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Escoseis
01-11-2004, 18:47
Whoa!! Wonder what this hunter used? [See attachment]


A buddy sent me these pictures. Don't know where he got them... maybe some of you have seen them before. New to me.

I have seen bears in Idaho. None were quite this large, though.

Don't know where this bear was photographed. I hope a long way from where I now live.

Obviously the hunt was successful. (As viewed from the man's perspective).

Size of the bear makes me think that packing anything less than a Howitzer is pointless.

JeepDriver
01-11-2004, 19:14
Ma Duce ;f

Dogbite
01-11-2004, 21:54
I grew up in Alaska,alot of it in the bush--so i have some practical experience in this matter.Defense against bears--12 guage pump with slugs,or a large caliber rifle--416 rem mag and up bolt action, 45-70 with super stout loads, and a large 454,480,475 revolver for back up.If you are hunting them,and popping them at a distance--with a guide(that will have a heavy rifle) then a 300 mag and up--i would prefer a 338 and up.A mad charging bear and a bear walking around unaware of your presence are two totally different situations.Yes people kill them with 30-06 type calibers,but gambling with your life is not a good idea.I had a friend that killed one with a 30-06--and he said that he would never try that again.It went down very close to him,and he had to empty the gun.He is not a novice.

Cowboy Kyle
01-11-2004, 22:41
Is that the bear that ate that guy in Alaska? i dont remember what they used to kill it. anything as big as a "minivan" i want no part of!!

marvin
01-12-2004, 07:05
i saw this photo a while ago. was shoot in alaska and if i rember right the guy used a 7mm rem. mag took several shots. don't know if this is true or not.

Michigun
01-12-2004, 08:39
Several different stories going around, via e-mail about those pictures… I’ve received at least 5 different variations myself… seen a few different stories here on GT even…….

noway
01-12-2004, 09:58
Same here, this story is going around close to 2years with it getting bigger and bigger every day.

next story title will have it saying the "Bear eat a whole town and was killed by a 9mm" ;Q


As far as the 9mm users and the other handguns users that feel they have a suitable caliber for a bear, then good luck!
;f

marvin
01-12-2004, 18:43
Originally posted by noway

As far as the 9mm users and the other handguns users that feel they have a suitable caliber for a bear, then good luck!
;f

you know i catch crap all the time for this but here goes. i think 9 mm makes a good gun for protection from bear attacks!

note i said protection not hunting. all the reading i've ever read says the only way to stop a bear is to hit the brain or spine. the 9 loaded with 147 fmj gives you a deep pentarting round in a lite package with 18 rounds to do it. plus you need a few rounds to waste in an attempt to scare the bear away.

phil shoemaker the alaskan guide said that he would whether have a 22 mag that he could shot fast than to have a 454 mag that he couldn't get 2 shots off as fast. so i think that the 9mm sounds prteey good.

bachchoy
01-12-2004, 18:57
;g

ATI_RAGE_
01-13-2004, 01:40
According to Christmas Story, a Red Ryder BB gun should take care of anything. ;a

Balls
01-13-2004, 01:56
I heard of a sorty about soem guys fishing in Alaska. They asked the Ranger what handgun to carry to fend off a bear. The Ranger told them he has a Revolver in the glove box of his truck for just the occasion; it has the front sight filed off. When they asked why he filed the sight off, he replied "so it wont hurt as much when the bear takes it from me and shoves it up my butt."

CarolsJohn
01-13-2004, 02:57
WOW....With a monster like that, me thinks at least maybe a 9mm LE mag, and a .357 wheel gun as a back up.

If that don't work, use the small backpack-sized tactical nuclear warhead. ;-)

John :)

Michigun
01-13-2004, 06:21
I was told that any handgun that was able to wound the leg of the guy running next to you was good enough ‘bear protection’. ;f

Michigun
01-13-2004, 06:22
Oops...

Bushflyr
01-13-2004, 11:14
Supposedly the SKS has put a bigger dent in the Alaska bear population than any other gun.

0100010
01-13-2004, 11:39
http://www.snopes.com/photos/bearhunt.asp

jchast
01-19-2004, 09:52
This bad boy...
http://www.davidsonsinc.com/dealers/prod_images/bfr4570.jpg

Magnum Research 45-70 (5) shot revolver...

*drool* ;g

;c ;c

Poohgyrr
01-19-2004, 21:17
Originally posted by 0100010
http://www.snopes.com/photos/bearhunt.asp

Yup, that's where I saw these pics last. Including the third pic of what's left of a guy.

Cali-Glock
01-20-2004, 14:34
Attached is a picture of a woman and the grizzly she dropped with a 44 mag. She was gardening behind her house in Alaska; was not paying attention; when she saw the bear standing over her, she drew and fired one shot into the neck hoping to break the bears neck. Her one shot was true and the bear dropped. Her husband (a bush pilot) wrote a book which used to be posted online... I can't find it online anymoer

Dogbite
01-31-2004, 22:16
If you carry a 9mm in bear big bear country,you dont need that hi-cap mag.All you need is one round--so you can shoot yourself when the bear charges you--it wont be as messy that way...

noway
01-31-2004, 22:46
Caliglock, nice picture but that bear is a midget compared to the org poster picture. Just my 0.02c thoughts.

lazarus
02-02-2004, 11:40
I am currently planning a trip to Alaska for the summer.

Since I will use any excuse to buy another gun, I recently bought a 4" Colt Anaconda chambered in .44 magnum for the trip. I am _not_ planning to go bear hunting with such a gun, but it is the minimum I feel comfortable with. I'll also be carrying a Remington 870 loaded with Brenneke (sp?) slugs.

Dogbite
02-02-2004, 19:13
That sounds like a great combo Lazarus!!!

G22 Kid
02-08-2004, 03:55
If I ever spent much time in BIG bear country, I would be wanting a marlin 45-70with 500 grain hard cast handloads.

Course, if I was just going up for an occasional fishing trip, a .454 would be good for me.

Now black bear, If I was boondocking around my neck of the woods, either a 6 inch .357 mag with heavy 180 grain hardcast style loads or a 44 mag with 240 grainers(preferably the 44mag) and for a rifle, I think me '06 with 180 grainers would stop him dead in his tracks.

Baron Holbach4
02-08-2004, 06:40
I agree with G22 Kid. If you are trekking into grizzly country,
take at least a .45-70 capable of digesting heavy, flat-nosed, hard-cast lead bullets. Double up with a .44 magnum, 4-inch handgun as a backup; it, too, should be loaded with at least 240 grain, flat-nosed, hard-cast lead bullets.

Alaskan
02-09-2004, 00:34
The bear was 10' 6" at 1200 lbs. The guy used a .338 win mag, the bear was 10 yards from him when he shot it. It had not killed anybody like the rumors are saying.

2240
02-19-2004, 14:36
Alaskan, shhhhhh.... The bear killed the whole town in one night, women, children, dogs, and cats, too. (got to keep people from moving up here and shootin' all our moose and caribou).

HammerG26
03-04-2004, 09:38
I think your answer will depend on your purpose. Are you trying to hunt a grizz, or are you backpacking, fishing, or hunting something less prolific? If it is the latter, then .357 Magnum with 158 gr FMJ Round is the minimum. Also, while carring a .454 Casull or the new .500 Magnum would be sufficient, they are too cumbersome to carry with you all day. I think S&W used to have a line called Mountain Revolvers, chambered in .44 Magnum. Lastly, remember, none of the guns will do you any good if you put them down, EVEN FOR A MOMENT. So if you are choosing a gun to carry as a "backup", make sure it is something that you can carry comfortably ALL DAY LONG, and even sleep with. Just my $0.02.

Wotan
03-04-2004, 09:45
What about this pocket gun ? ;G

hwyhobo
03-04-2004, 16:11
Originally posted by Wotan
What about this pocket gun ? ;G ;d

Which pocket gun?

Wotan
03-05-2004, 02:50
Ups ! I attached a pic but it didn't work.
How can I add a pic with the function "Attach file" from me desktop ?
I tried several times but without success !

When I click "Preview Reply" there is no file (pic) !!!! :(

widmn
03-06-2004, 07:32
One thing that I found works is....shove a compressed air cylinder in its mouth and shoot it with a 308. Explodes and poof....no bear. Works best if bear is in the water like in a river or stream. Better yet. Lake or ocean.
Seriously, don't shoot a ******* bear. They are nice and beautiful creatures not meant for that. Shoot birds and go fishing. bwqahahaaaa

hwyhobo
03-06-2004, 12:45
Originally posted by Wotan
Ups ! I attached a pic but it didn't work. How can I add a pic with the function "Attach file" from me desktop ? I tried several times but without success !Did you try the "IMG" button? It doesn't do exactly what you're looking for, but it does embed the image in the post.

Wotan
03-08-2004, 04:13
Originally posted by hwyhobo
Did you try the "IMG" button? It doesn't do exactly what you're looking for, but it does embed the image in the post.

I have used the "Attache file" at the bottom of the box where you write down the post.

Wotan
03-08-2004, 04:14
WOW !
It worked ~2

hwyhobo
03-08-2004, 07:42
Ah, the gatling gun. Yes, I would gladly install one on my car. Alas, they are slightly illegal in California. :)