ADULT airgun and thought I never would be interested in them. Then I watched a video where a guy took a new Crosman airgun chambered in .357 and not only killed several hogs with it, but he took it to Africa and killed some very nice Plains game with it.
This thing basically shoots a lead slug that looks like a 357mag slug at about 900fps and it has a 6 shot rotary mag. Pretty pricey though.

Anyway, I got an email telling me of the new stuff for 2013 from Benelli and it's partners, one is Stoeger. I checked out the Stoeger page and seen where they had a crop of new airguns. Boy they really look great. I've never really thought about getting one of these adult airguns, but now these things have me scratching my head. If I had a place to shoot it, I would definitely be looking at getting one. You could get a can of pellets for a few bucks and shoot all day out to 75 yards or so and have a blast. Anyone for some MINI-SNIPING?

Anyway, check out these Stoeger Airguns and see what you think.
http://usa.stoegerairguns.com/


Here's the other one I mentioned in 357. It's called the ROGUE.
http://www.crosman.com/airguns/rifles/pcp/BPE3571


Have you ever thought about getting one of these airguns? Would you?

What do you think about them?

Nalajr

uhlawpup
02-16-2013, 09:02
I guess it would be interesting, but I don't have that kind of fun money.

If you get one, just remember to clean it real good after shooting if the wind is blowing in from the refineries.

How ya doin'? :wavey:

uhlawpup....needs more coffee...

DonD
02-16-2013, 11:23
I don't think the electronic Crosman will attract much of a following with a price of $1500. You can get a lot of good centerfire guns for far less.

Ruger's American rifle is getting very positive reviews with often sub MOA accuracy and is selling for less than $400. Hard to rationalize such a price differential.

Of course, a break action pellet gun and a .308 centerfire are aimed at entirely different audiences. Don

nursetim
02-16-2013, 12:46
Did you know that Lewis and Clark used an airgun to take game as big as deer.

If some are thinking that if the .gov bans firearms, we will still have airguns. Check with the laws in the uk on that. I'm pretty sure they are forbidden as well.

They are cool though.

CitizenOfDreams
02-16-2013, 13:00
As airguns get more advanced, are we going to have Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, Explosives and Compressed Gases? :dunno:

Nalapombu
02-16-2013, 15:48
I don't have that kind of "fun money" either. There are too many other toys on my list that I have to get first. I just think these modern air rifles are interesting, especially the 357 one by Crosman. To me that's quite something, to take an AIR RIFLE and propel a 357 lead slug at 180 grains or so to 900fps and be able to cleanly take African Plains game and BIG HOGS with it.

Sure, most people would much rather buy an AR or AK or even a great Bolt gun for much less than that, me included, but there are some people that will have to have one of those air rifles, probably a LOT of people. If for no other reason than to drag it out in front of their pals and say "hey guys, check THIS out, it's the most powerful air rifle in the world." The same reason a dealer in the WV Coal Fields once told me that he sells "LOTS" of Weatherby 460 Mag rifles.

Ever since reading an article in an old G&A magazine titled "MINI-SNIPING" that showcased adult air rifles and the backyard games people were playing with them, I have been interested in them. Maybe one day I'll get one and do some MINI-SNIPING of my own.

Nalajr

elsolo
02-16-2013, 23:04
The Rogue isn't catching on with big bore airgunners yet.
The .308 through >.50 cal airguns on Quackenbush type actions are much more popular.
https://xp-airguns.com/images/walnut_ranger2.jpg
https://xp-airguns.com/Ranger.html

I play around with a Benjamin Marauder in .25 it's a lot of fun and can be used in places where a .22lr cannot.
http://www.crosman.com/img/products/full/BP2563.jpg

Nalapombu
02-17-2013, 09:53
That Marauder is sweet! That's the one I would get if I were to get a REAL air rifle. I think if you had a couple buddies or neighbors and you had some room, you could have a helluva good evening out with the air rifles.

Are the other airguns that are 308 to 50 cal as effective on game animals as the Rogue appears to be? I am assuming you have seen the Youtube vids of the guys from the UK that used it in Africa and on the hogs? These BIG BORE airguns are just awesome. No question if the technology keeps progressing, the FEDS will get involved with them. When firearms were banned in England and the air rifle market got bigger and bigger, they came under regulation too. I think you can still buy airguns in England without too much hassle, but you can't just walk in and buy one and the ones that you can buy can't have too much muzzle energy. Correct me if I am wrong here, but I think that's how it is.

Nalajr

DonD
02-17-2013, 10:06
but there are some people that will have to have one of those air rifles, probably a LOT of people. If for no other reason than to drag it out in front of their pals and say "hey guys, check THIS out, it's the most powerful air rifle in the world." The same reason a dealer in the WV Coal Fields once told me that he sells "LOTS" of Weatherby 460 Mag rifles.
Nalajr

A lot of truth there. Like your comment on the .460 Weatherby, the .458 Win Mag has sold quite well considering that there are no game animals on this continent that require its power. I plead guilty there, I bought a Ruger No. 1 back in 1977. Loved the look of the Tropical version and was then and still am a power junkie. I'm not much of a hunter and to date, the biggest thing it's killed was a 250# wild hog sow, the other was a jackrabbit. Its a beautiful gun and I'd never sell it. Don

Joshhtn
02-17-2013, 10:09
My buddy bought the X10 for fun... Heavy, but fun to shoot!

oily_oink
02-17-2013, 10:09
Thanks for the Link! Those Stoeger's look cool!

ScottMn
02-17-2013, 16:06
Lots of reasons to shoot air rifles....

*Pennies a round to shoot
*Quiet, can shoot at home...no range fees
*You don't clean the bore after every outing..... every 500-1000 shots
*MOA accuracy
*Triggers on the "good" guns are fantastic without a ton of modifications
*Impossible to "shoot out"
*Repairs can be done at home with a little knowledge
*Pricing starts at $400 for a gun that very few can "outshoot"

All of these add up to lots of trigger time for the powder burners. Here's a few pics....

HW97
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c117/ScottMn/HW97/IMG_1430.jpg

Webley Longbow
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c117/ScottMn/Longbow/LB1-1.jpg

Beeman R7
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c117/ScottMn/R7/P1010179.jpg

Air Arms TX200
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c117/ScottMn/TX200/TXside.jpg

HW50
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c117/ScottMn/HW50/P3090045.jpg

They're just as much fun as any of my powder burners. I bet I have more rounds through the 97 than all of my center fires combined.. They're worth looking into for sure.

Nalapombu
02-17-2013, 19:05
Great looking selection Scott. I notice all of them are break barrel style. I think if I were going to get one, it would be a PCP style. I can see getting really tired of pulling that 40 pound cocking effort after about 30 shots or so. Then again you'd have to drag a scuba tank with you if you were going to do much shooting with a PCP. I guess there are trade offs on all of them, no free lunch.

DodD, I love the Ruger No. 1 rifles. I've never had one, but have held and admired them many times. Like you said I wouldn't need it for anything, but it would be great to have. I tell myself that one day I will go to Africa and hunt. Maybe it'll end up being a jack rabbit, but I'll get there one day. GOD willing.

Thanks all.

Nalajr

norton
02-17-2013, 19:19
I purchased one of these a month ago. Its an RWS Diana 56-springer in .22. It shoots about 850 fps on my chronograph. the barrel rides on a rail system to control the "sprong" on spring powered air guns. I am still working on a favorite pellet. So far my best groups are a little more then an inch at 50 yards.

I also own a Hammerli Pneuma pre charged air rifle in .177.

The Europeans are building very sophisticated air rifles, since in many countries thats about all the general public can own.

My Diana was made in Germany, the Hammerli in Turkey.

bac1023
02-17-2013, 20:00
I haven't seen one yet, but it sounds cool.

DonD
02-17-2013, 20:26
Lots of reasons to shoot air rifles....

*Pennies a round to shoot

In general, I'd agree with you. I saw prices for 9mm pellets for the Crosman .357 electronic gun in Pyramid Air's catalog and the pellets alone were as expensive as a box of 9mm Para ammo was before the Obozo scare. Don