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J Lee
05-17-2014, 19:04
Before I buy 40 cal coated lead bullets, should I get an aftermaket barrel for my G23? Just wondering if anyone has had leading issues using bullets with the Hi-Tek coating.

unclebob
05-17-2014, 19:13
I have been using the Bayou bullets in 9mm, and 45acp with no problems in stock barrels.

WeeWilly
05-17-2014, 19:38
I have shot SNS coated through my G21SF stock barrel and my G29/29SF stock barrels. No lead anywhere.

But then, I shoot lead from most of my stock barrels, the only leading I have seen that was any worst than a similar traditional rifled barrel was when I was way out of bounds loading some nuclear 45 Supers, otherwise I have not seen anything to dissuade me from shooting lead from my stock Glock barrels.

J Lee
05-18-2014, 13:11
Thanks for the help. Going to give the SNS 180s a try.

FLSlim
05-18-2014, 14:02
I have been using the Bayou bullets in 9mm, and 45acp with no problems in stock barrels.


Same here & success with BBI as well.



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SJ 40
05-18-2014, 14:12
I've always shot traditionally lubed cast bullets from my OEM barrels with no associated problems. SJ 40

unclebob
05-18-2014, 14:53
I've always shot traditionally lubed cast bullets from my OEM barrels with no associated problems. SJ 40

Trouble is they produce to much smoke.

WeeWilly
05-18-2014, 18:39
Thanks for the help. Going to give the SNS 180s a try.

Also give the 175gr LSWC a try, they make such nice round holes... ;). That is what I load almost exclusively for my 40/10 target loads.

Beanie-Bean
05-18-2014, 20:52
I like Bayou Bullets (with the green coating) a lot. No issues shooting through any of my Glocks.

SJ 40
05-19-2014, 10:44
Trouble is they produce to much smoke.Too much smoke,not to a black powder cartridge shooter they are down right,well Smokeless,Almost. :supergrin: SJ 40

ken grant
05-19-2014, 14:55
Also give the 175gr LSWC a try, they make such nice round holes... ;). That is what I load almost exclusively for my 40/10 target loads.

No matter what I do, my .40 Glocks will not work well with LSWC bullets.

The extracting empty catches on the LSWC shoulder of the feeding rd. and fails to eject. You can see the marks on the bullet.

DWARREN123
05-19-2014, 16:16
I have shot lead thru many Glocks and coated lead thru a gen4 G19 with no problems. I have not seen a need for an aftermarket barrel as long as you keep it sane.

WeeWilly
05-19-2014, 17:43
No matter what I do, my .40 Glocks will not work well with LSWC bullets.

The extracting empty catches on the LSWC shoulder of the feeding rd. and fails to eject. You can see the marks on the bullet.

Interesting, I have read others that have had problems with LSWC profiles in various Glock models.

I load the 175gr LSWC in both 40 and 10 versions, but I only shoot them from my G29 and G20, I don't have a 40 chambered Glock. I suppose maybe the longer magazine allows the round to set back far enough to clear the fired case when extracting.

I shoot 200gr LSWC from my G21 as well, flawless function, but I have read others that have problems with this combination as well. I suspect the issues guys have with the 45 auto version is likely more seating depth and crimp issues.

Photoman642
05-19-2014, 18:56
Trouble is they produce to much smoke.

I agree. I shot a lot of moly coated bullets and they smoke like an old locomotive. Not good for indoor ranges! :)

ken grant
05-19-2014, 19:56
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I shoot 200gr LSWC from my G21 as well, flawless function, but I have read others that have problems with this combination as well. I suspect the issues guys have with the 45 auto version is likely more seating depth and crimp issues.[/QUOTE]

I have only shot RN bullets in my G21,21SF & 30 but in my .40's, I have tried different seating depths with the SWC's and the crimp is the same as all the bullets I shoot in them.

unclebob
05-20-2014, 06:16
I agree. I shot a lot of moly coated bullets and they smoke like an old locomotive. Not good for indoor ranges! :)

That just shows you how bad the ventilation system is at that indoor range. If it does not clear out the smoke I would not be using that range.

mboylan
05-20-2014, 10:18
Trouble is they produce to much smoke.

Depends on what powder you are using. Titegroup lays down a smoke screen. WSF, not so much. VV N320 burns cool for such a fast powder.

mboylan
05-20-2014, 10:22
I agree. I shot a lot of moly coated bullets and they smoke like an old locomotive. Not good for indoor ranges! :)

If you are using TiteGroup yeah. It burns hotter than anything else. Try a cooler burning powder with BBI or Bayou instead of normal moly. I have no smoke issues with WSF, Alliant E3 or VV N320.

unclebob
05-20-2014, 11:15
I have been using 3.7 of WSF with the 147 gr. Bayou bullet.
I have been and ROed too many Glock matches where people use plan lead bullets and when there is no breeze you canít hardly even see the targets for all of the smoke. When I use up my X-Treme 185gr and 200gr. 45 bullets I will be going to the 200gr.RN Bayou bullet probably using 231, Or Clays.
I tried the Blue bullets with the powder coating. You could see chunks of the powder coating flying around when the bullet left the barrel.
I have only shot a little over 2000 of the Bayou bullets. No leading and no difference from smoke between the Bayou bullets and the X-Treme bullets

PCJim
05-21-2014, 08:12
I've been shooting the 229-40 almost exclusively for the past year with 155gr LSWC over WST. The bullets have a blue lube; haven't asked my supplier what lube he's using. There is some smoke, but not enough to complain about.

Down in my neck of the river of grass, we kinda consider the smoke as a means to help keep the skeeters at bay.

Lt. Donn
05-21-2014, 14:49
I agree with the previous replies...I have shot tens of thousands of rounds of lead thru my G-19, 26 & 21 without issue...I know, Glock warns about using lead in OEM Barrels...but as the other posts state, keep them hard-cast and keep the velocity "sane" and they will shoot fine

Lindenwood
05-22-2014, 15:37
Add another to the list of those who have put quite a bit of lead and hardcast through OEM barrels with no issues. Also, more specifically, I have never noted any more leading than with any other barrels.

The issue is some moron probably fired 5000 soft lead bullets, probably over max loads, and never cleaned it. Then he choked out his bore and had a kaboom, sent it to Glock, and they threw out a blanket "no lead bullets through our guns!" to cover their butts.

21 shooter
05-22-2014, 20:58
I've shot a few thousand Bayou 180's with no problems. I've also shot their 147 9mm and 230 45's all with no leading and little or no smoke. I use VV N 320 and 310. I've also been trying out SNS coated bullets and so far they have done well. Also the 180's in a 10mm were extremely accurate.

As unclebob said the smoke from lead bullets can be bad. After a smokescreen on one stage cost me a few seconds I decided coated bullets were worth a few dollars extra.

cbird77
05-22-2014, 21:15
Anyone got a pic of a leaded barrel? I think I getting lead in my XDS barrel...