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JBull
08-02-2003, 09:14
Does anybody load 200 grain bullets in their .40? If so, what kind of loads and velocities are you getting? Generally speaking, can it be done safely?

Thanks

tjpet
08-03-2003, 21:52
Berry's 200 grn. RS w/3.4 grns. WST - Soft, accurate, clean burning IDPA/Minor load. A bit over 800 fps.

Berry's 200 grn. RS w/8.5 grns. AA#7 - Bowling pin/Major load. Accurate and hard hitting. A chronoed 960+ fps from a 4.5" barrel.

As I'm still around after a few thousand reloads it must be a safe practice.

fireslayer23
08-03-2003, 23:25
I'm loading Berry's 200gr RS with 4.2gr of W231 at a 1.220 for my SV, looks like a 10mm round but the Schuemann AET barrels are chambered long, and getting about 650fps.

JBull
08-04-2003, 07:09
Originally posted by tjpet
Berry's 200 grn. RS w/3.4 grns. WST - Soft, accurate, clean burning IDPA/Minor load. A bit over 800 fps.

Berry's 200 grn. RS w/8.5 grns. AA#7 - Bowling pin/Major load. Accurate and hard hitting. A chronoed 960+ fps from a 4.5" barrel.

As I'm still around after a few thousand reloads it must be a safe practice.

Thanks for the info. What pistol/barrel are you shooting these from? I plan on loading these for my G35 with a KKM barrel.

tjpet
08-04-2003, 08:40
I regularly use three .40's:

Glock 22
Glock 23
Browning HP

Except for sights, trigger jobs, and both Glocks having had frame alterations the guns are stock.

Carlitos
08-07-2003, 15:44
WestCost TotalMetalJacket (TMJ) like speer lawman bullet - rounded flatpoint 200 grn in mixed cases sized w/ Lee U die & primed w/ small rifle primers to 1.160" OAL over V V N320 powder - clocking 830FPS out of a Steyr M40 for USPSA/IPSC Major Power Factor.

By the way - the Speer reloading manual explains that they do not list any reloading data for the 200s and they don't recomend shooting them in .40. Go look it up. As Clark would say - It is the individual's responsibility to have a good time.

duncan
08-07-2003, 18:51
Yup and accurate too.

See below - Titegroup steel plates loads - nice. Minimal recoil and they fall!

SteelShootist
04-13-2009, 19:28
WestCost TotalMetalJacket (TMJ) like speer lawman bullet - rounded flatpoint 200 grn in mixed cases sized w/ Lee U die & primed w/ small rifle primers to 1.160" OAL over V V N320 powder - clocking 830FPS out of a Steyr M40 for USPSA/IPSC Major Power Factor.

Ok, but how much N320? I am going from 180 West Coast Bullet (X-Treme Bullet) to 200 grn (got a good deal). I need to know how much powder you have been using to get a lower velocity--say around 750 to 700 fps. I just want them for very light steel loads.

Any help is appreciated...
Thanks!

johnsonabq
04-20-2009, 16:13
Did I see that Speer makes a 200gr. Gold Dot?

gh0st614
04-20-2009, 20:53
I was browsing double taps website and it seemed like the 200gr rounds get about the same ft/lbs as a 9mm. What are the benefits?

Sight
04-23-2009, 18:34
Did I see that Speer makes a 200gr. Gold Dot?
Yes sir , I do see it on thier web site.

SDGlock23
04-23-2009, 20:25
The .40 does pretty good with 200gr bullets. Most shoot them mild, I tend to favor them a little spicier. It's possible to get 200 grainers over 600 ft-lbs.

MarkCO
07-26-2009, 12:25
The .40 does pretty good with 200gr bullets. Most shoot them mild, I tend to favor them a little spicier. It's possible to get 200 grainers over 600 ft-lbs.

Thus the problem. Soft steel loads using 200 grains are fine. The reason is one of physics for both soft and hot 200 grains .40 loads.

The secondary recoil impulse on a soft 200 grain .40 load makes the gun cycle recoil less than a same energy level 9mm. This means you can shoot it faster. For major loads, you will notice all of the top shooters at one point tried 200 grains and went back to 180s for a variety of reasons. The length of the 200 grain slug leaves little to no room for error in case dimensions and powder charge. Even in longer loaded rounds used in 1911/2011s, the velocity variation afftected PFs and accuracy enough that the 180s were a better option. There are no published loads for 200 grain slugs with 600 ft-lbs. Especially out of a Glock, that is a dangerous load. SDGlock23's "possbile" is on a par with it's possible to jump out of a moving car and not get hurt.

Ak.Hiker
07-27-2009, 00:05
Double tap is able to run their 200 grain loads at 1000 or more. I have been testing their 200 grain FMJ in my Glock 40. They are a good choice if you are looking for deep penetration. They cut right spruce logs with ease.

bac1023
07-29-2009, 21:44
Did I see that Speer makes a 200gr. Gold Dot?

I believe so.

SDGlock23
07-29-2009, 22:13
There are no published loads for 200 grain slugs with 600 ft-lbs. Especially out of a Glock, that is a dangerous load. SDGlock23's "possbile" is on a par with it's possible to jump out of a moving car and not get hurt.

7grs 800x and 200gr XTP's (1.130") average more or less right at 1100 fps out of my G22. 1095 fps avg, which is 532 ft-lbs. Cases look fine, primers aren't flattened. It spits the brass pretty well and has healthy recoil. Slip it into a 6" barrel and you can just break 600 ft-lbs. Not a listed load, but I've never had an issue with it.

nolt
10-21-2009, 14:28
Double tap is able to run their 200 grain loads at 1000 or more. I have been testing their 200 grain FMJ in my Glock 40. They are a good choice if you are looking for deep penetration. They cut right spruce logs with ease.

anyone seen any pressure data on these loads? or know what powder they are using?

Ak.Hiker
10-21-2009, 23:05
anyone seen any pressure data on these loads? or know what powder they are using?

Not sure but they recoil about the same as the Speer 180 grain Lawman.

nolt
10-22-2009, 13:07
im more concerned about load pressures than recoil. you know... safety and crap.

Mike at doubletap actually advised me that all of theirs were under 32800psi, which is about where Lawman rounds are.

vikingsoftpaw
10-22-2009, 15:28
I worked up a load using Hornady 200 grain XTP/HP and 9.0 grain of AA9 for a ruger PC-40 carbine. They work really well in my S&W too. Accurate lists them at 860 fps out of a 4" test barrel, 35,000psi.

lee1000
01-03-2010, 18:03
So would recoil be less with a 200gr vs a 165. I shoot a G22 and I'm trying to get the snap out of it? The .45 has a dull recoil and i like that.

Also, do the 200gr manufacturured rounds feed reliably (i don't reload)? Are there any brands to stay away from?

Thanks in advance

Ak.Hiker
01-03-2010, 18:29
So would recoil be less with a 200gr vs a 165. I shoot a G22 and I'm trying to get the snap out of it? The .45 has a dull recoil and i like that.

Also, do the 200gr manufacturured rounds feed reliably (i don't reload)? Are there any brands to stay away from?

Thanks in advance

I have found that the 180 and 200 grain loads are a little less snappy for me in my Glock 22. You may also want to check the balistics of several of the 165 grain loads on the market. Speer loads their Gold Dot and Lawman 165 grain at 1150. They also load a 165 Lawman Clean Fire at 1050. Federal has a Hydra Shok 165 loaded at 980.