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cchardwick
01-12-2004, 12:58
I've been looking around for a good elk rifle. I know a guide who leads elk guides and swears by the 300 Win Mag. Do you think this is the best elk rifle? I probably won't hunt deer but you never know. Has anyone ever shot a deer with a 300 Win Mag? I don't have a rifle yet, only a shotgun and a bunch of handguns (except my ruger 10/22 22 Magnum). What do you guys use for Elk? I really have my eye on Remington's new Titanium 700. This doesn't come in 300 Win Mag but is offered in 300 Rem SA Ultra Mag (whatever that is). What do you think?

http://www.remington.com/images/firearms/700_titanium.jpg

ILikeFtLbs
01-12-2004, 13:23
That'll get the job done fine. It's light weight will be very helpfull too.

Other calibers you might want to look at are
7mm mag, 30-06, 7mm STW, 270 and some of the weatherby stuff.

Alsatian
01-12-2004, 19:30
My personal favorite .300 Weatherby Mag.
.338 Win mag a close second.....Period!!

tjpet
01-12-2004, 19:41
Any of the various .300 mags will do a fine job. Try one first to see if you can handle the recoil. If so, you're good-to-go. If not look into a .270, .280, or 30/06.

My elk and other BG hunting chores are handled these days by either a 6.5 Swede or 7x57 loaded with heavy bullets at moderate velocities. Very light recoil on my end, lethal killing power on the other.

Dogbite
01-12-2004, 20:17
What tjpet said.;)

repete34
01-12-2004, 20:53
I also agree with tjpet, but would include the .308 win., I have used it on Elk as well as others and it works just fine. At 200 yards with a 165gr. it went clean through, and killed with one shot.

mpol777
01-12-2004, 22:32
.300 RSAUM in a 6 3/8lb rifle. I bet that kicks just a tad. :)

It takes a lot of little grains of powder to fill those cases so be aware ammo is pricey in that caliber.

mattyk6
01-12-2004, 23:20
30-06

double_trouble
01-12-2004, 23:52
My personal favorite is the Remington 700 BDL in 7mm Remington Magnum.

The 7mm and 300 Mag are both pretty heavy for deer. Witness a young Mule deer buck shot in the spine with a 300 mag was almost cut into two pieces. Not a pretty site and rather a waste of an animal.

I would recommend you get a .270 or 30-06 for deer and step up to the magnums for Elk and other large animals.

Best of luck, let us know what you purchase.

PlasticGuy
01-13-2004, 18:21
The .300 is a great cartridge, but is not necessary to kill an elk cleanly. A .308 or 30-06 would do just fine and have a lot less recoil. And if I were to go with a .300 magnum, I would certainly not get a feather-weight rifle.

There's not much that can't be done with a standard weight rifle in .308 -- deer, elk, or just about anything else on this continent would fall to it if you choose a good load and hit what you're aiming at. Plus you can use surplus ammo for a lot of cheap practice.

Short Cut
01-13-2004, 18:41
The .300 Win Mag is a great cartridge for hunting elk because it has the verasatility to hit hard up close or far away. That's not to say that it's the ONLY cartridge that will work well but it is imo an excellent choice. It will do just fine for deer and pronghorns too just use a lighter bullet like a 150 grainer.

double_trouble
01-13-2004, 23:52
Originally posted by PlasticGuy
Plus you can use surplus ammo for a lot of cheap practice.

Be careful. In Oregon it is prohibited to use military (Full Metal Jacket) ammunition when hunting big game. The exception is hunting predators like Coyotes. I'm sure regulations vary by state, be sure you check your local regulations.

7mmmag
01-14-2004, 15:29
Consider 7mm mag or a 30-06 with nosler partitions- tried and true if you hunt Colorado or Wyoming. The recoil is comfortable compared to the .300mag, which has produced serious flinchus recoilitis in more than a few of my friends. I can practice shooting all day with either the aforementioned calibers and go hunting the next day and enjoy it.

PlasticGuy
01-15-2004, 08:11
Originally posted by double_trouble
Be careful. In Oregon it is prohibited to use military (Full Metal Jacket) ammunition when hunting big game...
As it is in my state, which is why I wrote "for a lot of cheap practice."

TFLWYO
01-15-2004, 17:41
I have a 700 Titanium in plain ole .308, and I love it. It is very accurate with factory ammo, surplus ammo, and handloads, including Barnes XLCs and Triple Shocks, and with Federal High Energy Premiums with the 180 gr. Nosler Partitions. Recoil isn't bad, although I bet the SAUM would be much more noticeable. This past season, I got an antelope and a deer with no trouble using the Federal HE's. I am confident that the bull elk I could have shot at about 50 yards would have been no trouble (I was holding a cow tag. :( )

The down side of the rifle is that it is a little light on the front end due to the whippy barrel.

If you aren't planning on shooting past about 300 yards, I really don't think you need the magnum. YMMV

double_trouble
01-15-2004, 19:19
Originally posted by PlasticGuy
As it is in my state, which is why I wrote "for a lot of cheap practice."

No offense intended. Just trying to be helpful.

Sixgun_Symphony
01-15-2004, 20:01
http://www.tcarms.com/mlrifles/hawken/hawkenclsm.jpg

Check out the Thompson/Center Arms Hawken Rifle. Go with .54 caliber and you got a decent elk rifle.

*click here* (http://www.tcarms.com/mlrifles/hawken/index.html)

Conrad
01-25-2004, 04:50
If I were ging to go out and buy new for elk, I would probably get a 300 win mag. 7 mm mag 2nd choice. The problem is what great deal would come along that is neither of those .....

lomfs24
01-25-2004, 23:23
there are a lot of good choices in this post. I have not seen any that I would disagree with. A 300 is a great choice for elk, however, not the only choice. As far as deer, I have not shot any deer with my 300 Win Mag. However, I have shot antelope with my 300, not because of the size but because of the range. With a 300 you can reach out an touch somehting if you need to.

treemanjohn
01-26-2004, 03:20
If you're still in the market I have a truly awesome Remington 700 BDL SS 7mm STW for sale. Answer Rifles has done a lot of custom work to it. Recoil is similar to a .243 and it has sub M.O.A. accuracy.
I recently moved to the Florida panhandle so my love of fishing has taken over. I don't have a use for the rifle and it's way too nice to just sit in the safe. Email me at treemanjohny2k@yahoo.com if you're interested.

MrMurphy
01-26-2004, 08:42
The M109A6 Paladin 155m howitzer works well for Elk. Of course, you can't sneak up on the elk, but you can hit him from 30,000 yards or so.... and of course, there's not much left of the elk.;f


(Just kidding!)

Glocker74
01-26-2004, 09:39
Hardwick-Sounds like you want to use your rifle for both elk and deer. My wife and I took 2 deer with a 7mm mag last fall. Shot both in the exact center,no damage to the meat.Shot at close range,they both walked 30 yards and went down.
Conventional wisdom says your shot placement on elk will need to be better than with a heavier rifle...just practice a lot.Recoil is less than you would think- I found it easy to shoot accurately.
I had the same idea when I bought it- one rifle for deer AND elk.Works for me.

Rabon
01-27-2004, 17:58
Pretty simple question, pretty simple answer. 338 Win Mag;)

f1b32oPTic
01-27-2004, 20:22
its not so simple though

he said he has been shooting only his 22wmr..
if this is to be his first high powered rifle i would suggest a 30-06 because the recoil is manageable and it can still carry a 180gr. payload efficiently


it is at the 180gr. mark where the 30-06 outpreforms the .308.

drstrangelove
02-25-2004, 12:53
30/06, 180-220gr bullets. Quite adequate with good shot placement for just about any game in North America. Cheaper ammo. My Browning Synthetic ABolts (30/06 and 223) group one MOA. I don't have the magnumitis bug and hope I never do.

Rather than more guns, I'd rather have a selection of scopes, ie 2-7X large game, megazoom for target/whistlepigs, nite scope for coyotes/goblins, etc. All interchangable on a picatinny/weaver rail.

freakshow10mm
02-25-2004, 23:59
The best rifle for elk is the the one with which you are the most accurate with in hunting situations and of which the caliber is the largest you can truely handle and be effective with. I would much rather a guy show up with an 06 he can shoot than a 300 super-vaporizer that he can barely shoot.

Alsatian
02-26-2004, 12:35
The best rifle for elk is the the one with which you are the most accurate with in hunting situations and of which the caliber is the largest you can truely handle and be effective with

You didn't answer the question.


I would much rather a guy show up with an 06 he can shoot than a 300 super-vaporizer that he can barely shoot.

Who makes that "300 super-vaporizer," I'd like to pick one up for my next Elk hunt!

Sixgun_Symphony
03-01-2004, 23:13
Originally posted by Alsatian
I'd like to pick one up for my next Elk hunt!

Be different! Stand out from the herd, get a .54 caliber Hawken rifle.

MrGlock21
03-06-2004, 17:07
any 180gr bullet that travels 3000fps, be it a .30 or a .338 round