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Detectorist
04-29-2013, 10:54
Did more work than anyone else, never late, never missed work. Kept my head down. Never complained...

Still not good enough..

Rooster Rugburn
04-29-2013, 11:06
Hard work seldom gets you anywhere. Politics do. I say that from experience.


Good luck though.

Atlas
04-29-2013, 11:06
I hate to hear it..
Rough, I know, but keep your chin up.
Get back out there and keep looking. The best is yet to come.

volsbear
04-29-2013, 11:09
When I first read the title of this thread I thought it said "dang I got laid again" and wondered what the hell you're complaining about.

Sorry. Best of luck to you on both fronts.


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OctoberRust
04-29-2013, 11:09
damn man. I'm sorry to hear that. How's the economy in MO?

GVFlyer
04-29-2013, 11:11
Hard work seldom gets you anywhere. Politics do. I say that from experience.


Good luck though.

What rooster said.

Good luck.

cowboywannabe
04-29-2013, 11:13
im sorry bro, i hope you dont have kids...

Steve0853
04-29-2013, 11:15
Sorry, man.

Good Luck in getting a new job.

And my advice: Don't work so hard next time. You scared the guy one step ahead of you.

fnfalman
04-29-2013, 11:18
You have my sympathy.

Sometimes I have to lay off good workers and it's terrible, but if there's no work available then there's no work available. Don't take it too personally.

KevinFACE
04-29-2013, 11:42
. Don't take it too personally.

You know I've heard that line before and it is the BIGGEST LOAD OF PIG **** IN HISTORY.

There's nothing MORE PERSONAL than losing your job, and if I have to explain that to you then it's exceedingly sad that you can be that disconnected.

fnfalman
04-29-2013, 11:44
You know I've heard that line before and it is the BIGGEST LOAD OF PIG **** IN HISTORY.

There's nothing MORE PERSONAL than losing your job, and if I have to explain that to you then it's exceedingly sad that you can be that disconnected.

Why? Your hands sudden broke because you lost a job? You possibly can't go find employment elsewhere?

There are lots of things to be taken personally about, a job ain't one of them. It's a freakin' job.

KevinFACE
04-29-2013, 11:58
No, you aren't suddenly disabled but you know damn well the odds for most people to pick up a new job immediately are exceedingly LOW.

JMS
04-29-2013, 12:07
You had the job for 1 week?
http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1483150

How'd the other guy make out?

cowboywannabe
04-29-2013, 12:24
You had the job for 1 week?
http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1483150

How'd the other guy make out?

whoa....

md2lgyk
04-29-2013, 12:29
I got laid off from my $75K job last August when the defense contractor I worked for was downsizing. But since I'm 65, I decided to just retire. Been drawing Social Security and unemployment ever since. Paid off our few debts and am just coasting. I've applied for jobs I'd enjoy, like part time bailiff with the Sheriff's Department, but that's all. I've got enough honey-dos to last quite a while.

I really feel for anybody in today's economy that really needs a job. Good luck to you.

John Rambo
04-29-2013, 12:30
Did more work than anyone else, never late, never missed work. Kept my head down. Never complained...

Still not good enough..

Remember that the next time you get a job and they offer you the moon and stars.

Take everything you can. Give nothing back. Those people are not your friends and they are not there to help you.

John Rambo
04-29-2013, 12:32
You know I've heard that line before and it is the BIGGEST LOAD OF PIG **** IN HISTORY.

There's nothing MORE PERSONAL than losing your job, and if I have to explain that to you then it's exceedingly sad that you can be that disconnected.

Howso? I've lost jobs before. Hell, once I got escorted out by security so I wouldn't touch a computer and do my IT voodoo on my way out I guess. Not only did I never take it personally, but I always had a smile on my face and enjoyed the vacation until I got a new job. You think anyone who fired me lost a moment of sleep over it?

cowboywannabe
04-29-2013, 12:32
im lucky to have a job, knowing that i shouldnt complain....but...

janice6
04-29-2013, 12:35
Sorry man. I hope you can recover soon. They tell us the economy is doing well. BS

Steel Head
04-29-2013, 12:53
Hard work seldom gets you anywhere. Politics do. I say that from experience.


Good luck though.

Making others look bad can be bad for your job-sad isn't it:faint:
Hope you find work quickly,not sure of your occupation but mine(construction) is better now than the last few years.

jdavionic
04-29-2013, 12:55
Did more work than anyone else, never late, never missed work. Kept my head down. Never complained...

Still not good enough..

What kind of work were you doing? Perhaps someone here might be looking for a person with your skill set.

coastal4974
04-29-2013, 13:06
Have you thought about working as a TSA agent? You'll never get laid off from a gubmint job.

Bushflyr
04-29-2013, 13:14
Have you thought about working as a TSA agent? You'll never get laid off from a gubmint job.

"That kid" got the job. The TSA is constantly on the lookout for lazy people who do nothing except play with their smartphones all day. :upeyes: Oh, and occasionally get off their butts long enough to steal something.

ray9898
04-29-2013, 13:15
So did you have a permanent job or were you assigned by a temp agency like you said in the last thread. If you worked for a temp agency then you were not really "laid off", even if some lead to full time employment that is the nature of a temp job.

arclight610
04-29-2013, 13:17
I'm much like you. Hard working, the rising "whiz" kid. However, I realized that it is only 20% of the game. To achieve full potential you need to start shmoozing more. Tell the boss how he inspires me to do my best and all that jazz.

CAcop
04-29-2013, 13:24
Have you thought about working as a TSA agent? You'll never get laid off from a gubmint job.

Yes you can get laid off from the government and until the economy is back on its feet it will happen again.

NDCent
04-29-2013, 13:26
Best of luck, hope you find something else soon.

fnfalman
04-29-2013, 13:39
No, you aren't suddenly disabled but you know damn well the odds for most people to pick up a new job immediately are exceedingly LOW.

So a company is suppose to keep you on even though they don't have work for you?

They're suppose to somehow pay out for your wage when you're not making them money?

Let me guess, you must have voted for the Democrats.

ChuteTheMall
04-29-2013, 13:48
Let me guess, you must have voted for the Democrats.

But YOU voted for Obama.

:deadhorse:

OctoberRust
04-29-2013, 14:00
But YOU voted for Obama.

:deadhorse:


I think if we compared your track record to his, he's a bit more conservative than you are.

You're just quick to call names when someone calls you out on your neo-conservative hypocrisy. Not our fault we advocate limited government across the board, even when it doesn't suit us.

Detectorist
04-29-2013, 14:08
So a company is suppose to keep you on even though they don't have work for you?

They're suppose to somehow pay out for your wage when you're not making them money?

Let me guess, you must have voted for the Democrats.

The company has plenty of work. They are almost a year behind production. Apparently, no one is good enough to work in that department.

md2lgyk
04-29-2013, 14:45
Take everything you can. Give nothing back. Those people are not your friends and they are not there to help you.

Very true. Not like it used to be. My father worked for the same insurance company for over 40 years. Except for the Navy in WWII, it's the only job he ever had. Nowadays, even the best employees are nothing more than just another disposable asset as soon as they're not needed. No wonder folks today have no work ethic. I thank God every day that I don't NEED a job any more.

KevinFACE
04-29-2013, 14:51
I didn't vote and I have little right to complain since I did not. If I did vote, it would've been for Ron Paul. Since he didn't stand a snowballs chance in hell, I said why bother.

That has no bearing on this conversation, I was merely making an observation about losing a job being devastating to most people, especially given the times.

LASTRESORT20
04-29-2013, 14:54
Why? Your hands sudden broke because you lost a job? You possibly can't go find employment elsewhere?

There are lots of things to be taken personally about, a job ain't one of them. It's a freakin' job.


This^^^

Just move on be strong and do your best in finding a new one.....I was gonna say good luck....you dont need it nor need to depend on it....just make it happen.

jakebrake
04-29-2013, 14:57
that sucks. rather than get politiacal like this thread is rapidly becoming, i'm wishing you luck in finding new employment.

okie
04-29-2013, 15:24
I'm so sorry to hear that my friend, I hope something even better comes your way:wavey:

Green_Manelishi
04-29-2013, 15:26
Why? Your hands sudden broke because you lost a job? You possibly can't go find employment elsewhere?

There are lots of things to be taken personally about, a job ain't one of them. It's a freakin' job.

Sometimes the lay off IS personal. Other times it is not.

IndyGunFreak
04-29-2013, 16:11
Well, from the sounds of it you were a temp and didn't have the job long. It may not have been anything you did wrong, you just didn't fit. Ask the manager of the temp agency if they gave any reason for not keeping you. They may have had a good reason, it may have been politics.. unfortunately as a temp, you kinda gotta play both if you want to get ahead.

Did the other guy stay?

Best of luck in your search... Keep your head up and plow forward.

clancy
04-29-2013, 16:21
I know how you feel. I lost my job last month, and have had no luck finding anything. They say the economy is picking up, but I haven't seen it where I live.

I don't know what state you live in, but hopefully you can qualify for some sort of training. I learned last week that I qualify, and once NYS has some money for funding(I was told it may take several months) I can go to school for training for a new job.

In the meantime, I got my fishing license today.

fnfalman
04-29-2013, 16:32
But YOU voted for Obama.

:deadhorse:

No, you voted for Obama because you threw your vote away to that idiot RINO Romney.

I voted for the most qualified individual: Gary Johnson.

DaleGribble
04-29-2013, 16:33
There are lots of things to be taken personally about, a job ain't one of them. It's a freakin' job.

I almost always agree with you but on this one, you're wrong.

It's not always "just a job". Some people support families with their jobs, they help people maintain their very existence and some people put their heart into what they do.

I'm not saying people shouldn't be let go. Were talking about business, not charity but a job loss is a highly personal thing.

Rooster Rugburn
04-29-2013, 16:34
No, you voted for Obama because you threw your vote away to that idiot RINO Romney.

I voted for the most qualified individual: Gary Johnson.


They just don't understand principles, do they?

fnfalman
04-29-2013, 16:35
That has no bearing on this conversation, I was merely making an observation about losing a job being devastating to most people, especially given the times.

Of course losing a job is devastating, especially in these times. It doesn't mean that you have to make it "personal".

It's a job. Move on and try to land a better one next time. You think that the people that let you go would lose their sleeps over it? If they don't, then why should you? Can't change the past so move on. Unless you have a good case of wrongful termination, then sue the pants off the company.

DaleGribble
04-29-2013, 16:37
Hard work seldom gets you anywhere. Politics do. I say that from experience.


Good luck though.

That has been my experience as well.

A lot of employers will be happier with an average worker that fits in with the company "clique" than with a hard worker that doesn't "fit in".

fnfalman
04-29-2013, 16:38
I almost always agree with you but on this one, you're wrong.

It's not always "just a job". Some people support families with their jobs, they help people maintain their very existence and some people put their heart into what they do.

Some people support their families with their jobs?

How about everybody supports their families with their jobs? And yes, you put your heart and soul into it because you're a conscientious and ethical worker. However, if you get let go because there's no more work available, then it's time to put on your shoes and go find another job. Taking it "personally" does what for you except getting you pissed off for no good reason?

I'm not saying people shouldn't be let go. Were talking about business, not charity but a job loss is a highly personal thing.

Not to me. I have a lot invested in my employer and I'm giving them my best, making them money in many ways. However, if the work were to slow down and they deemed that I don't contribute enough to keep? Lay me off. I'll find another job elsewhere.

Gixxerjoe04
04-29-2013, 16:57
Become a trucker, there's always companies hiring for those. I have a decent job where I had to get my class b for our feed truck, figure I could probably get a job with it fairly easy(knock on wood) if I were to get fired.

glockman97420
04-29-2013, 18:42
Become a trucker, there's always companies hiring for those. I have a decent job where I had to get my class b for our feed truck, figure I could probably get a job with it fairly easy(knock on wood) if I were to get fired.

That is exactly why I have kept my Class A all these years. I don't want to drive again, but I will if I lose my current job.
To the OP, I hope another opportunity comes your way soon.

Gixxerjoe04
04-29-2013, 19:20
That is exactly why I have kept my Class A all these years. I don't want to drive again, but I will if I lose my current job.
To the OP, I hope another opportunity comes your way soon.

Yea I wouldn't want to do it but to pay the bills I would, wish I had my A just because of the options but unless you know someone with a truck it seems you'd have to go to a school and pay a bunch of money to get one.

NMG26
04-29-2013, 19:49
You know I've heard that line before and it is the BIGGEST LOAD OF PIG **** IN HISTORY.

There's nothing MORE PERSONAL than losing your job, and if I have to explain that to you then it's exceedingly sad that you can be that disconnected.


Pisses me off every time.

The last time was the easiest because my part time became my full time. Now I'm not willing to work two jobs so it will be a bummer when it happens again.

Thinking about moving the next time.

.

plp
04-29-2013, 20:44
Men define themselves by what they do, hardwired into us from the hunter/gatherer days.

It is always a kick in the jewels to be laid off or fired, has only happened to me once in 26 years in construction and land surveying, still bit even though it was due to the company going bankrupt. I've left voluntarily every time since, to take another, better job.

Get out there and keep pounding the pavement, a day spent feeling sorry for yourself is a day wasted when you could be looking for work. Keep an open mind, don't be afraid to take something out of your skillset and remember, a minimum wage part time job is still money coming in. At one time I was working 3 part time jobs. A year later I was only working one of them, but making twice as much as I was at all three.

As Woody Allen said, 75 per cent of success is just showing up.

Jake514
04-29-2013, 20:58
Yea I wouldn't want to do it but to pay the bills I would, wish I had my A just because of the options but unless you know someone with a truck it seems you'd have to go to a school and pay a bunch of money to get one.

If you really can drive, back up, etc. you can always rent a truck to take the "A" commercial test.

sierrafast
04-29-2013, 21:08
This really blows.. I hope something comes along soon.

ChuteTheMall
04-29-2013, 21:57
No, you voted for Obama because you threw your vote away to that idiot RINO Romney.

I voted for the most qualified individual: Gary Johnson.

I'm sorry, I thought you actually voted for Obama.

Edited for truth:

Apology rescinded, because fnfalman previously admitted that he voted for Obama. There is no truth in him.

http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1463205&page=4

:deadhorse:

skeeter7
04-29-2013, 23:35
Sorry about the job loss. Hope you can get something else soon. Keep your head up and hang in there.

devildog2067
04-30-2013, 00:02
Very true. Not like it used to be.
Exactly how it used to be, through almost all of human history except the slice that your dad lived through.

Nowadays, even the best employees are nothing more than just another disposable asset as soon as they're not needed.

That's simply not true. There are companies out there today that invest in their people just as companies have always done. There are companies that will stick by you because you are valuable, just as there have always been.

There are also companies that will fire you if you get sick to save on their health insurance costs, or cut corners with safety equipment to save costs, or weasel out of paying you benefits they owe you... just like there have always been.

How much an employee is worth depends on the value they create and how hard they would be to replace. Just as it has always been. Companies only treat employees like disposable assets if they are, in fact, fairly disposable. Talent gets treated well no matter where you go.

Green_Manelishi
04-30-2013, 09:17
Companies only treat employees like disposable assets if they are, in fact, fairly disposable. Talent gets treated well no matter where you go.

Not always true. Management dictates how employees will be treated. I've seen both sides the coin; employees valued and treated well, and employees treated poorly and not valued at all. Sometimes even within the same company, depending on who was the manager.

gigab1te
04-30-2013, 09:58
Sorry about the job. I hope you find something soon.

GD2J
04-30-2013, 09:59
There are also organizations out there who give even the mouth-breathing, paycheck-collecting, do-nothings chance after chance and the benefit of the doubt even after those individuals show they are in it only for themselves.

badge315
04-30-2013, 10:05
Did more work than anyone else, never late, never missed work. Kept my head down. Never complained...

Still not good enough..

So when are you going to figure it out? Might as well slack off, show up whenever it's convenient for you and piss and moan the whole time; it would seem that you couldn't do any worse with that approach. :wavey:

P99er
04-30-2013, 10:53
Hard work seldom gets you anywhere. Politics do. I say that from experience.

Guys I work with spend more time on the internet, and falsifying documentation than they do actually working. If anyone were to get cut, it would be me. I don't "fit in".

SevenSixtyTwo
04-30-2013, 17:01
Sounds like this layoff was personal. I've seen it many times over the decades I've worked for the same company. Sheet is an acquired taste. Once you learn to like it, you will succeed.

Detectorist
04-30-2013, 17:37
I'll find something else, soon. From the time I arrived, I saw the incompetence of management. I had a bad feeling. I would have been happy to stay just one more week.

Thanks for all the positive thoughts!

Atlas
04-30-2013, 18:09
I'll find something else, soon. From the time I arrived, I saw the incompetence of management. ...

Oh, yeah. I think I know just the place you're talking about here.



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