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Filhar
02-17-2013, 09:08
Went to my lgs yesterday. Have had a g30 gen 4 on order to replace my g26 gen 4. They still can't get one, but they had a gen 3. I LIKE the size, but would prefer the new finish and replaceable backstrap for my small hands.
Then they showed me the xdm 3.8 compact .45. I Like the size. The length to trigger is less than the g30 gen3, but the grip is shorter with the 9 round Magazine and way too long with the 13 round.
The g30 is $550 and the xdm is $630. The g30 gen 4 will probably be $575.
I went to xdtalk and every post said you need a prp trigger kit for over $100,, but you can shoot lead out of a xdm.
Too many variables, variables I overthinking it? Wait for the gen 4 or??

Rustin
02-17-2013, 09:46
I couldn't say. They are both fine firearms. My personal choice would be an M&P 45c. Out of the two G30's, The Gen 4 might be better for you if you've got smaller hands.

CBennett
02-17-2013, 16:01
Glock 36 or XDs

glock2740
02-17-2013, 16:30
I own a G30 and have an XDs coming next week. Can't wait to compare the two. :cool:

byf43
02-17-2013, 18:50
Went to my lgs yesterday. Have had a g30 gen 4 on order to replace my g26 gen 4. They still can't get one, but they had a gen 3. I LIKE the size, but would prefer the new finish and replaceable backstrap for my small hands.
Then they showed me the xdm 3.8 compact .45. I Like the size. The length to trigger is less than the g30 gen3, but the grip is shorter with the 9 round Magazine and way too long with the 13 round.
The g30 is $550 and the xdm is $630. The g30 gen 4 will probably be $575.
I went to xdtalk and every post said you need a prp trigger kit for over $100,, but you can shoot lead out of a xdm.
Too many variables, variables I overthinking it? Wait for the gen 4 or??


Get the Glock!!!



(This isn't "XDM Talk"!):rofl:

VA27
02-17-2013, 19:11
If I wanted a small 45 (and I do) I'd look at the G39. Same size as your G26.

SDR
02-17-2013, 22:33
Ok my $.02. Go rent an XDs. After over 20 years of owning/shooting a G21 it has really perked up my shooting again. After renting twice I had to own one as they are a blast to shoot. It's so slim it is unreal.

ETNSHOOTER
02-17-2013, 22:57
Never had a xdm, but I love my G30sf. As far as shooting lead, I do in the 30. You only have to worry about leading the barrel and the 45acp is one of the best rounds for no leading. Just keep them around 800 to 850fps. With that said,I don't shoot lead in my 26 or 19 cuz I've always had leading problems with the 9mm . But some do with no problems.
The g30sf is a sweet shooter!!! Think about it.

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RCP
02-17-2013, 23:40
I have the XDm compact .45 and I love it. Mine has the factory trigger and it is better than any of my Glocks that I have installed the 3.5 connector and done the .25 cent trigger job on. I wouldn't mind trying a PRP trigger but am in no hurry for one nor do I feel it is a necessity. Mine has been 100% reliable with everything I've fed it so far and I've come to trust it as much as I do my Glocks. Holster selection isn't as good as with the Glocks but I found a nice leather OWB DeSantis that seems to work pretty well. I'm surprised you find the grip too short coming from a G26. I practice shooting the XDm with the flush 9 rounders and find it very controllable and extremely accurate. I still carry my G26 quite a bit and shoot it well but I have been carrying the XDm more and more lately. It does not conceal as well as my G26 but it does conceal better than my G23. The aggressive grip texture likes to grab ahold of shirts but as long as your aware of that and check to make sure you haven't become exposed after bending over or what not you're good to go.

NEOH212
02-17-2013, 23:42
Glock.

Slug71
02-18-2013, 01:51
G39...

BenjiEDF
02-18-2013, 01:58
Why do you want to replace the 26? Nobody else asked, but I think that's crazy talk. Get the G30 in addition to it!

byf43
02-18-2013, 08:45
Why do you want to replace the 26? Nobody else asked, but I think that's crazy talk. Get the G30 in addition to it!


Best post in thread.



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mike28w
02-18-2013, 09:27
I have small hands too.... I've played the Glock vs XD game in the past and gone through various iterations....

My impressions: I've always ended up doing trigger work on the XD's but I understand that the XDm's trigger is much improved. ( I've only dry fired XDms).... I could never find any way to alter a Glock to comfortably fit my hand ( but I really appreciate the Glock design) .

Just recently , I traded in an XD 45 compact for an XDs 45(single stack).... Have only run about 50 rounds thru it. SO far...it looks like the best for me !! mike


PS: the XDs 45 doesn't seem to kick as much as my XD45 compact..... I can't explain that at all, but it's more pleasant to shoot....

bac1023
02-18-2013, 13:57
I prefer the XDm over the 45ACP Glocks.

Glockcubed
02-18-2013, 15:55
Glock 36, 6+1, single stack, slim. Hides very nice:whistling:

Filhar
02-18-2013, 16:27
First, I will not get rid of my g26. It will probably be my t shirt and shorts gun or bug if needed. I went through a lot of guns to get my perfect Cowboy Action guns and after about 14 years, I'm down to one rifle, two shotguns, and two pair of pistols. No need to ever change.

SiberianErik
02-18-2013, 22:35
I prefer the XDm over the 45ACP Glocks.

This

I had 9 of them come in to the store on Thursday morning. WE also have numerous G30SF and about a half dozen G30S

Guess which one was sold out by lunch time, btw we open at 10:00 am :yawn:

I put them XDs right next to the Glock case full of the 36's, 30 and 30S...the XDs literally flew out of the store.

Of course I got a load of HK P30s in now

Filhar
02-18-2013, 23:01
How much were the xdm 3.8 compact 45s. My lgs is $630 for the black.

ImpeachObama
02-18-2013, 23:10
If I wanted a small 45 (and I do) I'd look at the G39. Same size as your G26.

+1 on the G39 - all the way.

RCP
02-19-2013, 00:19
How much were the xdm 3.8 compact 45s. My lgs is $630 for the black.

That's a reasonable price I paid $599 for mine before all the hysteria hit.

bigdough666
02-20-2013, 23:06
G30 all day!

Scrappy
02-21-2013, 08:07
This

I had 9 of them come in to the store on Thursday morning. WE also have numerous G30SF and about a half dozen G30S

Guess which one was sold out by lunch time, btw we open at 10:00 am :yawn:

I put them XDs right next to the Glock case full of the 36's, 30 and 30S...the XDs literally flew out of the store.

Of course I got a load of HK P30s in now

Where are you located? Im looking for a G30S

Magus
02-21-2013, 19:06
I owned a G30 and owned a 3.8 XDM in .45 at one time. Can't offer any opinion on the Gen4 G30...never handled one.

They're both good guns, neither suited me despite my love of .45

Each model to me had it's pros and cons. I liked and disliked them both for very different reasons.

If I were forced to pick between the two it would be the G30. Mainly due to the greater availability of aftermarket parts and accessories and a few design aspects between the two.

Again though, they're both very good options for a compact .45, it's just going to come down to your own personal taste.

Dawolf
02-21-2013, 21:23
Just got my G-36 today:cool:

GIG4FUN
02-21-2013, 21:31
I recommend the XDm 3.8 .45 because I like mine much ;)

Filhar
02-21-2013, 22:10
I put my money down on the xdm cause I didn't want to wait for the gen 4

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I Shooter
02-21-2013, 22:29
I have the Glock 21 SF, 30 and the 36. I got the 36 last. I cared the 30 and found it to heavy and to thick. So I got the 36, I like it best for carry. I like to shoot the 21, it's the easiest to shoot. The 36 isn't bad to shoot but it is so much smaller and lighter the kick is snappy. I wouldn't want to put 100 rounds down range through it at one time. When I shoot the 36 I put no more than fifty through it at a time. It is accurate and I like it very much for carry. It isn't a tinny little gun like the LCP. Yet it is quit easy to carry.

GIG4FUN
02-23-2013, 06:28
I put my money down on the xdm cause I didn't want to wait for the gen 4

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Nice, no looking back - you'll appreciate that pistol for sure!
Buy additional magazines DIRECTLY from Springfield Armory - it's about a five week wait.but I assure you, best quality and price in my view.
Congratulations on deciding.


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Arc Angel
02-23-2013, 07:10
Had I the free money, I'd buy the XDm 3.8 in a heartbeat! I don't think I've ever seen or handled a better BUG - Ever! Normally I don't like XD(m) anythings; the balance is just too off for me; but this new, little, XDm, 3.8, 45 ACP pistol has WINNER written all over it! :thumbsup:

Filhar
02-23-2013, 08:15
Arc Angel, that's what I thought, I went in wanting a Glock and the gun store worker was so busy, he just said "try this" and walked away. I fondled for a while and walked away undecided. I do like the gen 4 Glocks finish and backstraps more than other Glocks.
I will like getting back to a .45. Miss my 1911.

RoughTexturedTrav
02-23-2013, 21:11
I just got a glock 39 off of a guy on this forum today for $420 bnib with factory night sights. Get the glock sir.

thesilverbullet
02-23-2013, 21:43
i would wait for the 30 gen 4

if u cant wait considar a 30S or 30sf gen3

captcurly
02-24-2013, 10:52
The Glock 36 has worked for me since 2002.

boilergonzo
02-25-2013, 09:16
For many calibers I prefer the Glock, but in .45ACP, I do not, and I chose the XD. The size and comfort seals it. Easily the better gun for me (speaking for me!) in that caliber.

Some talk about required trigger jobs, and I agree the triggers on both can be improved, but out of the box, I'd put the XD and Glock at a very similar level (no "Perfection" on either, but both perfectly acceptable... certainly not something I view as a real differentiator).

Glock just didn't do as nice a job dealing with the .45ACP in my book. But if you like the feel of the Glock better, go with it!

I will stick with the XD .45ACP, though!

boilergonzo
02-25-2013, 09:20
I put my money down on the xdm cause I didn't want to wait for the gen 4

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Congratulations! I do think that you will be very pleased, and hope that you are!

thesilverbullet
02-25-2013, 19:01
The size and comfort seals it. Easily the better gun for me (speaking for me!) in that caliber.



which model and what are the dimensions that define the "size" that u perfer?

Orkinmna903
02-25-2013, 21:45
I cannot get my tiny midget hands around the double stack glock frame. Double stack Para, no problem. Carry the Kimber, no problem. Be accurate with a gloc, for me- no way. I chose the XDs for my latest cc pistol. Love it so far. 250 rds through it and no hiccups yet.

thesilverbullet
02-26-2013, 20:53
I cannot get my tiny midget hands around the double stack glock frame. Double stack Para, no problem. Carry the Kimber, no problem. Be accurate with a gloc, for me- no way. I chose the XDs for my latest cc pistol. Love it so far. 250 rds through it and no hiccups yet.

i orginally had the same outlook on the dbl vs single stack frames due to my stubby short fingers and the reason my first glock was a g36 single stack. but i quickly realized with the proper grip the dbl stacks are no problem (thanks to HICKOK45 utube training vids...)

from what i'm seeing from XD web site the are much larger and heavier than the glocks. which model do u have?

kostnerave
02-26-2013, 21:10
Glock 36, 6+1, single stack, slim. Hides very nice:whistling:

+1 on the G-36 a slim easy to cover & shoot 45ACP.

Glock 23 Nutter
02-26-2013, 21:21
Another vote for the G36.

Outstanding SD/EDC pistol.


For a Shooting (SD/EDC)? G36 45 ACP/230 gr. HST+P

For a Shoot-out (HD/Service)? G23 .40/180 gr HST




Nutter

boilergonzo
02-27-2013, 16:51
which model and what are the dimensions that define the "size" that u perfer?

In a full size, my XD.45ACP 4" (fits hands better than the Glock sf versions... meaning almost identical to 9mm grip).

Considering XDm, too, but first priority was the .45ACP XDs (currently on order, and looking forward to it!).

Size preference is relative and personal. I have some tiny guns that I like (.380, 340PD). I also just ordered a G20sf 10mm. I can hold all fine, so size isn't always a deterrent. But when a smaller gun can meet or exceed the performance of a larger gun while feeling better to hold, it appeals to me. Glock was slow on the .45ACP front in terms of size in my opinion. I like the XD's better.

I will not be trading in my G17 for a 9mm XD, though... and I think the G26 is better than the subcompact XD.

James Dean
02-27-2013, 18:11
I only own one XDM and its the 3.8 in .45ACP. I went with it because I could not find a G30 Gen4. I also like the 9 round CC and the 13 round H/D. The XDM 3.8 shoots great.

Jack23
02-28-2013, 14:24
I have no experience with the XD .45s. But I'll stick with my G-36. It hides and rides very very well. Very accurate and goes bang every time. That's good enough for me.

thesilverbullet
03-02-2013, 22:18
im sure the XD's are good (i can see alot glock influence in the design) but glocks are lighter & smaller relative to mag cap. / barrel length (XD's web site does a poor job of giving dimensions compaired to glock's site).

are all XD's single stack mag? for me it's all about the dbl stack mags - i love my g36 but i love the dbl stack mag more...

boilergonzo
03-04-2013, 17:11
im sure the XD's are good (i can see alot glock influence in the design) but glocks are lighter & smaller relative to mag cap. / barrel length (XD's web site does a poor job of giving dimensions compaired to glock's site).

are all XD's single stack mag? for me it's all about the dbl stack mags - i love my g36 but i love the dbl stack mag more...

No. The S are single stack. Others are double stack (and quite often pack more rounds into a smaller space than comparable Glocks).


For comparison:
SLIM (single stack)... since you don't care for the G36, the XDm might be something to consider!
G36 is 7" long, 20.11oz, 4.76" H, 1.1" W, capacity 6+1
XDm is 6.9" long, 27oz, 4.75"H, 1.26"W, capacity of 9+1
XDs is 6.3" long, 21.5oz, 4.4"H, 0.9" W, capacity of 5+1

COMPACT
G30 is 7" long, 24oz., 4.8" H, 1.27" W, capacity of 9+1
XDm is 6.9" long, 27oz, 4.75" H, 1.26" W, capacity of 9+1
XD Compact 7.3" long, 29oz, 5" H, 1.22" W, capacity of 10+1

FULL
G21 is 8.22 long, 26.5oz, 5.47" H, 1.27" W, capacity of 13+1
XD Full is 7.3" long, 30oz, 5.5" H, 1.22" W, capacity of 13+1

XD's do tend to weight a smidge more. They also have factory metal mags and factory metal sights. In the grand scheme of things, carrying a few more ounces is easier for me than hiding extra width or length, but to each his or her own. I do prefer the XD grip. Another factor that is ignored in the spec is the grip circumference. Some Glocks have a rather long front-to-rear length (and some SF models trim this down), but the grip width isn't all of the story in terms of how they fill the hand.

boilergonzo
03-04-2013, 17:15
im sure the XD's are good (i can see alot glock influence in the design) but glocks are lighter & smaller relative to mag cap. / barrel length (XD's web site does a poor job of giving dimensions compaired to glock's site).

are all XD's single stack mag? for me it's all about the dbl stack mags - i love my g36 but i love the dbl stack mag more...

As for the website, one can get the XD catalog from the XD site by clicking on it (pdf). It has all XD's in a catalog, with Ben Franklin-like table with all calibers, dimensions, etc. displayed on two clean pages (widths, capacities with/without extensions, all dimensions, weight with/without mags, etc.. Really easy to read and compare, if you need some stats fast.

Larry V
03-04-2013, 18:00
Glock 30 Gen 4 may be one of the best compact 45's out there

thesilverbullet
03-04-2013, 20:36
thanks - i found the catalog with the specs...

looking at the dbl stack models with ~4" barrels and 9+ mags, the glock 30 gen 4 is smaller in evey dim except the grip width which is 0.02" - 0.06 wider. the new 30S is even ligher making it ~7-9oz lighter than the XDs.

G30 Gen4, 6.77" long (my 30S is ~6.78"), 23.81 (30S=20.28)oz., 4.8" (4.35" with 9rd mag) H, 1.28" W, 10+1 cap.

XDm is 6.9" long, 27oz, 4.75" H, 1.26" W, capacity of 9+1
XD Compact 7.3" long, 29oz, 5" H, 1.22" W, capacity of 10+1

even with the sizes in close range, i would not want to deal with the added weight and grip safety of the XDs.

ADK_40GLKr
03-04-2013, 20:44
X=>9(4). Do the math!

AWGD8
03-04-2013, 21:43
OP, THIS------> My sold Glock 39 vs my XDs.

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Both shoot the same...just a pubic hair softer recoil on the G39 due to larger and thicker slide.

Glock 30 and 36 are as thick as the G39 when it comes to slide thickness.

FiremanJim
03-04-2013, 22:04
Just picked up an XDS and I love it,nice fit in the hand,fits in a cargo pants pocket and seems to be a well made gun,it's competing with my Kahr PM9 for ultra compact carry.The Kahr is still smaller and lighter but only gives 1 more round of 9mm over the 45 Xds

subret
03-05-2013, 06:54
G30 or XDS. I have both, but the XDS conceals better.

GThirtyTwo
03-05-2013, 07:07
XDs!!!!

boilergonzo
03-06-2013, 14:54
thanks - i found the catalog with the specs...

looking at the dbl stack models with ~4" barrels and 9+ mags, the glock 30 gen 4 is smaller in evey dim except the grip width which is 0.02" - 0.06 wider. the new 30S is even ligher making it ~7-9oz lighter than the XDs.

G30 Gen4, 6.77" long (my 30S is ~6.78"), 23.81 (30S=20.28)oz., 4.8" (4.35" with 9rd mag) H, 1.28" W, 10+1 cap.

XDm is 6.9" long, 27oz, 4.75" H, 1.26" W, capacity of 9+1
XD Compact 7.3" long, 29oz, 5" H, 1.22" W, capacity of 10+1

even with the sizes in close range, i would not want to deal with the added weight and grip safety of the XDs.

Yep, XD's do weigh more! Metal guide rod, metal sights, generally heavier build, some with captive springs, etc. Even a bit blockier on some models (and when compared to a Glock, that is saying something! :supergrin:)I deal with weight better than width and bulk, but that is an individual preference.


Both are good guns, and some prefer Glock's, which is perfectly acceptable. When I handle the two and compare side-by-side, I prefer the XD's in .45ACP, hands down. I prefer Glocks in 9mm. I just ordered my G20SF 10mm, and am very much looking forward to getting it!

But for grip fit and feel in many small guns (including the .45ACP), I feel like Glock fell asleep and ignored the US concealed carry market, and is just now beginning to catch up in this space. They ignored the segment, and others already went slim. Glock is now starting to respond. Good! More options for us!

Be careful of using just width specs from the factory. See the picture posted above of the XDs. The grip width is listed by Springfield as 0.90", but the maximum width of the GUN is 1" (not 0.9"!!!!). We know the grip width of the Glock, but I have not seen a factory spec on the max width. The slide can be wider than the grip spec in many cases! Best to handle both, or see comparative pictures, because the numbers don't always tell the entire story. Even grip width is deceptive in terms of feel (to illustrate this, the G20 and G20SF both have an identical grip WIDTH of 1.27"... but FEEL very different in the hand due to the increased circumference due to length, making one very difficult to hold for folks with smaller hands!). For me, the XD grip and feel in .45ACP is better. With the newer models, Glock is trying to catch up, and perhaps I will prefer them to the XD some day.

I like the grip safety. I never notice it is there, and I have no issues with it. But some feel otherwise, and are entitled to their views.

AWGD8, great comparison photos!!! Thanks!

moonwilson
03-06-2013, 15:01
In any other caliber I'd say "get the Glock" almost every time. But I don't care for Glock's .45s. I don't like most XDs, but would be willing the give the XDs in .45 a shot. (excuse the pun).

Scrappy
03-06-2013, 17:16
In any other caliber I'd say "get the Glock" almost every time. But I don't care for Glock's .45s. I don't like most XDs, but would be willing the give the XDs in .45 a shot. (excuse the pun).

Whats wrong with the 45 Glocks? They are soft shooting and very very accurate. Most accurate of all Glocks too.
I have not had one hiccup since 2004 with my G30!
Its awesome!!!

thesilverbullet
03-06-2013, 18:28
OP, THIS------> My sold Glock 39 vs my XDs.

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Both shoot the same...just a pubic hair softer recoil on the G39 due to larger and thicker slide.

Glock 30 and 36 are as thick as the G39 when it comes to slide thickness.

that's alot of gun for only 5rds... for heavy and single stacks, i prefer 1911 style..

do you guys carry the these with the safety ON or OFF?

SDR
03-06-2013, 19:12
Safety? We don't need no stinkin' safety! But seriously Glocks and XDs' don't have manual ones.

GlockFanWA
03-06-2013, 19:13
My vote for the G36.

ScottieG59
03-06-2013, 19:58
I bought an XDs in 45 ACP (9mm coming out soon). I can pocket carry it very well in a pocket holster. I like the lack of a manual safety. It has been very reliable, accurate and easy to shoot. The trigger is well done and has a very fast reset.

I think the XDs is the best small 45 ACP overall. I consider the Glock 36, but based on comments by some owners, I decided against it. I also considered the Kahr PM45 and it would have been fine too. All three were fine, but the Springfield just called out to me the most.

My current deep concealment gun is a Kahr PM9. It is not a 45 ACP, but it is also an excellent choice for a pocketable pistol.

Anyway, in a small 45 ACP, I really would go with the XDs, however, there are a few good choices out there.

Nakanokalronin
03-06-2013, 20:49
that's alot of gun for only 5rds... for heavy and single stacks, i prefer 1911 style..

do you guys carry the these with the safety ON or OFF?

You need to see one in person and shoot if possible. It's as small as the current popular 9mms out there and it's holding 5 rounds of 45acp, 7 of 9mm when it hits the shelves.

http://imageshack.us/a/img198/1622/dsc02218aw.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img17/3851/dsc02217ow.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img836/802/dsc02219ri.jpg

GIG4FUN
03-09-2013, 02:45
I had weighed in on the XDM .45 3.8
But - I just bought a new H&K .45c and it seems to be a bit more desirable for my use right now.
I'll know more as time goes by...


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eggie
03-09-2013, 09:57
i had both, sold the 30sf bad move, should have kept the glock:crying:

boilergonzo
03-11-2013, 13:23
My XD45 has been fantastic. No issues at all, still very pleased with it.

jim goose
03-11-2013, 14:44
Those xds's are a nice package, hard to go wrong. A fullsize model with 8 rounds, would be a hit too.

dwbG30SF
03-11-2013, 17:56
For me it's a no-brainer, the G30SF hands down.

thesilverbullet
03-11-2013, 20:34
Safety? We don't need no stinkin' safety! But seriously Glocks and XDs' don't have manual ones.

thanks - so that's the mag release that looks like a safety

mtbinva
03-11-2013, 20:38
For me it's a no-brainer, the G30SF hands down.

+ 1000

Super accurate. LOVE mine.

Noles26
03-11-2013, 20:46
I owned a XDS for 2 weeks. Not a comfortable gun for me to carry, the aggressive nature of the pistol tore into my slacks and knuckles any time I went into pocket.

So I sold it and went back to carrying my STI Shadow.

1911 in .45 is the ONLY .45 to have.

vetmedglock30
03-12-2013, 17:20
If you want to carry alot and shoot little take the Xdm. If you want a gun to shoot a lot and carry a lot pick the 30. The Xdm is a good gun. However, it's grip is to short and slim for my hand with multiple shots on multiple targets. Ymmv. The 30 tames the 45 recoil and fills my hand. Additionally , it would make a heck of a blunt force instrument . Loaded or empty. :)

"Cold Dead Hands" !
03-12-2013, 18:16
XDMs 45 has a split-safety-trigger just like Glock's !
Patent must have run out ?
Feels good dry-firing it.
If your use to Glock triggers, than this would be a good pick.
Guys say its reliable, accurate and no muzzle flip.

G36 is lighter, feels better, and only a tad bigger.

G30 or the new G30s has the thin slide.
10 big, bad ass rounds of .45 stopping power.
In a ultra reliable package.




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nyrico
03-12-2013, 18:44
I was looking for both as well, the G30s or XDM. I have a Kimber Ultra CDP2 and was looking for something small with higher capacity in .45. Time for buying 10 round pistols is coming to, a hopefully brief, pause here in NY. Every lgs that I went to basically told me good luck finding an XDM or G30s, thats what brought me here to Glock Talk, researched the G30 and decided to broaden my search to include a G30sf, but, still no luck. I read on here that the Gen4 G30 is the same size frame as the G3 G30sf with no back straps installed and the next day I find a G4 G30, I held it and bought right away, my first Glock. Took it to the range this weekend and I am really happy with it, no regrets. Good luck with your search

dwbG30SF
03-13-2013, 04:38
1911 in .45 is the ONLY .45 to have.

I've had my share of 1911's and loved them all, but I'm more about simplicity and functionality these days, and Glock fits that bill for me.

But hey, 1911's are beautiful handguns, and works of art.