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12-12-2003, 15:47
I went hunting last week and killed a dear. I was using a freind's rem 30-06. I am looking to buy my own dear rifle, but I don't really know alot about them. I am more of an ar-15 type of guy. What is a good round to use? My buddies tell me to get a .300 mag. I know at work we use a rem mod 700 in .308, but that is for sniping people not deer. What is a good rifle to get for the $ and give me some input on scopes.


thanks in advance from a city boy.

WalterGA
12-12-2003, 18:11
Originally posted by bandit007
I went hunting last week and killed a dear. I was using a freind's rem 30-06. I am looking to buy my own dear rifle, but I don't really know alot about them. I

city boy: Down heah on Tobaccy Road, we'uns gets into lots of troubles if'n we'ens kills a "dear"! :)

You won't need a .300 Mag unless you're planning on making some really long shots or killing some 400# deer. There's nothing wrong with the 30-06, but you'd do just as well with a .308, and your shoulder wouldn't get thumped quite as bad.

The Remmy's a great rifle, but you'd do yourself a big favor if you took a good look at a Tikka.

Dan
12-12-2003, 21:18
308 does the job. ^c So much of different 308 ammo out there and it's cheap.

f1b32oPTic
12-12-2003, 23:41
id just borrow the duty rifle for the weekend!

if you are used to shooting remmy .308's then that would naturally be the better rifle for you to hunt with.

i had my remmy .308 out in some FOUL weather the other day for about 5 hours, i didnt worry a bit.

sigsrbest
12-13-2003, 04:35
just get one of the savage bolt action synthetic stock package deals in 308/30-06 for about $400.00... its all you really need...

12-13-2003, 05:48
dear rifle? Are you writing it a letter?

Red-Pike
12-13-2003, 07:43
OH DEER!;8 ....... He killed a dear.;M
Donít let it bother you. I married a schoolteacher and I get my grammar corrected all the time..;2

Down here in the South there has been more deer killed with a 30-30 than any other rifle.
I use a 30-06 myself but a 308 will do the job as well. ^c

MrMurphy
12-13-2003, 11:58
The Remington 700 in .308 you use at work (where-ever that is) will work perfectly fine on deer, though I would recommend one of the lighter models (not the PSS) as chunking an 18lb sniper rifle through the woods for a target that doesn't shoot back is kind of nuts. A 700 ADL in .308 with a decent scope (3X9 Leupold maybe) would do just fine.

Esox357
12-13-2003, 13:29
Either one would be perfect. The 308 would get my nod. I ended up with a 30.06 only because thats the only caliber they had my 700 in at the time and I plan on hunting bigger game with it one day. Both will kill deer as fast as anything else as long as you place it in the vitals. Post back on what you get. Take Care Esox357

Alchemy
12-13-2003, 13:55
a 308 or 30:06 will make a fine deer rifle for you. Please forget
about the 300 mag, your trying to kill the deer not blow it up!

Remington,Ruger or Tikka all make fine rifles. Do yourself a favor
though, don't skimp on the scope. Get yourself a 3x9 Leupold.

txgolfer45
12-13-2003, 19:24
Really, there are quite a few calibers that would work well for you. .308, 30-06, .270, .243, and on and on. I happen to like my Remington 700 ADL in .270. Something people didn't mention is the scope. Get as good a scope as you can afford. I bought a Leopold VX-I in 3-9X40 and it works great for me.

Scott

mudfootball
12-13-2003, 20:46
That is alot of rifle and not fun on the range a'tall. A little personal endorsment from about 3:00 o'clock this after noon. 15 deer walked by about 60 yds away. I pointed my browning BLR .308 at a good sized antlerless one and when they stopped Kaboom! Blood trail 4 foot wide about 40 yds long. More than enough! And besides you will get sick of saying I got an "ott-six"
kt

paynter2
12-14-2003, 20:16
Blood trail 4 foot wide about 40 yds long."

Congratulations. If you'd been shooting a .243 or 6mm you would have had a deer laying at the spot of impact - not a blood trail.

onemilmhz
12-14-2003, 21:05
Originally posted by paynter2
If you'd been shooting a .243 or 6mm you would have had a deer laying at the spot of impact - not a blood trail.
;i ;i ;i Bwaaahaaahaaahaaa!! I have killed a lot of deer with my .243 and love it, but one thing it has never done is dropped a deer in it's tracks. My dad's .308 has, many times. Don't get me wrong, I love the caliber but get real.

mudfootball
12-14-2003, 22:14
Did I just put a log on the fire of the 243 conversation?
I am convinced that i cannot drop a deer in its tracks! Rifle, muzzy, arrow, havent done it yet. I could move the crosshairs forward just a tick, the double shoulder shot is brutal for a take down. I kinda like the excitment of following a good trail on a hard hit deer. Even aiming behind the shoulder a 243 may not exit and that wouldn't make following up as easy, being that the exit is usually the side that pumps. Well this got sidetracked a little, any whoo thanks for the congrats and i say get the 308, more versatility short and simple!
As for the model 700 great gun
kt

Glockerel
12-15-2003, 07:51
My .243 rarely doesn't drop a deer in it's tracks.
Last year, I tipped one over with a shot to where the neck joins the body. It's legs just collapsed. it didn't even twitch.
This year, the two I sniped in the neck simply dropped. The third I shot behind the shoulder. It went 5 yards.
I shoot remington CoreLoct 100 gr right off the shelf.
The only time a .243 "ain't enough gun" is when you are taking a shot you have no business taking.

jchast
12-15-2003, 09:13
Originally posted by bandit007
I am looking to buy my own dear rifle,

thanks in advance from a city boy.

Yup... He's a city boy... can't even spell DEER...

Just bustin your chops.

For thick woodsy areas, I use a 30.06. For open areas I like my 7mm. Both rifles are Savage and are very accurate.

Took a 9 point this year with my 30.06

;c

ithaca_deerslayer
12-15-2003, 10:49
1. Use the same type of .308 you use for work. But maybe a different scope? 3-9x will handle your needs, mostly set on 3. Or if you want something different than just get a .308 Rem 700. .30-06 will work fine too. I don't see any need for .300win mag, but fine if it doesn't make you flinch.

2. One shot drops, I believe, work well on a broadside relaxed deer shot in the heart/lung area taking out both lungs.

12-15-2003, 14:43
I looked at a savage "Tactical" rifle in .308 today. It was kinda heavy and had a heavy bull barrel. it was $460.00 is that too much? I also looked at a remmy 700 in .308 for $440.00. do these prices seem ok or are they high?

mudfootball
12-15-2003, 18:36
Dont really know the particular gun. However Savage makes very nice bolt actions and the price isnt too high their lower end bolts sell at $369. Oh and the part about the bull barrel.... Think about how heavy that gun will get after a day in the woods for the amount of walking you do, may be it is something to consider.
kt

repete34
12-15-2003, 22:37
My remigton 700 senduro in .308 has killed paper, deer and elk, with a Nikon 4-12x44.

Sixgun_Symphony
12-15-2003, 23:13
Originally posted by bandit007
I looked at a savage "Tactical" rifle in .308 today. It was kinda heavy and had a heavy bull barrel. it was $460.00 is that too much? I also looked at a remmy 700 in .308 for $440.00. do these prices seem ok or are they high?

You don't want a heavy rifle for hunting deer. You need a rifle that is light and easy to carry. You want a rifle that comes up quick to the shoulder for those brief moments you get a clear shot in the woods.

You should go to the gunstore and look for the Savage M99, Winchester M94, and Marlin 336 rifles. These are great woods rifles for most north American big game. Pick each one one and check out the handling qualities of each rifle design.

They don't make the Savage M99 rifles anymore. But they can be found on the used gun market. The .300 Savage is a very good chambering for North American big game.

fnfalguy
12-16-2003, 20:57
My Browning A-Bolt Stalker (w/Boss System) in 30-06 is one hell of a game getter. I recommend this make and model of hunting rifle to anyone!

troyboy30
12-17-2003, 02:20
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onemilmhz
12-17-2003, 22:59
Originally posted by troyboy30
remington model 710 in 30/6
Um, respectfully, no. Stay away from these. The 710 is Remington's failed attempt to compete with low cost rifles from Savage, Weatherby and Winchester. These three offer much more in their lower end models than the 710. Why spend the money for a 710 and get such an inferior (not to mention butt ugly) rifle? For the same money you can get a much nicer gun from one of the other mentioned manufacturers or, just look around a bit and get a nice used A-Bolt or 700. Just my $.02 worth.

troyboy30
12-18-2003, 06:30
I have had zero problems with my 710 and get very nice groups out of it. Not an ugly gun at all. and where else can you get a complete set up for under 350.

onemilmhz
12-18-2003, 21:05
Originally posted by troyboy30
I have had zero problems with my 710 and get very nice groups out of it. Not an ugly gun at all. and where else can you get a complete set up for under 350.
Savage Package rifles with scope, mounts, sling and case can be had for around $329 in various calibers, including the WSM's. Can you say that about your 710? Nope, 270 and 30-06 only. Weatherby Vanguards go for $359, again in various calibers. Don't even try to tell me your 710 is on par with those. And likewise, Winchester M70 Black Shadows go for around $399 with accessories. These are just a few examples.

Looks are subjective so you be the judge.

Remmy 710
http://pix.gunbroker.com/pixhost/2002-04-21/Brown1_1019435792_97408.jpg

Weatherby Vanguard
http://www.gunbroker.com/pixhost/2003-10-19/Brown1_1066965346_69128.jpg

Savage 111FXP3
http://www.wholesalehunter.com/images/all/savpic111fxp3.JPG

troyboy30
12-19-2003, 01:02
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paynter2
12-19-2003, 05:47
I like the 710 too. I wonder if it has the normal quality barrel that Remington uses on the 700s?

Also... Why would anyone want a WSM over a .270 for deer? Take a little time and compare the .270 ballistics to those of the 7mm Rem Mag. The .270 is a very impressive 'down range' caliber.

12-19-2003, 11:10
Any comments on the Weatherby???????? I hear alot of good things about them.


thanks

Leigh
12-19-2003, 13:56
IMO, a lot depends on the range at which you will normally be shooting...where I live in eastern Kentucky, most shots are not in excess of 100 yards...I consider the plain ol' .270 potent enough medicine for any whitetail in my area.