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RussP
06-15-2005, 19:54
Originally posted by sweetbutsassy
RussP,

That is a cool picture! You did a great job! Yep, and the photo isn't too bad either...


;f ;f ;f


:cool:

hogship
06-15-2005, 22:00
Thanks RussP....and good luck to your son.

hog

sweetbutsassy
06-19-2005, 21:12
Hog,

I visited the Wall while in D.C. about 6 years ago. Was driving through with a friend on the way back from Baltimore (college business) and we pulled over to see it. It was incredible. The people, items left, the sadness in the heart-felt letters...I didn't want to leave. Before I left, I made a pencil rubbing of the name of a Viet Nam vet whose name is on a bracelet I wore for many years. His name is LCPL Jerry D. Dewberry USMC last seen in SVN on 7-5-68. He is from Oklahoma. A day after Independence Day--what an ultimate sacrifice this man and others (alive and dead) gave to ensure the freedom of all. Thanks to all of you. For those of you who have not gone, go some time. There is a traveling wall that's about 3/4 size that comes through Oklahoma every year. Will be in town I want to say July 15-17 in OKC. I always try to go see it when it comes to town. I will be taking my 10 year old this trip.

RussP
06-20-2005, 20:12
Originally posted by hogship
Thanks RussP....and good luck to your son.

hog Hog, thanks.
Son called Sunday, Father's Day...

Asked how things were going... He said, and I'll forego the details, but the boy is bored...

He is XO for his company and in charge of logistics...They provide convoy escort on the north/south supply routes. As XO, he doesn't go on escort that often...paper work and command stuff...

However, I felt my stomach tighten when he said he is bored...Why'd my stomach tighten? He's my son...

I knew what was coming next. "Dad, next week I'm going to get back to going out on patrols. I need to know what is working and what isn't and fix it..."

Yes, he will fix it, and I'm glad he is getting back with his troops. That's why he is there, for them...



;? ;?

sweetbutsassy
06-20-2005, 20:15
Will say a prayer for your son RussP.

burner087
06-21-2005, 06:13
*edit* forgot to add my jobs
Data Processing Technician 87 to 93
Cryptologic Technician 93 to 97
Information Systems Technician 97 to present

Active Duty US Navy from August 1987 to March 1997.
Reserves from March 1997 to Present.

Active Duty:
FICEURLANT (AIC) Norfolk VA from Dec 87 to Dec 90
COMFAIRKEF, Keflavik, Iceland Jan 91 to Dec 93
USS Arthur W. Radford DD-968 out of Norfolk, VA Mar 94 to Mar 97

Reserves:
Orlando, FL
Various units from Panama group, WESTHEMGRU, ComSubGru 10 out of Kings Bay, GA.

I've enjoyed my time in the Navy. I have enjoyed serving my country. I'll be sad when my time comes to retire.

Thanks to everyone here for also serving our great country.

Black Tiger
06-23-2005, 15:51
E Co. 2/7 Infantry; 24th Infantry Div. (Mech.) 1992-95

301st MP Co (CS) USAR 1997-2001

USAG MP Det.USARSO 2001-2002

88th MP Co. (CS) USAR 2003

Combat Tour in Iraq (10 months) Feb.- Nov. 2003

I am now serving with the Federal Bureau Of Prisons as a Correctional Officer in Florida.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a362/Sablelieger/Iraq%20Tour/TeamOneBravo2.jpg
I'm the guy on the right.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a362/Sablelieger/Iraq%20Tour/ReynierandhisSAW.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a362/Sablelieger/Iraq%20Tour/MewithAK-47.jpg

82ndAbn
06-26-2005, 21:11
Bco. 4/325th AIR, 82nd Airborne
Aco. 5/20th Inf, 2nd ID
HHC 3/75th Rgr. Rgt.
Fco. 425th LRS
Gco. 143rd LRS
1988-1996

Cco. 949th FSB
2000-2002

~

Lester Long
06-28-2005, 19:23
U.S. Navy 1988-1994.

P Division USS Mauna Kea (AE-22)
M Division USS Flint (AE-32)

MM2 4296 NEC

Sam White
06-28-2005, 23:54
So far I don't have much: joined the USAR in 2002, went to basic at Ft. Jackson and AIT at Ft. Lee(MOS 92A). I messed up my legs and had to go back to Ft. Lee later to be MOSQ- I still have no idea why they didn't just kick me out but my Drill Sergeant and the Reserve Liaison there worked it out. I've only been to Camp Grafton, Ft. McCoy, and Ft. Douglas (USAR) besides-I missed deploying by a few weeks! I'm trying to go AGR and am working on my packet right now. My wife is slowly warming up to the idea of me doing 20- if I'd suggested AGR two years ago she would have chewed my butt. I'm not sure what the future holds- I may put in for a commission but would like to go warrant-920B someday if I can.

My Dad and uncle did their time in the Army and so did many others in my family back to the Civil War. Being part of it means a lot to me even if it's a very small part- it's a priviledge to serve in a branch that's had so many good men before me.;? ;? ;? ;? ;?

G17-"Flagship"
06-29-2005, 20:35
FEB 01 - FEB 04
1/327 INF
101st Airborne Division (Air Assault)

served 8.5 months in Iraq for Operation Iraqi Freedom

ChrisK
06-30-2005, 21:46
Nov. 1977 Lackland AFB Basic Training
Jan-Feb 1978 Chanute AFB IL Tech School-Pneudraulic
Feb 1978 - Feb 1992 Dover AFB 436th FMS Pneudraulic Shop
436th AGS Expiditer
Feb 1992-Oct 1992 38th ARS Osan AB ROK
Oct 1992 Seperated from USAF as a Tsgt. ( E-6 )
Dec 2002-Present Enlisted in USAFR as a Tsgt. 434th AMXS
Promoted to Msgt. 2004

jerryd
07-01-2005, 10:41
U.S.Army Ft. Dix basic,feb-66 Ft.Monmouth may-66 RVN 1-67 till 12-68, CTANG 77-80

sweetbutsassy
07-05-2005, 00:01
Happy Independence Day everyone! A special thanks to all that have served this country. I would have been on earlier but due to bad storms last night, we were without power. Just got it back tonight--in time for a last minute 4th of July party! Good night and God Bless America. ;?

RussP
07-19-2005, 12:00
Just to keep it at the top....

9508
07-19-2005, 19:26
U.S. Army Jun '76-Jun '79 A Btry 6/14FA

U.S. Navy Sep '80-Sep '97
USS Nimitz CVN 68
RTC Great Lakes
USNWF St. Mawgan, U.K.
USS Theodore Roosevelt CVN 71
NAS Brunswick, Me.
USS Shreveport LPD 12

JDM2126
07-24-2005, 21:37
USMC 1974-1995
MOS: 0302
FMF tours included:
1st Bn, 8th Marines 1975-77
1st Bn, 3rd Marines 1982-84
HQ Co, 2nd Marines 1993-94

Grandfather was USNR in WWI.
Father was USN in WWII (USS Enterprise CV-6)
Father-in-law was three war USMC (WWII, Korea, Vietnam)
Oldest son is USAF, Iraqi War veteran and currently serving on the Korean front.

Glolt20-91
07-25-2005, 02:16
Greatbutsassy, some kewl shooting; sorry about the buttheads.

This post isn't about me, but about my best Vietnam buddy Frank Gannia (Animal) who passed away from alcoholism on election day last year. We had history together and for that I'm eternally grateful.

Frank was crew chief on a gunship Americal Division - we never talked about the war but I know he was awarded the Silver Star and other medals.

Upon returning from Vietnam he finished his enlistment doing search and rescue in Colorado.

I miss him every day - may you have found peace in your heart.

Adios,
Bob

MP1SG
07-26-2005, 20:21
Army MP from 1976 - 2000

blubottlemax
07-28-2005, 13:40
USMC 1996-2001
CH-46E Mechanic, Crewchief, and Weapons and Tactics Instructor
HMM-268, HMM-166, HMM-364
2 WestPac's to the Middle East, Kuwait, Jordan, Qatar, UAE...

After I got out, I missed flying. Marine Corps has no Helo aviation in WA state, so I joined WA ARNG. Now I'm a CH-47D FE.
WAARNG 2002-Present

Phrog's Forever
Semper Fi
Sgt. T.

RussP
07-29-2005, 06:41
Originally posted by Glolt20-91
Greatbutsassy, some kewl shooting; sorry about the buttheads.

This post isn't about me, but about my best Vietnam buddy Frank Gannia (Animal) who passed away from alcoholism on election day last year. We had history together and for that I'm eternally grateful.

Frank was crew chief on a gunship Americal Division - we never talked about the war but I know he was awarded the Silver Star and other medals.

Upon returning from Vietnam he finished his enlistment doing search and rescue in Colorado.

I miss him every day - may you have found peace in your heart.

Adios,
Bob Welcome Bob, and thanks for sharing that with us.

Prayers for you and 'Animal'...;? ;w

RussP
07-29-2005, 06:42
Originally posted by JDM2126
USMC 1974-1995
MOS: 0302
FMF tours included:
1st Bn, 8th Marines 1975-77
1st Bn, 3rd Marines 1982-84
HQ Co, 2nd Marines 1993-94

Grandfather was USNR in WWI.
Father was USN in WWII (USS Enterprise CV-6)
Father-in-law was three war USMC (WWII, Korea, Vietnam)
Oldest son is USAF, Iraqi War veteran and currently serving on the Korean front. And you live in a good place, too!!:cool:

JDM2126
07-29-2005, 21:41
Yes, I do.

I lived in some pretty nice spots during my USMC career-- Kaneohe Bay, Hawaii; Virginia Beach, VA; Orlando, FL; Jacksonville, NC (no kidding-- once you got past the main drag with the pawn shops, used car lots, tattoo parlors, and beer joints, the beaches were, and probably still are, some of the nicest on the east coast); and northern VA. But the hands-down nicest place we ever lived was Bryan/College Station, TX, the home of Texas A&M University. Perfect size, beautiful country, good schools, low crime-- you get the picture. So when it was time to transition to the retired ranks, we knew where we wanted to settle down. Not one regret-- ever!

reconvic
07-29-2005, 22:23
Welcome bro, always glad to see another Marine:) You will find everyone here knows there ***** and are a good bunch of people.
Now tell how the hell do you get duty stations like that
Semper Fi




Originally posted by JDM2126
Yes, I do.

I lived in some pretty nice spots during my USMC career-- Kaneohe Bay, Hawaii; Virginia Beach, VA; Orlando, FL; Jacksonville, NC (no kidding-- once you got past the main drag with the pawn shops, used car lots, tattoo parlors, and beer joints, the beaches were, and probably still are, some of the nicest on the east coast); and northern VA. But the hands-down nicest place we ever lived was Bryan/College Station, TX, the home of Texas A&M University. Perfect size, beautiful country, good schools, low crime-- you get the picture. So when it was time to transition to the retired ranks, we knew where we wanted to settle down. Not one regret-- ever!

JDM2126
07-30-2005, 07:09
There is no secret. In fact, I actually requested other, less sexy places. HQMC, as is their wont, saw fit to send me elsewhere.

-- I asked for Camp Lejeune, so they send me to Kaneohe Bay. Maybe karma- I did two Westpacs from Hawaii, but missed Beirut and Grenada. Had two buddies killed in the Beirut barracks bombing-- the darkest day in our Corps' history.

-- I asked for duty in Columbia, SC, so they send me to Texas. Wound up retiring there years later.

-- expecting an obligatory tour in Washington, DC, they send me to Orlando (since it was recruiting duty, hardly counts as an enjoyable tour-- but served with some of the best Marines I ever had the pleasure to serve with, and only another recruiter will know what that really means)

-- actually asked for and got duty at LFTC Lant in Little Creek, but only after repeated failures at getting barracks duty in Florida. LFTC was great duty, though-- kept me well grounded in infantry stuff during a non-FMF tour. By the way, Reconvic, there was a legendary recon Marine stationed at LFTC during my time there-- initials were CCC, nick-name was Bucky. Navy Cross, three Silver Stars, five Bronze Stars. As they say, the real deal. He knew Gen Al Gray when Gray was a sergeant and Bucky was one of his PFCs. His knees were messed up, needed a cane to get around before he retired. Couldn't claim to be his friend or even an acquaintence-- like most young Marines, simply worshiped the legend from afar.

RussP
08-12-2005, 11:46
Just bumping it to the top...

lethrnk
08-17-2005, 10:52
United States Marine Corps- 1975-1979

San Diego as a Boot
Oceanside for MOS training
Camp Foster, Okinawa
MCDEC, Quantico VA

My son is home on leave right now. He graduated from Parris Island on 12-Aug-05. Leaving for Camp Lejeune on 30-Aug-05 for Infantry school. God Bless all of our Service Men and Women no matter where they are.

Semper Fi-

srfl
08-17-2005, 11:29
Originally posted by lethrnk
God Bless all of our Service Men and Women no matter where they are.

Amen!

rick newland
08-18-2005, 19:55
U.S. Army 1974-1977 709 MP Bn, Frankfurt Germany
1978-1998 USAF Security Police (Law Enforcement) Stationed at Nellis AFB NV, Izmir Turkey, Chanute AFB IL, Hess-Oldendorf AS Germany, Ramstein AFB Germany. Road trips taken to Gulf war 1, Somalia, Balkans, Rwanda and Kuwait. Retired 1/98 and hopped like hell that I would be recalled after 9/11, but never happened.

Mterada
08-18-2005, 23:19
Depped 11x 82nd aug 01 shipped jan 02

82nd 1/505

did oef, did oif

never intended to do more than 1 tour, didnt care much for most things in the army anyway.

pretty happy to have done it, but it was sucktastic while I was in.


and if you see this post
hi nick!
send me a pm!

~wg

SCmasterblaster
08-28-2005, 12:16
When I read this Hall of Fame, it makes me want to open a can o' whoop-ass on "peace activist" Cindy Sheehan and her ilk. She dumps on her son's sacrifice and that of all servicepeople when she grabs a microphone.

ENOUGH! GO HOME!

diver454
08-30-2005, 14:55
served with Navy from 73-81 USS Independence and Forrestal. dry time was Oceana Naval Air. all my kids are active duty now in Army or Navy.

RussP
08-30-2005, 16:01
Originally posted by lethrnk
United States Marine Corps- 1975-1979

San Diego as a Boot
Oceanside for MOS training
Camp Foster, Okinawa
MCDEC, Quantico VA

My son is home on leave right now. He graduated from Parris Island on 12-Aug-05. Leaving for Camp Lejeune on 30-Aug-05 for Infantry school. God Bless all of our Service Men and Women no matter where they are.

Semper Fi- lethrnk, did your Marine get off okay today?

God Bless him and all our military!

RussP
08-30-2005, 16:24
Originally posted by otasan
When I read this Hall of Fame, it makes me want to open a can o' whoop-ass on "peace activist" Cindy Sheehan and her ilk. She dumps on her son's sacrifice and that of all servicepeople when she grabs a microphone.

ENOUGH! GO HOME! [/B] Damn, otasan, I got a chill when I read, "this Hall of Fame". Now I'm startin' to tear up.

Since John Parker started this on 22 April 2004 we've had almost 9,000 hits and 282 posts, some good branch rivalry attitude, and a few stories.

There have been a few who came in to start trouble. Some are no longer with us.

We've got a good number on active duty and in harms way or providing the rear support that effective forces need. For you all, God Bless and keep up the Honor of the United States Warrior! Whether Air Force, Army, Coast Guard, Marines, or Navy, Reserves and National Guard, you are appreciated!

The likes of Mrs. Sheehan and others who've lost loved ones, we pray for relief from your grieving. We pray your loved ones' lives will not be dishonored by America quiting the fight.

For us parents and families with sons and daughters now fighting, we pray they will be safe and return home to enjoy that ever so Sweet Taste of Freedom in my sigline.

Otasan, thanks for your post!!






:cool:

lethrnk
08-31-2005, 05:30
Originally posted by RussP
lethrnk, did your Marine get off okay today?

God Bless him and all our military!

Yes he did... I took him to the airport yesterday morning and he arrived at Camp Lejeune yesterday afternoon. He begins his infantry training now. There were many, many Mothers and Fathers putting their Marines on that plane yesterday morning... A scene that took place at Port Columbus at a time of day when most were still safely in their beds asleep. They (Marines) looked so young- And, they are so young... But, they stood straight and proud, with C bags over their shoulders, donned with freshly pressed alpha uniforms...

I was very proud of them all-

Semper Fi-

And, Thank you for asking RussP

reconvic
08-31-2005, 09:36
I went thru the same in 67, he will be fine he is at AIT now. May God watch over him. What is his MOS?
Semper Fi
Vic











Originally posted by lethrnk
Yes he did... I took him to the airport yesterday morning and he arrived at Camp Lejeune yesterday afternoon. He begins his infantry training now. There were many, many Mothers and Fathers putting their Marines on that plane yesterday morning... A scene that took place at Port Columbus at a time of day when most were still safely in their beds asleep. They (Marines) looked so young- And, they are so young... But, they stood straight and proud, with C bags over their shoulders, donned with freshly pressed alpha uniforms...

I was very proud of them all-

Semper Fi-

And, Thank you for asking RussP

lethrnk
08-31-2005, 11:18
Originally posted by reconvic
I went thru the same in 67, he will be fine he is at AIT now. May God watch over him. What is his MOS?
Semper Fi
Vic

Yep- I went thru the same thing in '75- He's an 03. He chose to be an 03 had the test scores to be about anything the Corps offers but wanted to be a GRUNT! I am very proud of him!

Thank you for your prayers-



SAEPE EXPERTUS, SEMPER FIDELIS, FRATRES AETERNI
"Often Tested , Always Faithful, Forever Brothers"

^c

reconvic
08-31-2005, 18:14
He has many brothers here, I will also pray for all our troops to be safe, but trust me he is being trained by the best, just have faith.
I was a grunt 0311 first, in my eyes the grunts are the backbone of the Corps.
Semper Fi










Originally posted by lethrnk
Yep- I went thru the same thing in '75- He's an 03. He chose to be an 03 had the test scores to be about anything the Corps offers but wanted to be a GRUNT! I am very proud of him!

Thank you for your prayers-



SAEPE EXPERTUS, SEMPER FIDELIS, FRATRES AETERNI
"Often Tested , Always Faithful, Forever Brothers"

^c

nightprowler
09-05-2005, 18:12
USMC 88-92

88 PI,Aberdene Proving Grounds(2111),3rd FSSG
89 Camp Pendleton Ca.1st Anglico
90 PG
91-92Camp Pendleton Ca.
Semper Fi Devil Dogs

RussP
09-12-2005, 20:26
Bumped to the top for mrwiggins who says...]Originally posted by mrwiggins
...The only reason I havn't enlisted is because i'm not going to put my ass on the line if I don't get all my rights, pure and simple. He said this on the Carry Issues forum in a thread about Concealed Carry for those under 21...

I've invited him over to discuss his feelings...

mrwiggins
09-12-2005, 20:52
only reason is a strong word, sorry if i offended you Russp. god bless the vets. i'm glad to see so many dedicated people. I have many reasons for going to school before enlisting, but i also felt that before i took such a big step in my life, I should have all my rights. I also wrote that last sentence in a loud, crowded computer law, while starting work on my first english paper of the semister :)

RussP
09-12-2005, 21:08
Originally posted by mrwiggins
only reason is a strong word, sorry if i offended you Russp. god bless the vets. i'm glad to see so many dedicated people. I have many reasons for going to school before enlisting, but i also felt that before i took such a big step in my life, I should have all my rights. I also wrote that last sentence in a loud, crowded computer law, while starting work on my first english paper of the semister :) It is too late tonight to answer you...other than to say you need some work, but you're gonna be okay.:cool:

6541E-4
09-13-2005, 14:41
USMC '97-'02 MALS-31 Ordnance IYAOYAS
Kosovo
Japan UDP VMFA-332
Okinawa (Kadena)
Miss it more and more everyday.

Marine Corps League Lt. Bonnyman Det. 924

Mterada
09-13-2005, 23:13
Unless your military experience was very, very different from mine, you miss your friends but not the stupidity.
Call them up and have a chat.


I call at least 1 of my buddies every week. I do miss my friends quite a bit. Some of the best guys that I've ever worked with.

Policecalling rocks in afghanistan not so much. Policecalling a garbage dump in iraq because we tossed trash on the ground in the town dump, not so much.



... a little off topic.

6541E-4
09-14-2005, 06:33
Originally posted by Mterada
Unless your military experience was very, very different from mine, you miss your friends but not the stupidity.
Call them up and have a chat.


I call at least 1 of my buddies every week. I do miss my friends quite a bit. Some of the best guys that I've ever worked with.

Policecalling rocks in afghanistan not so much. Policecalling a garbage dump in iraq because we tossed trash on the ground in the town dump, not so much.



... a little off topic.


I talk to my old friends all the time, I often to go to their retirements and promotions. It is the life that I often miss. I have had a hard time readjusting to the civilian life.

Sapperstang
09-17-2005, 15:34
8 years active duty Army.

37th Eng. Bn. 20th Eng. Brigade Ft. Bragg, NC
44th Eng. Bn. Camp Howze, Korea
307th Eng. Bn. 82nd. Airborne Division Ft. Bragg, NC

K_Knight159
09-18-2005, 16:30
Currently a 3 year solider

MOS IS 63BH8 (Wheel Mechanic with a Vechile Recovery Identifer)
Currently In Camp Taji also know as Camp Cooke in Iraq.
Serving with the 3rd ID. First time ever being deployed and pround to have severed my country and give the iraqi people a chance of freedom.







_____________________________
"Kilo Knights"
"Ride the Pony"

Seabee71
09-19-2005, 20:12
Enlisted in the Navy 1989 as a Builder in the Seabees at age 17.

Naval Mobile Construction Battalion Seven 89-93
Public Works NAS Brunswick Maine 93-96
Naval Mobile Construction Battalion Seven 96-2000
RTC Great Lakes/ NAVSTA Great Lakes 2000-2004
Naval Mobile Construction Battalion Seven 2004-present

Been to:
Adak, Alaska
Baharain Desert Shield/Storm
Okinawa 4 times
Peurto Rico/ Roosavelt Roads 3 times
Guam 2 times
Honduras
St Lucia
Cuba
Pohang, Korea
Bolivia
Sasabo Japan

Soon, deploying to the Horn of Africa.

All of these have been sea deployments. I have 7 deployments, some were forward deployed from mainbody.

I have 4 years left!! Its been a hell of a ride. Seabees have the second highest divorce rate in the Navy, SEALs have the highest. Deployments are hell on families. I've been married 3 times, so you could imagine. For those who I might of served with, it was an honor. For those I will serve with in the future and dont know it yet...We are going to have a blast!!

OORAH!!

Out here.........

surfbob5
09-20-2005, 00:19
Im an active duty sailor, I am also a veteran.



I joined the navy in october of 2001, went to bootcamp in illinois, then went to aviation ordnanceman A school.. in pensacola. I joined as an e2, and got stationed at the command im in now, Fighter Squadron 32. I made e5 a few months ago, and soon it will be my time to go to my next command, i have made 2 war cruises on the war on terror since coming to this command, my first was to the med and i participated in OIF (operation iraqi freedom) from day 1. then came home we turned around and headed to the gulf .. still doing OIF and we covered the iraqi elections... both cruises on the USS Truman.



Ordnance is really great!!

Chazman007
09-20-2005, 11:03
USN here, from 1983 to 1988 Radioman

Yokosuka, Japan
Plankowner USS THEODORE ROOSEVELT

Had 2 grandfathers that served in WWII one in the 69th Infantry Division.

Father was in the Coast Guard Reserves

Step-Father also in the USN - USS Coral Sea

6541E-4
09-20-2005, 12:11
Originally posted by surfbob5
Im an active duty sailor, I am also a veteran.

Ordnance is really great!!


IYAOYAS

rhikdavis
09-20-2005, 15:40
My military service. (http://s95018434.onlinehome.us/Enterx.html)

Don't forget to sign the guestbook. ;f

NevisRuprecht
09-21-2005, 21:10
Here's Mine

US Army 1978 - 1981
BT Fort Jackson
AIT Fort Eustis, Va MOS 68F
G Troop 1st AirCAV - Godman Army Air Field Ft. Knox, Ky
3/3 FA Ft. Knox (Temp assignment after G Troop deactivated)
73 CBTI Echterdingin Army Air Field Stuttgart, Germany

As A Civi - DOD Contractor

US Navy Test Pilots School NATC Lexington Park, MD
NAVELEX (SPAWAR)
NAVSEA

surfbob5
09-21-2005, 21:17
Originally posted by 6541E-4
IYAOYAS




Yup! IYAOYAS, bro!!!!

WPD80
09-24-2005, 22:32
:) The United States Navy!

I went to Boot in San Dog in 1986, I also served onboard the USS Constellation CV-64 (americas flagship), for one north pac and two west pac's. I also served at NSGA ADAK AK.

I was a Radioman for the first three years of my time in, and served as a naval security officer for the last 1 yr and 10 months at ADAK.

GO NAVY! Beat Army AGAIN!

http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/2591/dsc003803qx.th.jpg (http://img369.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc003803qx.jpg)



Tom;c

NevisRuprecht
09-25-2005, 09:11
[QUOTE]Originally posted by WPD80
[B]:) The United States Navy!

I also served at NSGA ADAK AK.

I was a Radioman for the first three years of my time in, and served as a naval security officer for the last 1 yr and 10 months at ADAK.
/QUOTE]

Adak, AK. Single mans paradise where there is a woman behind every tree!

WPD80
09-25-2005, 10:05
Originally posted by NevisRuprecht
[QUOTE]Originally posted by WPD80
[B]:) The United States Navy!

I also served at NSGA ADAK AK.

I was a Radioman for the first three years of my time in, and served as a naval security officer for the last 1 yr and 10 months at ADAK.
/QUOTE]

Adak, AK. Single mans paradise where there is a woman behind every tree!

I sent you a private message!!! Tom

Bolt_Overide
09-26-2005, 23:16
Spent a little time in the army, jumped outa planes, blew stuff up.. you know normal red blooded american macho type stuff.

TKennedy1975
10-03-2005, 00:09
Infantry OSUT at A Co. 2/19th Inf. Ft. Benning, GA.
2 years, 8 months at C Co. 1/3d U.S. Inf. (TOG) Ft. Myer, VA as firing party for funerals, 2 years on Full Honors.
ETS May 2005, then reclassed to MP in Missouri National Guard. Recently deployed to the area of New Orleans, LA as part of JTF Katrina.

NCUrk
10-03-2005, 08:39
You either loved it or hated it...
I loved it. NSGA FD 92 -95.

NH-GLOCK22
10-08-2005, 20:09
U.S. Army 1962-1965
Basic training, Ft. Dix, NJ
Advanced Infantry Training, Ft. Benning, GA
ASA training, Ft. Devens, MA
Military Advisor, KMAG (Korean Military Advisory Group)
Military Advisor, MAC-V, (Military Assistance Command-Vietnam)

I specialized in small unit infantry weapons & tactics training with the ROK Army and the ARVN.

I went on a veteran's tour to Vietnam in 2003. Nha Trang, our R&R center then is now a fabulous tourist destination. The tour included
the North. I saw the remains of the Hanoi Hilton. I only thought of Senator McCain & so many others. I saw Ho Chi Minh's tomb - I confirm to you that he is dead!

It was very strange to be there 28 years after the war. For the Vietnamese people, it seems that our war (the "American War") was one of several wars during the 2,000 year history of Vietnam and they accepted us readily.

Having been in Germany 20 years after WWII, there is a similiarity in the attitude of the people.

It was really tough for us in Vietnam. We served without question.
Pray that our troops in Iraq will receive all the support & equipment required and that their mission not be second-guessed.

Richard

RussP
10-09-2005, 10:55
Originally posted by NH-GLOCK22
...
It was really tough for us in Vietnam. We served without question.
Pray that our troops in Iraq will receive all the support & equipment required and that their mission not be second-guessed.

Richard Amen.

;? ;? ;?

td.trmntr
10-18-2005, 14:04
U.S. Army 1983-2001

Basic: Fort Campbell, KY
AIT: Fort Huachuca, AZ
MOS- 97B (Counterintelligence Agent)
Jump School: Fort Benning, GA, 1983
JRTC- Panama, 1984
GSG-9 Counter-Terrorist School: Stuttgart, West Germany, 1989

325th Bt, 82nd (Abn) 1984-1988
11th CIC- Bonn, West Germany 1988-1990
Counter-terrorism- (classified) 1990-2001

Took a medical discharge in 2001.

If I had it to do over again, I wouldn't change a thing. Fighting terrorism is the most righteous cause on the planet.

Thanks for asking.

RussP
10-24-2005, 19:51
Originally posted by td.trmntr
... Fighting terrorism is the most righteous cause on the planet.
I have family and friends doing it right now and they feel the same way.

Thanks for your contribution.:cool: :cool:

tainosoldier
10-25-2005, 10:51
Started US Virgin Islands NG as a medical specialist, then went active into Cargo Specialist, stationed in Fort Eustis, VA and now currently at Sunny Point Army Terminal in Southport, NC.

SGT G

JimmyMN
10-29-2005, 20:47
Army, 1968-70, RVN 5/69-4/70 with First Infantry Division (Big Red One). Now 100% service-connected disabled permanent and total with Multiple Myeloma, presumptive to Agent Orange exposure.

Les35
11-03-2005, 11:21
Army here.

went to basic and AIT oct 2001- feb 2002
then went on to camp carrol ROK 2002-2004
then ft eustis VA 2004
then to afghanistan 2005- current.
served a little over four years.

KNEESINTHEBREEZ
08-24-2006, 17:27
Originally posted by td.trmntr
325th Bt, 82nd (Abn) 1984-1988

WTF is 325th Bt?

KNEESINTHEBREEZ
08-24-2006, 17:31
Originally posted by td.trmntr

JRTC- Panama, 1984


And since when is JRTC in Panama? Something smells awfully fishy here. When did you say you were in combat with the 325 again?

jmshady
08-24-2006, 17:35
Originally posted by td.trmntr

Counter-terrorism- (classified) 1990-2001



If it truely is classified should you not be jailed for mentionong that on a public forum?

Jeff82
08-24-2006, 17:58
Originally posted by KNEESINTHEBREEZ
WTF is 325th Bt?
Hopefully a typo.

td,
I was B/1/325 '82-'85. You?

Jeff82
08-24-2006, 18:05
Originally posted by KNEESINTHEBREEZ
And since when is JRTC in Panama? Something smells awfully fishy here. When did you say you were in combat with the 325 again?
JRTC was in Panama back "in the day," although then the "J" was "Jungle." You got to wear a patch on your BDU or green (slant pocket) fatigue coat pocket. Had a "pirate" sailing ship on it. Now the "J" is "Joint." This was when Div still had a Recondo School. Got a patch for that too.

The inf bn's in Div would rotate down 30 days at a time to go through the course.

I was in between active service periods when the whole JRTC in LA happened.

The "Deuce" would get combat patches for Grenada '83, Panama '89, and then the whole Iraq thing...

Edited to add: Seems they changed the JRTC to JOTC when they created the (new) JRTC in LA. (or was it always JOTC? Now I'm wondering...)

See next post for patch with ship. I think now it's some kind of command.

jmshady
08-24-2006, 18:11
Originally posted by td.trmntr
U.S. Army 1983-2001

Basic: Fort Campbell, KY


A little history on Ft Campbell:

http://www.campbell.army.mil/ftchistory.htm

BCT was from May 2, 1966 to April 15, 1972

So what is wrong here, the history or the hero?

Jeff82
08-24-2006, 18:14
Here's the patch (subdued of course, not authorised on class A's) you wore after completing jungle training:

Jeff82
08-24-2006, 18:42
Looks like JOTC was never JRTC or vice versa. I stand corrected.

Why do I remember calling it "JRTC"?

KNEESINTHEBREEZ
08-24-2006, 19:11
So far our hero is batting 0 for 4

:upeyes:

KNEESINTHEBREEZ
08-24-2006, 19:15
Originally posted by Jeff82

The "Deuce" would get combat patches for Grenada '83, Panama '89, and then the whole Iraq thing...

Correct, which would make his claim of combat with the 325 in 1984 impossible.

KNEESINTHEBREEZ
08-24-2006, 19:17
Originally posted by Jeff82
Hopefully a typo.

I could accept that if it happened once, however he posted the same thing in two different threads.

jmshady
08-24-2006, 19:26
Here is another thread:

http://glocktalk.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=5094292#post5094292

As a 17 year veteran and 3 time visitor to Afghanistan, I
tend to agree that batteries have a bad habit of biting the
dust at the wrong place and time. However, the Trijicon ACOG
sighting system is the best thing going. It does not rely on
batteries at all. I have one mounted on my SOCOM 16 and, IMO,
it is the best battle rifle I've ever used. I just wish they
had been available back in my day.

Out in 2001 and three trips to the Stan from aprox Oct to Dec 31 and a medical discharge to boot.

Please explain.

KNEESINTHEBREEZ
08-24-2006, 20:31
Maybe it's rangerruck's alter ego, :supergrin:

jmshady
08-24-2006, 20:35
:laughabove: :laughabove: :laughabove: :laughabove: :laughabove:
Originally posted by KNEESINTHEBREEZ
Maybe it's rangerruck's alter ego, :supergrin:

Now that is funny. Whatever happened to poserruck?

Jeff82
08-24-2006, 20:35
I'm just trying to provide additional 'numbers'. You guys seem to be adding them pretty well!

KNEESINTHEBREEZ
08-24-2006, 20:47
I sent him a PM telling him about how this thread is going for him and that he may want to show up and answer the questions. We'll see if he shows.:upeyes:

Deftanker
08-25-2006, 15:09
Kt Knox for Basic (08/28/90)
2/27 AR and 1/37AR Vilseck Germany (Jan91-Dec92)
1/303rd AR WARNG (Dec92-Feb94)
1/66 AR Ft Hood (Feb94-May96)
Cuba Cant remember (DAT) I think it was 95.... I suck. 6mos with the refugees, sharks, alcohol, sharks and the wonderful refugees.

They were definately the best of time and the worst of times. I can't seem to find anyone I served though with I would love to get back into contact with them.

KNEESINTHEBREEZ
08-29-2006, 18:19
I think we have our answer. td.trmntr was online on the 25th and no responses to any of the questions asked of him. Friggin' poser. :upeyes:

sweetbutsassy
08-31-2006, 22:04
Originally posted by 6541E-4
It is the life that I often miss. I have had a hard time readjusting to the civilian life.

I can't help but laugh on the "hard time readjusting"...no! Not laughing at you! The first thing that flashed into my head when I read that was the movie "Major Payne" where he gets out of the military and he is in his one bedroom apartment. Remember when he said he's having a hard time adjusting...hasn't kilt him a man in awhile and he is growing weak--after being out for two weeks! Yeah,his facial expressions remind me so much of my younger brother that it just makes me smile and laugh. Younger bro was in the sand '90-'91, MLRS. Yep, army. I had 2 army brothers and me and another brother were AF. Uncles in the Navy and I dated a Marine. Did I miss anyone? Sorry, I never knew any CG. I miss the military life from time to time also. Hi RussP. Haven't been on in quite some time. Hope all is well!

sweetbutsassy
08-31-2006, 22:13
AKKK! Sorry, I didn't mean to come in the middle of a showdown! I stumbled onto a thread that I had posted to months ago and found one that made me smile and think about "Major Payne" and my little bro. Once I posted and flew through to the end, I realized that I was a day late and a dollar short...walked into a "God, who cut the cheese" moment! Sorry guys. Will read the Cliffs and try to play catch up!!!

Deadbolt
09-06-2006, 13:13
U.S. Army 84-96

1st Squadron/1st U.S. Cavalry Regiment, 1st Armored Division.
Schwabach, West Germany. West German - Czechoslavakian Border Reconnaissance and Surveilance Operations(when we were not at Graf shooting gunnery or in the mud in Hohenfels).

1st Squadron/7th U.S. Cavalry Regiment, 1st Cavalry Division.
Fort Hood, Texas. Much fun time on NTC rotations.

L Troop, 3rd Squadron/2nd Armored Cavalry Regiment.
Amberg, West Germany. The wall came down but we still had the Czech Border mission. Then came Operation Desert Storm.

89th CML (Chemical Troop)3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment.
Fort Bliss, Texas. Lots more time at the NTC.
Echo Tango Suitcased in '96. Got sick of the Klintonista administration, and the P.C. direction the Army was taking.


I am proud to have served my country in peace and war. I salute ALL U.S. Veterans, past and present. Thank you for your service. Never forget those who made the ultimate sacrifice! Don't forget their widows and orphans.

justinhcannon
09-07-2006, 00:54
Enlisted into the US Army as an Infantryman April of 2001. Airborne School in August 2001..."Tower Week" (30ft'ers) 11SEP2001...75th Ranger Regiment's Regimental Indoctrination Program grad'd Nov 2001. Assigned 1st BN, 75th Ranger RGT Dec 2001...Boots on ground directly after Christmas 2001. Sustained injuries in 2002 and Medically Released in 2003 for Medical Discharge. Discharge "interrupted" by deployment to Kuwait January 2003 and Iraq March 2003. Get this...paraspinal disfunction and bilateral hip disfunction and given an m240b (M60's replacement for you all that paved the way) and told to rock on. Obviously that didn't help me physically. Eventually received a general discharge (under honorable conditions) after much trouble my last year in.
In retrospect, both my parents proudly served as NCO's in the Army. I grew up in their army which, sadly, no longer exists. I wouldn't have done it any other way even if I could have known how everything would have turned out, it just sickens me the way the new "Army of One" operates. At the end of the day, though...I am proud of what I have accomplished. That may never help me get a decent job, but heck I didn't join the Army for what would happen after I got out.
Sua Sponte
RLTW

justinhcannon
09-07-2006, 01:01
Wow I forgot a major detail...the med release from the Rangers was Jan 03..sent to Ft. Stewart, GA. (If you've been there then you know the true meaning of Hell on earth) 3rd Infantry Division (Mechanized). Same month I was deployed to the sand.

arndogg
09-08-2006, 07:55
enlisted into USMCR out of high school and graduated from boot camp in Sept 1991. I was an aviation supply clerk, assigned to MCAS El Toro. My mom did not want me to go active duty because she wanted me to go to college. Worked out fine for me because once I received my degree, I found myself in Quantico for Officer Candidates School. I received my commission in December 1998 and became an arty officer, King of Battle. I was assigned to 3d Bn, 11th Marines out of 29 Palms. Did a UDP, but pretty much spent 3 years in the desert then became assigned as OpsO for Camp Fuji Japan for 13 months. I have been the Officer Selection Officer in Los Angeles the last 3 years, and am actually finishing up my last month before I begin terminal leave. Most likely, I will remain in the reserves while being an LEO in SoCal (Well, that's the plan at least).

jmears06
10-06-2006, 22:56
Lackland AFB 1972-74
Osan AFB 1974-1975
Whiteman AFB MO. 1976-79
Ohio National Guard 1981-83
Air National Guard 1983-94 Retired
All these years spent in Food Service as a Cook.


G19
G27:thumbsup:

nothing
10-07-2006, 21:51
1/155 IN MSARNG 2002-present
attached to 2/11 ACR for OIF 3, Iskandariyah Iraq, 2005-2006
MRO/J3/STARC (ADSW) MAR 2006-present

pick
10-09-2006, 19:34
Basic - Ft Leonardwood MO June 88
Dec 88 to 2nd ID Camp Casey Korea.
Dec 89 to 489 Trans in Ft Lewis, Wa
Oct 90 deployed to Saudi and Iraq
Back to Ft Lewis early May 91
Dec 91 --OUT

gjwheels
10-13-2006, 13:08
Wow. I knew I was an old man, but..................

Navy, 02/18/1952 till 02/17/1956 USS WASP CVA18 7th fleet, and a stint in Kodiak Alaska with a Fleet Aircraft Service Squadron. (114) Loved the Navy.

DriBak
11-07-2006, 19:24
October 1988;Ft. Benning 2/58th Inf.OSUT = 11B, got orders to stay at Benning with the 197th Mech. Inf. Brigade Co C. 1/18th Inf
Deployed to Desert Shield/Storm 10/90-4/91 Medical Hold following Desert Storm 4/91-11/91 for "unknown" allergy. Chose to take Honorable DC as opposed to going to Medical Board.
Texas Army National Guard; Infantry 49th Armored Division 1/1992-3/1995
Now 10% disabled

ronlog
11-16-2006, 18:43
USAF Jan57-Oct60
Airborne Radio Repair
Lackland AFB
Scott AFB Belville.IL
Kadena AFB Okinawa
Walker AFB Roswell N.M.
TDY Fairchild AFB Spokane WA
Back to Walker

A.F. Lineman
12-14-2006, 23:21
USAF 542X1/3E0X1: Oct '85 to Jan '06

Oct '85 - Feb '86: Basic and Tech School
'86 - '88: Hahn and Weusheim Germany, 50th CES
'88 - '95: Vandenberg AFB, CA, 4392rd CES/30th CES
'95 - '02: Nellis AFB, NV, 820th RED HORSE
'02 - '03: Kunsan AB, Korea 8th CES Red Devils (**** Hot, Hooha!)
'03 - '06: Nellis AFB, NV, 99CES
Currently retired and back in school.
In the 20 years I was in, I was TDY to almost all corners of the earth.

A.F. Lineman
12-14-2006, 23:21
USAF 542X1/3E0X1: Oct '85 to Dec '05

Oct '85 - Feb '86: Basic and Tech School
'86 - '88: Hahn and Weusheim Germany, 50th CES
'88 - '95: Vandenberg AFB, CA, 4392rd CES/30th CES
'95 - '02: Nellis AFB, NV, 820th RED HORSE
'02 - '03: Kunsan AB, Korea 8th CES Red Devils (**** Hot, Hooha!)
'03 - '05: Nellis AFB, NV, 99CES
Currently retired and back in school.
In the 20 years I was in, I was TDY to almost all corners of the earth.

G8rzfan
12-29-2006, 07:31
I had not planned to post since so many already had, but I thought I’d read through and see whom I may have crossed paths with…then I read Stengun’s post on page 8.

Originally posted by Stengun:
Arkansas Air National Guard 1-10-82 to 5-83
Basic, Tech school etc. SP/LE ABGD. Sniper/Countersniper, Combat Arms, Missile Silo Security (Yep I passed the "psyche test" which ment if the silo officer would not push the button, I would shoot him, take the key, and push the button myself.).

This raised some questions for me that I have to ask of Stengun…
1. Which ICBM missile system were you guarding?
2. What training/regulations authorized you to take over command/control of a missile silo at your discretion?
3. Where did you receive launch procedure training? And, what button would you have pushed?
4. What the heck is a silo officer?

Everything I have heard about ICBMs makes your post reek of cow pasture surprise. I anxiously await your response.

Jeff82
12-29-2006, 15:03
Originally posted by G8rzfan
I had not planned to post since so many already had, but I thought I’d read through and see whom I may have crossed paths with…then I read Stengun’s post on page 8.

Originally posted by Stengun:
Arkansas Air National Guard 1-10-82 to 5-83
Basic, Tech school etc. SP/LE ABGD. Sniper/Countersniper, Combat Arms, Missile Silo Security (Yep I passed the "psyche test" which ment if the silo officer would not push the button, I would shoot him, take the key, and push the button myself.).

This raised some questions for me that I have to ask of Stengun…
1. Which ICBM missile system were you guarding?
2. What training/regulations authorized you to take over command/control of a missile silo at your discretion?
3. Where did you receive launch procedure training? And, what button would you have pushed?
4. What the heck is a silo officer?

Everything I have heard about ICBMs makes your post reek of cow pasture surprise. I anxiously await your response.
Interested minds want to know...


Thought the time and duty stations list was a little "shallow," shall we say? Especially after reading the list of schools. Surely the AF didn't get their payback in a year or so. But not ever having served in the AF I really have no clue as to how you guys do things.

VGunner
12-29-2006, 19:36
U.S. Army 74B 1997 - 2006

Fort Jackson, SC 1997
Fort Gordon, GA 1997
Fort McPherson, GA 1997 - 1999
Saudi Arabia 1999 - 2000
Fort Meade, MD 2000 - 2004
Kuwait 2004 - 2006

RoyG
12-29-2006, 23:25
US Army 35L10/20 35P30 68L30
1979-1992
Ft Jackson, SC '79 Basic
Ft Gordon, GA '79 AIT
Ft Campbell KY '79-'81 5th TRANS BN
ROK '81-'82 45th TRANS CO
Ft Campbell KY '82-'83 159th AVN BN
Ft Wainwright AK '83-'85 568th TRANS CO
Ft Campbell KY '85-'92 160th AVN BN/SOAG/SOAR
Ft Gordon, GA '87 BNCOC
Ft Rucker, AL '89 ANCOC

Lots of TDY in there to Ft Bragg and various other places.

slow ride
12-31-2006, 11:22
U.S. Army, 1995-1998. 63B (Light Wheel Vehicle Mechanic)
Basic training, and AIT at FT.Jackson, SC.
Was stationed at Ft. Richardson, AK. for 3yrs. (21st Signal Co.,and helped out with 110th MI.)

GO ARMY!!!!

Old NFO
01-03-2007, 13:05
21 1/2 years active duty USN.
NAS Glynco 71-73 Helo and Connie Crew
VP-4 SS1/3 1974-1976- Barbers Point, HI (and points West)
VP-50 76-78 SS1/4- Moffett Field, CA (and points West)
VP-30 78-81 Acoustic instructor and CNAL evaluator- Jax
VP-24 SS1/4 81-82 commissioned in 82, VP-24 TACCO/MC 83-87- Jax (and points East)
CPW-11 87-88 MC&E- Jax
CPWP 88-92 Special Projects Moffett Field, CA and all over the world
Had about 10,000 hours when I retired, over 7500 in P-3's.

Currently program manager for Office of Naval Research (ONR) in DC.

stengun
01-18-2007, 19:35
Howdy G8rzfan,

Originally posted by G8rzfan
I had not planned to post since so many already had, but I thought I’d read through and see whom I may have crossed paths with…then I read Stengun’s post on page 8.

Originally posted by Stengun:
Arkansas Air National Guard 1-10-82 to 5-83
Basic, Tech school etc. SP/LE ABGD. Sniper/Countersniper, Combat Arms, Missile Silo Security (Yep I passed the "psyche test" which ment if the silo officer would not push the button, I would shoot him, take the key, and push the button myself.).

This raised some questions for me that I have to ask of Stengun…
1. Which ICBM missile system were you guarding?
2. What training/regulations authorized you to take over command/control of a missile silo at your discretion?
3. Where did you receive launch procedure training? And, what button would you have pushed?
4. What the heck is a silo officer?

Everything I have heard about ICBMs makes your post reek of cow pasture surprise. I anxiously await your response.


I guarded the old Titan II missile silos. They are all decomissioned now. They were located north of the Little Rock AFB in the area kinda between Jacksonville, west to Greebriar, north to Heber Springs, east to Cabot and back south to Jacksonville. They are all within a hundred miles of where I live today. Heck, back in the late '90s they were for sale.

It wasn't at my discretion. There are always three people in the control room of an ICBM silo, the launch control officer, his assistant, and a security police (SP). The MIMS crew took care of preparing the missle for launch. If the order to launch was given by the President and for whatever reason, either member of the launch team refused to turn the key and push the button, since it takes two people to launch the missle, it was the duty of the ARMED SP to assist in launching the missle. It wasn't my call, just my duty.

I didn't need to know launch procedures. I just needed to be willing to force the officer(s) to "Push the button" The button was a keyed push button. the keys were locked in a safe and only the officers had access to the keys.

Silo officer was what I was calling the launch control officer. He was usually the ranking officer in the silo, hench, silo officer.

If you have any other questions, ask away. It's been 24 years since I've been in a silo, but ask away, and I'll anwser what I can remember.

Paul

stengun
01-18-2007, 20:02
Howdy Jeff82,

Originally posted by Jeff82
Interested minds want to know...


Thought the time and duty stations list was a little "shallow," shall we say? Especially after reading the list of schools. Surely the AF didn't get their payback in a year or so. But not ever having served in the AF I really have no clue as to how you guys do things.

Some of the schools were when I was in the Tx ANG.

I was a college student during this time and was the only unmarried guy in my unit, I think there might have a divorced guy at one time or another. My unit was given so many school slots per year and we had to use them or lost them for the future. Most of the guys in my unit, the 314th, were 'Nam vets, married with kids and were cops in the Dallas area and could not or did not want to go to a 6-8 week long school away from the home, family or career. 2 week summer camp was kinda a vacation for them but they didnot want to be away for 6-8 weeks at a time. Enter me. I was a single college student that was going to college on a football and Air Force ROTC scholarship. I wanted to be an OSI officer so I thought that all these schools would be helpful in the long run. So, I spent most of my summer breaks going to various schools, plus I spent from 6-82 t0 5-83 on active duty for boot camp, tech school, combat arms school, and OJT on the flight line and silos.

If you got anymore questions, ask away. It's been over 20 years ago, but I'll anwser what I can remember.

Paul

jmshady
01-18-2007, 22:49
Originally posted by stengun
Howdy Jeff82,



Some of the schools were when I was in the Tx ANG.

I was a college student during this time and was the only unmarried guy in my unit, I think there might have a divorced guy at one time or another. My unit was given so many school slots per year and we had to use them or lost them for the future. Most of the guys in my unit, the 314th, were 'Nam vets, married with kids and were cops in the Dallas area and could not or did not want to go to a 6-8 week long school away from the home, family or career. 2 week summer camp was kinda a vacation for them but they didnot want to be away for 6-8 weeks at a time. Enter me. I was a single college student that was going to college on a football and Air Force ROTC scholarship. I wanted to be an OSI officer so I thought that all these schools would be helpful in the long run. So, I spent most of my summer breaks going to various schools, plus I spent from 6-82 t0 5-83 on active duty for boot camp, tech school, combat arms school, and OJT on the flight line and silos.

If you got anymore questions, ask away. It's been over 20 years ago, but I'll anwser what I can remember.

Paul

how long was basic and tech school add 24 more weeks and the time for a mini school on knife fighting....

http://www.glocktalk.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=7488583#post7488583

All this with three years in the service.....

Why did they let you out so soon?

Firefights in Central America while a part of the Air Guard?

Why does this really smell of BS?

http://www.glocktalk.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=3328336#post3328336

I really do not believe this at all.

Which is it 20 or 24 years?

Start answering please. You had more schools that an active duty Soldier would kill for and never see, and you did it all in the Air Guard.....

Jeff82
01-19-2007, 12:25
(Just making comments, not making judgements, just watching the show :popcorn: )

Wow! One of my active duty periods was '82-'85, as an airborne infantryman in the 82nd. My company received 4 (count'em, "four") slots for Ranger school in the ~three years I was there. To add insult to injury we got the slots while we were on a six month deployment to the Sinai desert, hence we weren't able to send anyone and the slots were redistributed to another battalion.

The only other time we got a school was when two of us were offered the opportunity to go to the West Point Prep school. I promptly answered [dumba^^on]"No sir, I work for a living!"[/dumba^^off]. (Believe it or not, I'm still working! :) ) Regardless, like the Ranger slots we couldn't/didn't send anyone.

I always knew I shoulda went air force! (Woulda gone for CCT.)

jmshady
01-21-2007, 22:19
Originally posted by stengun


If you got anymore questions, ask away. It's been over 20 years ago, but I'll anwser what I can remember.

Paul

I asked.....

Got more where those came from too.

stengun
01-23-2007, 23:13
Howdy jmshady,

Originally posted by jmshady
how long was basic and tech school add 24 more weeks and the time for a mini school on knife fighting....

http://www.glocktalk.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=7488583#post7488583

All this with three years in the service.....

Why did they let you out so soon?

Firefights in Central America while a part of the Air Guard?

Why does this really smell of BS?

http://www.glocktalk.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=3328336#post3328336

I really do not believe this at all.

Which is it 20 or 24 years?

Start answering please. You had more schools that an active duty Soldier would kill for and never see, and you did it all in the Air Guard.....

Actually it was 7 years of total service. 4 years in the National Guard and 3 years in the Navy.

@0 years or 24 years? Read my post. I said that it had been 24 years since I had been in a Titan II silo. Then I said that it had been over 20 years but I would answer what I could remember. Pruddy simple.

I joined the National Guard 10 Jan 82, discharged 6 Dec 85. Joined Navy 6 Dec 85, discharged ? Feb 89. I don't remember the exact date because I had like 44 days of leave built up. My last day on active duty was the Friday after Thanksgiving '88. This equals over 7 years of service. So, yea most of this was over 20 years ago.

For all of you that didn't get to go to any schools, gee, I guess you should have been a little more squared away. Plus, I volunteered for everything. In the NG, the recuiters handled all of the schools and I hounded them to go to schools. In the Navy, you had to go through either your detailer, or your division officer to go to schools. Mine was also from Arkansas, he liked me so I got to go to several schools. I volunteered for mine sweeper duty in the Pursian Gulf in '87, got sent to the ACU instead. Volunteered for Operation Deep Freeze in Antactica in '87 and '88. I got turned down in '87 for the next cycle ( it's a 1 year duty) and in '88 I was selected as a "possible" but brfore the finale selection, I was discharged for knee problems and hearing loss. ( I have an Appeals Board hearing on Friday 26 jan w/ the VA.) I volunteered for security detail to '88 Summer Olympics in Korea. I ended up in Pusan doing security for the windsurfing event. That was pretty cool. Not exactly what I wanted, but it was still pretty cool. Heck, I even volunteered for sub school. They had a fire in the barracks at sub school in New Gruton, Conn. so I didn't get to go, which turned out to be a good thing in away because I got to do the last half of a Med Cruise onboard the USS Nimitz CVN-68. Then I got to do the first part of a West Pac onboard the Nimitz too. I rode the boat from Subic Bay, PI to Point BeNo ( You know, Be No fun. Be No booze. Be No liberty. Be No women.) in the North Arabian Sea.

Nice thing about the NG, if your not deployed, you have the chance to go to schools. Same thing with the Navy. If you weren't "Haze gray and underway" you had the chance to go to school. If you were AFU and always in trouble, had a pisspoor attitude, slacker, whiner, etc., you were out of luck.

Firefights in Central America......My Tx Air Nat'l Guard unit had C-130's and we were taking humanitarian aid to the Contras in C. A. Put 2 and 2 together. The Ar Army NG's 39th Inf. Brig. spent 2 years in Iraq and it looks like they may being going back. You don't think all those 13B's were over there selling sno-cones and lollipops, do you?

Paul

stengun
01-23-2007, 23:25
Howdy Jeff82,Originally posted by Jeff82
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Wow! One of my active duty periods was '82-'85, as an airborne infantryman in the 82nd. My company received 4 (count'em, "four") slots for Ranger school in the ~three years I was there. To add insult to injury we got the slots while we were on a six month deployment to the Sinai desert, hence we weren't able to send anyone and the slots were redistributed to another battalion.



I wasn't in the Army, but I did train w/ the 3rd Air Cav (ACS I think it's called, at Ft Bliss in El Paso, Tx (Yea, Navy guys training w/ the Army Air Cav in the desert! What were we thinking!? McGregory Range in White Sands NM was pretty neat.) Anyway, I thought the 82nd was the Airborne Rangers? Right? I thought that you had to go to infantry school first (13B), then airborne school, then to ranger school, then you got assigned to like the 82nd or the 101st? I'm not sure, but I thought that's how it worked.

My wife said to say "NITEY NITE!"

Paul

Jeff82
01-24-2007, 10:04
Originally posted by stengun
Howdy Jeff82,

I wasn't in the Army, but I did train w/ the 3rd Air Cav (ACS I think it's called, at Ft Bliss in El Paso, Tx (Yea, Navy guys training w/ the Army Air Cav in the desert! What were we thinking!? McGregory Range in White Sands NM was pretty neat.) Anyway, I thought the 82nd was the Airborne Rangers? Right? I thought that you had to go to infantry school first (13B), then airborne school, then to ranger school, then you got assigned to like the 82nd or the 101st? I'm not sure, but I thought that's how it worked.

My wife said to say "NITEY NITE!"

Paul
Howdy, in this post you are a bit out of your element.

First, when saying you are in the "National Guard" please add "Air" to the front of it. "National Guard" alone indicates an "army" type unit whereas your stated service is in the "AIR Guard" aka "Air National Guard," an "air force" type unit.

Second, If you were (training) with the "3rd ACS" it was more likely the 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment (ACR). If with the aviation side then the sub-unit would likely have been the 3rd Combat Aviation Squadron (Provisional), later to become the 4th Squadron, 3rd ACR.

Third, the 82nd Abn is an airborne infantry division. No Rangers. Rangers (at the time I was in) were the 1st and 2nd Bn's, 75th Ranger Regiment. Now there is a 3rd Bn in the regiment. Many soldiers in the 82nd were/are "tabbed" (have completed Ranger school and are authorised to wear the black and gold Ranger Tab) but the 82nd is not a Ranger unit. There are three battalions of Rangers. The 82nd has nine battalions of airborne infantry plus all the other associated units that make up a division. Also a Ranger does not have to be "Airborne" (SQIs: "G" Ranger, "P" Parachutist, and "V" Ranger Parachutist) but I would guess 99.9% of them are as Jump School serves as a pretty effective first "weeding out" for Ranger candidates.

Fourth, the main infantry MOS is 11B. 13B is field artillery (tube).

Fifth, depending on your negotiating skill when entering sevice you can get certain schools as part of your contract. You can also get certain units gauranteed as long as you can qualify for them. I had the option of going Special Forces, Ranger, 82nd, 101st, etc. I got jump school and the 82nd in my contract. Because I thought (wrongly) that you could just follow a progression and constantly move "up", I choose to go to the 82nd with the idea I'd then volunteer for Ranger, then SF... Once in however you are subject to the whims of your branch manager and then it becomes a numbers game. You can volunteer all you want but if they need numbers in the unit you're in then you ain't going anywhere. About the only way you're going to be able to get out of what you're currently doing is if you volunteer at the same time as the unit you want to go to is critically short and they are having a "drive" to build numbers. Then DA will change priorities of the branch managers and then you may move/try out for the place you want to go. Lower enlisted rarely get access to the branch managers. They may learn the phone number but until you rise into the NCO ranks they aren't going to work with you. You are fodder. Even after getting to E-6 or so, you will have little pull and "needs of the army" always trumps what you want. E-7's have better luck as they are now on par with the managers but by then you are so far into your current career that changing is not usually the smartest move.

Oh, and "NITEY NITE!"

:)

Smashy
01-24-2007, 16:04
U.S. Army, 31V, joined in '84. Ft. Sill, Ft. Hood, Germany, Saudi (Desert Storm), Ft. Knox. ETS'd in '94.

stengun
01-25-2007, 22:19
Howdy Jeff82,

Originally posted by Jeff82
Howdy, in this post you are a bit out of your element.

First, when saying you are in the "National Guard" please add "Air" to the front of it. "National Guard" alone indicates an "army" type unit whereas your stated service is in the "AIR Guard" aka "Air National Guard," an "air force" type unit.

Second, If you were (training) with the "3rd ACS" it was more likely the 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment (ACR). If with the aviation side then the sub-unit would likely have been the 3rd Combat Aviation Squadron (Provisional), later to become the 4th Squadron, 3rd ACR.

Third, the 82nd Abn is an airborne infantry division. No Rangers. Rangers (at the time I was in) were the 1st and 2nd Bn's, 75th Ranger Regiment. Now there is a 3rd Bn in the regiment. Many soldiers in the 82nd were/are "tabbed" (have completed Ranger school and are authorised to wear the black and gold Ranger Tab) but the 82nd is not a Ranger unit. There are three battalions of Rangers. The 82nd has nine battalions of airborne infantry plus all the other associated units that make up a division. Also a Ranger does not have to be "Airborne" (SQIs: "G" Ranger, "P" Parachutist, and "V" Ranger Parachutist) but I would guess 99.9% of them are as Jump School serves as a pretty effective first "weeding out" for Ranger candidates.

Fourth, the main infantry MOS is 11B. 13B is field artillery (tube).

Fifth, depending on your negotiating skill when entering sevice you can get certain schools as part of your contract. You can also get certain units gauranteed as long as you can qualify for them. I had the option of going Special Forces, Ranger, 82nd, 101st, etc. I got jump school and the 82nd in my contract. Because I thought (wrongly) that you could just follow a progression and constantly move "up", I choose to go to the 82nd with the idea I'd then volunteer for Ranger, then SF... Once in however you are subject to the whims of your branch manager and then it becomes a numbers game. You can volunteer all you want but if they need numbers in the unit you're in then you ain't going anywhere. About the only way you're going to be able to get out of what you're currently doing is if you volunteer at the same time as the unit you want to go to is critically short and they are having a "drive" to build numbers. Then DA will change priorities of the branch managers and then you may move/try out for the place you want to go. Lower enlisted rarely get access to the branch managers. They may learn the phone number but until you rise into the NCO ranks they aren't going to work with you. You are fodder. Even after getting to E-6 or so, you will have little pull and "needs of the army" always trumps what you want. E-7's have better luck as they are now on par with the managers but by then you are so far into your current career that changing is not usually the smartest move.

Oh, and "NITEY NITE!"

:)

The National Guard is the National Guard. It doesn't matter if you are in the Army Guard or the Air Guard, either way if you were in the "Guard" in Arkansas in 2003, you got to spend the next 18 months in Iraq.

One of my best friends from High School dad was in the Air Guard (He had over 20 years in at the time) and he was the person that got me to join the Air Guard. He helped to work out my enlistment contract and that's part of what helped me to go to Combat Arms school and OJT right after boot camp and SP tech school. Since boot camp, SP tech school and Combat Arms school are all at Lackland AFB, and SP tech and C.A. school are all in the same place, this made things easier too. Plus, I also started out as an E-2 and got E-3 upon completion of SP tech school.

It was the 3rd whatever. I recall it was the Air Cav. They had BlackHawk Helos and didn't have tanks.

Yep, my bad. MOS for infantry is 11B, not 13B. I asked one of my retired Army Guard buddies. After spending 10 1/2 months Bosnia, then 18 months in Iraq, alot of them retired.

Yea, I see what you mean about the 82nd and the Rangers. At my last job I worked w/ a guy the bragged about being in the 5th SF at Ft. Lewis in Tacoma, WA. He had to bring in his DD214 to work for HR reasons and sure enough, he was assigned to the 5th SF. But he was a truck mechanic, not an 18B (I think that's the one for a Rambo type anyway)!

When I joined the Navy I worked out a preety good deal with then too. I was 21 and had 4 years in the Air Guard w/ alot of active duty time so I had a pretty good idea what to do and what not to fall for. Since I was an E-5 in the Air Guard, I was only dropped down to an E-3 w/ E-4 over 4 pay through boot camp and A school and was promoted to E-4 upon completion on A school w/ time in rank back dated to when I entered active duty so I was elible to take the E-5 exam after only being in the Navy for 7 months. I didn't pass the test on the first try and had to wait another 5 months to take the test again. I made it that time.

Plus I had an agreement to go to sub school, but I didn't get to go because of a fire in the barracks at sub school. I also had an agreement that would allow me to apply for BUD/S after I had spent 1 year in the fleet ( assigned to a ship that had spent time at sea).

Anyway, I have an Appeals Board hearing w/ the VA tomarrow and I need to round up my stuff for it.

Paul

justinhcannon
01-26-2007, 21:00
Air Guard has combat arms? wtf...

Jeff82
01-26-2007, 21:21
Originally posted by justinhcannon
Air Guard has combat arms? wtf...
Somebody's got to keep the waiters at the dining facility in line!!

:rofl:

justinhcannon
01-26-2007, 21:35
I was just thinking back to when BOTH my parents were still in the Army up in Ft. Bragg. When we were walking around post and my dad saw an "air-man", he would start singing...(not TOO loud anyway)

"Off we go,
into the wild blue yonder...CRASH!"

It always got him some funny looks, but heck he was a 6'2" 240 lb E-7. Mom was an E-5. I wore BDUs and a black beret since I could walk (I never grew out of that stage it seems). What were they gonna do?

Jeff82
01-26-2007, 21:41
Originally posted by stengun
Howdy Jeff82,



The National Guard is the National Guard. It doesn't matter if you are in the Army Guard or the Air Guard, either way if you were in the "Guard" in Arkansas in 2003, you got to spend the next 18 months in Iraq.
The difference is great enough that you'd want to identify it. They are not the same. That'd be like saying "students" are the same when talking about kindergarten and graduate students. They aren't and need to be identified. (I'm surprised, most Air Force types wouldn't be caught dead being mistook as an "army" guy. For some reason doesn't seem to phase you...)(BTW, you can tell when a guy is in the army: when asked what he's in an army guy will [usually] say "I'm in the military." Any other service member will proclaim their own service.)

...

Yea, I see what you mean about the 82nd and the Rangers. At my last job I worked w/ a guy the bragged about being in the 5th SF at Ft. Lewis in Tacoma, WA. He had to bring in his DD214 to work for HR reasons and sure enough, he was assigned to the 5th SF. But he was a truck mechanic, not an 18B (I think that's the one for a Rambo type anyway)!

Back in the 80's all units that supported SF were allowed to wear the green beenie, so you had a lot of wussie REMF pogues out running around thinking and telling people they were special forces. I knew one (from a Sig unit [35th Sig?- their patch was the "Electric *****-cat"]-our girlfriends were friends) who thought he was the scheiz. Then one night when driving down to see them (I was following him in my own car) he got a flat and WAS TOO WEAK TO TURN THE LUG WRENCH! What a panty waist.
Paul

Jeff82
01-26-2007, 21:51
Originally posted by justinhcannon
I was just thinking back to when BOTH my parents were still in the Army up in Ft. Bragg. When we were walking around post and my dad saw an "air-man", he would start singing...(not TOO loud anyway)

"Off we go,
into the wild blue yonder...CRASH!"

It always got him some funny looks, but heck he was a 6'2" 240 lb E-7. Mom was an E-5. I wore BDUs and a black beret since I could walk (I never grew out of that stage it seems). What were they gonna do?

I'm not kiddin'! Me and a high school bud were at Bragg (I was Inf-light wpns, he was ADA-Vulcan). The first time we went down to Myrtle Beach we went and ate at the AF base. I was stunned to see carpet, then bamboozled when the cook asked me how I wanted my eggs, and was completely floored when I saw a card on the table that said, "Please place on tray when using the restroom so wait staff won't take your tray in your absence."!!!!

Holy Shnikes Batman!! I was in a whole nother world! I about spit up my chocolate milk!!

PS I remember singing that song too, usually when drunk!

stengun
01-28-2007, 17:09
Howdy justin,

Originally posted by justinhcannon
Air Guard has combat arms? wtf...

Sure do. The Af has a 6 week course at Lackland AFB, TX

How do you think they guard the base, get army guys?

Paul

justinhcannon
01-28-2007, 17:56
Well...MPs aren't considered "combat arms" in the Army. Do they get frag grenades and .50 cals, too?

stengun
01-29-2007, 17:02
Howdy justin,

Originally posted by justinhcannon
Well...MPs aren't considered "combat arms" in the Army. Do they get frag grenades and .50 cals, too?

"Combat Arms" is a school, not a job title. No .50cal.:50cal: But when your operating as an ABGD unit you do get frags and we did have a couple of M-60s.

There is alot of difference between an Air Force Securtiy Police and an Army Military Police. Two totally different missions.

Paul

justinhcannon
01-29-2007, 18:51
The only "combat arms" Air Force types I ever met was when I was in the 75th Ranger Regiment. We had some PJs and Combat Controllers. THOSE dudes classify as combat arms, as well as our Air Support assets. Just curious, what's the big deal with Air Force SPs.

Sam White
01-29-2007, 19:17
Not taking sides here, but go check out "combat arms" in the Air Force forum. I've been in the Army and am in the Air Guard right now. I know what you're thinking justin, but the phrase means something completely different in the Air Force.

jmshady
01-29-2007, 20:24
I just figured the Stungun guy out.....

Read his signature line....


How did the Air Force guard the Airfield at Balad Air Base in Iraq? They set the perimeter a couple of kilometers inside the Army's perimeter of LSA Anaconda. How do they Guard them here stateside? Behind the civilian contractors outside perimeter.

And yes there is two totally different missions. MP's earn there pay dealing with bad guys. SP wear SF on their shoulder and harass everyone trying to do their job on an airfield. A huge difference. No offense intended to the SP that are here. I was not smart enough to join the AF and live an easy life.

I have had enough of your crap I am calling you a POSER for the simple fact that you have yet to answer the questions posed to you except for some more, away from the point, rambling. I am still waiting to here about the mini knife school, I need a good laugh tonight.

A medic I work with spent time in the Air Force. He washed out of PJ school for medical reasons and has had a good laugh at your posts. PJ's who are Special Forces, I clarify because the AF likes the SF thing for there runway cops, and do not see the schools you mentioned. Neither do the Combat Controllers.

Go swap your stories with Kerry you two will make a good pair.

justinhcannon
01-29-2007, 20:38
I guess it's just different, huh.

stengun
01-30-2007, 10:17
Howdy jmshady,

Originally posted by jmshady
I just figured the Stungun guy out.....

Read his signature line....


How did the Air Force guard the Airfield at Balad Air Base in Iraq? They set the perimeter a couple of kilometers inside the Army's perimeter of LSA Anaconda. How do they Guard them here stateside? Behind the civilian contractors outside perimeter.

And yes there is two totally different missions. MP's earn there pay dealing with bad guys. SP wear SF on their shoulder and harass everyone trying to do their job on an airfield. A huge difference. No offense intended to the SP that are here. I was not smart enough to join the AF and live an easy life.

I have had enough of your crap I am calling you a POSER for the simple fact that you have yet to answer the questions posed to you except for some more, away from the point, rambling. I am still waiting to here about the mini knife school, I need a good laugh tonight.

A medic I work with spent time in the Air Force. He washed out of PJ school for medical reasons and has had a good laugh at your posts. PJ's who are Special Forces, I clarify because the AF likes the SF thing for there runway cops, and do not see the schools you mentioned. Neither do the Combat Controllers.

Go swap your stories with Kerry you two will make a good pair.

Gee, I don't know what the AF does in Iraq in 2007. I got out in 1988 and was never in Iraq. The only AFB on that I've been to outside the USA was Clark AFB in PI. It was guarded by USAF SPs and LEs.

Yea, I remember you. You are one of those malcontent whiners that didn't get to do anything because all you ever did was sat around and whined about everything. Let me guess, all you did was go to boot camp, then some 6 week or so non-rate school, then after a couple of weeks of leave, your were sent to some base and hung out in the barracks most of the time and whiner about everything. Then, when your EOAS was up, they told you to pack your bags and go home. They didn't try to get you to reenlist or offer you any schools, promotions or anything. Yea, I remember your type. In the Navy, your type was TAD to the galley, or the laundry so we did have to deal with you or listen to you whine all the time.

Heck, were you ever even in the military? Being in the Girl Scouts of America and the Brownies does not mean you were in the military.

Mini knife fighting school was held at Bangor Sub base in Bangor, WA in the spring on '87. We also learned about the PR-24 nightstick ( The little baton that has the handle on the side.) They each lasted a week. It beat the hell out of having to listen to a bunch of malcontents whine about everything.

Sp wear SF on their uniforms? Gee, that's news to me. The 1st 2 years we wore the green fatiges. The last 2 years we wore camo BDU's. The only thing that was on our BDUs were a velcroed blacck patch above the lt. hand shirt pocket that listed our name and rank. Nothing else. Surely not anykind of SF patch. We did have 2 different groups of SPs, flight line security and ABGD (Air Base Ground Defense).

Rambling? Heck, I'm just answering the questions as they come up.

You were never in the USAF? Gee, I thought that by your post that you were like a 40 year vetern of the AF and currently stationed at Balad AFB in Iraq and had been a member of the Arkansas Air National Guard and the Texas Air National Guard, since you seem to be a ex-spurt on all of them. Plus the US Navy. How many years did you spend in any of these?

You asked someone at work? That's funny. I work with a guy that swears that Elvis is working at the EZ-Mart on University Ave. in Little Rock, Ar.

Poser? yea, whatever. See the comments above.

Anyway, is my VA check going to be here on the 31st or the 1st this time?

Paul

Edited for this P.S. I like my sig line. "The raping of middle class America.....". Who do you think is going to pay the $5 trillion dollar deficit that Lil' George/Chaney/Haliburton have run up already? It sure isn't going to be Haliburton and the Big Box Store. It's going to be working middle class Americans that is going to hsve to pay for it. Gee, 6 months ago I paid $3.30/gallon for gas now it $1.92/gallon. Same supply w/ even more demand than 6 months ago. Same stuff going on w/ Iraq, Iran and N. Korea. So why so cheap now. Plus everytime a Dem says anything about indicting Big Oil, the price drops a few cents a gallon. Heck at this rate by the '08 elections Big Oil will be paying me to take their gas. :banana: PDC

PSS...Dang typos! Gee, there was more, but now I can't find them.

Ok jmshady, let the whining began. Instead of rambling, ask question in a 1.), 2.) 3.) type of order. This makes it alot easier to answer, instead of some off the wall, out in left feild rambling about stuff that I have no idea about what you aer talking about, like the SP wearing SF patches. PDC

justinhcannon
01-30-2007, 11:15
Originally posted by stengun
Howdy jmshady,



Gee, I don't know what the AF does in Iraq in 2007. I got out in 1988 and was never in Iraq. The only AFB on that I've been to outside the USA was Clark AFB in PI. It was guarded by USAF SPs and LEs.

Yea, I remember you. You are one of those malcontent whiners that didn't get to do anything because all you ever did was sat around and whined about everything. Let me guess, all you did was go to boot camp, then some 6 week or so non-rate school, then after a couple of weeks of leave, your were sent to some base and hung out in the barracks most of the time and whiner about everything. Then, when your EOAS was up, they told you to pack your bags and go home. They didn't try to get you to reenlist or offer you any schools, promotions or anything. Yea, I remember your type. In the Navy, your type was TAD to the galley, or the laundry so we did have to deal with you or listen to you whine all the time.

Heck, were you ever even in the military? Being in the Girl Scouts of America and the Brownies does not mean you were in the military.

Mini knife fighting school was held at Bangor Sub base in Bangor, WA in the spring on '87. We also learned about the PR-24 nightstick ( The little baton that has the handle on the side.) They each lasted a week. It beat the hell out of having to listen to a bunch of malcontents whine about everything.

Sp wear SF on their uniforms? Gee, that's news to me. The 1st 2 years we wore the green fatiges. The last 2 years we wore camo BDU's. The only thing that was on our BDUs were a velcroed blacck patch above the lt. hand shirt pocket that listed our name and rank. Nothing else. Surely not anykind of SF patch. We did have 2 different groups of SPs, flight line security and ABGD (Air Base Ground Defense).

Rambling? Heck, I'm just answering the questions as they come up.

You were never in the USAF? Gee, I thought that by your post that you were like a 40 year vetern of the AF and currently stationed at Balad AFB in Iraq and had been a member of the Arkansas Air National Guard and the Texas Air National Guard, since you seem to be a ex-spurt on all of them. Plus the US Navy. How many years did you spend in any of these?

You asked someone at work? That's funny. I work with a guy that swears that Elvis is working at the EZ-Mart on University Ave. in Little Rock, Ar.

Poser? yea, whatever. See the comments above.

Anyway, is my VA check going to be here on the 31st or the 1st this time?

Paul

Edited for this P.S. I like my sig line. "The raping of middle class America.....". Who do you think is going to pay the $5 trillion dollar deficit that Lil' George/Chaney/Haliburton have run up already? It sure isn't going to be Haliburton and the Big Box Store. It's going to be working middle class Americans that is going to hsve to pay for it. Gee, 6 months ago I paid $3.30/gallon for gas now it $1.92/gallon. Same supply w/ even more demand than 6 months ago. Same stuff going on w/ Iraq, Iran and N. Korea. So why so cheap now. Plus everytime a Dem says anything about indicting Big Oil, the price drops a few cents a gallon. Heck at this rate by the '08 elections Big Oil will be paying me to take their gas. :banana: PDC

PSS...Dang typos! Gee, there was more, but now I can't find them.

Ok jmshady, let the whining began. Instead of rambling, ask question in a 1.), 2.) 3.) type of order. This makes it alot easier to answer, instead of some off the wall, out in left feild rambling about stuff that I have no idea about what you aer talking about, like the SP wearing SF patches. PDC

Your VA check should be in on the 1st. That's when mine usually comes. However it took over a year to actually get the check. On the plus side...it included back-pay.
As far as politics, leave that to GNG.
As far as you going to all these schools, I'm still going to be wearing waders walking through this. If you did go to these, well good for you. As a member of SOCOM, however, I did NOT have an opportunity for most of these, and neither did anyone I know. Hence my suspicion.

jmshady
01-30-2007, 15:23
Yea, I remember you. You are one of those malcontent whiners that didn't get to do anything because all you ever did was sat around and whined about everything. Let me guess, all you did was go to boot camp, then some 6 week or so non-rate school, then after a couple of weeks of leave, your were sent to some base and hung out in the barracks most of the time and whiner about everything. Then, when your EOAS was up, they told you to pack your bags and go home. They didn't try to get you to reenlist or offer you any schools, promotions or anything. Yea, I remember your type. In the Navy, your type was TAD to the galley, or the laundry so we did have to deal with you or listen to you whine all the time.

Actually 9 years in the Army, as a medic, held past ETS date on stop loss because of a 14 month Deployment to OIF II.

Rambling? Heck, I'm just answering the questions as they come up.

Asked about schools and service and you talk about some Army BS that shows ignorance, and training with some Army unit.

Edited for this P.S. I like my sig line. "The raping of middle class America.....". Who do you think is going to pay the $5 trillion dollar deficit that Lil' George/Chaney/Haliburton have run up already? It sure isn't going to be Haliburton and the Big Box Store. It's going to be working middle class Americans that is going to hsve to pay for it. Gee, 6 months ago I paid $3.30/gallon for gas now it $1.92/gallon. Same supply w/ even more demand than 6 months ago. Same stuff going on w/ Iraq, Iran and N. Korea. So why so cheap now. Plus everytime a Dem says anything about indicting Big Oil, the price drops a few cents a gallon. Heck at this rate by the '08 elections Big Oil will be paying me to take their gas. PDC

I was refering to Kerry, You know the Swift Boat incident thing and all....


start with this one.
how long was basic and tech school add 24 more weeks and the time for a mini school on knife fighting....

Why did they let you out Of the air guard so soon?

Where did you do sniper school at?

G8rzfan
01-30-2007, 15:54
Stengun posted:
I guarded the old Titan II missile silos. They are all decomissioned now. They were located north of the Little Rock AFB in the area kinda between Jacksonville, west to Greebriar, north to Heber Springs, east to Cabot and back south to Jacksonville. They are all within a hundred miles of where I live today. Heck, back in the late '90s they were for sale.

It wasn't at my discretion. There are always three people in the control room of an ICBM silo, the launch control officer, his assistant, and a security police (SP). The MIMS crew took care of preparing the missle for launch. If the order to launch was given by the President and for whatever reason, either member of the launch team refused to turn the key and push the button, since it takes two people to launch the missle, it was the duty of the ARMED SP to assist in launching the missle. It wasn't my call, just my duty.

I didn't need to know launch procedures. I just needed to be willing to force the officer(s) to "Push the button" The button was a keyed push button. the keys were locked in a safe and only the officers had access to the keys.

Silo officer was what I was calling the launch control officer. He was usually the ranking officer in the silo, hench, silo officer.

If you have any other questions, ask away. It's been 24 years since I've been in a silo, but ask away, and I'll anwser what I can remember.

Stengun,
I don’t have questions, I have a word of advice…if you are going to post lies; at least do your homework.

Other than Titan IIs being at Little Rock, the rest of your post is pure crapola.

Titan silos were manned by a 4 person missile ops crew:
Missile Combat Crew Commander (officer)
Deputy Missile Combat Crew Commander (officer)
Missile Systems Analyst Technician (enlisted)
Missile Facilities Technician (enlisted)

We were armed with issue .38s. As for Security Forces…there were ART Teams that were responsible for topside security. Each ART Team was responsible for 3 sites, called a sector. Each sector had an SP Supervisor. Security personnel did not enter the control center with loaded weapons, period. They were cleared and secured prior to coming down.

MMS personnel were strictly maintenance. They were dispatched to sites on an as needed basis to perform missile or facility maintenance and were not part of missile launch prep.

There was no button to push per se, it was a synchronized key turn. You could not be part of the launch process unless you were very familiar with launch, copy and decode, and message verification procedures.

The common parlance for the crew officers was “commander” and “dep”, unless someone other than the crew was present. During those times we addressed each other by rank/last name.
I know these things because I was a missile systems analyst tech on Titan IIs. I was stationed at Little Rock AFB, AR from Feb 82 until the phase out of the weapon system in Aug 87. I was initially assigned to the 373rd Strategic Missile Squadron, 308th Strategic Missile Wing. I have no problem posting scans of my APRs or DD214 as verification. I even have some pics, if you like.

It took a lot to get through our tech school and even more to maintain our qualification in the field. I cannot sit by and let someone spread lies and half-truths about how we conducted business. We were a well trained, disciplined, and professional group who held up our end of the strategic triad.

Actually, I do have a few questions for you…
Have you ever actually been in a Titan missile silo?
To which complex were you assigned?
How many blast doors did you have to pass through to get to the control center?
What level is the control center on?
What is the TPS-39 system? ( a Titan missile security guy would know)
Can you give me the names of any of the “silo officers”?

You have been called out. I await your response. I hope you step forward and admit your error...and just be content and honest with what you really did in the military. That is where respect lies.

jmshady
01-30-2007, 18:55
Originally posted by jmshady
Where did you do sniper school at?

http://userpages.aug.com/captbarb/sniper.html

Donaldson and seven men graduated April 14 from the first countersniper program for Air Guard security force personnel conducted by the 8-year-old National Guard Sniper School. It was the first program of its kind for any U.S. Air Force component. "The Air Force has been the only ground combat force in this country that does not employ snipers and countersnipers," said Army Guard Sgt. 1st Class Ben Dolan, a former Marine sniper and the school's chief instructor.

This article is from April 14, 2001.

Six years old. FIRST PROGRAM OF IT'S KIND FOR ANY US AIR FORCE COMPONENT

"THE AIRFORCE HAS BEEN THE ONLY GROUND COMBAT FORCE IN THIS COUNTRY THAT DOES NOT EMPLOY SNIPERS AND COUNTERSNIPERS"

The National Guard sniper was 8 years old at that time....ummmm.....14 years old now and you got out something like 20 errr no 24 years ago.

To top that off the school is in Arkansas so you might have been able to fool people with that. Before that the school was available in only two places that I KNOW YOU WOULD HAVE NEVER been to. there are not enough seats to the school either place. To top that off this was the first time AF personnel were trained in this.

That and the post before this is not looking to good for you hero... ohh wait...

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j187/91W/inteenethero.jpg

Hate it when that happens......

Be a man and be honest about your service and I'll put you back above the dog crap on my shoe.

agentl074
02-02-2007, 22:17
I was at:

Lackland AFB- Basic and Cop school
Minot AFB- need I say more lol and got out as E4 3P051 and loving the experience and tools gained from my tour which has helped me as a Indiana LEO.

dwoeltje
02-26-2007, 15:35
I served for 9 and a half years, from '76 to '85 in the USAF.

Lackland AFB, TX
Kadena AB, Okinawa
Osan AB, Korea
Kunsan AB, Korea,
Clark AB, Philippines
K.I. Sawyer AFB, MI
Keesler AFB, MS
Pope AFB, NC

I served as an Air Force Security Police. When I re-upped, I switch to the Computer Operations field.

Was part of Operation Paul Bunyon and Operation Urgent Fury.

USAFE7RET
03-18-2007, 19:47
Apr 69 - May 93 USAF Wpns Mech/Acft Armament Systems

Lackland AFB, TX - Basic
Lowry AFB, CO - Tech Trn
69-71 Luke AFB, Az F-100
71-72 Ubon RTAFB, Thailand A/C-130 Gun Shop
72-73 Loring AFB, Me B-52
73-74 Udorn RTAFB, Thailand F-4
74-78 Luke AFB F-15
78-82 Lowry AFB, Co Instructor
82-89 Castle AFB, Ca B-52 Equipment Maintenance
89-90 Torrojon AB, Spain DCM Staff
90-93 Langley AFB, Va 94FS A little bit of everything
May 93 Retired

We enjoyed our 24 years, made some mistakes along the way but it was a good life.

justinhcannon
03-18-2007, 23:08
Originally posted by dwoeltje
I served for 9 and a half years, from '76 to '85 in the USAF.

Lackland AFB, TX
Kadena AB, Okinawa
Osan AB, Korea
Kunsan AB, Korea,
Clark AB, Philippines
K.I. Sawyer AFB, MI
Keesler AFB, MS
Pope AFB, NC

I served as an Air Force Security Police. When I re-upped, I switch to the Computer Operations field.

Was part of Operation Paul Bunyon and Operation Urgent Fury.

Both my parents were stationed at Kadena around tat timeframe. They were both Army Intel at Torii Station

agentl074
03-20-2007, 17:23
So are there any fmr. Cops here that have served in the Northern Tier
Bases?

Round Pounder
03-29-2007, 20:54
I was Navy from '90 - '96. After about a year-and-a-half of schools in Orlando, Chicago, and Norfolk, I was assigned to the Joint Communications Support Element (JCSE) at MacDill AFB, Fl (http://www.jcse.mil/nf/jcse_missionnf.html). My CO was Army, as was the CSM. We obviously had Air Force and a few Marines as well. Joint service all the way.

We provided tactical communications support (mostly satellite but line-of-sight stuff too) to a variety of organizations. Hotspots of the world at that time included (of course) the Middle East and east-central Africa, both of which I spent a fair amount of time deployed to. Also spent some time a bit further east, as far as Pakistan.

I continue to serve today as an independent contractor. No uniform, better pay.

:cheers: to all who served or are currently serving honorably - in any capacity and in any place!

Life member - VFW Post 101

Great Googly Moogly
09-09-2010, 03:49
Downed pilots/aircrew were VERY happy to see us. They did their job. My job was to get them home safely...at any cost.

Great Googly Moogly
09-09-2010, 03:54
I just figured the Stungun guy out.....

Read his signature line....


How did the Air Force guard the Airfield at Balad Air Base in Iraq? They set the perimeter a couple of kilometers inside the Army's perimeter of LSA Anaconda. How do they Guard them here stateside? Behind the civilian contractors outside perimeter.

And yes there is two totally different missions. MP's earn there pay dealing with bad guys. SP wear SF on their shoulder and harass everyone trying to do their job on an airfield. A huge difference. No offense intended to the SP that are here. I was not smart enough to join the AF and live an easy life.

I have had enough of your crap I am calling you a POSER for the simple fact that you have yet to answer the questions posed to you except for some more, away from the point, rambling. I am still waiting to here about the mini knife school, I need a good laugh tonight.

A medic I work with spent time in the Air Force. He washed out of PJ school for medical reasons and has had a good laugh at your posts. PJ's who are Special Forces, I clarify because the AF likes the SF thing for there runway cops, and do not see the schools you mentioned. Neither do the Combat Controllers.

Go swap your stories with Kerry you two will make a good pair.

Combat Controllers were responsible for the quick route of the Taliban in Afghanistan.

I ran the Pipline in 1975 and earned my MAROON BERET. PJ and CC candidants MUST complete HALO training, or they are out. Period.

Great Googly Moogly
09-10-2010, 06:31
http://www.usafacommunity.com/forum/members/afa_mom-albums-posted-pictures-picture154-sniper.gif

Ralff
09-13-2010, 07:42
Enlisted as a 3C in 99
Maxwell AFB in 2000
Osan in 2004
Patrick AFB in 2005

AF decided it didn't need me as a 3C anymore in 2007 (NCORP). Retrained to 9S in 2008 at Goodfellow. Returned to Patrick in 2008 and have been here since. :supergrin:

J_Rico
09-13-2010, 11:23
Served in the US Navy as an ET 1997-2006.

Boot in Great Lakes.
4 1/2 years on an FFG out of San Diego.
1 Westpac and 2 CracPacs.
Then more schools about a year with hold time at Pensacola.
3 Years at NASJAX. Loved Jacksonville and almost stayed there.

Glad that I served and miss it all the time, but I missed my kids more.

ecurrent
11-10-2011, 20:23
I enlisted in the US Navy in 1972, at 16years of age (I'd already finished high school, Mom signed!). Started as a Fireman Apprentice, switched to the Deck Crew, but ended striking for ET (Nav/Comm & Sat Comm in the early stages). 2 West Pacs (7th Fleet Amphib, LSD-36 & LST-1186), 4 Typhoons, and 2 trips to Shellback land. Should have stayed in, but got out in 76 when they froze advancements. Joined the Marine Corps in 1980 but never finished boot camp (shin splints, tendinitis). Honorable Discharges from both branches. Broke my heart, but only the strong should serve. All in all, I'd say with out a doubt, I have been blessed by our Country. Thanks to all my fellow Vets for your service. Anchors away and Semper Fi

Harrison
07-18-2012, 18:15
Navy Nuke 1973-1981 MM1

USS South Carolina CGN 37
USS Nimitz CVN 68
USS L.Y. Spear AS 36


I also did some time on the USS Dixie AD 14 in San Diego waiting for my nuke class to form up. :cool:

deutscheglocker
07-18-2012, 19:29
It's been a while since I was back here. My info is back in 04 or so.

Anyone recognize this?




http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l103/poofy27/BobHopesChopper.jpg

ernier
07-19-2012, 01:38
Enlisted in aug of 90 and shipped out to Ft Sill for 13b OSUT completed training and shipped to Hanau Germany and assigned to C btry 2/20 Fa Bn an 8 inch howitzer unit in december of 90. I stayed in germany till early 92 when unit was deactivated due howitzer being phased out . Sent to Fort Hood to finish out my service assigned to A-Btry 333 fa 1st Calvary Div. Ets in Dec 92 . And finished out my commitment with Texas Army Natl Guard as a 54b

Outdoor Hub mobile, the outdoor information engine

mgentry
07-19-2012, 08:26
24 plus years in the United States Air Force.
Flunked out of Mississippi State (1966) - got draft notice so I enlisted in the AF.
Lackland AFB, TX - Basic Training - Sept 1966
Keesler AFB, MS - Electronics and Radar repair and operator school
1st Combat Eval Gp - Statesboro, GA
Two tours in Viet Nam - Bien Hoa
Returned to Mississippi State - Sept 1970
Competed my degree and commissioned in AF (May 1973)
Pilot Training at Columbus AFB, MS
Got my wings 1974
Selected to be a T-38 Instructor Pilot
New Assignment B-52 (1977) CCTS - Castle AFB, CA
Barksdale AFB, LA 1978 (B-52G)
Offutt AFB, NE 1982 (HQ)
Carswell AFB, TX 1988 (B-52H)
Air Force ROTC Oklahoma State University (1992)
Retired 1993 from active duty
Air Force Junior ROTC at Madison Central HS for 18 years (1993 -2011)
Retired - really retired!
Had a blast and got paid to do it!

crazyasian1
07-19-2012, 09:03
17 years in the AF and still truckin', Security Forces by choice, no open general for me! Been to Dyess 93-98, Kunsan 98-99, Patrick 99-07, Offutt 07-09 and the NRO 09-current. Also deployed to Ali al Salem, al Dhafra, LSA Anaconda and COB Speicher. Best tour was at Anaconda, where I ran a squad of gun trucks from Det 2632 with the 181 Trans BN. Army actually awarded me a combat patch and CAB for *gasp!!* actual combat actions. Yes you read that right, AIR FORCE.... SECURITY (not SPECIAL) FORCES... in combat.

Of course the AF won't let me wear them but they are a source of pride and sure will look purty in the retirement shadow box.

MrMurphy
07-20-2012, 00:01
You aren't the only one. I got stuck at the Deid, which was better than no deployment at all, but not much of one.

Others from my unit saw pretty extensive outside the wire action running around Baghdad with the INP (more or less playing infantry for a year as backup to the INP guys), others were in Kirkuk, Bucca (inside and outside) and many other places.

And yeah, those guys at Balad? They wanted to get out and fight too. Got to follow orders, even the dumber ones. We didn't go out of our way to harass anyone, anywhere, unless they were being extremely dumb.


I was never Northern Tier, though I've known quite a few guys who were (some of the guys I was at the Deid with had finally escaped Minot for England and then deployed), and some of stengun's stuff sounds quite a bit suspect......including all those schools.

zo6kid
07-20-2012, 17:03
U.S.Army 68-71. Basic Ft. Benning , AIT Ft. Rucker . One tour Frankfert W. Germany . One tour S. Viet Nam Americal Division !!! To much FUN to recall . Many thanks to all that served !

63bmechanic
08-01-2012, 10:38
3rd ID 1-64 AR out of Ft. Stewart. was OIF 3, 5 and, 7. people claim 7 wasnt an OIF, well dont tell 3rd ID that. we were there.

nomadrider
08-07-2012, 16:16
Started as a 64C (truck driver) and became a 95B (MP) Whole time with the 4th Inf Div - HHC 1Bn / 8th Bde.

I worry about saying anything. So many people seem ready to pounce and say you were not. But I want to get the word out there. Only found one guy so far from the old outfit. Back then they called me Yogi Bear.

ArtyGuy
08-08-2012, 18:24
24+ years of combined service and counting

1988-1993: I was enlisted in the NH and then transferred to the VT National Guard. I was a 13B (Cannon Crewmember)

I went on active duty in 1993 after college and commissioned as a 2LT in the Army and my branch is Field Artillery (13A).

Duty stations

Korea, FT Bragg, FT Campbell, FT Irwin, Indianapolis, IN, FT Drum, Shaw AFB, and I'm currently at FT Belvoir. Several combat deployments, various TDYs that have sent me to all corners of the world, and a CONUS deployment to fight fires. It's been good to me.

Thanks to all who have served (families included!).

epilepticninja
09-06-2012, 15:23
My dad, his brother, and my mother's brother were all in the Air Force. So me, I went into USAF delayed enlistment at 17 years old and into basic training a month after high school graduation. I spent 12 years working in communications on active duty. While on active duty, I became interested in law enforcement and eventually became a reserve sheriff's deputy, then a reserve police officer.

I got off of active duty and went into the active reserves where I was assigned to a USAFR Red Horse (combat engineers) squadron. I spent six years in Red Horse before I took an assignment as a reservist assigned to an active duty higher headquarters directorate in Hawaii. I was assigned there for six years before I retired in 2010. All told, 12 years active, 12 years active reserves, 5 years part time law enforcement.

Nowdays I work for a government contractor. I'm currently working at the Edson Range at Camp Pendleton, CA. I love the military and have been either in it, or around it, since I was 17. I've strived to do my best by all those I served with, and to help support those that are serving now.

SMSgt (Ret) D. - VFW Member

82ndAbn
09-10-2012, 08:08
I jumped into Omar Torrijos Int'l Airport while people were shooting at me. I got a star on my jump wings for it. I was 18 years of age at the time. I policed up my chute on the DZ with my M9 drawn then retrieved my M60 from the 1950 weapons container case. I had a 50 round teaser belt in it but I quickly swapped it out with a 200 round belt from my ruck. Shots and tracers were still being passed around so I kept low. I ran into two other paratroopers and one ranger enroute to my RP. We linked up and found our way to the main strip.

But I guess I'm being long winded... It was an exciting night

eldend63
09-10-2012, 15:23
I enlisted in the army in 1997 as a 11X. Went to basic down at Ft. Benning. Graduated as a 11M and was stationed on Kelly Hill at Ft. Benning B Co 1/30 INF (3 ID) till 1999.

Stationed in Schweinfurt Germany from 1999-2001. C Co and HHC 1/26 INF (1 ID) Deployed to Kosovo.

Joined the Ga National Guard from 2001-2007. A Co 1-121 INF (48th BDE) Deployed to Iraq and New Mexico.

Joned the Army Reserves from 2009-2011. Bde S2/S3 (98th Div IET)