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HerrGlock
04-30-2013, 07:13
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/pro-gun-native-american-billboard-draws-criticism-19066525#.UX_CpZ8m9CQ

HerrGlock
04-30-2013, 07:23
http://www.ankylosaur.com/images/turninyourguns.jpg

garyo
04-30-2013, 07:42
I do not understand why anybody would be angry at that or could call it racist. Very profound.

Zombie Surgeon
04-30-2013, 07:52
Truth upsets liberals.
Nothing new here.

Posted from my free Obamaphone

itstime
04-30-2013, 07:55
If my wife and I didn't read this rubbish everyday we wouldn't have anything to talk about. LOL. What is going on!!!!!! I see nothing wrong with it. People and their feelings now. Dang.

glockrod
04-30-2013, 08:35
The original people screwed by the American govt!

What people don't realize is that the entire right wing(Repubs, Teaparty, etc) that are generally considered the gun rights supportive group is having exactly the same thing done to us, just 125-200+/- years later.

Divide, conquer, disarm.

All of this while the majority of conservatives are the only thing actually supporting and contributing to this country.

I feel like I must be part Indian.

Ricky Ricardo
04-30-2013, 08:50
I have an uncle by marriage who's American Indian, I called him to ask what he thought, he said he had no problem with it.

In fact he likes the billboard. Of course, he's just one voice.

HerrGlock
04-30-2013, 08:51
I'm Eastern Cherokee and I approve of this billboard :supergrin:

TK-421
04-30-2013, 08:55
I do not understand why anybody would be angry at that or could call it racist. Very profound.

If you ever point out the truth in something like that, you're instantly deemed a racist. Liberal wussies don't want to hear the truth, they want to hear whatever will make them feel good.

Steve0853
04-30-2013, 08:57
Truth upsets liberals.
Nothing new here.

That's exactly what's going on.

coastal4974
04-30-2013, 09:05
I have high cheekbones and I approve the billboard.

HerrGlock
04-30-2013, 09:11
If anyone's interested in a bit of history on this subject:

http://georgetownlawjournal.org/articles/indians-and-guns/

glock_19guy1983
04-30-2013, 09:17
Im 1/64 choctaw and I approve of that bilboard:supergrin::supergrin:

kahrcarrier
04-30-2013, 09:19
At least they get a Gov. check?

LSUAdman
04-30-2013, 09:21
Being part Native American, I can say this doesnt bother me. In fact, I'd go out and say it doesnt bother the vast number of NAs. However, like anything else, the vast number of anything doesnt equal the loud, shrill voices of angry liberal white women.

Plus, I can tell you that the tribe I am affiliated with has as corrupt a government as you can imagine.

Big Bird
04-30-2013, 09:31
I'm Eastern Cherokee and I approve of this billboard :supergrin:

Aren't you related to Sen. Elizabeth Warren?:supergrin:

Foxterriermom
04-30-2013, 09:40
I don't see anything wrong with it, but I just heard from my SIL who said their was a piece on Fox News and a Native is upset over the sign.

Bill Powell
04-30-2013, 09:43
I am native american, (I was born in this country, as were my ancestors) and I approve.

HerrGlock
04-30-2013, 09:47
Aren't you related to Sen. Elizabeth Warren?:supergrin:

-er- No.

OldSchool64
04-30-2013, 09:56
I heard about this on my local news/talk radio station, must be getting a lot of coverage now. It sure sends a message.

I also have some Native American blood in my & I also approve.

NorthCarolinaLiberty
04-30-2013, 10:00
What is really funny is that the criticizing people don't see the humor. It's just a takeoff on the old bumper sticker, "Sure you can trust the government. Just ask an Indian." If anything, it's pro Indian.

Marketing ain't for everybody, I guess.

mixflip
04-30-2013, 10:06
I have an uncle by marriage who's American Indian, I called him to ask what he thought, he said he had no problem with it.

In fact he likes the billboard. Of course, he's just one voice.

Im part Montana Blackfoot and I like the billboard.

I like it because its true. When the power is out, phone lines are down and the police are over loaded with other calls and cant respond...citizens should be able to defend themselves with the very best tool for the job.

oldman11
04-30-2013, 10:11
Good sign, I like it. Kind of tells it like it is doesn't it?

janice6
04-30-2013, 10:18
They, as well as Blacks are proof that the government will take your civil rights just because they can.

It's not about guns, it's about control.

rednoved
04-30-2013, 10:22
I gamble at their casinos, and I approve this message.

ezthumper
04-30-2013, 10:24
Im part Montana Blackfoot and I like the billboard.

I like it because its true. When the power is out, phone lines are down and the police are over loaded with other calls and cant respond...citizens should be able to defend themselves with the very best tool for the job.

I too, am Blackfoot...and our ancestors have seen this disarming thing before....

OctoberRust
04-30-2013, 10:52
I'm 100% white, but I did stay at the holiday inn express, and usually date hispanic women which make them around 50% native, which would in turn make me 50% native (kind of like when you have black friends)

So I approve this message.

wjv
04-30-2013, 11:27
She said it's not as if Native Americans just gave up their guns and wound up on reservations.

Nah. . It's not like that had to send the Army out to "disarm the natives", or that there were any kind of Indian wars or anything like that. . .

Fastbear
04-30-2013, 11:44
Wife is part Cherokee. She likes all legal pro gun people. Sometimes she even tolerates me.

chewybaca67
04-30-2013, 17:14
Being part Native American, I can say this doesnt bother me. In fact, I'd go out and say it doesnt bother the vast number of NAs. However, like anything else, the vast number of anything doesnt equal the loud, shrill voices of angry liberal white women.

Plus, I can tell you that the tribe I am affiliated with has as corrupt a government as you can imagine.

As a Navajo cat, I agree. I like the photo. Which is why, as a student of history....not to mention gettin' shot at, is why I am a very well armed Native American. The photo is misleading as most of us Navajo, particularly on the Rez are armed. But there was them times when it was illegal for us to own firearms, and practice our religion (till 1978), and raise our children.

OMEGA5
04-30-2013, 18:02
truth upsets liberals.
Nothing new here.

Posted from my free obamaphone

amen!

railfancwb
04-30-2013, 18:38
At least they get a Gov. check?

American Indian reservations are, generally speaking, the most impoverished communities in the United States.


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Ronny
04-30-2013, 18:41
The billboard's point is valid. Hurt feelings are a good thing. The only crime is to shirk from controversy.

railfancwb
04-30-2013, 19:08
I am native american, (I was born in this country, as were my ancestors) and I approve.

Likewise.

Both parents supposedly had an American Indian grandparent, which - if documentable - would make me more Indian than Elizabeth Warren. And this really matters how?


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chewybaca67
04-30-2013, 19:11
At least they get a Gov. check?

Myth. I have NEVER-EVER received "Gov" check for being Navajo. The Navajo scholarship I did get was from our money made by selling coal from our lands. Other tribes that do get "monthly/quarterly checks" are from their casino revenues. I hope this helps your opinion of us. We ain't the thieving, stealing, drunk, leeching savages many make us out to be.

glockeglock
04-30-2013, 19:54
......

Ronny
04-30-2013, 20:06
Myth. I have NEVER-EVER received "Gov" check for being Navajo. The Navajo scholarship I did get was from our money made by selling coal from our lands. Other tribes that do get "monthly/quarterly checks" are from their casino revenues. I hope this helps your opinion of us. We ain't the thieving, stealing, drunk, leeching savages many make us out to be.

Native Indians are also currently being robbed of royalty monies kept for "management" by daddy war bucks. That is not even mentioning that all the land they were robbed of is not considered theirs for royalty purposes either.

M2 Carbine
04-30-2013, 20:12
I like it.

stevelyn
04-30-2013, 20:14
As an honorary Athabascan that's slept with a lot of native women, I approve of the content of the message.

Hej Hej
04-30-2013, 20:22
If you ever point out the truth in something like that, you're instantly deemed a racist. Liberal wussies don't want to hear the truth, they want to hear whatever will make them feel good.

What he said..........

NMG26
04-30-2013, 20:32
Ibtl?

G17Jake
04-30-2013, 20:59
I like it.

chewybaca67
04-30-2013, 21:01
Reminds me of the phrase, "Indian giver." Native Americans became upset over the phrase and we were coached against saying it anymore. I don't understand why Native Americans were upset. The phrase referred to the US government's habit of giving land to the tribes and then taking it back. The insulted party was the US government, not the Native Americans, yet it was the Native Americans who got upset about it.


True, but it's context has been redone to current implication. Too bad few know much about history, for all folks in the country.

Best definition of racism is based on experience, not opinion. Typically from an incident in which one's dignity is refuted. A good difinition of dignity is simply that one matters. When one, or a whole ethnicity of people, are treated as if their religion, experience, cultural practices, freedom to raise thier own children, freedom to live where they want, to be treated equally, freedom to bare arms, etc, etc, is violated, or defined by some one else who doesn't have clue, then you have the USA in it's current state. Unfortiunately, many seem to confuse entitlement with dignity. Cluster F really.

F350
04-30-2013, 21:13
Few years ago I bought a T-shirt on an Indian reservation, in a shop run by the tribe; it had a picture of 4 armed Indians and the caption was "THE ORIGINAL HOMELAND SECURITY".

Here in Colorado I haven't heard much against the signs; I think it is just one hyper-sensitive (witch) making noise.

SpectreRider
04-30-2013, 21:22
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_23130313/native-americans-incensed-over-pro-gun-billboard

"Greeley resident Kerri Salazar, who is of Native American descent, said she was livid when she learned about it. She said she doesn’t have a problem with the gun rights message, but she’s offended the Native American people were singled out, apparently without their consent (http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_23130313/native-americans-incensed-over-pro-gun-billboard)."


Umm.... Singled out for the billboard or the relocation camps?

janice6
04-30-2013, 21:30
Native Indians are also currently being robbed of royalty monies kept for "management" by daddy war bucks. That is not even mentioning that all the land they were robbed of is not considered theirs for royalty purposes either.


It's about control. No principles involved.

427
04-30-2013, 21:46
Native Indians are also currently being robbed of royalty monies kept for "management" by daddy war bucks. That is not even mentioning that all the land they were robbed of is not considered theirs for royalty purposes either.
There's a settlement from the cobell v. salazar case for 3.4 billion.

427
04-30-2013, 21:52
Myth. I have NEVER-EVER received "Gov" check for being Navajo. The Navajo scholarship I did get was from our money made by selling coal from our lands. Other tribes that do get "monthly/quarterly checks" are from their casino revenues. I hope this helps your opinion of us. We ain't the thieving, stealing, drunk, leeching savages many make us out to be.

I'm half - my mom is from Taos - and no we are not.

Harper
04-30-2013, 22:23
from the article...
Greeley resident Maureen Brucker, who has worked with Native American organizations and who frequents the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation in South Dakota as an honorary family member, said she thinks the billboards are making light of atrocities the federal government committed against Native Americans.

She said the billboard brings to her mind one of the most horrendous examples of that, the Wounded Knee Massacre on the Pine Ridge Reservation in 1890.

I think you have to be anti-gun to make that statement; otherwise you see it as a history lesson which, ironically, she then brings up a great example from history inspired by the billboard...unreal.