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CanyonMan
05-19-2004, 14:42
Sorry fellas, this ain't a "new kinda hog to hunt"! It's a dog! :)

We have been thinking about getting a "RHODESIAN RIDGEBACK."

I have put a lot of research into this dog, and have some contacts to get a pup, both in Oklahoma, and here in Texas. $500.00 - $1200 seems to be the going rate.

BUT... I need some 'more fedback', and I have some questions for anyone out there who has owned one, or knows someone who does..."And hunts with it."


This dog has it's origin in S. Africa, gets up to around 90-100 #'s
It was breed to hunt Lions.. as in 'African lions'. So i am very interested in this dog for trailing cougars here on the ranch. "Just to run them." Just for 'show, and photography'.

The questions....
How good a hunting dog are they?
How is their temperment?
Have they had any medical problems with the dog? (i know what problems they 'can have', just want to see if anyone has had them).


So, if any of you guys have one, or have had, etc. i would like to hear 'all' you can tell me 'about your experiences' with this breed.


Thanks!


CanyonMan


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KK20
05-19-2004, 15:15
when i was a toddler my dad had a rhodesian ridge back *****(female )called daisy. she was pure bred but not registered with the kennel union of south africa (KUSA).
she baby sat me all the time , if i strayed to far in the garden she herded me back close home.

i used jump on her, roll over her, make her fetch a thousand times and she still never got tired of me. she was wonderful.

when it came to protecting her territory she was unbelievable from that playful puppy attitude with me to snarling, frothing , teeth exposed animal that stood her ground was something to see. that unique ridge on the back could really stand proud when there was a threat. when the threat was no longer she will come back to me a slobber me across the face (to sort of reassure me).

she had a beautiful soft coat and very pronounced and well shaped ridge.

as i grew older and started riding on the farm she used follow me on my outrides keeping up with me on my thoroughbred hack. she was amazing in the bush. the stalking and tracking ability must no doubt be inherent in them as we did not train her. she was just the house pet.

they are well mannered, very hardy animals and not prone to illnesses or other conditions such as hip dysplasia etc.

i still have contact with the kennel union of south africa so if you need any more information i can get it for you.

CanyonMan
05-19-2004, 18:13
KK20,

I appreciate your help... let me see for a while how many responces i get from this post, and i may have you contact the kennel union in S. Africa, or better yet give me the address/phone #, so i can call them and ask about the credintials of some american breeders. I have friends in S. Africa as well, so that is always a possiblity for me too.

I have very, very, good breeder contacts here in the states, as i said, in Okla. and Tex. but just needed some more feedback from those like yourself that are truly familiar with the dog, and perhaps have hunted them.

I was told by several people that they were very good with children, and it seems you too confirmed that as well.

Thank you very much... let's let the post run it's course for a week or so, see what kind of feedback i get, and i may get back with you!

CanyonMan

Dogbite
05-19-2004, 19:41
Yeah--i have spent some time around them--i was working at someones house that had a pair--male and female.I can tell you they are one of the best guard dogs you can get--and ive owned 2 rotts.They are very good looking dogs,and these two were very obedient to the owner.I would own one,they were very impressive animals.

KK20
05-20-2004, 02:40
http://www.dogworld.co.za/Breeders/breeders_hounds/hounds.htm#Ridgeback

i made contact with a breeder and judge in kloof near durban. so anything you may need , i will try and help.

best
kuben

CanyonMan
05-20-2004, 09:00
KK20,

I sent you an email.... I look forward to hearing from you.

Thanks.

CanyonMan

duncan
05-22-2004, 08:35
My wife and I have loved the breed for years even though we have not been able to adopt or buy one.

To the best of my knowledge, Americans have not been hunting the Ridgeback despite it's background.

They are faithful dogs but quite stubborn to train.

Guess you could train one to hunt or track but never heard of it.

http://rrcus.org/

They are quite sturdy dog but do have one or two genetic matters having to do with a vein down their backs.

http://www.digitaldog.com/rhodesianridgeback.html

They need a good amount of exercise but are also couch potato's inside.

CanyonMan
05-22-2004, 10:17
Duncan,

Hey guy,thanks for the links and help. Your pretty much right about the hunting part, 'although' we do have contact with a rancher that does hunt them, and our vet out here said he thinks he can research this a bit more through "his" contacts in the business, and find even more that are at present, "hunting." Remember, their origin in breeding was to be a "lion hunter." Another name for the breed.
We just have to do our home work, and find the 'right breeder.'

Like you said about the 'couch potato thing,' 'your right' from what we are finding out so far, and the "generic problems," according to the breeders we have spoke to, and our rancher/vet, is a sinus problem that formulates down the spine from the 'ridge' on the back,(go figure that out??), and that was 'confirmed' as i read one of the links 'you' sent me.. thanks!

He said in all his dealings with the dogs, it is 'very rare,' and also the other was hip displasa (sp)?... But there to, when we get and animal we always get documents from the forth to fith generation back, so this pretty much will "expose" if one needs to have concern or not for these problems in the present generation..

Yeah, traning seems to be kinda hard from what we have been told, and 'as you said as well'. But we are used to that with animals, horses etc. so surely it can't be that bad! (i hope)! :)

Just simply put, i fell in love with this breed of dog when i first saw it. totally cool looking dog. period!

KK20 on this post is from Africa, and is helping me as well. So, i hope to find "someone," who is in fact hunting, or knows someone who is hunting these dogs. We found out that in the 'eastern states, Tenn: Ga, and a few others, they are hunting them from deer to boar.

I only want a great dog out of this, for the family, and that will hunt mountain lion for us on the ranch as well. Our last dog died about 9 mos. ago, so i am ready to get goin on another now. Don't know about you guys, but it is hard for me to 'run right out' and get another dog right after one we've had 16 + years dies.

Well, Duncan.. thanks again for the links and help, and good info. man.. i apreciate it all !

Stay safe!

CanyonMan

RenegadeGlocker
05-22-2004, 11:13
Originally posted by CanyonMan
The questions....
How good a hunting dog are they?
How is their temperment?
Have they had any medical problems with the dog? (i know what problems they 'can have', just want to see if anyone has had them).


So, if any of you guys have one, or have had, etc. i would like to hear 'all' you can tell me 'about your experiences' with this breed.


Had a female that was around 85 lbs, have a male that is around 125 lbs. Temperment is excellent, very good reliable dogs, IMO. They love to hunt, but I do not know if they are good at it, but they seem to bring me back stuff - mice, rabbits, etc. No medical problems.

I think it would be a good pet, but I am not sure a single dog is good for hunting cougars. I think they hunted in packs over in Africa.

MBR
05-22-2004, 15:21
Here ya go, this is a good site to find pups.....

http://www.puppyfind.com/?act=search&forsale=1&subject=Rhodesian+Ridgeback

CanyonMan
05-22-2004, 19:21
RenegadeGlocker,

Thanks for the info. Even if all i end up with out of this is a great family dog... I really want one of these RR.

Can always hunt the cats with the Blue Ticks. One of my brothers down by the mexico border guides cougar hunts on his ranch. The blue ticks work fine. I just got all caught up in this particular breed, (the RR).


MBR,

Thanks for the link man.. pretty good!


CanyonMan

fudiem
05-24-2004, 15:18
I had a male but never tried hunting him. He did stay in the house with us. By far the best guard/protection dog I've had anything to do with. For some reason he knew who to be weary of and who was friend at first site. Damn good dog. You have to establish yourself as leader of the pack from day one or he will test you later. Other than that he was easy to train.

P.S. Stay away from breeders in Arlington, TX. Any questions about that you can PM me.

CanyonMan
05-25-2004, 09:17
fudiem,

Thanks for the advice my friend, i appreciate it.
Looks like the breedres are narrowed down to Oklahoma, and N. central Texas.

preciate it!


CanyonMan

vart
06-05-2004, 22:18
My mom raises them, and is thinking about having another litter.
They are great dogs! Ironically, her breeding female is named Daisy:cool: .
I know of a few people back home in Idaho that use them to tree cougars. They are very fast, and have a good nose. The only downfall to them is their lack of hardiness in cold weather, which is why I don't have one (I have a black lab). But in Texas, that wouldn't be a problem.
And yes, they are couch potatos. Here are my mom's two females in their favorite place; on the couch down at the lake cabin:

<img src="http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-4/14007/copy-500-375-20024210216-3-dumbdogs.jpg.JPG" width=500 height=375>

CanyonMan
06-05-2004, 22:47
vart,

Thanks for the post there Hoss.
Also, for conferming to me that folks are still using this breed to tree the big cats. I keep hearing more and more on this.

I would like to ask... Just to get the "sense of things" here.
#1... are your moms dogs AKC?
#2.. What does she sell the pups for?
#3.. What would you say is the average weight of the adult dogs, if you have kept up with the folks you have sold them to, if not i understand.

Obviously 'i cannot' come there to get a pup. My purpose in asking, is to see how consistent the prices, and weight, are running on these dogs. I came upon a 150 pound male the other day, he was a real beauty!

preciate it Man!

CanyonMan
P.S......... Those are great looking dogs in your pic. Thanks!

vart
06-05-2004, 23:05
Yes, her pups are AKC registered, and she sold them for $700. I have no idea of the weight, but her two dogs are around 80-90 lbs. They are definately pampered and out of shape indoor dogs. She is pretty picky when she selects a stud, and likes to go meet the dog and get to know it's personaltiy traits before she agrees to breed.
She is more into the companionship aspect of the breed, rather than hunting ability and size.
I've gone with her to see some stud dogs, and there are some very impressive Rhodesians out there in the 100-120 lb. size that would make great cougar-getters;) .
I've never seen a "bad" Rhodesian, personality-wise. Some are a little more aggressive than others, but all are pretty good with kids. Daisy had a problem with jumping up on my kids when she played with them, but she basicly didn't realize how big she had gotten and wasn't aggressive, just clumsy ;) .
My mom told me that if I wanted a Rhodesian for dirt cheap or free (if she didn't have a litter), was to find some breeders who were having litters. When a Rhodesian is born without a ridge, it is supposed to be killed, so as to keep the breed pure. But, my mom says some breeders (like her)will simply make sure the dog goes to a good home and is fixed so it can't be bred.
I was more interested in having a good dog than having something to show, so I thought that might be a good alternative to paying $700+ for a dog.

CanyonMan
06-05-2004, 23:44
Vart,

Thanks for the info:
I just sent a reply, but it dissapeared somewhere?
If it turns up twice... Sorry!

Around this part of the country, the good bloodline pups are goin for ..$500.00 to $1200.00.

I continue to keep my eyes open for just the right pup!

I appreciate all you help!


CanyonMan

AK_Stick
06-09-2004, 18:07
I personaly dont like the breed.

They can be quite nice, and great hunters, a friend of mine has two that he hunts with up here in AK. Nice dogs, but I had a run in with one that realy ruined the breed for me. They would be wonderful guard dogs, the one I had attack me put the fear of god in me.


Like they said, not a real great cold weather dog, but most seem to be a good family dog, friendly and protective

duncan
06-09-2004, 20:19
They are beautiful dogs.

CanyonMan
06-09-2004, 21:55
Duncan said....
"They are beautiful dogs."


Yes sir they sure are man... I have just flat fell in love with these dogs, and we do hope to get a male towards fall.


AK_Stick,

Hey, You had a bumb experience Hoss! If it had been a rat terrier, you would hate rat terriers! Don't blame ya! :)


CanyonMan

sy2k
06-10-2004, 13:00
Just thought I'd chime in. Rhodesians make the greatest pets. They are very intelligent, good around kids, great hunters and excellent watch dogs. Somewhat aloof, which is to say they aren't quite like a lab always looking to you with that "how can I please you now???" type expression. I find them to be very trainable, despite what some would have you believe. As athletic as they are, and my girlfriend's female can run down rabbits, they are very content to lounge around the house. And on your sofa and bed. Another good point is they just don't shed - I never find dog hair anywhere.

They aren't the best breed for cold weather areas. I imagine they'd make a great hunting dog - once in the bush, this is where the Rhodesian's true instincts emerge.

Quick story. One night we heard someone climb over the fence into the backyard. Actually, the dog heard it first and just went nuts. I grabbed my Glock, of course, but quickly let the dog out the door. She took off after this guy like a bat out of hell. He barely made it back over the fence.

Better than having to shoot him, don't you think?

vart
06-10-2004, 20:30
Originally posted by sy2k
Quick story. One night we heard someone climb over the fence into the backyard. Actually, the dog heard it first and just went nuts. I grabbed my Glock, of course, but quickly let the dog out the door. She took off after this guy like a bat out of hell. He barely made it back over the fence.

Better than having to shoot him, don't you think?
I believe that a large dog is more comforting and effective to have next to my bed than a firearm. They will hear an intruder way before me, and will go and neutralize the threat while I'm still waking up and getting my pistol and flashlight.
Of course, having both will ruin any burglar's day ;)

Wulfenite
06-10-2004, 21:47
Friends have had two. Both were great with their child. They dont like the cold. They HATE!!!!! cats. When the got their first pup the thought if they were raised together they'd learn to get along. NOT! About the time the Ridgeback got 1/2 grown into its feet the cat had to find another home.

sdsnet
02-26-2009, 17:29
My uncle had one and it really was a great dog. Very sweet with kids but also very protective of its owners and territory.

CanyonMan
02-26-2009, 23:14
WOW !!!

This thread popped up from way back in 2004 looks like....

Well, I may as well, end it. We did not get the RR, but did get the best chocolate lab in the world. (in our opinion at least). :supergrin:

Got him at 6 weeks old, he is now 4 years old... man this thread really surfaced from someone didn't it ! I saw it on here and thought, whoa.. I about forgot I had even wrote it, or looked for a RR waaaay back then. Anyway, thanks to all for your input, but we just could not have gotten a better dog. This boy does everything but cook my breakfast... He is just down right fantastic...

A pic or two....

Thanks again guys

CanyonMan

1canvas
02-27-2009, 22:45
i had one for 10 years. my dog was for protection and attack though, no hunting. it was a great dog with an even temperment but i had to let him know whow's boss every now and then. he was easy to train in obedience and in no way a mean dog, but could turn on when needed [trained to] . a very protective dog and had a high tolerance for kids.
a great dog and i would own again.

CanyonMan
02-28-2009, 08:09
Guys, I appreciate everything, and all the info. But just to let you know. Someone ressurected this thread from 4 years ago, and I already got a Lab, (see page 1 ). You are more than welcome to talk it up on the RR subject, but I am personally out of the market, just to extend the courtesy to you to let you know.......

Thanks....


CanyonMan