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Eye Cutter
06-21-2004, 18:27
It's been a while since I've had a chance to read the posts over at the Brian Enos Forum.

These forums contain a treasure trove of information for newbies to GM's regarding training drills, mental preparations, concepts and skills development.

Problem is, there's so much good info there, you don't know where to start reading!

Here are some of my favorites...

Deliberateness is the source economy of motion, efficiency is the result. Think about it. Why or how do the top guys shoot good points, quickly? If your pistol just waves or wanders toward a target in general, it will not land on a specific location on that target decisively. You must train yourself to see ahead of the gun. You drive the gun with your eyes. Especially with iron sights, your focal plane must be continuously moving, continuously shifting, for this to happen. But for your focus to decisively snap to a precise spot on the next target, your eyes must have seen and your mind must have known exactly what happened on the previous target. When this occurs, you have unlocked the door to quick, precise transitions.
The two activities of calling and acquiring eventually must blend together - harmoniously, simultaneously, almost effortlessly guiding the action.

be

Eye Cutter
06-21-2004, 18:37
Regardless of shot difficulty or speed, knowing precisely where the bullet went before it arrived is the key that unlocks all aspects of successful shooting. And as no two shots fired are ever the same, shooting demands the discipline of continuous learning.
be

mikey177
06-22-2004, 00:49
Originally posted by Eye Cutter
But for your focus to decisively snap to a precise spot on the next target, your eyes must have seen and your mind must have known exactly what happened on the previous target. When this occurs, you have unlocked the door to quick, precise transitions.


Doc,

Is BE talking about follow through and calling your shots in these statements, or something more advanced?

doctabako
06-22-2004, 05:23
This is also one of my favorites, and it comes from our very own MC_OLIVER, posted at the mental threads


When we look at something, we take it for granted (..well, I do) that what we are looking is the correct image. Sometimes, given enough time, we realize there is more to the image than what we had previously assumed. Okay I'll give it a term "visual preconceptions."

Let's take for example a target with a narrow A-zone bordered by no-shoots. I don't know about you guys but everytime I put the sights on target, I don't want any whites near my sight pic. And I've always settled for c-shots in these cases. Lately, I'm trying to program myself that I still have a safe and correct sight pic even when there's white at the edge of my rear sight.

Or take recoil for example. I've always wondered why a spring or load change takes some "getting used to" visually. I realized I was expecting the gun to recoil "this way" but I no longer "see" it because it has already changed. So now I need to know how it's supposed to look like recoiling before I can successfully track it through it's new recoil cycle.

Or that very low port that requires you to crouch short of going prone. These times I see the top of the slide yet I still manage to hit targets with this sight pic. It's because I know I've seen this sight pic before, and I know when I see this it's enough to get a hit (most of the time .)

With high-speed shooting, for me, the difficulty becomes apparent when I'm presented with weird target arrays I have never shot before. It's probably because I have yet to experience the visual input necessary to guarantee I get good hits. And do so while taking less and less time processing what I see.

One thing I learned, though, is that dry fire is one good way to train my eyes to know what I should be looking at. Duh?

Sorry for the long post and I hope I made sense.

Eye Cutter
06-22-2004, 08:47
that's what so spooky about BE's concepts! I guess it boil's down to focus and seeing what you need to see. It's hard to explain until you can do it yourself. You get to understand what he's saying only when you experience those concepts for yourself and you seem to shoot in a slow motion fashion.

It's a state of being aware of everything that happened, what's happening, and what you want to do next! The past, present and future gets muddled up that it's one continuous slow motion blur!

4eyes
06-25-2004, 17:55
Confidence to know that you can, relaxation, and aggressive attitude to "DO".

mc_oliver
06-25-2004, 21:08
The most difficult instant to see the sights lift is during slow, aimed fire.
The easiest is during rhythmic fire, when you're not trying to hit anything in particular. Just casually watching....
You don't have to be looking right at the sights to see them lift. Actually it's probably easier if you aren't.
If you don't see the sights lifting and returning, you're probably blinking.
IMO it's valuable to know whether you're blinking or not without depending on seeing your sights lift or not.
When you first try to know this it helps to have a friend confirm whether or not your blinking by looking at your eyes while you shoot. But eventually you'll want to know this for sure by yourself.
With a friend watching, fire a magful of rounds at a slow cadence and see if you can confirm whether you are blinking with your friend. Without exception, everyone I've worked with on this cannot tell, at first. You have to learn to tell if you are blinking by yourself.
While repeating the experiment, shift 98% of your attention to your aiming eye and your facial area surrounding your eye (leaving a trace of your attention to simply watching the site's activity. This is not easy to do because we never do it. We're always casting our attention out, often straining to see the targets, holes, or even the sights. Keep repeating this until you become comfortable firing with absolutely no concern over where the bullets are going. At this point you should be close to knowing what it feels like to be aware of your face and eye while you are firing. If you keep practicing this awareness excercise - begin and end each training session with it - after some time you'll become sensitive to whether you're blinking on your own. This is vital for progress. You must learn to calmly see everything that is happening even though firecrackers are continuously exploding right in front of your face.

[number 2]
Yea, the blinking problem is a tough one, but it can be beaten if you apply yourself properly.
The longer blinking has gone on unnoticed, the harder you may have to work to correct it.
First, definitely use all the ear protection you can deal with.
It's good to realize that it is a natural/normal reaction to blink, because, shooting a pistol is not much different than having a firecracker go off in front of your face every time you pull the trigger. So don't make it bad. The usual approach, when we label something as bad or undesirable, is to want "get rid of it." This usually just makes the problem worse. Instead of wanting to eliminate it, just LOOK at the problem - become aware of what is REALLY going on. That's why on the tape I talked about shifting your attention to the your face, eyes, or the area around your eyes when you are shooting. This moves your attention into an area you were previously unaware of. (This is the most powerful tool we possess to permanently change behavior.) Now at this point, the important thing is to NOT ATTEMPT TO CONTROL what is happening. Instead, just place ALL your attention in your face while firing into the backstop at nothing in particular and notice whether or not you are blinking. Just notice what your eyes/face are actually doing as you fire shots. (In the beginning it helps to have a friend confirm if you’re blinking or not.) Shoot slowly for awhile, then at a medium speed, and then more quickly, paying attention to what your eye/face is doing at various shooting speeds. Then place 9/10 of your attention in your face (leaving the other 1/10 to aim) while doing the same thing shooting groups on a target.
You yourself must know if you are blinking before your body will make the necessary adjustments. Your body will correct its activity BASED SIMPLY ON YOUR CLEAR INTENT TO CALL THE SHOT. (Which implies that your eye remain open through the shot cycle.) With experience you will learn to relaxedly just look right at the sights during the firing cycle. But again, it’s not natural so you must cultivate it.
I’ve also found it helps to consciously open the eyes a little wider than normal, like if you noticed something interested and wanted to look more closely at it. Even disregarding the blinking factor, I see better/more when opening the aiming eye just short of the “deer in the headlights” look.
Start your practice sessions with a few slow fire accuracy drills, monitoring for blinking, and then do the same to end your day’s practice. That’s good stuff.
Again – you must learn to know for certain whether you are blinking or not. Once you’ve learned to know whether or not you’re blinking, the problem is just about whipped.
Even after shooting/competing for 20 + years, I’ve noticed, if I haven’t been to the range in awhile, I may blink a little for the first shots. Always pay attention.
be

mc_oliver
06-25-2004, 21:15
Originally posted by mikey177
Doc,

Is BE talking about follow through and calling your shots in these statements, or something more advanced?
Mikey, yung concept nila on follow through is an advanced type. Unlike the kind of follow through we get to hear a lot where you hold the gun steady for a while after the shot, sa kanya hindi. He advocates learning to see the gun through it's recoil arc. It's when you learn to see how the sights looked like before it jumped that you already know where the bullet will hit. Seeing this, you no longer have to wait for the gun to settle back on target. You can actually start moving the gun while it's still recoiling because you've already confirmed your hit in the initial phase of the recoil cycle. ;)

Totally unheard of concepts na minsan itanong mo sa ibang shooters dito, they give you back a blank look. That's also one reason gusto ko mag shift muna to a dot kahit hindi open baril ko. I'm hoping I can train my eyes to observe the little things the dot does that we take for granted sa iron sights.

Also, the first hurdle to be able to do this is to know if your blinking or not during firing. ;)

Eye Cutter
06-26-2004, 07:13
mc_o: madali ma-cure yang blinking. pahiramin kita ng eyelid speculum para hindi ka mag blink! ikakabit mo when you're already on the firing line! ;K

http://66.223.105.85/search/images/8-08101pu.gif

Allegra
06-26-2004, 08:39
Originally posted by mc_oliver
Mikey, yung concept nila on follow through is an advanced type. Unlike the kind of follow through we get to hear a lot where you hold the gun steady for a while after the shot, sa kanya hindi. He advocates learning to see the gun through it's recoil arc. It's when you learn to see how the sights looked like before it jumped that you already know where the bullet will hit. Seeing this, you no longer have to wait for the gun to settle back on target. You can actually start moving the gun while it's still recoiling because you've already confirmed your hit in the initial phase of the recoil cycle. ;)

Totally unheard of concepts na minsan itanong mo sa ibang shooters dito, they give you back a blank look. That's also one reason gusto ko mag shift muna to a dot kahit hindi open baril ko. I'm hoping I can train my eyes to observe the little things the dot does that we take for granted sa iron sights.

Also, the first hurdle to be able to do this is to know if your blinking or not during firing. ;)

alam mo fafa oliver, sinubokan ko na lahat yan eh
Muntik na masira ulo ko kahahanap
If you "try " to look for it, lalo mahihirapan hanapin. Naks :)
I just went back to the basics. See the target, lagay sights sa target etc.
And I just pratcticed and I practiced some more.
Soon, SYET, nakikita ko na nga dapat ko makita! Tama nga si fafa BE!
Thats why, naintindihan ko lang libro nya nung mejo advanced na shooting ko. Naks ulit :)
In short, wag mo hanapin, dadating yan :)

doctabako
06-26-2004, 09:12
Originally posted by Eye Cutter
mc_o: madali ma-cure yang blinking. pahiramin kita ng eyelid speculum para hindi ka mag blink! ikakabit mo when you're already on the firing line! ;K

http://66.223.105.85/search/images/8-08101pu.gif

or this
http://www.vision-surgery.com/images/instrument2.jpg
along with some topical oxybuprocaine(anaesthetic) ;f Dyok onli;f

mc_oliver
06-27-2004, 00:52
Mga docs, I'm at a loss for words! ;z ;z

Master A, oo nga eh. Practis lang naman talaga katapat nito. Pero ang 'di ko maintindihan bakit masarap pa rin hanapin yung sagot sa equipment. Tulad nung magic load na hanggang ngayon hinahanap ko pa rin. ;f

Eye Cutter
06-27-2004, 03:01
Yeah, equipment need not cost you an arm and a leg. But it must be functional and tailor fit to your style of shooting. Most important, it must work 100%. That's one less variable to worry about and you get to focus on the shooting and not think if the equipment will breakdown or not!

jasonub
06-27-2004, 08:58
on the varilla cup something weird happened. i shot like i was shooting an open gun. i was looking at the target and the a's appear before my eyes. i forgot what be said about this type of shooting. i was so engrossed at the incredible sight of putting 2 a's one after the other, that i also did it on the 12-15 meter target and swinger at that. so stupid i got an alpha mike and another alpha mike. i reengaged the last but not the first.

now i dont know what stage im at again. i now have to will to see a type 2 focus again:( :( (both sights and target are blurred)

Eye Cutter
06-27-2004, 09:19
yeah, sometimes you have to slow down to process all the visual input properly to get good hits!

an example here is when you experience a jam and you try to make up for lost time after clearing it and your gameplan goes down the drain that you start to pile up mistakes instead.

rather than try to go faster, its better to slow down and get good hits instead!

jasonub
06-27-2004, 21:28
well the results got in i screwed up major. it seems that its slow to make sure of an a. after analyzing my shooting, i now remember that i shoot at the target and then look at it if there are 2 a's, if not i shoot again:(

as brian said you have to trust what you did and move on.

Eye Cutter
06-27-2004, 22:46
...lalo ka mabagal if you start verifying your hits all the time. pag kalabit, alam na kung saan tatama yung shot na yun (calling your shots).

otherwise, pigil ang putok, matagal ang pauses and transitions between targets also slow down...

Eye Cutter
06-27-2004, 22:53
the time i verify shots is when i didn't see or i was not sure where the front sights were when i pulled the trigger. madalas mangyari yan. specially when our eyes move on to the next target even before sigurado ka na sa last shot!

Allegra
06-28-2004, 08:20
Originally posted by mc_oliver
Mga docs, I'm at a loss for words! ;z ;z

Master A, oo nga eh. Practis lang naman talaga katapat nito. Pero ang 'di ko maintindihan bakit masarap pa rin hanapin yung sagot sa equipment. Tulad nung magic load na hanggang ngayon hinahanap ko pa rin. ;f


Pareho lang tayo ng problema
bili ako ng bili ng bagong bike parts kahit parati ako talo sa mga siklistang sa uniwide lang binili ang bisikleta.
kahit I klnow the answer is " just ride "

Allegra
06-28-2004, 08:31
Originally posted by Eye Cutter
...lalo ka mabagal if you start verifying your hits all the time. pag kalabit, alam na kung saan tatama yung shot na yun (calling your shots).

otherwise, pigil ang putok, matagal ang pauses and transitions between targets also slow down...


Kaya nagiging pigil, kasi may tension
Pimipilit mo mag A ( naninigurado ), takot ka mag miss or d, match pressure, tinatrashtalk ka ng kalaban etc.
Habang tumatagal, lalo na tumataas tension, at lalo na bumabagal
easier said than done pero you got to step back and relax
To "see" faster, dapat navisualize mo na beforehand lahat ng dapat mo makita sa stage na yun

Eye Cutter
06-28-2004, 16:42
Originally posted by Allegra

To "see" faster, dapat navisualize mo na beforehand lahat ng dapat mo makita sa stage na yun

...kaya dapat na-memorize mo na yung CoF. and don't change diskarte pag ikaw na susunod sa firing line... ;K

9MX
06-28-2004, 18:14
Originally posted by Eye Cutter
...kaya dapat na-memorize mo na yung CoF. and don't change diskarte pag ikaw na susunod sa firing line... ;K

very true, last sunday i recall losing my focus when i goofed up early at the start of my run on a 16-rounder stage. i learned that the best thing to do when these occur is to cut losses and maintain focus on the appearing targets ;e

mc_oliver
06-28-2004, 19:16
Originally posted by Eye Cutter
and don't change diskarte pag ikaw na susunod sa firing line... ;K
Naku po! I'm guilty your honor. Napapasunod ako palagi sa diskarte nung shooter na sinusundan ko...

batangueno
06-28-2004, 19:20
Ang problema ko parang masyado naman akong relax, parang walang sense of urgency. Hindi na nga ako kinakabahan, it's not in my nature kasi to be competitive...sarap lang talaga pumutok. Pero gusto ko rin naman mataas ang standing, pano kaya 'yon?

mc_oliver
06-28-2004, 19:41
Originally posted by batangueno
Ang problema ko parang masyado naman akong relax, parang walang sense of urgency. Hindi na nga ako kinakabahan, it's not in my nature kasi to be competitive...sarap lang talaga pumutok. Pero gusto ko rin naman mataas ang standing, pano kaya 'yon?
Dre, try mo hulihin sarili mo nagbi-brisk walk from position to position instead of running. Too many times I've actually caught myself do this, not sure why. Once alam mo ng tumatakbo ka, bibilis time mo, guaranteed, 'di mo pa ini-iba pace ng putok mo nyan. ;)

Once in a while sa range, tumatakbo takbo ako para'ng loko simulating a position change. Kasi I need to know how it feels to run. Minsan sa match, akala ko tumatakbo na ako, pag tingin sa video, pucha, jogging ginagawa ko. :)

jasonub
06-28-2004, 19:59
Originally posted by Allegra
Kaya nagiging pigil, kasi may tension
Pimipilit mo mag A ( naninigurado ), takot ka mag miss or d, match pressure, tinatrashtalk ka ng kalaban etc.
Habang tumatagal, lalo na tumataas tension, at lalo na bumabagal
easier said than done pero you got to step back and relax
To "see" faster, dapat navisualize mo na beforehand lahat ng dapat mo makita sa stage na yun

nakakainis talaga;g
i hope i can relax on the next match and throw away any expectation.

Saruman
06-28-2004, 20:04
Originally posted by batangueno
Ang problema ko parang masyado naman akong relax, parang walang sense of urgency. Hindi na nga ako kinakabahan, it's not in my nature kasi to be competitive...sarap lang talaga pumutok. Pero gusto ko rin naman mataas ang standing, pano kaya 'yon?

mula nung nawalan ako ng budget and time to practice, lalo ako naging relax sa shooting ko.. sa comp na ko mismo pumuputok and all i do at home is dry fire a week before a comp.. relaxed!! i enjoy the shoot and COFs.. yung first shot is always the best and tuloy tuloy na yon.. :) :)

batangueno
06-28-2004, 21:13
Originally posted by mc_oliver
Dre, try mo hulihin sarili mo nagbi-brisk walk from position to position instead of running. Too many times I've actually caught myself do this, not sure why. Once alam mo ng tumatakbo ka, bibilis time mo, guaranteed, 'di mo pa ini-iba pace ng putok mo nyan. ;)

Once in a while sa range, tumatakbo takbo ako para'ng loko simulating a position change. Kasi I need to know how it feels to run. Minsan sa match, akala ko tumatakbo na ako, pag tingin sa video, pucha, jogging ginagawa ko. :)
Watching myself on video parang ang bagal ko...kung sa bagay mabagal talaga...sobrang bigat kasi..hehe;f Watching top shooters when they put their game faces on when they step on the starting position. Kita mo sa mga mukha nila yung intensity, concentration at para bang galit sa mga targets. Yun ang wala ako.

batangueno
06-28-2004, 21:16
Originally posted by Saruman
.. yung first shot is always the best and tuloy tuloy na yon.. :) :) When you smell the gunpowder....babalik ka rin. ;f

Eye Cutter
06-28-2004, 23:39
batangueno: hindi ka mabagal kumilos. ang bilis mo nga tumakbo. Pati diskarte natin sa mga CoF's ayos na. Di na tayo takot tumira ng mga malalayong targets at mga bakal. Ang problema, mabagal ang splits (na tumatama at di basta rat-rat) and transitions natin!

Tama concepts ni BE. You should see what you need to see to be able to shoot fast and accurately! Ang problema natin, ang bagal makita yung sights natin! Yung cycle or sequence of events na mag-acquire ng target, align the sights, pull the trigger, see the sights lift in recoil, and return the sights to the target, yun ang mabagal tayo!

Dyan lamang mga naka red dot sights, kasi meron window yung scope that you are fairly sure you are indexed to the target and put the dot on the target. Less one variable na hindi kelangan i-align yung front and rear sights.

batangueno
06-29-2004, 00:41
Originally posted by Eye Cutter
batangueno: hindi ka mabagal kumilos. ang bilis mo nga tumakbo. Pati diskarte natin sa mga CoF's ayos na. Di na tayo takot tumira ng mga malalayong targets at mga bakal. Ang problema, mabagal ang splits (na tumatama at di basta rat-rat) and transitions natin!

Dami ko pa rin mikes eh. ;f Sumusunod pa ako sa mga diskarte nyo, na-leche nga nung ako ang nauna. "Load and make ready" na nagtatanong pa rin kung anong gagawin....hehe ;f;f
Originally posted by Eye Cutter

Tama concepts ni BE. You should see what you need to see to be able to shoot fast and accurately! Ang problema natin, ang bagal makita yung sights natin! Yung cycle or sequence of events na mag-acquire ng target, align the sights, pull the trigger, see the sights lift in recoil, and return the sights to the target, yun ang mabagal tayo!

Lalo na pag first target, ang bagal ko makita yung front sight.

Sabi nga ni Coach Adong nung sa stage nya ako pumutok, "Concentrate, mike sa static tapos 2 alpha sa swinger...sayang."

Eye Cutter
06-29-2004, 07:20
Originally posted by batangueno
Dami ko pa rin mikes eh. ;f Sumusunod pa ako sa mga diskarte nyo, na-leche nga nung ako ang nauna. "Load and make ready" na nagtatanong pa rin kung anong gagawin....hehe ;f;f

e lahat naman tayo, iba-iba ang diskarte sa stage na yun! ;f;f;f


Lalo na pag first target, ang bagal ko makita yung front sight.

Sabi nga ni Coach Adong nung sa stage nya ako pumutok, "Concentrate, mike sa static tapos 2 alpha sa swinger...sayang."

kasi kumpyansa na sa malalapit, umaalis na ng tingin di pa nakakalabit! ayun, mike!

;K

batangueno
06-29-2004, 21:08
Originally posted by Eye Cutter
kasi kumpyansa na sa malalapit, umaalis na ng tingin di pa nakakalabit! ayun, mike!

;K ;f ;f

Allegra
06-29-2004, 21:10
No not just memorize pards
Lahat ng makikita mi when shooting
Sights lifting sa A, where your foot is gonna land, exhale as you et up the shot etc

Originally posted by Eye Cutter
...kaya dapat na-memorize mo na yung CoF. and don't change diskarte pag ikaw na susunod sa firing line... ;K

Allegra
06-29-2004, 21:21
Originally posted by batangueno
Ang problema ko parang masyado naman akong relax, parang walang sense of urgency. Hindi na nga ako kinakabahan, it's not in my nature kasi to be competitive...sarap lang talaga pumutok. Pero gusto ko rin naman mataas ang standing, pano kaya 'yon?

Buti nga ikaw relaxed eh :)
Ako masama buong linggo ko pag talo, ayun dali na burnout
Evaluate mo yung putok mo
Mabagal ka talga? dahil sa galaw/ or sa putok?diskarte?AOTA?
Or baka your accuracy is suffering
If everything fails, be happy you enjoying it
Ako, kaya di tumagal sa isang sport. pikon kasi hehe

Allegra
06-29-2004, 21:26
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Eye Cutter
[B]batangueno: hindi ka mabagal kumilos. ang bilis mo nga tumakbo. Pati diskarte natin sa mga CoF's ayos na. Di na tayo takot tumira ng mga malalayong targets at mga bakal. Ang problema, mabagal ang splits (na tumatama at di basta rat-rat) and transitions natin!

Tama concepts ni BE. You should see what you need to see to be able to shoot fast and accurately! Ang problema natin, ang bagal makita yung sights natin! Yung cycle or sequence of events na mag-acquire ng target, align the sights, pull the trigger, see the sights lift in recoil, and return the sights to the target, yun ang mabagal tayo!

*******************
You dont now that for sure unless itime mo
Pag naka focus ka sa nakikita mo, talgang mukang slow motion
Maguglat ka nalang na mabilis pala ang time
Wag kayo magmadali bumilis,makikita nyo yan, pag di nyo hinanap ( relaxed eh ). Naks!

batangueno
06-30-2004, 00:24
fafa lenard, baka pumunta kami sa Banga sa July 10. Kita tayo doon at para meron hands on training...hehe;f

Ano balita sa bike, baka mamaya ikaw pala nag-champion sa Danao hindi mo sinasabi.;a

Allegra
07-01-2004, 09:08
Originally posted by batangueno
fafa lenard, baka pumunta kami sa Banga sa July 10. Kita tayo doon at para meron hands on training...hehe;f

Ano balita sa bike, baka mamaya ikaw pala nag-champion sa Danao hindi mo sinasabi.;a

Hah? may laro ba sa banga? sabihin ko ilapit yung mga targets, di nako tatama :)

mejo, na divert nanaman ":), lipat triathlon naman ngayon :)

Saruman
07-01-2004, 19:36
Originally posted by batangueno
fafa lenard, baka pumunta kami sa Banga sa July 10. Kita tayo doon at para meron hands on training...hehe;f

batangueno, i might not shoot banga anymore.. gun show na lang... meron after the show??:) :)

glck17
07-01-2004, 20:53
Gov. Victor Agbayani CUP
PPSA level 2 sanctioned match
July 30-August 01, 2004
7 stages, 142 rounds
Hosted By: Dagupan Practical Shooting Association
Venue: Pangasinan Police Provincial Office Firing Range, Lingayen, Pangasinan

Hope to see you there.;)

Eye Cutter
07-01-2004, 22:37
glck17: Sali kami dyan! Nagkita kami nila RO Chris last week and they invited us already. Punta kami ng tropa ng PB sa inyo! Picnic?
;f

saruman: NENA!

glck17
07-01-2004, 23:09
eyecutter: Picnic? No problem! dami inihaw na bangus ;)

Eye Cutter
07-01-2004, 23:17
dapat boneless ha!?! ;f;f;f Saaarrappp!!!

Judge, Batangueno: markahan nyo na kalendaryo nyo! punta tayo sa Lingayen end of the month!

batangueno
07-02-2004, 01:41
Originally posted by Eye Cutter
dapat boneless ha!?! ;f;f;f Saaarrappp!!!

^7 Puputok ba tayo o kakain...hehe;f

Saruman
07-02-2004, 09:02
Originally posted by Eye Cutter
saruman: NENA!

overnight??!! hehehehe game!!

Eye Cutter
07-19-2004, 08:37
Shooting is for the most part a mechanical test (Brian sums it up in 3 simple lines). Your greatest challenge actually is removing yourself, your wants,your expectations, your ego from the shooting. That is where the problem starts!!

Think of a double shot- if you can fire that second shot on target as the gun resettles, provided the other mechanics are in place(grip, stance etc), won't that split be fast!! and accurate..?

If you call your shot, and transition during the recoil cycle so that the gun resettles on that second target, again providing the other mechanics are in place (grip, stance etc), won't that transition time be fast!! and accurate..?

So therefore all you need is the 'how' and to be able to execute the 'how'..THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO TRUST- YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF THE HOW & YOUR ABILITY TO EXECUTE THE HOW- nothing else outside of that matters then and there- not your girlfriend watching, not the next competitor, not your SVI at the gunsmith for tuning whilst you have to be shooting this POS- nothing. BE PROCESS-ORIENTED, NOT RESULT-ORIENTED!!.. and speed and accuracy will come, almost as a by-product..

I once witnessed someone practicing to do sub-one second draws and first shot on a target about 5 yds away, and they would occasionally dip under the one second, but they weren't consistent and accuracy would suffer. This person moved fast, everyone around said so (I did too), so why wasn't he getting a consistent sub 1 sec. draw? Guess what he was being result-oriented and he also had mechanical flaws. Out of all the 'hows' that he needed to know I told him the simplest 'how' which was to move on the start of the beep and not at the end of the beep..and thereafter he began to hit draws in the 0.90s consistently.. After about 6 sub 1 secs. attempts he began to climb above the 1 sec. mark again, frustrated he turned to me and I asked 'You are trying to go faster, aren't you??' and he said 'Yes'.

I said I have shown you a 'how' now go and learn the execution of this how..plus you need to learn other 'hows'.. that is what will make you faster and accurate CONSISTENTLY!! enough already

9MX
07-19-2004, 09:01
eyecutter,

^6 again! as i was reading your latest post, its like i'm hearing "look at the front sight!" which is what you reminded me the last time:)

Eye Cutter
07-25-2004, 03:15
Do I just need to decide exactly where I need to hit each target before the start signal? Could this be that simple?

The beginning is not only that simple but critical. Various distractions and preconceived notions, however, often prevent us from dedicating the time to do that.

This is a game of high-speed precision. If you don't precisely plan what you want to happen, there's not much chance that it will.
Once you become proficient in that, the next step is to learn to maintain continuous awareness right through the distraction of the buzzer, which allows clear intention to manifest as deliberate action.
Paying attention to what you need to see to get the job done in practice gives you the tools to do the above, for competition.

You cannot create a precise plan until you know from experience what that plan needs to be, based on the scenario's requirements and your experience with similar targets.
be

Eye Cutter
07-25-2004, 06:34
when you're shooting Alpha, Mike...

Consciously, visually, drive the sights back for the second (and every) shot. Always, always, always. Never take anything for granted. Let the gun tell you when to shoot.
be

Eye Cutter
08-04-2004, 17:25
My biggest breakthrough was finally understanding what the "5 elements of success" were in my IPSC shooting.

1. Get good gear and never stop trying to better the technology. Let the "tech" work for you. It need not be state of the art but obtain as good gear as you can afford.

2. Follow your own lead, use gear and techniques YOU believe in...not what others say you should have or do.

3. Listen to the advise of those that have been there. If BE or TGO "suggests" that you try something...what have you got to lose by trying it and giving it your best efforts? Learn from a Pro.

4. Not everyone has the physical skills for success but those that have heart and desire can make up for a lack of "cat like reflexes".

5. Always try hard, work hard, believe in yourself and your abilities and shoot against YOU, not the others on the range. Challenge yourself to improve on your best effort to date. Soon enough...you'll reach the top of your game.

* This is how a 38 year old man at 275 pounds made "M" in Limited Division shooting a "capacity challenged" SV in 45acp.

Chuck D (a BE Forum member)