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Aquagear
04-02-2014, 16:57
I have a chance to pick up a hardly used Dillon 650. My friend bought it, loaded about 200 rounds on it the whole process kind of scared him. The press is set up for 45 acp no case feeder, but it comes with a digital scale, caliper, and some components. He wants $350.00 for it. Money is kind of tight right now, but it sounds to good to pass up. Any thoughts?:wavey:

WeeWilly
04-02-2014, 17:27
I have a chance to pick up a hardly used Dillon 650. My friend bought it, loaded about 200 rounds on it the whole process kind of scared him. The press is set up for 45 acp no case feeder, but it comes with a digital scale, caliper, and some components. He wants $350.00 for it. Money is kind of tight right now, but it sounds to good to pass up. Any thoughts?:wavey:


Deal of the century. If you don't want it I will take it, you aren't in Nigeria are you? ;)


Keep in mind that you will want a case feeder pretty soon, but even if you let it sit for a decade, you will make money when you sell it.

Aquagear
04-02-2014, 17:38
Thanks for the feedback, I am in the gun friendly state of Nevada. It sounded good to me, just wanted some positive reinforcement.:wavey:

misunderestimated
04-02-2014, 17:41
I am a new reloader, I purchase a 650 and love it. I can tell you if you are new to reloading there is allot of stuff going on all at once on a 650 and it makes your head hurt. that being said its a high quality machine meant to last an eternity and even if your not ready you start using it it sounds like a great investment

Aquagear
04-02-2014, 17:55
I have been loading on a Lee Loadmaster for over 15 years, always wanted to move up to a Dillon, but the cost stopped me.
The Lee can be troublesome at times, if I can run it the 650 should be no trouble at all.

blastfact
04-02-2014, 17:56
Have you bought it yet?

Taterhead
04-02-2014, 18:11
Holy crap. If you don't buy it, tell your friend ill give him $400 for it.

That's a subtle way of saying that you should buy it before he changes his mind.

bush pilot
04-02-2014, 19:03
I have been loading on a Lee Loadmaster for over 15 years, always wanted to move up to a Dillon, but the cost stopped me.
The Lee can be troublesome at times, if I can run it the 650 should be no trouble at all.

Loadmaster to 650 is like moving from a skateboard to a Lamborghini

Benton
04-02-2014, 19:10
I have a chance to pick up a hardly used Dillon 650. My friend bought it, loaded about 200 rounds on it the whole process kind of scared him. The press is set up for 45 acp no case feeder, but it comes with a digital scale, caliper, and some components. He wants $350.00 for it. Money is kind of tight right now, but it sounds to good to pass up. Any thoughts?:wavey:

Get it now. If you don't have all of the $350.00 now, give him what you have now to hold it, and the rest later.

You wont be sorry you bought it.

Aquagear
04-02-2014, 19:24
Thanks guys I new it was a good deal, you just convinced me With all the positive feed back.

jmorris
04-02-2014, 19:48
I sold one last May for more than $1800. Hard to go wrong with $350, I have seen SD's go for that used.

fredj338
04-02-2014, 21:23
Pick up alum cans or work some extra a hours, that deal is too good to pass up.

Murphy's Law
04-03-2014, 05:50
Odds are your friend will realize what he actually has and want $800+. You'd be wise to see your bank immediately for a loan and buy it immediately!

IndyGunFreak
04-03-2014, 06:06
Keep in mind that you will want a case feeder pretty soon, but even if you let it sit for a decade, you will make money when you sell it.

A decade? He could probably buy it, and flip it tomorrow and make a $100 bucks no problem.

Dude, $350?!?!

Beg, borrow from family, sell blood, or your body to science if need be.. heck I might even advocate PayDay Loans for that deal..lol (ok, not really)... That is an outstanding deal. Figure you're going to put the case feed on it at some point, which will be about $260... but even then, you've got a 650 completely set up for under $700?

GO, NOW! :)

Beanie-Bean
04-03-2014, 06:19
Great deal...go get it!

colin1230
04-03-2014, 13:01
Why can't I run into deals like that?

Have you bought it yet?

Aquagear
04-03-2014, 19:07
Thanks again for all the positive feed back, my wife is getting it for my birthday. Yes I am one happy camper.:supergrin:

Pythonman
04-03-2014, 20:28
Good for you man! I got mine a year ago or so after loading single stage for 20yrs. I have it set up only for .45acp so far and it's awesome. I initially had some hangups with primers getting stuck or flipping in the large primer feed tube but the fix was SIMPLE. All I had to do was run a couple of cotton patches soaked in alcohol to clean out the manufacturing residue/oils inside the primer feed tubes and primer pickup tubes, clean the whole primer feed assembly and relube where required. Haven't had one hiccup since and all the while I got to know the machine inside and out literally. Order the Dillon XL650 DVD and the manual if you don't have it and don't be afraid. It's an amazing machine and you'll be up and running in no time. If you don't have the casefeeder yet you can still load fine but keep an eye on the casefeed tube because it runs empty fast. With the five stages of the 650 you can leave station three empty or install some sort of powder check. I'm using the RCBS Progressive Lock Out Die which is adjustable for most calibers/powder weights and it's great for piece of mind that your loaded rounds have the proper amount of powder. You can look it up on Youtube to see how it works and there are numerous clips of the XL650 as well. Good luck!

cheygriz
04-03-2014, 21:33
And just as quickly as you can save the money, get the automatic case feeder.

SpringerTGO
04-04-2014, 15:16
You are going to love that machine. The other day I was out of ammo, and a friend wanted to go shooting after work. 200 rounds was nothing to produce in a matter of minutes.
Do save for the case feeder, and if you load 45's, watch out for 40 brass. You'll see why after loading with it.

Pythonman
04-04-2014, 16:37
You are going to love that machine. The other day I was out of ammo, and a friend wanted to go shooting after work. 200 rounds was nothing to produce in a matter of minutes.
Do save for the case feeder, and if you load 45's, watch out for 40 brass. You'll see why after loading with it.
Even worse is 45acp brass with small primer pockets!! I detest and destroy that crap!!

Rico567
04-06-2014, 05:32
If you want to get into progressive reloading, this is a super deal and, having use the 650 for 7 years, I can recommend it highly*. If you plan on changing up calibers a lot (doing short runs of a given type) the 550 is probably better, but I'm thinking at these prices you can get the 650 and try it, if you don't like it, sell it and buy an nice new 550 and probably have money left over.

*I started doing runs of no less than 1,000 rounds of a given caliber after getting my 650. No matter what anyone else says, the caliber changes are not trivial.

Texasteel
04-06-2014, 06:12
pics or this was all just a story to make us jealous.

Bigfoot, sea monsters, ghost and now add to the list, $300 Dillons... yeah right:tongueout:

cheygriz
04-07-2014, 08:08
not[/I] trivial.

I use my 650 for batches of 1,000 (Or even 2000) ever since I got it. My RL450 or my Redding single stage are used for small batches.

Flyin560
04-07-2014, 08:14
I use my 650 for batches of 1,000 (Or even 2000) ever since I got it. My RL450 or my Redding single stage are used for small batches.

Gah... I need a 650 :shocked:

jmorris
04-07-2014, 22:13
It's almost Wednesday...

The way a 650 should load 45.
http://s121.photobucket.com/user/jmorrismetal/media/reloading/bullet%20feeder/VID_20130305_152550_802_zps7819706b.mp4.html

The way a 1050 can load them even with SPP brass in the collator.

http://s664.photobucket.com/user/qvideo/media/VID_20131019_144919_066_zps63db164a.mp4.html

Angry Fist
04-07-2014, 23:09
I'd be on that like stink on ****.

Aquagear
04-11-2014, 21:34
Thanks again for all the positive feedback, its mounted on the bench and I just loaded a box of 45s. It is going to take some getting use to, it works great, just different than the loadmaster. :supergrin:

Taterhead
04-11-2014, 22:47
Congrats!

Pierre!
04-12-2014, 09:22
Nice Find Aquagear!

You will enjoy the heck out of the 650. Finally making the decision to set mine back up and get loading.

Those berms in your Avatar located somewhere in the Washoe County Regional Shooting facility??? :cool:

I'll be out to WNPL tomorrow for Action Pistol... my reason, my need, to setup my 650 once again!

Take your time with the 650, be safe, and if you ever want to know how to blow one up, lemme know! LOL

Patrick

Colorado4Wheel
04-12-2014, 09:50
It is going to take some getting use to, it works great, just different than the loadmaster. :supergrin:


Oh,so many things to say.:rofl:


I will just say congratulations to avoid pissing off uncle don.

Aquagear
04-12-2014, 16:53
Nice Find Aquagear!

You will enjoy the heck out of the 650. Finally making the decision to set mine back up and get loading.

Those berms in your Avatar located somewhere in the Washoe County Regional Shooting facility??? :cool:

I'll be out to WNPL tomorrow for Action Pistol... my reason, my need, to setup my 650 once again!

Take your time with the 650, be safe, and if you ever want to know how to blow one up, lemme know! LOL

Patrick

Yep I am the IDPA match director out there, come out and play
we try to put on a fun show.:cool:

Aquagear
04-12-2014, 16:57
Oh,so many things to say.:rofl:


I will just say congratulations to avoid pissing off uncle don.

Actually I have always enjoyed Uncle Don's posts, his advice is always straight forward no bs stuff.

Colorado4Wheel
04-12-2014, 18:38
Yes he is. But our feelings about the LM vary greatly. But this is America and we are allowed to do that.

Three-Five-Seven
04-12-2014, 18:39
No matter what anyone else says, the caliber changes are not trivial.

Agree completely!

Colorado4Wheel
04-12-2014, 19:31
They are not bad IF and that is a big IF, you don't have to switch primer sizes. You do get used to it.

Aquagear
04-20-2014, 10:33
Just did the caliber swap to 9mm. I used my lee dies from my old loadmaster, including my Lee powder measure. The Change over was not bad at all, I got a new tool head so swapping out between calibers will be easier in the future. I work with machinery for a living in the printing business, so changing out setups is a daily routine. Thanks again for all the feedback. This thing runs like a dream I am loving it, should have done this sooner.:supergrin:

unclebob
04-20-2014, 11:08
Get yourself another complete primer assembly and set one up and adjusted for 9mm and the other for 45, Start from the top and remove all the parts that need to be removed then start from the bottom and work your way back up add the parts. If you already have the powder measure set up. Not including adding powder or filling primer tubes. In a short period of time you can do a caliber conversion in about 8 minutes.

Aquagear
04-20-2014, 14:36
That is my plan, I load 5 pistol calibers 45, 40, 9mm, 38, and 32 s&w long, on the progressive press. I am going to start setting
the 650 up the same way a caliber at a time as, I can afford it. I have all the lee dies I just need tool heads and conversion kits. The Lee pro auto disk works well, so dose the Dillon, so I have my choice there to save a buck or two.:wavey:

unclebob
04-21-2014, 06:35
That is my plan, I load 5 pistol calibers 45, 40, 9mm, 38, and 32 s&w long, on the progressive press. I am going to start setting
the 650 up the same way a caliber at a time as, I can afford it. I have all the lee dies I just need tool heads and conversion kits. The Lee pro auto disk works well, so dose the Dillon, so I have my choice there to save a buck or two.:wavey:

Just remember when using the Lee powder measure that it does not provide the safety of preventing a double charge as the Dillon powder measure fail safe system does.

jmorris
04-21-2014, 08:14
The Lee pro auto disk works well, so dose the Dillon, so I have my choice there to save a buck or two.

What I do to save both money and time is just buy extra powder bars and swap them out. All it takes is to back off one socket head cap screw to swap them, after the measure is empty. Just don't loose the little plastic square.

unclebob
04-21-2014, 08:29
What I do to save both money and time is just buy extra powder bars and swap them out. All it takes is to back off one socket head cap screw to swap them, after the measure is empty. Just don't loose the little plastic square.

For the small bar you don't even have to do that. Just pull the plastic plug remove the spacer bar, left and pull out the powder bar.

Aquagear
04-21-2014, 20:46
Just remember when using the Lee powder measure that it does not provide the safety of preventing a double charge as the Dillon powder measure fail safe system does.

You have a good point there, I am running on a tight budget so a total upgrade will take a while. I would like to have the press set up all Dillon eventually. For now I will just have to watch the process carefully to avoid any trouble.

wlkjr
04-21-2014, 21:26
I love mine. I bought it used but it works great. I have a complete toolhead set up for 9, 10, 45, and 380. It is expensive doing that but is worth it in the long run if you can afford it and loading a lot. Changing out the primer assembly is not all that bad but I would like to have another one to simplify that procedure. I'm a 650 fan for sure.

ranger1968
04-21-2014, 21:28
I need to move near some of you guys, always getting these killer deals; man, I would be all over that deal.