Anyone carry Golden Sabers ? ? ?

[Banker Billy]

Hello one and all . . .

Having a hard time finding Gold Dots in my area so I picked-up 100 rounds of Remington Golden Sabers. It's a +P load with 124 grain bullets. They run great in my Glock 26 and Glock 19. Slide speed is just a tad bit faster than the W-W 115 HP load that I had been using but really no more recoil.

So . . . does anyone else out there carry the Golden Sabers in 9mm caliber ? ? ?

Thanks ! !

[BravoSix]

I carry the same thing in my 19. Very soft recoiling for +p and with the 9mm3 followers, have never had a feeding problem with them.
I too could not find any Gold Dots, so I settled for the Golden Sabers and am glad that I did.
Also went to www.ammolab.com and saw that the expansion is comparable to the Gold Dots.

BravoSix out.

[J.P.]

Honestly,i've never shot them but the 230gr .45 GS is top notch!
I plan to test some 9mm GS soon and I'll post the results here.
The price of the GS is attractive when compared to almost every other defensive round plus you get 25 per box instead of 20.

[cl147]

Nothing wrong with the Golden Sabre. IIRC, the FBI uses this load in .45ACP (and they're quite happy with it's performance).

Good choice.

[sundance43.5]

Originally posted by cl147
Nothing wrong with the Golden Sabre. IIRC, the FBI uses this load in .45ACP (and they're quite happy with it's performance).

Good choice.

I thought the FBI uses Hydra Shocks.

[cl147]

I recall reading somewhere that they're using Sabres in their 1911's. In fact, their HRT or SWAT guys' 1911's had a specific level of accuracy with Sabres built right into the specs.

[Sho Nuff]

Golden Sabers are a great design.

I don't know if they still do, but the main gripe some people had with them was QC. Haven't heard it in awhile, so it may have been rectified.

If you want a good source of Gold Dots, try ordering from Georgia Precision. They sell the Black Hills Loaded Gold Dot and have excellent QC.

Pro Load also sells a good version of the Gold Dot.

Hope this helps.

[nationaltrp]

When I carried a 9mm on duty, I carried the round you are asking about. I was in a gunfight with them (shot two men)and they performed well, at least as good as you can expect from a 9mm. If I still carried a 9mm I would not hesitate to carry the Golden Saber again.

[TLE]

I carry my SIG P239 in 9mm with Remington Golden Sabers. On trips, camping, or winter carry when I can carry bigger easily, I use Golden Sabers in my SIG P220 .45auto as well.

Really comfortable with them and they shoot very accurately out of my guns.



Terry

[Mas]

nationaltrp: I'd like to hear what happened to the two men. did they stop?

[Wicked96SS]

I carry 124 grain +P GS in my G26, Kahr PM9 when I carry either one of those guns... I have shot a lot of them through both pistols, and they function great!

I used to use the 185 grain +P GS for my G30, but switched to the 200 grain +P Gold Dots, as they have less muzzle flash than the GS do... Plus found some tests on the Gold Dots that show them to work very very well out of a G30.

I didn't notice the muzzle flash in the 9mm GS though...

[D2G19]

I do; as has been stated - accurate and reliable.

[Steve in Utah]

Regarding the ammo in question, I've heard the Golden Saber is a good bullet design, but generally speaking, Remington ammo isn't very clean burning.

Is this true?

[nationaltrp]

Mas, to answer your question: the first maggot I shot I hit in the upper right portion of the chest, the groin area, and grazed his head. When he hit the ground with his knees he shot back at the same time and hit me in the lower abdomen. He was also using a 9mm. It dropped me to my knees. I immediately aimed for the second armed maggot's head who was using my partner for a sheild. I hit his head and it killed him instantly. When my partner ran to his patrol car to call for an ambulance and he saw the first maggot laying on the ground taking aim on him. He drew his .45 and hit him in the lower left abdomen. Unfortunately, my partner was carrying hardball so it didn't do much damage. It was, however, enough to put him back down.

So to answer your question, it didn't stop the first maggot but did stop the second maggot, although I could have hit maggot #2 with a .22 and it would probably have killed him. In all fairness though, the first maggot was high on heroin so it's possible that nothing short of cutting off his head would have stopped him. Keep in mind that I too was hit with a 9mm and it didn't stop me. The trauma surgeon said it passed a hair's width away from my main artery, so if it had clipped that, I most likely would have bled out. So sometimes size does matter. That's why I carry a .45 now.

By the way, the first maggot survived and will spend the rest of his life in the state pen. He's also wearing a colostomy from now on.

[Mas]

wow, good to hear you and your partner made it. Thanks for sharing.

[mindcrime]

Remington sent us some Golden Sabres to test for our Dept. On a chrono, the +p 9mm 124 gr were slower than the standard pressure 9mm 124 gr. we encountered 3 squib loads in two different lots. The standard deviation was also extreme. The QC did not seem to be there. When we told the factory rep about the problems we encountered, he stated that he could beat any other bid. We ended up adopting Speer 124 gr +p-they have been very effective in our shootings. The bullets from the autopsies look almost like they had been fired into gel,even if they hit heavy bone.

[Ian111]

I like Golden Sabers too despite some of the comments that Golden Sabers have a lot of muzzle flash in certain loads and that velocity rates have varied from lot to lot. Despite that it is a very good bullet design designed to expand at fairly low velocities. They also seem to be more available in my area than any other premium load(except Hydrashoks) so that's another plus. I certainly would take them over HydraShocks in any caliber or load.

[Dandapani]

I recently tested GS in 147 out of short barrel pistol fired into soaked phonebooks. Best expansion and similar penetration as all the "other" premium JHP. I prefered them over the Ranger-T LEO 147.

(I carry GS 165 in 40 in my G33/G27 hybrid!)

[Rigormootis]

I'll bring this thread back to life by stating that I carry Doubletap 165gr GSHP (10mm) on my g29 and based on what I've been reading, I may reconsider the GS in my 9mms (S&W 3913, G19) as I like the design, but IMHO, it seems to work better in .40cal/10mm and up size range. Currently, I favor 147gr WWB or 147gr Gold Dots for 9mm. I wouldn't sneeze at some 147gr Ranger-Ts, but I don't feel I'm undergunned in any way with what I have. ;c

[dmarker]

I've carried the 124 grain +p and found them to be super accurate.

[JC24]

In the past I carried Rem GS 124 gr. but decided to switch to and now carry the Rem GS 147 gr. In my experience, the 147 gr. version expands better and is more accurate. The 124 gr. version, though, is also excellent. To me, the GS is the round that feeds the best and, in general, is most reliable in my Glock 19. No malfunctions at all. The "competitors" it "defeated" in my informal (and expensive) tests were:

(a) Fed Hydrashok both 124 and 147 gr.
(b) Win Supreme SXT (it is a pitty no Ranger version has never ben available here in the Dominican Republic, where I live)
(c) Corbon 115 gr.+p and 125 gr.+p
(d) Win Silvertip both 115 gr. and 147 gr.
(d) And of course, the "cheap" jhps: Win USA 115 gr. jhp (which are quite good, though), Rem 115 gr. UMC jhp, Fiocchi 115 gr. jhp and S&B 115 gr. jhp.

Regards and best wishes.