Used my G31 to end a vehicle pursuit.

[CATATOMIC]

I used my G31 to end a vehicle pursuit a couple of weeks ago. I credit the gun and the accuracy of the .357 Sig ammo. The vehicle we were chasing was stolen. I was last in line of the four units involved. The guy ran through a yard doing a 180 coming back toward me. I stopped, jumped out as the vehicle went by. I fired two shots at the left rear tire at a distance of about twenty-five yards. I hit the tire causing the pursuit to end. As I said before I credit the G31 and the very accurate .357 Sig ammo.

[Uncle Don]

I'm just trying to get this straigt in my head - your were last and the car you were chasing did a 180 and came back toward you. When you fired, where were the other three units? Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you weren't right, I'm surmising that when you say "went by", you mean that you were perpindicular to the car and the other units were then to your right. If so, that's a good shot as you did it at it's greatest movement to you. Glad everyone came out fine and that you got him.

[CATATOMIC]

The other three units were trying to get turned around. I was shooting in the opposite direction from the other officers. When I shot my back was to the officers. I wouldn't have shot toward my fellow officers. When I saw the guy doing a 180 I stopped and waited for him to come by me. Also, we were out in the county and there were no homes in the direction I shot, just the one where he turned around and no one lives in that house.

[Nelybarg]

your department allows you to use deadly force in a situation that does not merit it? where was the immenient threat of life? maybe i'm missing something here.

[jv56]

Good deal! 357 sig strikes on target.

[Gambino]

I work with catatomic and this incident was captured on the eagle eye camrea system. I watched the tape. He had a clear shot not endangering any of the other officers.
We are a small department and do not have the stop sticks. Our Sheriff has reviewed the tape and was proud of the stop. No one got hurt and the thug is in jail.
As far as the deadly force -- this happened on a Sunday Morning about 1030 hours. I could play Monday morning Quaterback and talk about several ways that this could have come out. The pursuit could have been called off and this guy that was hopped up on meth continue on and hit some family on the way to church. That's my idea of the immenient threat of life. But that's just me.

Good Job Catatomic

[ronin_asano]

sounds like a nice shot.

good job.

[jv56]

What brand and gr. ammo does your dept carry? What kind of round was it?

[live-free-r-die]

Interesting, I had always heard that handgun ammo will not puncture a tire, especially while spinning. Did you hit the rim? Or was it the velocity of the .357 sig.

I have shot at stationary tires before, (on rims with air in them), I got some nasty ricochets with 9mm and .45ACP.

P.S. Nice Job! It is nice to see a cop get credit for having the balls to end a chase, and not get ripped for it. I hate seeing these low speed chases, ram the ******er off the road and send him the repair bill for the squad! Oops! forgot to do yoga today, I am grumppy (SP?)

[CATATOMIC]

I think Gambino put it well. The threat was this idiot, who was high on meth and driving a stolen vehicle, hitting a family on their way to church. My sheriff commended me for stopping this crazy a** before he killed someone. Not to mention he nearly hit me as he came by. Maybe we don't do things like some departments do but we stopped this guy and no one got hurt, and he's in jail. As far as ammo, I carry the Winchester 125 grain Ranger "T" Series. There wasn't anything left of the tire. After I made the shot he continued to travel for one mile. When he stopped all that was left was the rim.

[ronin_asano]

i don't suppose you could host that video somewhere?

it would be cool to see the shot.

[CATATOMIC]

The shots took place outside the view of the camera. You see the suspect vehicle spinning through a yard and coming straight toward me. My vehicle stops and the bad guy goes by and that's when I shot. According to the clock on my camera I had only three seconds to make the decision to shoot and take the shot. It seemed like it took forever when it was happening.

[engineer151515]

You credit the Glock and I credit your great shooting.

Good shot!

[ronin_asano]

Originally posted by CATATOMIC
The shots took place outside the view of the camera. You see the suspect vehicle spinning through a yard and coming straight toward me. My vehicle stops and the bad guy goes by and that's when I shot. According to the clock on my camera I had only three seconds to make the decision to shoot and take the shot. It seemed like it took forever when it was happening.

yeah, time does seem to slow down when stuff like that happens.

is your gun completely stock? since you are LEO, i suspect it is, with the possible exception of night sights.

[CATATOMIC]

My G31 is personally owned and has Trijicon night sights, a stainless guide rod and ISMI spring.

[CATATOMIC]

Originally posted by engineer151515
You credit the Glock and I credit your great shooting.

Good shot!
Thanks !!!! ;c

[rsilvers]

Good job, you might have saved them from hitting someone with their reckless driving. If they can guide a 3000lb car around there is nothing wrong with directing a bullet. It is no more deadly force than ramming them with a car.

[Lobo]

I have worked with CATATOMIC for the past 2 years and I trust him with my life as do others in our department. I was not there when this went down, but I trust his judgment in what he did. From what I have seen from the tape, he had about 3 seconds to stop the patrol unit, get out of the car, draw his weapon and fire a shot. This is all from a Safariland Level III holster. Not to mention the quick decision he had to make to take the shot. It was the right one. For all the supporters of him and what he did, cheers!;c To the armchair quarterbacks and naysayers, you weren't there and have no idea of what you would have done until faced with the same situatuion.

[Gambino]

Originally posted by Lobo
I have worked with CATATOMIC for the past 2 years and I trust him with my life as do others in our department. I was not there when this went down, but I trust his judgment in what he did. From what I have seen from the tape, he had about 3 seconds to stop the patrol unit, get out of the car, draw his weapon and fire a shot. This is all from a Safariland Level III holster. Not to mention the quick decision he had to make to take the shot. It was the right one. For all the supporters of him and what he did, cheers!;c To the armchair quarterbacks and naysayers, you weren't there and have no idea of what you would have done until faced with the same situatuion.

Yeah, what you said Lobo.

[fatlander]

handgun ammo will not puncture a tire, especially while spinning

And i heard that amulets can protect you from AIDS, thats why i pick 10 most desease ridden ho's and have unprotected sex with them, and thats ok as long as i have me lucky charms with me!

what kind of bs is that?

[unless it was a joke, in that case, its on me]

[G33]

State laws and department regulations vary widely.
Bear that in mind.
Also, please keep the discussion civil.
Thanks.

[LewisQ]

To the armchair quarterbacks and naysayers, you weren't there and have no idea of what you would have done until faced with the same situatuion.

Very wise words!

[Screaming .357G]

Sounds like a job well done!

[TenMil]

I would like to state for the record that I am always the FIRST one to criticize heavy handed tactics of officers (See- Officers Use Taser on Handcuffed 9 Year Old Girl)- but in this case, the officer did what I believe all officers should be allowed to do, just as they were when my grandpa was an officer.

STOP A FLEEING CRIMINAL.

Make it known to the criminal element that when the law comes, you either stand for justice or prepare to stand before your maker.

A vehicle is a deadly weapon, and anyone who doesn't think so is welcome to stand in front of mine as I smoke the tires and rocket toward you... He shot some tiresm, and banked a bad guy.
He gets an A+.
Sounds to me like he was further justified to shoot a few through the windshield and into the ******* who was going to run him down.

[Brasso]

Just how exactly does this not seem like a case of deadly force? Anytime a car is driving recklessly it's deadly force. If you can explain how a 2ton piece of steel on 4 wheels and out of control isn't deadly, please tell?

[rsilvers]

2 tons at 70mph is 274,690,954 fpe. This is 22,000 times more powerful than a .50 BMG or 100,000 times more than some 9mms.

[CATATOMIC]

I would like to say thanks to everyone who supports what I did. I only had three seconds to make a decision of whether or not to shoot. Some may say I was wrong but all I could think about was a family being hit headon and kill by this idiot and the roads were full of people going to church. Three seconds isn't a lot of time to make a decision that could affect you and others the rest of your life. I did what I thought I needed to do at that particular time. I feel like it was the right decision because it ended with no one hurt. Again, thanks to everyone who supports me.

[LewisQ]

You did your job and did well. Ignore the armchair quarterbacks and thanks for your work and the report on the 357 SIG...

[Gambino]

Rock on Catatomic.

Like I have already said, the video speaks for you! Nothing can be added nor taken away from it. You did what I, and other officers here and else where, have done, and will most probably have to do again. Every deputy here has looked at the video and they concurr GOOD JOB. WELL DONE. We looked at the video independently and thus deduced our own untainted conclusion.

[leadbutt]

WELL DONE!!!!!!


AH! the benifits of working in a county,If I tried that here it would have been my badge and job for sure

[Glock Kommando]

Congrats on job well done! I have many friends in local Departments and they would be in such deep doo doo for doing the same.

Stay Safe Guys!