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Stinkmuishond
01-02-2004, 11:20
Hi

Did anybody do some field tests with a 30-06 Rem. Mod. 710? What do you think about the durabilaty of this new model? To much plastic?
I whant to buy one...

Thanx a lot1

;Q

mpol777
01-02-2004, 11:45
Run a search over at the High Power Club as this has been discussed in length. The general concensus though is that buying a model 700 ADL is a much better idea.

The 710 isn't as good as the 700 in almost every category and only costs about $40 more if adding the same low end scope that comes in the 710 package. The biggest thing is that the ADL can be worked on to be made into a great gun where as the 710 is about at it's limit out of the box.

ILikeFtLbs
01-02-2004, 15:35
There is nothing WRONG with the gun. Whether or not you like it depends on how picky you are about match features (Like short angled bolts, adjustable triggers, etc.). I have a buddy who likes his rifles basic and functional. He always carries a 710 in 270, but he changed off the scope on it to a Leupold VariX-III. It is his favorite hunting rifle. I have shot it, and it groups about 1 inch at 100 yards. I would put it in the same class with a Savage 110. It has what you need, nothing more.

WalterGA
01-03-2004, 11:59
Work the bolt of a 710; work the bolt of any other bolt action rifle. Problem solved.

Stinkmuishond
01-04-2004, 00:21
Hi there!

Thanx for the replies! I'l have to choose between a Zastava and the Rem. Mod. 710 in 30-06 cal. The Rem. Mod. 700 cost a few thousand rands more than the Mod.710. I just can't afford it... The Zastava is a Czech-made working rifle - durable, but old fashioned and heavy. The Remington name stands for quality - and the price is just right!
The traditional South African hunter trust a "all steel and wood" Mauser kinda rifle. I'm just curious if this new , revolutionary and cost-effective rifle of Remington will stood the test of time - and thousands of rounds...

With our new Gun Control Laws one can't buy a new rifle every 5 years!

S.

paynter2
01-04-2004, 16:29
I saw a NIB M700 ADL (synthetic .243) in Gunlist magazine today for $325. I find it hard to imagine a better buy in a rifle than that.

I don't know if all calibers are that price. But, if it is any indication of the price of 700 ADLs, I wouldn't look any longer.

WalterGA
01-04-2004, 17:28
Bet the same deals on ADL's aren't available in S.A.?? Are Tikkas available there? Are they reasonably priced? If so, I'd suggest looking at the Tikka. The 710 is a "throwaway". If you want a bolt gun that'll last a lifetime, spend a few more bucks and get a real rifle.

paynter2
01-04-2004, 20:25
Bet the same deals on ADL's aren't available in S.A.??

Good point. I don't know what the availability of Remingtions is in SA. But, the dollar has dropped very much against the rand (40%?) If one could find a 700ADL, I would think it would be relatively cheap (as compared to the Tikka or Sako).

I'm a wood and blue guy myself. I just mentioned the ad in Gun List as being a synthetic rifle.

Good luck with whatever you decide to buy.

troyboy30
01-05-2004, 03:07
seen a 700 for 40 bux more than the 710! If I had I would have gotten the 700. The 710 is a fine rifle....had mine for years and it has no problems mowing down deer.

WalterGA
01-05-2004, 09:36
Troy: 7-yr-old girls with SKS's "mow down deer". That's not much of a benchmark for what's a quality rifle! ;)

troyboy30
01-05-2004, 13:22
well unline the rest of ya'll I had limited funds to buy a rifle for deer season. Around here the best deal I could find on a 700 ADL was over $150 more than the 710 and the 700 was without a scope! So I bought what I still think is a very nice rifle, with a scope for $350! It's not a 700 but where can you get a NEW 700 for $350? Nowhere! If you would like to buy the 700 from me so I can get me what you consider is a nice rifle, pm me!

Menehune
01-05-2004, 14:29
We sighted in over 600 rifles this year at the range. There were a lot of 710's in the mix. We also saw a lot of problems with the 710. Most all were related to the scope, or its mount. The most common problem is that the scope was crooked. Not so bad a problem, but the real problems were stripped screws in the mount, and scopes that did not have enough windage adjustment to get zeroed. There were many that were just fine, but I would go ver it with a fine tooth comb before buying one.

Stinkmuishond
01-05-2004, 15:33
Yeah, no Gunlist magazine here in S.A... The prices of decent U.S guns & ammo didn't drop with the dollar either! My G19 was R4200 in '98 and it is now R6500!
Most of us get gun related info in a local magazine , the Magnum.
Good quality rifles like the Tikka, Sako, etc. is pricy: Between R8000 & R11 000 for custom models... Even the CZ's entry level is about R7500.
(Sorry guys, this is MY uphill battle on the homefront)

ILikeFtLbs, do you have any experience with the Mod. 710 in 30-06?

Gee, Walther GA, that word "throwaway" gave me a scare!
Is these Mod. 710 rifles really that BAD?
;Q

S.

WalterGA
01-05-2004, 19:03
The bolt design of the 710 appears to be pretty flimsy to me, compared to other quality bolt rifles. By "throwaway", it's a rifle with a pressed-in barrel. I really like Remmy's, but don't have much use for the 710. I guess it just depends on your use. If you're hunting whitetail deer @ distances of 100 yds or less; don't shoot much; don't care whether your rifle lasts for years and years, it's probably o.k. It's a really cheaply-made and "feeling" rifle.

Any of the Savages would be better than the 710.

troyboy30
01-05-2004, 20:37
I don't really understand how you think it's so much different..it was built off of the 700 frame and design!

WalterGA
01-05-2004, 21:17
Now, Troy, I'm trying to be nice! ;) Any similarities between the 710 and the 700 are probably due to hallucinagenics!

troyboy30
01-05-2004, 22:04
no actually its from remingtons web page lol

mpol777
01-05-2004, 22:37
Based on yes, but they are far from being siblings. The 710 was designed for one thing, easy manufacture. It is easy for Remington to make and isn't the worst rifle around, but they missed the mark on pricing. It would have to be closer to $250 for me to be interested at all. For $250 it would be a decent gun to keep behind the seat of the truck, but for $350 I'll buy a used gun that shoots just as well but has potential to be built up into a great gun.

They did learn from their mistake with the EtronX and chambered it in the correct cartridges.

troyboy30
01-06-2004, 00:03
The breakthrough design of the Model 710 begins with good genetics. Make that the best genetics. After all, it was born in design from none other than the legendary Remington Model 700 unquestionably the most popular, most accurate factory-built centerfire in hunting arms history. As such, the new Model 710 shares many of the same hallmark features as the famous Model 700: The same unequaled out-of-the-box accuracy. The same time-honored reliability. The same crisp, single-stage trigger design. The same ultra-fast lock time. And the same famous "three-rings-of-steel" for superior action strength.


so since you guys don't like the 710..tell me, what rifle should I get? The 700 ADL? I mean i really need a top of the line 30/6 to take place of the 710 that's been sitting in the closet for 2 years! I bought it for deer hunting and only went 5 times! Anyone want to buy it? I think I shot it 10 times to zero it. lol


is the 700 still considered the most accurate out of the box rilfe there is?

WalterGA
01-06-2004, 09:46
Troy, as I previously stated, if you're only going to take a rifle out a few times a year and shoot at large, deer-sized targets, then just about any rifle will do, and the 710 is probably just fine for your purposes. BTW, my observations, of course, are just my opinions, based on my inspections of 710's at the local range. All this stuff is subjective, and I certainly don't mean to impugn anybody's choice of rifles!

I don't know if Remmy still claims to be the most accurate out of the box anymore or not, but I'd venture a guess that some of the Savages and Tikkas would run 'em a great race.

The "genetic" information you pulled from Remmy's website is just their marketing a cheap rifle on the reputation of a real rifle. ;)

Tikka Whitetail Hunters (predecessors to the T-3's) were sold for somewhere just under or around $400. Free-floated barrels, EXCELLENT triggers, detachable mags, etc., etc. Great value. ADL's go for under $400 every day.

Sportsman
01-15-2004, 09:05
When the 710 first came out I went into the local Gander Mountain store where it was prominently displayed on the shelf.

I asked to see it, and upon handing it to me, the guy behind the counter asked if I enjoyed canoeing local rivers. I said yes, why do you ask?....He said "cuz that rifle would make one hell of a paddle, but it aint much good for anything else"......I wonder how many times he used that line?

I didn't buy it, but for the average five day a season deer hunter, I think it would be fine.

Sportsman

ILikeFtLbs
01-15-2004, 10:48
Ok, what's wrong with the rifle?

jrad38
01-15-2004, 15:01
The 710 is a low budget rifle, I own several m 700's in different calibers and there is no way im spending good hard earned money on a gun with a hydralic pressed barrel into a cast and pressed reciever when i can buy a 700 for 40 bucks more.

troyboy30
01-15-2004, 15:30
If I could have found a 700 for 40 bux more I would have gotten it. I paid $350 for the 710. The 700 was over $500 without a scope. Out of my range for the 10 hunting trips I used it for! Have since lost my hunting partner so I guess I could sell the 710.

water_daddy
01-15-2004, 20:47
I sighted in my buddy's 710 in 30-06...not impressed. The bolt is very tight and choppy. The rifle has a very cheap toy like stock with horrible balance and my old iron sight milsurps w/ vintage ammo shoot just as accurate. No way you can compare a 710 and a 700.

WalterGA
01-16-2004, 12:13
Originally posted by troyboy30
If I could have found a 700 for 40 bux more I would have gotten it. I paid $350 for the 710. The 700 was over $500 without a scope. Out of my range for the 10 hunting trips I used it for! Have since lost my hunting partner so I guess I could sell the 710.

Troyboy: I've never seen a 700 ADL go for much more than $400. Typical price is under $400. Either you were looking at a BDL, or you're in dire need of Solomon Juice! ;)

troyboy30
01-16-2004, 17:24
Listed right there on remington.com

Model 700 ADL Specifications

270 Win. 22" 10" 42 1/2" 7 3/8 5771 $580
30-06 22" 10" 42 1/2" 7 3/8 5773 $580

Local shops wanted $550 and up without a scope.

Believe me I looked becouse I wanted a 700 instead.

jrad38
01-16-2004, 21:12
I can buy them here for around $375.00

vega
01-16-2004, 21:31
I bought my 700 ADL for $425. Couldn't find any gunstore cheaper than that here in Cali.

vega

onemilmhz
01-16-2004, 22:52
I was in a rinkie-dink gunstore in Danville, GA today and got to handle a 710 at length. It was marked $399. I'll never touch one again let's just leave it at that.;0 Sitting next to it were five brand new ADL's in various calibers from .243-7mm Mag. Every single one was marked $359. Slap a $40 scope on it like the one on the 710 and you've got twice the gun for the same price.

On a side note, next to the ADL's was a used Remington 78 Sportsman in .270 for $299. Same action as the 700 rifles without flashy blueing or wood. It was in good shape and topped with low end Simmons ring and scope set up, probably still better than the one on the 710. He told me he'd take $279 for it and I had to fight the urge. I very much want a .270 but I had already decided on a G27 if I found one. Good thing I didn't get it because the very next place I went just happened to be a Glock LEO dealer.:cool: When I got home I checked my GTG (after playing with my new 27 for a while) and found his price to be a little high anyway. I think I'll go back and offer him $225, when I can scrape up the cash again that is. There are deals out there if you can find them.