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Wulfenite
12-23-2003, 23:23
http://www.elite.net/castle-air/hh43b.htm

Kinda ugly lookng really.

Lots of other old miliary aircraft at this site. http://www.elite.net/castle-air/camplane.htm

Superfueler
12-24-2003, 06:57
I was at the New England Air Museum this past weekend, and they had a Huskie on display, along with Kaman's first helo. The NEAM is in CT, and Kaman is from there, so I'm sure thats why there was such a large display.

Texas T
12-24-2003, 07:43
Originally posted by Wulfenite
Kinda ugly lookng really. As a kid I would watch these guys practice at Andersen AFB on Guam. Pretty cool.


T

M2 Carbine
12-24-2003, 07:56
I think the USMC had some of them.

I'm sure I saw them at Cherry Point, NC. about 1959.

That's one of the strangest main rotor systems ever made.

M2 Carbine
12-24-2003, 08:00
Originally posted by Wulfenite


Kinda ugly lookng really.


A helicopter is like a MAC 10.
It's beauty is in what it can do. ;f

Makila
12-25-2003, 12:35
HH-43 Huskie. Air force used them for Rescue and Fire Fighting. Capable of carrying troops in rear compartment. Used to work on them in the AF back in the 70's. Still used today by companies involved with Heli logging. Kaman has another helicopter like this called the K-Max. Single seat and used for long line work. Capable of slinging 6000 lbs on the hook.
Makila

Wulfenite
12-29-2003, 15:34
I actually went and saw this thing at the Castle Museum this weekend. I didnt realize it from the photo but it actually has two main rotors. They are angled out left and right from the centerline and the blades intermesh. Very queer. Lots of rudder surface too and a huge exhaust pipe.

Are the flight controls on this copter the same as on a regular chopper? This thing seems like it would break enough of the traditional rules that a whole new system of flight controls would be necessary. I cant imagine what they would be though.

M2 Carbine
12-29-2003, 18:49
It's got typical helicopter controls, cyclic, collective, throttle and pedals but the linkage to those two main rotor blades must be something.

My Bell407
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid61/pfaf31ba4482c29f9810875964850a9b4/fc24093e.jpg

Huskie
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid95/pf4ee57182b948255ad82276050ae8c7a/fa252c6d.jpg

Texas T
12-29-2003, 20:14
M2, why is the pilot's position in a helo on the right side?


T

Wulfenite
12-29-2003, 22:02
I'll guess before M2 shows up with a good answer.

I'd say its so that the positions can share the collective control located in the center console. The pilot would of course then choose to fly from the right so that they, being dominantly right handed, could control the control requiring more dexterity with their right hand.

M2 Carbine
12-29-2003, 22:34
Originally posted by Texas T
M2, why is the pilot's position in a helo on the right side?
T

The only reason I know is because you can't take your right hand off the cyclic. The helicopter is unstable and the cyclic is flown constantly, more by pressure than movement.

You can let go of the collective and use your left hand for the radios, etc.

So if the pilot is on the left he would have to swap hands and fly the cyclic with his left hand every time he had to take care of business.

The cyclic being very touchy and needing a good control touch and most people being right handed I guess the controls had to be set up like this.

Of course when you become old and lazy you might spend a lot of time flying the cyclic with your knees.:)

Wulfenite, That sounds reasonable but there's a collective on the left also. So flying from the left you are still flying the cyclic with your right hand.

Superfueler
12-29-2003, 22:50
Don't Hughes/McDonnell-Douglas/Boeing helos have the PIC in the left seat?

M2 Carbine
12-30-2003, 15:41
Originally posted by Superfueler
Don't Hughes/McDonnell-Douglas/Boeing helos have the PIC in the left seat?

I don't know anything about the OH-6, AH-6 or the MD500/530 series but I would think the PIC seat is still on the right.
Of course with the left seat dual controls installed they can be flown from the left seat.


I believe HerrGlock is more up to date on the later military choppers.
He might know something about the latest Hughes/McDonnell-Douglas/Boeing machines.

Texas T
12-30-2003, 19:56
Originally posted by M2 Carbine
Of course when you become old and lazy you might spend a lot of time flying the cyclic with your knees.:) I was going to make that comment after seeing the photo of your Bell 407! ;f ;f


T

M2 Carbine
12-30-2003, 22:00
Originally posted by Texas T
I was going to make that comment after seeing the photo of your Bell 407! ;f ;f
T

My good mechanic friend, George, had a running joke when a new hire young pilot was assigned to the base.

He would ask them how much flight time they had.

Then George would say something like, Hell man, Bucks got that many hours flying with his knees.

I could make a pretty good approach with my knees but never got good at hovering.;f

Heck you have to do something.
Try eating a plate of Ribs with one hand, while you're flying.;f