g36 for ccw. seriously?

[randman]

I handled a g36 slim glock this weekend as was impressed. Suprised actually. I shoot a g37 now, and love it. is shooting that 36 just totureous? Or no fun at all at least. And I am dying to know if a g36 really works for every day ccw? After handling one, it sure seems like it might work. how would I carry it in dress clothes?

[jeremy54b]

I carried a G36 for about a year both IWB and OWB. It also worked well in a fanny pack style holster.

It is light, and thin..therefore lends itself well to being hidden under nothing more than a t-shirt.

It is comfortable to shoot unless you are like me and get pinched by the gap between the magazine floorplate and the frontstrap. I found it to be both accurate and reliable. If I hadn't gone to a G30 for magazine compatibility with my G21, I would probably still carry a G36.

Also, do you realize that attachment picture is of a Sig with the grip panel removed?^8

[mallcop]

I carry a G22 on duty and a G36 off duty. The G36 carries well and in my opinion is not hard to control. It is accurate and functions as well as my G22.

[domzilla9]

I't working great for me. Totally reliable. I own both the G36 and the G30 and I think that they complement each other well.

See THR thread:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=86859

http://dombosco.home.insightbb.com/mrsoftyg36.jpg

[barnettbill]

I love my G36 and carry it every day. Do yourself a favor, get yourself a couple of Pierce +0 extensions for the mags. The stock ones look like an afterthought. I got me some and they look GREAT. And they get rid of the dreaded pinkey bite

[L_N_L]

I know a lawer (no comments please ;)) that carries his in one of those tuckable IWB holsters and you cannot see it in the least. It didn't matter which way he moved, it didn't print at all.

http://store6.yimg.com/I/desantisholster_1796_8595600

[Eins36]

Originally posted by randman
I am dying to know if a g36 really works for every day ccw?

I thought it was clear that CCW is the only real reason d'etre for this powerful, light and compact gun. But if you want, you can: I did up to 300 rounds per range session through it but I could imagine better guns for that.

Bottom line: perfect for CCW, good enough for serious range practice. But what do I know, I only own one gun.

[obxemt]

Originally posted by randman
I am dying to know if a g36 really works for every day ccw?

That is why I purchased one last week. I was thinking about a FIST tuckable ultra-thin Kydex holster.

[randman]

Yesterday I went to the range and rented one. I was so surprised. It shot well, recoil was no big deal at all. This gun was designed for ccw. Why would and undercover cop or ccw carry anything else? If they were into deep concealment that is. I was grouping a cluster at 15 yards. Some days you have good days with certain guns at the range, but it seems as though the 36 was made for my minds eye. It is like I willed the shots through the x ring and they went. Oh, but what in the heck was that pinky pinch all about?

I have to give credit where credit is due. This is one of the best guns for ccw I have seen.

Cheers

[L_N_L]

Originally posted by randman
Oh, but what in the heck was that pinky pinch all about?

Experienced that for a while, but after the Pierce +0 were put on. It took care of that. Or myabe I am just getting used to it, cause it still "gets" my buddy...;N

[mini14jac]

I carrried the G36 for the first time this weekend.
Two days of carry with an untucked Hawaiian shirt.
It was much more comfortable for me, than carrying the Colt Defender.
(Carried in a Milt Sparks Watch Six.)

I did get bit by pinky bite, but the Plus 0 extensions also solved it for me.

As for me, I don't find the recoil nearly as bad as the Ruger P97, or Colt Defender.
I don't think I've gone over 100 rounds in a single range session, but only because I ran out of ammo.

[domzilla9]

I highly recommend the free "pinky callous upgrade" that comes with continual practice with the G36. It's easy to acquire, has no effect on the functionality of your pistol and once you get one you'll ask yourself "How did I ever shoot the G36 without this thing?"

Imho, the pinky callous is an essential accessory for the G36, just as the web callous is essential for shooting a 1911A1.

pinky bite = no big deal :)

Here is my latest IWB holster purchase for the G36 - a FIST #4 Leather IWB, no cant w/j-hook. It's a bit thicker than the High Noon Mr. Softy IWB that I previously mentioned on the thread, but it is much more comfortable. I wear it just in front of my strong side hip-bone.

http://dombosco.home.insightbb.com/fistg36.JPG

[SAWBONES]

The G36 is an excellent CCW choice IMNSHO.
Lightweight, thin, reliable, employs the effective and venerable .45ACP cartridge, accurate, easy to shoot well.
The felt recoil, while greater than that of the G30, is still trivial.

[GunnDogg44]

Pinky Bite ?? I have never experienced this with my 36. Maybe I'm having so much fun I dont notice, or my leather hands are immune to "pinky bite" LOL sounds like something my daughter would say LOL

[domzilla9]

Originally posted by GunnDogg44
"pinky bite" LOL sounds like something my daughter would say LOL

I regularly hang around with two five year old girls (my twin daughters). Speech patterns are contagious.

[DeadBang]

randman...
Being from the "you've got to take it in order to give it" mentality it is my opinion that the G36 is an excellent choice for a big bore CCW. As far as carrying with dress clothes... that's more of a clothing stlye and holster type issue that varies depending on you and your body type, style, what's comfortable what's not, budget, etc.

However, it's not my only option as I've also been known to carry other handguns as my primary but it was usually dictated by my circumstance at that particular point and time.

With that said, the G36 is a dependable and durable pistol that is only 1.13" wide, tips the weight scales at 22 1/2oz empty, fits in a 6 3/4" x 4 3/4" box and holds 7 rounds of 45ACP.

Everyone's circumstance is different when it comes to carrying a handgun. I practice and carry my G36, as a defensive sidearm, everyday with the faith that if I do my job it will serve it's purpose of saving my bacon if the need should arise.

However, if your needs are for an offensive handgun then I would have to voice my vote for the G20 but that's an opinion for another thread;) .

DeadBang

[riddleofsteel]

I have carried a concealed handgun since 1976. I posted a list of that handgun evolution on another site the other day and the list of handguns I have packed on a daily basis is quite extensive. I guess that I am a bit of a gun whore because I used to switch models, sizes and types of handguns quite often. That is until I picked up my G36. It has been over 18 months now and still carry it every day and shoot it at least once a week.
Like all Glocks it is a tool. It is not pretty, shiney, engraved or special. It does not have coco bolo, stag or ivory grips. It did not cost $1000.00 plus or come from a custom shop with a name you recognize from magazine pages, but it does what a CCW handgun is supposed to do. It goes bang every time I pull the trigger and is 100% reliable. It lives in the sweaty, dirty environment of my Kramer horsehide belt scabbard every day with little more care than I would give a hammer or a wrench. But I have what I need, every confidence it will save my life, if and when the need should arise.

http://yerfrockethellhound.com/dailycarry.JPG

[DeadBang]

Hey riddleofsteel...
Good to see another "southpaw" toten the polymer. ;f

Got a link to your "... list of handguns I have packed on a daily basis..." Would like to see how my list compares from a lefty perspective.

randman...
Hope you didn't mind me jacking your thread.

DeadBang

[riddleofsteel]

http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147058&page=5

here it is

[glockess56]

Recently at the range, I tried a G30 and G36 to see which one I would choose, because I want to get a .45 in a Glock. I went in with the intention of seeing which one was the better!
I ended up liking them both. To me, they are too different guns in which I like. Each feels different, shoots diffent, but ooooooh so nice! I was surprized with the low recoil of both of them. So, instead of solving my problem of which one to get or which one is best for me syndrome, I've actually created another problem. Which one will I buy first? I trully like them both, they are neat guns. I have a G17, G19, G23, G26, G27 and a G34, and now I will sometime in my lifetime add a G30 and G36 to my family of Glocks!

[Erich]

Yet another southpaw toting the 36 here. No pinky bite problems, ever. I use a SmartCarry. The 36 is more pleasant to shoot than my aluminum-framed 3" 1911 was. Hits harder, too! :)

[LDHunter]

I'm another one that has carried since way back when the county sheriff was the issuer of permits.

I have no idea how many versions of carry guns I've toted around over the years but when I bought my G36 I finally knew I'd arrived at the perfect solution for a belt/waistband carry weapon.

For "in pocket" use I found the Kel-Tec P380 (P3AT) to be the best available and living in South Florida I should know... (Sickly/sweaty grin)... ;f

$bob$

[DaveR120]

When I first got my 36 I had some of the same problems with my hands as others have mentioned here.

After pounding a few hundred rounds through it, including a qualification and a couple of competitions, I got used to it.

My G36 is my winter carry gun, and the one in the quick-access safe behind my pillow. No complaints here...

[TNRonin]

I've bounced back and forth just a little on the G30-G36, ended up with the G36 for everyday carry. I just got some pearce +0 and really like it. Though I thought it would close that gap up a little more on the bottom. I believe this is a relatively inexpensive positive addition to the gun!

[CanyonMan]

OK boys,
I didn't know if i should make this question a "new" thread, or just post here instead.. So i'll try here first.

I read here, that everyone has 100% reliability, with the G36, and it shoots great, man no problems, and it sounds like the greatest thing since fly paper in the outhouse!

Then, i read on another forum, or else where, that 'everyone' seems to experience FTF, and, FTE, and stove pipes, and this problem, and that problem etc.

Well, so far it seems to all balance out about 50/50%.

I am getting one of those "itches," to buy something new, and i already have a G21, and other Glocks as well. But really load me down here, (and i do not mean to hijack this thread), but, how well does this litte 45 really work? I cannot stand problem-matic guns.

Is this little .45 really working well, and these problems, "human error,"? Or is there some quirks in the G36?

Appreciate you input!

CanyonMan

[LDHunter]

Canyonman,

Anytime you hear someone telling of Glocks having problems working correctly take it with the grain of salt.

Glocks are likely the most reliable weapons made at any time in the history of man. That's why we use these ugly things... <grin>

1911's are prettier but Glocks just keep on working all the time regardless of conditions and the G36 does it just like all the other Glocks. I have about 1,000 rounds through my G36 now and haven't had the first failure of any sort and I've done a fair amount of experimenting with handloads too...

That's not to say that someone can limp wrist one and it won't fail but that's true with any semi-auto pistol although I've never personally seen it happen.

Get a G36 and rest assured that quite simply you have the most reliable weapon made by man and one you can bet your life on....

$bob$

[domzilla9]

CanyonMan,

I think that you're better off relying on your own person experience to tell you whether or not the G36 is reliable enough for carry. You've done your research and the results are mixed. I can find plenty of people on the net that will insist that there is something inherently wrong with every Glock model every made. Right now you'll find plenty of threads on this board and elsewhere that claim that all "F" series G19s are cursed with feeding problems. Well, my local range has a rental "F" series G19 that has 10K rounds through it without cleaning. I have personally put about 80 jhp and 500 fmj rounds through it without a single hitch. I am going to put a box of fifty assorted JHPs in various magazines through it on Friday and if it works I am going to buy it on the spot, even though it is overpriced. I'll gladly pay a premium for a gun that I know works. However, the first G36 that I owned had ejection problems with Winchester White Box ammo until I got it broken in. The specimen that I have now, which is from a later production run, has had ZERO problems with the various kinds of ammo that I've put through it.

The bottom line is that anytime you buy a NIB gun or buy a gun from someone who cannot give you an accurate account of the weapon's history, you're taking a crapshoot. Some are winners and some are losers. Send the losers back to the factory and get them fixed. I have no complaints about Glock's warrantee service, though my experience is limited to one firearm (a G23) out of the nine Glocks that I have owned.

I am once again reminded of another thread on a board known for it's Glock Haters, in which an outspoken critic of Glock rails against the company and its products, claiming "They are falsely advertising! Glocks are NOT perfect!" Of course Glocks aren't perfect. If you find a gun that's perfect, please let the rest of know. We'd like to buy one.

Today's G36 CCDW set up

http://dombosco.home.insightbb.com/g36pockets.JPG

[LDHunter]

Yep... Dom put it better than I did...

With a Glock you have a better chance of getting an ultimately reliable weapon than any other brand.

If you think you might like a G36 you should try one. Of course you should verify that it's reliable for you by testing and more testing.

I bet my life on a Glock every day and have done so for several years now. I've put my life where my mouth is....;f

$bob$

[CanyonMan]

Well, i appreciate the input thus far guys, and i 'understand' not to 'take to heart' all the stuff on the net. In fact i have got the information i mentioned above, 'all of it,' off GT.... I haven't even looked anywhere else, and really, don't even do much of that kinda thing, since i don't really have the time, or the inclination to do so. Just simply saw a number of complaints, or 'concerns', voiced here on GT, about the functionality of the G36, and i figured probably 'human error,'..... but, there is also that chance that there was a "quirk" of some nature too, as Glock 'is not perfect', as it is made by humans. :)

I have owned tons of Glocks over many years, (but still like my revolvers better).. But, i like the idea of this mini .45 Like i said, i have a 21, and have had 'most' all of the Glocks to date. I have had trouble with several of them. Though I realize they are like chevy or ford, anything can go wrong with anything!

I just wondered if there was/is, a 'quirk, of some nature', in the G36.

I truly figured, most of the problems i read about on GT with this gun, were 'human error,' but wanted to have just a little more input to see what perhaps some others were seeing in this little .45, then as said, 'decide for myself'. I learned long ago, i am the 'only one' that can make these decisons. I never go by, dog-matic statements about anything, e.g. this is perfect, it rocks, can't ever go wrong, etc.. this is not true concerning anything on this planet.

So, i just simply wanted some "user input," as to how this G36 is performing for those who shoot them regularaly.


Thanks y'all


CanyonMan

[SAWBONES]

Domzilla, is that a Mika's pocket holster you use with your G36?
(You must have loose pockets, I assume, to carry the G36 in'em!)

[LDHunter]

CanyonMan,

There is a small group of whiners on Glock Talk and almost anywwhere you go that constantly ***** about anything and 99% of the time when you press them for cold hard facts all you get is "he said, she said" kinda answers.

The Police Departments of this country are voting for the reliability of Glocks so loudly that I can't hear a word a few people with a negative attitudes about G36's and everything else in their miserable little lives.

All your other Glocks were reliable... Right?

Well the G36 is no different. Don't let the nay sayers tell you different. They repeat the mantra of Glock problems so much that people start to believe them and that's a travesty.

There are thousands of satisfied Glock owners that frequent Glock Talk every day. The whiners are good at what they do though....

Keep a score card like I do... They are a miniscule minority of the whole group here.

Get it???

$bob$

[Cheesebeast]

Howdy Canyon,

I have a G36 that I like quite a bit. That said, I have also had jams with WWB 230gr FMJ rounds. So far I have put two boxes of Federal Hydrashock through it (I am not rich, sorry), lots of Remington UMC 230 gr FMJs, some Wolf crap, etc. without problems. The failures with WWB were failures to eject. The Remington UMCs and WWBs 230FMJs chronographed an average of 790fps in my G36. The 230gr Hydroshocks went 860 fps. Could the jamming problem be human error? No way. I am prefect...or it could be an example of Glock Prefection.

I alternate carrying the G36 with a Colt CCO .45, so I trust it enough to carry it. I think you would be wise if you purchase a G36 to thoroughly test the pistol with your carry ammo. Hell, buy a Colt or anything else and I would say the same thing!

That proviso in place I will say the G36 offers quite a bit. It is reasonably thin, has a good sight radius, doesn't hurt to shoot (once you put on the +0 Pearce extensions on the magazines), points well, etc. The G36 is light and comfortable to wear, particularly in an OWB holster. I use a Fobus, and I often forget I have it on. The pistol's short length had a bonus- I can sit on a tractor seat and not have the pistol ride up and end up digging me in the ribs. It is a handy beast, plus it is a .45.

I wish you luck,
Cheese

[LDHunter]

Cheesebeast,

WWB has a well known history of being VERY inconsistent. More so by far than any other recent factory ammo I've head of.

Just thought I'd throw that out there.

I read that on Glocktalk and other boards.

As a matter of my own experience I helped a fellow at my local range pound two bullets (separate incidents) out of his 1911 that had been squib White Box loads.... Throw that stuff away and get ANYTHING else!!!

I had been noticing that his loads all sounded different and was watching him closely. I figure it was White Box before I ever peeked in his ammo can.

$bob$

[CanyonMan]

LDHunter,

I understand about the whinning problem..... i agree.
But to answer 'your' question..."All your other glocks were reliable right?" No! As i said in the post above man, i have had a number of "out of the box" problems with several different model glocks, and have had to send them to glock, and sometimes, "argue," over getting it/them fixed. I am not a novice with guns, and i know that any weapon, or any product on the market, as i said, can have a problem. So, that being said, i am neither whining, nor boasting, about Glocks.

Just "simply wondered" if there might be a small design flaw, etc, in this 'particular model," G36. It is really that simple. Not rying whatsoever, to start anything here. :)

I cannot go into details about the other problems, cause i would have to name some names, of folks in the Glock industry, and i do not want to drag them into this..... But, as i said, there is/was 'a flaw' in a particular model i had, and i wrestled around with the 'intustry', if you will, over it till i was blue. Many folks, in the industry "agreed with me," some 'would not.' That was there job!

I really wish i had not started all this, as i usually just take a chance, and if something works, fine, if not, i get rid of it.

Nothing out there is 100% perfect, and everything is subject to human error, and design problems, or there would not be recalls on so many different products on the earth these days.

Glocks are 'fine guns', as are rugers, smiths, kimbers, and a jillion others as well... but every now and then, you find one that pops up with a small weird problem... then the industry needs to tweak it.

So, again, that is why i simply ask if there were folks truly experiencing problems with the G36, "that have really been out there shooting the heck out of the G36," and not just saying it is great, 'because it is a Glock!' I didn't mary my wife 'just cause she is blonde.' (no wise cracks please)... :) Man there are some blondes out there i am glad i did not marry!

I drive i brand new Ford Pickup, decked out, for ranch use, and pleasure as well, already it has some strange stuff goin on with it.

We have driven Fords forever, and my father-in -law built them at the plant in Ohio where he used to live. But, Although i would tell folks that Fords have served us well over the years, i also know at the same time, that the one 'i just got' has a small design problem, and would tell them about it 'if they were looking at Fords.'

"Bottom line..." Just because it is a Glock, does not mean they are all going to function at 100% out of the box. Neither did my brothers new Kimber. What a good reputation that gun has, IMHO, but, he had problems out of the box with his. So, "i just simply wondered if the everyday G36 shooters" out there, were having any problems, then i will weigh that 'for myself' as to wether 'i think in my own mind' that it sounds 'human related,' or perhaps 'Gun related.'


Very Simple!


Thanks


CanyonMan

[LDHunter]

Canyonman,

I obviously didn't read your post very carefully.

I apologize for that....

Also wasn't meaning to label you a whiner.... It's just that most of the people that rant about Glocks seem to just like to whine.

On the Niners Club there are a few that rant and rant about Glock problems but 99% of the people I see on Glock talk never seem to have problems.

I've been a range rat for about 10 years now and I've NEVER seen a Glock with problems and that's after watching literally hundreds of them fired a LOT... Most people bring 1-2 boxes of factory ammo and shoot 'em all.

1911's are a different story... More than half of them that I've seen have malfunctions.

Beretta's and CZ's are the best other than Glocks.

Sorry you had problems with your Glock(s).

$bob$

[JoeG19]

I had a bad introduction to the 36 with a rented range gun. A friend let me shoot his a week or so later and it worked flawlessly. I tried to trade him. I shot UMC 230s in my friend's 36.

So, I bought one. The following is from a post of mine in the Sub Club: "I've put 200 rounds of WinWhiteBox 230 and 185; 20 Federal Premium 230gr Hydra Shock; 20 Win Silver Tips 230, w/o one failure of any kind. I have a fist full of Remington Golden Sabers coming in 185 to test. Because of arthritis in my hands, I prefer the 185 as it shoots softer. Both 230 and 185 were very accurate at 7 and 15 on a small silhouette target. I have three mags with Pearce +0 on them and one stock. I get no 'pinch' from any of them. The G36 is a keeper! It will soon replace my 27 as my carry."

Now I can add that in doing my carry test I shot 200 rds of Remington Golden Saber, 185gr w/o a hitch. One other nice thing about it is that it fits my Milt Sparks VM2 for my 27. Well...it might poke out a little but not a $100 worth. ;) It also fits my Blade Tech G27 slide. Try it..you'll like it. - 'ole joe :cool:

[CanyonMan]

LDHunter,

Hey my man, "NO apology, 'even' needed! :)

It has just been one of things, at times, when we happen to "be the one who gets something funky." Most all my Glocks have been fine! Just a few with some strange quirks.

All is cool!

Have a good one!


CanyonMan

[fabricator]

Just gettin mine broke in, 30k so far, smyrna just put a new frame on it about 3 weeks ago, it developed cracks above the small pin just under the slide, Tony said he has not heard of another 36 with 30k thru it yet, This should not be a big worry because most 36's will never see this many rds, I've got a nice big callous on my middle finger where the trigger guard lays on it.:)

[Eins36]

Originally posted by fabricator
I've got a nice big callous on my middle finger where the trigger guard lays on it.:)

Nothing on the thumb knuckle? That's where mine is hurting.

30K! I'm almost there too. Only 88% missing ;f

[fabricator]

Originally posted by Eins36
Nothing on the thumb knuckle? That's where mine is hurting.

30K! I'm almost there too. Only 88% missing ;f

Nope nothing on the thumb knuckle, I seem to remember something like that in the distant past but it went away.;f

[digitspaw]

It's slick as monkey snot. Just hold on to it! I had a few FTFs/FTEs the first day then I started really getting a good grip. I was really used to the wider G30 and my G26. I also think the G36 is enough for CCW. At least in my scenario. I carry in a Smart Carry Double side rig and use the left side to carry TWO spare mags. I never feel under gunned and I dare people to find it. ;a