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T. Harless
06-06-2004, 20:33
I posted to a similar reply in the thread about red dot optics but I have to say how cool my new EOTech sight is in a new thread. Those who have one know, the rest of you get one. On a 16" BM, ditched the carry handle (with the IBZ worked just great BTW) added the BMAS flip up rear sight, dialed that in at 50, installed the EOTech and my own vision is all that keeps them from the same hole. Dialed in the EOTech dot to sit right on top of the iron front sight. Flat awesome. The attached photo is at 50 yrds on day two with the sight. May be nothing to you guys but I'm only a couple months into an AR and I'm thrilled.

Todd

RMTactical
06-06-2004, 20:41
Yeah, they are awesome, I will get one someday for my AR.

apxpred
06-06-2004, 21:56
Ya buddie, EOTech's definatly rock !
Wich one did you get ? I got the 552 E a while ago & they are definatly the POO !

Nice shooting ;)

glockjunkie
06-06-2004, 22:04
Totally agree. Took a while for me to decide what sight to get for my M4, but I know that I chose the right one. Eotech 552.A65.

python1340
06-06-2004, 22:08
Hey, I know the feeling. ;)

http://www.python1340.com/rram4.jpg

T. Harless
06-07-2004, 06:20
Apxpred, I got the 511 A65. I was all geared up for the AA battery one but all the shop had was the NV compatible one and it was $100 more. This one is considerably smaller. I haven't looked, around but the guy assured me that "N" batteries are easy to come by.

What distance do you folks have your's zeroed?

Unrelated, but I'd be interested in any thoughts. At at the same time, I put rails top and bottom on my handguards and just for grins I slid my Glock tactical light on the bottom. Then I was thinking, why not? It would be awkward to use it as intermittent but as a constant white light, why not and way cheaper than real wepon mounted lights. Just a thought

Thanks. Todd

c4igrant
06-07-2004, 07:11
Since you a fan of the EOTech, I thought I would show you what is about to come out. The LaRue Tactical EOTech mount! It allows you to co-witness, gives you a QD capability (with 100% reapeat zero) and has a mount on the back for either attaching a PVS-14 or the new EOTech 3.75 magnification system due out in December. I am accept pre-orders for them now. Price is $120 delivered...

C4
www.gandrtactical.com

http://www.gandrtactical.com/images/archive/LaRue%20Tactical%20EOTech%20mount.jpg

http://www.gandrtactical.com/images/archive/LaRue%20Tactical%20EOTech%20mount2.jpg

http://www.gandrtactical.com/images/archive/LaRue%20Tactical%20EOTech%20mount1.jpg

http://www.gandrtactical.com/images/archive/LaRue%20EOTech%20mount%20and%20PVS-14.JPG

T. Harless
06-07-2004, 07:33
Grant,

That looks very cool but two months ago you said I'd have an EOTech from you "end of the week." I had to give somebody else my $300 and I'll pass on the pre-order.

Todd

c4igrant
06-07-2004, 07:43
The EOTech situation is so bad that I had to sell my VERY OWN EOTech to a guy deploying. Your not the only one that hasn't gotten one from me! The LaRue Tactical mounts are actually built and on their way to me so they are available. ;f

C4

T. Harless
06-07-2004, 08:49
Sorry Grant that did come across as kind of a bad attitude. Mine is a new big boy toy. Plain and simple and I'd never suggest I get one over someone going into harms way. Todd

c4igrant
06-07-2004, 09:42
No offense taken. I wish that I could have helped you..

C4

apxpred
06-07-2004, 09:55
T. Harless,
I've got my zero set at 100 yds.

Ya I had gotten mine just as the demand was going up, I had to wait an extra 2 or 3 weeks I think, Grant had it to me as fast as he could, he's one of the good guys.

I can sympathize whole heartedly w/ trying so hard to feed the addiction of " BRD " & comming up empty. For me it's usually the $$$$. You found a way to feed your disease, Ha, LOL ! we are just as bad as heroine addicts.

When making a purchase I always try to buy from :

Grandtactical
RB Precision
Adco

T. Harless
06-07-2004, 10:14
Yep, gettin' the jones bad. I promised myself I wouldn't buy another gun this year then when the shakes started getting bad I realized I'd left a loophole in that I never said (to myself) that I couldn't accessorize. Still I've failed. Took my change can to the bank, figuring it was really like free money anyway, bought a Beretta Neos with that and before that bought another G23 because it was like new and got a great deal because the guy needed the cash, figuring I'd sell it and make money. It's still unfired(by me) in the safe. It's a powerful addiction. No more this year. I mean it this time. Really.....

Todd

T. Harless
06-07-2004, 10:48
Grant,

Tell us more about the EOTech 3.75 magnification system. Something that will work with my EOTech?

Thanks.

Todd

c4igrant
06-07-2004, 11:13
Originally posted by T. Harless
Grant,

Tell us more about the EOTech 3.75 magnification system. Something that will work with my EOTech?

Thanks.

Todd

It is a magnification device that will sit behind the EOTech (much like the PVS-14 does in the above pic). It will have a QD mount and give the shooter all the capabilities of an ACOG without the expense! EOTech is sending me one before they release them for a final look over so I hope to have one soon! I don't know what the price will and they should come out in December...

C4

T. Harless
06-07-2004, 16:12
Sounds great! keep us posted eh?

duncan
10-06-2004, 23:41
While I'd like a military grade EOtech, my BM generally sees the range and a league or two.

So I'll snag the 502.

Can I mount it directly on my A3 flattop and co-witness on my irons? Have an ARMS 40 back up flip up iron rear too.

Jeff S.
10-07-2004, 00:45
Originally posted by c4igrant
It is a magnification device that will sit behind the EOTech (much like the PVS-14 does in the above pic). It will have a QD mount and give the shooter all the capabilities of an ACOG without the expense! EOTech is sending me one before they release them for a final look over so I hope to have one soon! I don't know what the price will and they should come out in December...

C4

Can you post a link directly to the preorders? I looked and couldn't find any. Thanks. I'm really tight with money right now, but I must remember Christmas is in December. ;f

Anyways, I have a 512 and love it. I try to take as many people as I can shooting. Every time somebody takes aim and looks through the EOtech they exclaim, "Holy crap!" It's a great optic.

Edit: Ha! I must have missed the "big rush." When did the demand skyrocket? I got my Rev. F 512 mid-September with no problems.

jpatmac
10-07-2004, 10:45
Originally posted by duncan
While I'd like a military grade EOtech, my BM generally sees the range and a league or two.

So I'll snag the 502.

Which model made by EOtech do most people use? I see different model numbers and have no real idea what difference there is between them.

Martindog
10-07-2004, 11:23
Originally posted by jpatmac
Which model made by EOtech do most people use? I see different model numbers and have no real idea what difference there is between them.

EOTech Website (http://www.eotech-inc.com)

51X series are tactical, i.e., no night vision capability.

55X series are military models, i.e., they have NV capability.

Within each series, there are two models. XX1 models use the N batteries, they are shorter in length and have shorter battery life. XX2 models use AA batteries. These models have the longer footprint. AA's are more commonly avaiable and have longer life, especially with lithiums. IIRC EOTech specs their 512/552 at around 1,100 hours at a mid-intensity setting.

Lastly, two reticules are offered: just a 1 MOA dot (not very popular) or a 1 MOA dot surrounded by a 65 MOA outer ring with tick marks at the 12, 3, 6, and 9 o'clock positions. This is the much more popular model. The 65 MOA models have a .65 in their model numbers.

The Rev F is the most current rev of the EOTech series. EOTech has made evolutionary improvements throughout the products life-cycle and designated them by Rev letter, e.g., Rev D, Rev E, Rev F. Rev F models incorporate better buttons, better circuitry featuring longer battery life, etc. You probably can pick up earlier generations, just be aware they won't have the most up to date features incorporated.

jpatmac
10-07-2004, 11:53
Originally posted by Martindog
51X series are tactical, i.e., no night vision capability.

55X series are military models, i.e., they have NV capability.


Thx, Martindog.

The problem with answering a newbie's question, I'm sure you realize, is that they'll come back with another question. ;)

I'm afraid I follow that pattern. :(

I don't understand what you mean by night vision capability. I assume that you DON'T mean that they have some sort of NV ability of their own without extra add-on scopes or optics. Do you mean that there is something different about the reticle that allows it to be used with external NV equipment?

Thanks again. ;f

gsbell
10-07-2004, 11:58
Originally posted by jpatmac
.... Do you mean that there is something different about the reticle that allows it to be used with external NV equipment?


Bingo

jpatmac
10-07-2004, 12:18
Perfect.

Thanks for your answers, guys. It was very helpful. ;f

Yojimbo
10-07-2004, 13:25
Well, welcome to the EOThing Club!;f

I'm currently running a 552 Rev F and I love it. I had a 552 Rev E before it was great too! Had an Aimpoint prior to that but never looked back after switching to the EOTech!

I prefer the IBZ or 50 yard zero for non-magnified red dot sights.

http://www.hunt101.com/img/117722-big.JPG

Nigel_C
10-07-2004, 15:49
Yojimbo ,Bro... do those "High speed Guys" know you are posting pics of them on the internet without any regard for OPSEC / PERSEC.. If this is just some internet "snapshot" then disregard, if you know these folks... and they are HSLD.. Block their faces please.

Respectfully..;c

Ps , I prefer Aimpoint.. But it's a chevy / ford thing..
I've never seen a broke Aimpoint or Trijicon.. Seen a few Eotechs in the dirt or in puddles DOA

Peace !

Yojimbo
10-07-2004, 18:16
Originally posted by Nigel_C
Yojimbo ,Bro... do those "High speed Guys" know you are posting pics of them on the internet without any regard for OPSEC / PERSEC.. If this is just some internet "snapshot" then disregard, if you know these folks... and they are HSLD.. Block their faces please.

Respectfully..;c

Ps , I prefer Aimpoint.. But it's a chevy / ford thing..
I've never seen a broke Aimpoint or Trijicon.. Seen a few Eotechs in the dirt or in puddles DOA

Peace !

AFAIK, that pic is okay for public viewing because they were posted publically on several other forums that I frequent. This is acutally a snapshot of real HSLD people doing what they do best. I also believe, but can't verify that that the guy who originally posted it is one of the guys pictured. Since you have brought up a good point on opsec/persec I will edit my post and remove this pic.

Cheers!:cool:

BTW, I've personally seen more broken Aimpoints than EOTechs but I believe both optics a extremely durable and combat worthy. I've also heard from quite a few people who are using EOTech's in combat and they have nothing but great things to say about them.

Bottom line is that you can't lose with either the Aimpoint or the EOTech. Try them both and get the one that works best for you...:cool:

MTMilitiaman
10-08-2004, 01:29
You guys may consider me an invader or spy, but I was wondering if you could supply more info on this bad boy? I plan on putting something of the sorts on a Romanian WASR-10 I recently acquired. I've upgraded it some--flash surpressor, folding stock, full cap mags, ect--but I know I still have some stuff left to do to it. When it is finished, I want to have a Surefire on a Krebs Custom rail forend and a red dot/reflex sight on a foreward mounted Ultimak sight rail. Until now, I had pretty much decided on the Aimpoint ML or the Trijicon Reflex with the 4.25 MOA dot. If you guys could list some pros and cons as to how the EOTech compares to that other two, that would be great. Thanks.

O and I promise I will someday own an AR too. I am looking that that Barrett M468 but right now, it's just too damn expensive to be a serious consideration--I have a Glock 20, and either a Glock 30 or HK USP Compact 45 to invest in as well--and several other firearms to feed. So many guns, so little money and time [sigh]...

Jeff S.
10-08-2004, 01:36
LOL, yeah MT, I know what you mean. Being a college student I relate.

Try to look through them. You can't go wrong with either the EOtech or the Aimpoint. Aimpoint has a big dot (4 moa), while the Eotech has a big ring and a little dot. I like the EOtech better. The ring can be used for close quarters, and the 1 moa dot is good for precision. Both are great. Me, I'd stay with either an EOtech or Aimpoint. I've looked through a Reflex, and it can't compare to the EOtech.

Check this thread out; it will help.

http://ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=18&t=164971

MTMilitiaman
10-08-2004, 01:54
College? Yeah, that'll do it to ya. I am in my fourth year at MSU Bozeman. It makes me shudder just thinking about how much I am going to owe when it is all said and done... [shudders]...see ;4 ;1

seandaly
10-08-2004, 12:39
I also recently got an EOTech 500 (uses N-type batteries), and I am quite happy with it. I mounted it on my SU-16 (wish it was an AR, but I live in KA). My previous experience is with conventional scopes, and I've never tried an Aimpoint, so I can't compare, but the EOTech is amazingly better than a conventional scope at close-to-medium range. I really like the fact that I can quickly sight with both eyes open, my eye doesn't have to shift focus, and relief and paralax are not an issue, so acquisition is lightning fast. The 1 MOA w/ 65 MOA ring reticle works just fine for me. Sighting it in was easy. If I had to reach out to more serious yardage though, I'd still switch to a Leupold scope and gain some magnification.

The N-type batteries are readily available, and I keep an extra set of batteries with me. Just bought some the other night at Wal-Mart, for something like $3.50 for a pair of batteries.

I highly recommend the EOTech!

gartchen
10-09-2004, 22:42
as for our poor college students!

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MTMilitiaman College? Yeah, that'll do it to ya. I am in my fourth year at MSU Bozeman. It makes me shudder just thinking about how much I am going to owe when it is all said and done... [shudders]...see
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You know the best way to get a Bozeman Grad off your front porch right?


"Pay for the Pizza"

I have a bunch of old MSU sports jokes to, but since you guys have kicking our Arsh in football...I'l have to hold on that for now!! lol

Go Griz!!

duncan
10-10-2004, 00:53
Originally posted by jpatmac
Which model made by EOtech do most people use? I see different model numbers and have no real idea what difference there is between them.

The EOTech 502 or the BUshnell Holosight should serve most civilians well.

Now if you are a serious rough my AR15 up kind of guy, or a SOF wanna-be and do a good amount of running and field exercises with your AR-15 - military, police, reserves, three gun competitions where you can knock your scope about, then the 51X series is good for you.

Just can't see spending another $100 plus for a metal hood and for more waterproofing. N batteries are just fine unless you spend 10 hours a week at the range with your EOtech on.

Bump in the night gets the Rem 870 with Surefire.

duncan
10-10-2004, 00:54
Originally posted by MTMilitiaman
College? Yeah, that'll do it to ya. I am in my fourth year at MSU Bozeman. It makes me shudder just thinking about how much I am going to owe when it is all said and done... [shudders]...see ;4 ;1

College is always worth it.

Most people making $500K plus a year - have at least one and usually two college degrees.

Can you image that gun safe or vault;)