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leeward419
05-04-2014, 06:19
Anyone here use this load?

Planning on loading Zero 230 FMJ with 6.0 GR Unique

I am looking to confirm OAL, I am calculating an OAL of 1.260

Also any idea of FPS with this load.

Am loading these to shoot in my New Gen 4 G30.
I typically use LRN for my 1911, haven't loaded any 45ACP FMJ to date.

Checked the 1.260 in the barrel, seems to work well,
will let you know how this sheets


thank you in advance

uzimon
05-04-2014, 17:44
I loaded unique to 6.2 with xtreme plated 230rn and it was pretty snappy.
Will dial it back to 5.7

Ps: idk if youve ever used unique or what your equipment is but with my lee ppm I was getting wide variance in charge so I did the air pump mod
http://i61.tinypic.com/2latycl.jpg
Perfect flow achieved

newgene
05-04-2014, 18:54
I load a Precision Delta 230 with 6.0 Unique to 1.26. Runs flawless in my G21, XDM, 1911, and XDS. I can't tell the difference between that and most factory ammo.

WeeWilly
05-04-2014, 23:34
I tend to load my Unique loads to max book. While that many times yields a pretty stout load, it also seems to helps with a little cleaner burn. I have loaded 6.0gr of Unique under 230gr plated/jacketed and got fine results, I always use 1.265" as my OAL with 230gr RN bullets.

From memory, I think 6gr of Unique will send a 230gr slug about 800fps out of my 1911's (5" barrel). Pretty normal kind of velocities for 45 auto and 230gr slugs.

leeward419
05-05-2014, 04:34
I am using Dillon 550B, Measures pretty well for a flakey powder,
I tried a test batch at 15 yards, all shot to POA.

Hornady shows 6.1 Max Book for 230 FMJ
The Sierra Manual goes well beyond that for 230 FMJ,

I am curious re the difference in the manuals (bullet, older vs newer manuals and updated powders etc)I am sticking with the 6.0 for now.

I haven't tried these at 25 yards yet, if they shoot at 20 or 25 yards like they did at 15 I will be a happy guy.

Thank you for sharing the input on the OAL and load.

DoctaGlockta
05-07-2014, 11:33
I think you can use 6 grains of Unique for almost anything and it will work.

Rinspeed
05-16-2014, 23:10
I've reloaded and shot a bunch of Zero 230 FMJ with 6.0 gr Unique but the last couple of batches I've loaded I went down to 5.8 or 5.7.

leeward419
05-17-2014, 03:18
Rinspeed,how did the lighter loads work? why did you reduce them from 6?

Gtn
05-17-2014, 06:27
Xtreme 230gr HP's @1.26 with 6.0gr of Unique is my favorite load. Gives me 860 fps out of my G21. Very accurate without a lot of recoil

Rinspeed
05-17-2014, 10:33
Rinspeed,how did the lighter loads work? why did you reduce them from 6?



They work just fine and obviously produce just a little less recoil. Most of my shooting is on steel so I don't really notice any difference in accuracy. According to my speer book the min is 5.5 Gr. for 728 fps and the max is 6.5 for 832, all my 230 FMJ loads are at 1.26.

WeeWilly
05-17-2014, 10:45
...Hornady shows 6.1 Max Book for 230 FMJ
The Sierra Manual goes well beyond that for 230 FMJ,

I am curious re the difference in the manuals (bullet, older vs newer manuals and updated powders etc)I am sticking with the 6.0 for now.

There are a lot of reasons why different sources list different max loads. Some of it different bullets (within type), some of it differences in conditions, test equipment used, changes in powder formulation, etc.

Test equipment has gotten better over time and liability concerns always grow (like government debt), so more recent load data tends to be more conservative than older data for the same load (not always, just generally speaking).

I think finally, this hobby is not nearly as precise as many would like to believe. There are things you can do to make it more precise, but in the end, there are a lot of moving parts.

The good news is there is a pretty big margin of safety built in to the load data. Less with fast powders and big bullets, but generally quite a bit more than what all the admonishments you read would lead you to believe.

I have loaded a lot of rounds in my time and never seen a gun broken by a published max load of any bullet or powder manufacturer.

Photoman642
05-17-2014, 12:14
I think finally, this hobby is not nearly as precise as many would like to believe.

I definitely agree with that. I use a Little Dandy powder measure and go by the chart. I've scaled the loads a time or two over the years to make sure they are not over the top but generally have no idea how much actual powder I'm using. :wow: :supergrin:

uzimon
05-18-2014, 15:02
Yeah once you eyeball enough full cases you get to know whats safe

gwalchmai
05-18-2014, 15:37
230 FMJ over 6.3gr of Unique @ 1.26 is my goto GI Hardball equivalent. I've shot thousands in 1911s, 625, and Blackhawks.