Which would you choose?

[OUSooner]

Between an Egyptian Maadi, Romanaian Sar-1, or a Mak-90. Everything being stock of coarse and state reasons for making your choice.

[chevrofreak]

MAK-90

Very good trigger out of the box, the steel is thicker than most, very reliable, blued rather than painted, Chinese steel is very durable.

[Old School]

For one and only AK - the MAK-90. An all around a fine weapon.

If I had another AK (or several) and just had to have one more, it would be the SAR.

[OUSooner]

Chevrofreak how did I know you would chime in;f . Interesting that you all would pick the only one with a thumbhole stock over the two pistol grip models.

[cocked@locked]

ah cmon, i cant pick a favorite there all great rifles as far as im concerned,but the pistol grips seem too catch my fancy for the original look and the comfort

[chevrofreak]

Originally posted by OUSooner
Chevrofreak how did I know you would chime in;f . Interesting that you all would pick the only one with a thumbhole stock over the two pistol grip models.


The painful thumbhole stock wasnt much of a concern to me when I bought the gun since I planned on modding it anyway. I am considering doing the parts conversion so I can put an M249 or M16 grip and a traditional style buttstock on it.

If you're looking for a gun to run completely stock the SAR-1 is a very good choice provided the monkeys hammering them together had been given their ration of bannanas for the day.

The MAK-90 stock fits some people perfectly, and doesnt fit others well at all (caused severe pain in the web of my hand). I switched to an ATI Fiberforce stock which has a much longer pistol grip section that I can actually put all of my fingers on.

As far as a base gun to modify I think the MAK-90 is built better than the other two.

[Spartan24]

I have an RML MAADI and it is a very fine AK. I have seen the Mak-90s and shot the SARs. I'll take my Maadi anyday.

[Michigun]

If that MAK-90 has the stamped receiver then that’s my 1st choice… I don’t care for any milled AK. Next would be the SAR-1 & last would be the Maadi.

If I was looking for an AK & wanting to spend the least amount of cash I would have to go with the SAR-1 for my 1st choice… I like my AK’s to have the pistol grip look & the SAR comes that way. The MAK is going to take some cash to get it into a pistol grip.

[one good cop]

the ak-47's in the choices were all stamped not milled ..milled mac 90's were a rare breed and were copied off the poly tech....second of all a milled reciever is better than any stamped reciever except for the vepr which has the rpk reciever. I have owned all of the ak-47 variants described above and more .....milled is by far the best of all except the vepr which is side by side with milled as far as quality. michigun if you knew anything about ak-47's you would know this. If I had to choose between the three it would be the chinese because the steel is better .....not personal opinion only the facts...;f ;f

[CincyBrad]

Get the Mak-90.

[OUSooner]

Well I already own a Chinese and a Romanian. The reason for the poll is because I have kind of been longing for an Egyptian. I was trying to gage the Maadis to the two I already have. Judging from you all's post maybe I will pass on it. Thanks

[Michigun]

Originally posted by one good cop
… reciever… reciever… reciever…

michigun if you knew anything about ak-47's you would know this.

.....not personal opinion only the facts...

;T

I thought about getting a little “tuned-up” about the personal attack, but then I see your lack of punctuation, the ability to spell ‘receiver’ (“I” before “E” except after “C”) & that it seems you’re an LEO… I was always taught to respect LEO’s……. (Not their education, just their work… ;))



The “milled” -vs- “stamped” choice is a personal one. My main reason for not caring for the milled receiver is because of the added weight.

You say “fact” eh? I see none of these so-called facts… not one.

By the way, milled MAK-90’s aren’t that rare… if anything, stamped MAK-90’s are.

(What is this “mac 90” you keep referring to anyways? My AK has “MAK-90” stamped on its left side…)

P.S. I used to have a milled MAK-90 to go with my stamped MAK-90…

(It’s quite obvious who knows the least about AK’s…)

[one good cop]

no sense in getting worked up over nothing. I don't need to spell correctly here there is no lawyer or judge or grand jury to impress so the simple fact of you calling me on my spelling is trivial .the mak-90 issue look it up on the net almost two or three stamped to one milled (homework)hello. next point is that it is a known fact that the russians would have kept the milled recievers had it not been for cost and lack of resources because of the strength and durability of the milled recievers over the stamped also the fact that they had to equip an army as cheaply as they could in mass production being almost broke. do your (homework) before you jump out there and go on an issue you don't have a clue about. sorry if I twinged a nerve ..............;f

[Michigun]

Originally posted by one good cop
do your (homework) before you jump out there and go on an issue you don't have a clue about.

I've personally seen 2 cracked milled AK receivers… never seen a cracked stamped receiver.

I know I wouldn’t be able to put enough rounds through (& I shoot a lot) either a stamped or milled AK to see which one wears out faster… most augments come down to the weight issue… stamped wins that one.

By the way, the steel thickness on my stamped MAK-90 is thicker then the standard stamped AK has.

I’ve done my homework through several different resources… sounds like you’ve only read a few…

Wish I had more time to REALLY get down to it with ya… I’m thinking it would be a waste of time however. You sound a little bias…

This is kind of ridiculous however, seeing how all the types of AK receivers are darn tuff… not to mention we’re talking about semi-auto AK’s here & not the fully-auto versions.

Here's more GT reading on the S -vs- M AK:

http://glocktalk.com/search.php?s=&action=showresults&searchid=1594089&sortby=lastpost&sortorder=descending

[OUSooner]

Can't we all just get along? ^1

[Michigun]

Originally posted by OUSooner
Can't we all just get along? ^1

It doesn’t look that way... therefore I’ll go ahead & back out of this one now.

If I don’t get out now we’ll probably end up getting into what he does for a living & what I do for a living… could get ugly, but probably just boring! ;)

[one good cop]

I'll give you the weight aspect of the discusion stamped is lighter...but like you said originally it boils down to preference on milled or stamped ..I personally have never seen a cracked milled ever in the 20 years of messing with ak's . I do have 2 stamped polish under folders so I don't hate stamped at all and neither one of us will ever wear one (ak-47) out possibly a barell but doughtfull a reciever. the stamped versus milled debate has been going on for a long time. there is lots of interesting material on guns network forums on this subject milled versus stamped......yes we can all get along...;f

[DonEKing]

One vote for the MAK 90.

Changing to a pistol grip configuration isn't all that expensive. Just a pain. If you just stick to the simplest and most inexpensive parts.

1. Buttstock
2. Handguards (Upper & Lower)
3. Pistol Grip
4. Magazine Follower
5. Magazine Floorplate (FP's)

Save money and keep the Fire Control Group (FCG). The MAK 90 has a great FCG anyway. Easier to change out the Followers & FP'S. You can pick up a paired 10 pack of FP's and Followers for around $10.00.

[Leigh]

Milled vs stamped?
It has been a complete non-issue with me...
I've owned a Norinco preban underfolder, Mitchell Arms model something or other (RPK type heavy barrel/bipod) and currently SAR-1. ALL 3 perfomed as they should with just over 6000 rounds thru them (combined)....my only regret is not keeping the 2 prebans!

[Glockdude1]

I own both style Mak-90's, 1 stamped, 1 milled. Both have had over a thousand rds thru them each, with no problems at all. Get a Mak-90, you wont regret it. Even if it used, you better buy before I do!!!

;N

[IMAS]

Originally posted by one good cop
I'll give you the weight aspect of the discusion stamped is lighter...but like you said originally it boils down to preference on milled or stamped ..I personally have never seen a cracked milled ever in the 20 years of messing with ak's . I do have 2 stamped polish under folders so I don't hate stamped at all and neither one of us will ever wear one (ak-47) out possibly a barell but doughtfull a reciever. the stamped versus milled debate has been going on for a long time. there is lots of interesting material on guns network forums on this subject milled versus stamped......yes we can all get along...;f


milled vs. stamped

stamped vs. milled

There is only one way to settle this....

A duel.....MAK-90's at dawn....stamped vs. milled...;R

[Glockdude1]

Originally posted by IMAS
milled vs. stamped

stamped vs. milled

There is only one way to settle this....

A duel.....MAK-90's at dawn....stamped vs. milled...;R

I will be ther with my GAT trigger on my stamped ready to go!!!!!

;N

[one good cop]

I like stamped also I'm not prejudice equal ak lover

[Steve Moses]

I apologize for taking this slightly off-topic, but there seems to be a few MAK-90 authorities here....

Where do I find a conventional buttstock that will fit the MAK-90's radiused receiver? I am aware of Ironwood, but it would be great if I could find a USA made buttstock that did not require much fitting and finishing.

[Michigun]

Originally posted by Steve Moses
Where do I find a conventional buttstock that will fit the MAK-90's radiused receiver? I am aware of Ironwood, but it would be great if I could find a USA made buttstock that did not require much fitting and finishing.

I'm not a 'wood guy' myself Steve Moses so I won't be of much help... I went with the US made synthetic K-Var stock set myself & did have to fit it to my stamped MAK-90.

[Glockdude1]

Originally posted by Steve Moses
Where do I find a conventional buttstock that will fit the MAK-90's radiused receiver? I am aware of Ironwood, but it would be great if I could find a USA made buttstock that did not require much fitting and finishing.


http://www.ironwooddesigns.com/ IS U.S.A MADE PARTS!!! I know first hand. See Pic.

;N

[JayAK]

what no polytech????? :(

[AC37]

MAK-90, because the price is so close to that of an SAR-1 or a Maadi, there are plenty of aftermarket parts available for them (Fiberforce Dragunov-style stockset for example) because there are so many of them out there, and as others have mentioned they're just a little bit more solid than the SAR-1s or Maadis (thicker steel, etc.). :)

[Glockdude1]

Originally posted by JayAK
what no polytech????? :(

Ask and Ye shall receive........ http://www.polytechparts.com/

;N

[SLTeam2]

I have a Egyptian Maadi and have been happy with i for years. no problems what so ever. Good luck.