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H&Klover#1
07-11-2004, 20:24
I just aquired a g-36 and took it to the range today. I shot a quick 300rds through it at a mere 12ft. This pistol like all my Glocks points so naturally. I kept both eyes open looking at the center of the target and I bring the gun into that focal point just before I squeeze the trigger. I got all my 300rds within a 6-7in area. Awesome gun. May I say the best Glock yet? When are we going to see a compact G-37?
digitalpaladin1
07-20-2004, 20:16
The 36 is the best CCW piece I've encountered since I've upgraded some parts.
3.5lbs Ghost connector
+0 Pearce finger extension
Jentra Glok Klip
XS Bigdot night sights
I'm thinking about doing the 3630 hybrid talked about on here and chop the frame.
I love my Glock. :)
Hydrilla
07-20-2004, 20:47
I hope I'm able to give as good of a report as you guys, my 36 is on the way to my FFL, should get it by the end of the week ~2
H&Klover#1
07-20-2004, 21:21
I too have added the +0 extention, "butt" plug, Mepro night sights, and extended slide catch. I have alot of experiance w/Glocks and have shot each model excluding the 25 & 28. I believe this is the best "bang for the buck". I have left the stock trigger connector in because of legal reasons (ex-L.E.O.). I am thinking of installing the 8# connector to safe-gaurd myself.
Rusty Shackleford
07-22-2004, 10:48
What legal reasons would those be?
Russell Lang
07-22-2004, 13:40
I ordered the extended slide lock for my G-36, and it locked the slide with each shot. Being left-handed, it wasn't my grip. I put the extended lock on my G-19 and it works fine. Where did you get yours, and how do you like it? I would like to try another one if it works.
H&Klover#1
07-22-2004, 17:13
Legally nothing is wrong with altering you firearm. If you have to defend your life and shoot someone it looks better to a jury of peers that arent as "in to" guns as you or maybe hate guns alltogether if you didnt alter you firearm with a lighter trigger that makes pressing the trigger depress more easily. You and I know better, but not everyone (judge, peers, ets.) understands this. That is what I ment.
H&Klover#1
07-22-2004, 17:27
I ordered the extended slide lock for my G-36, and it locked the slide with each shot. Being left-handed, it wasn't my grip. I put the extended lock on my G-19 and it works fine. Where did you get yours, and how do you like it? I would like to try another one if it works.
If you look at your stock 36 slide catch and compare it to the extended you will nitice the little tab that catches the mag. floor plate is 2x as long on the extended catch than on the stock one. All you need to do is figure out the angle and depth and of the stock catch and use a bench grinder or hand file to make the extended catch look like the stock catch. Glockmiester makes a extended catch strictly for the 36, I had a regular extended catch on hand and just ground it down with my grinder. Works like a champ. Before I ground it though, I installed it and like you figured out quickly that it doesnt work. I hope this helps
LDHunter
07-25-2004, 02:16
Another G36 convert here. I imagine that I'm preaching to the choir but the G36 is IMO the best defense/CCW pistol available at any price.
I haven't changed the trigger in mine for two reasons. The pistol was owned by a gunsmith before me that slicked the trigger up a bit so it's very smooth. Also I don't feel comfortable with having a light trigger on a CCW weapon. If I ever actually need it I expect my adrenaline to be flowing like the Amazon River and I don't want to touch off a round before I intend to. There's also the concern that I might be drawing it in an awkward situation and I don't want to worry about it getting hung up on clothing or something.
I have the 3lb Competition drop-in triggers on my G20 and G21 and sure do like them though but they're not CCW weapons for me....;f
I DO like my Meprolight Night sights though. They are the fixed variety and are plenty bright and easy to use day or night.
I don't see any need for an improvement for the slide release in my defense pistol but would like to hear more on why others want a different one.
Oh yeah... I settled on 185gr Golden Sabers handloaded to +P velocities for my defense round but there really aren't any bad choices for 45ACP because they come "pre-expanded"...~2 ~2~2 ~2~2 ~2
Once again... Hurray for the Little Big Dawg!!!:soap:
$bob$
Rusty Shackleford
07-25-2004, 13:56
Originally posted by H&Klover#1
Legally nothing is wrong with altering you firearm. If you have to defend your life and shoot someone it looks better to a jury of peers that arent as "in to" guns as you or maybe hate guns alltogether if you didnt alter you firearm with a lighter trigger that makes pressing the trigger depress more easily. You and I know better, but not everyone (judge, peers, ets.) understands this. That is what I ment.
I sure hope you're talking about a civil case and not a murder/manslaughter charge, because that would be one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard.
H&Klover#1
07-25-2004, 21:55
I sure hope you're talking about a civil case and not a murder/manslaughter charge, because that would be one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard
Huh? Do you need me to type this slower? I thought what I typed was pretty "cut and dry". I don't understand your reply. re-read what I said. Makes sence to me unless I am wrong and I am sure there is alot of people other than you to tell me different. I don't mean to be rude, but since you were I will recipricate. I don't know how to explain how a anti-gunner thinks. Have you ever been in a bad situation and killed someone in self defense? The court process is bad. Having a lighter trigger on your firearm is great for competition or target practice, but not for carry. why do you think most of the law enforcement agencies in FL. issue their Firearms? I know... They want to be responsible for them. There are 7 counties in FL. where the firearms are not issued. Every county inspects their deputies/police officers weapons 1-2x a year. Checking for alterations...Trigger jobs or any other thing that "looks bad in court". Now that is ridiculous... if that is what you ment.
rubijeep
07-28-2004, 01:45
any body here had trouble with the 36? when i first got mine it would stovepipe at least 4 rounds out of 6, no matter what ammo, magazine, cleaning, or anything. sent it back to glock and waited for 2 months and found out the frame had to be replaced. got it back and shot 2 mags through it to see if it would jam and it doesnt, but ive lost my confidence and carry my colt commander now. any similar experiences? comments?
digitspaw
07-28-2004, 02:02
I had 2 FTEs hanging up at 11 o'clock on the feed ramp but I modified my grip slightly and that took care of it. I have thre GLOCKs and never have had a problem. Had a POS Kel Tec P11 which went back to the factory for barrel slide replacement or alignment along with trigger job but was still so inaccurate that I unloaded it. Love my P43 BUG though! My trouble free experiences with all 3 of my GLOCKs keeps me buying more.;j
Nelybarg
07-28-2004, 02:03
my wife got me a 36 for fathers day and i was finally able to take it to the range this weekend. it shot great. i like it alot. i need to replace the stock sights on it. had no malfunctions what so ever. but the pistol is giving me some problems on the expended brass. now like i said. i experienced ZERO failures to feed or eject or anything like that. but when i examined the fired brass, the mouth on several were torn and severely dented. there was no rhyme or reason for this. some did it and some didnt. i'll attach some pics and hopefully someone can figure this out. TIA
Neil
digitspaw
07-28-2004, 02:04
If I could type as well as I THINK I shoot, that would have come out as a P32.;Q
digitspaw
07-28-2004, 02:10
Nelybarg;
I've never seen that on my Ranger brass out of my G36 or G30 but was wondering if this is all from the same batch number of ammo. I've shot about 2500 rounds collectively through both guns of Ranger SXT 230gr standard load and have never seen those depressions in my expended brass. Does it happen with any ammo you use.
P.S. A GLOCK armorer will be next to useless. Get some advice from the forum here and save yourself the run around from a parts replacer. ;Q
Nelybarg
07-28-2004, 02:27
digits. i've got 3 glocks. never seen this before ever. the ammo used in the 36 was standard 230 gr. white box as this was break in ammo. i shot maybe 250 rounds through it that day and approximately 50 were torn up as pictured. i'll take some more pics when i have better lighting. they're not just dented, they're actually torn. some of the cases were actually dented on both sides of the case mouth. i didnt seen any unusual nicks or dings in or around the ejection port of the pistol either. like i said, the gun ran fine, and i'm not really too worried about it since i dont reload. i just found it very odd that this happened.
Neil
Rusty Shackleford
07-28-2004, 07:15
Originally posted by H&Klover#1
I sure hope you're talking about a civil case and not a murder/manslaughter charge, because that would be one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard
Huh? Do you need me to type this slower? I thought what I typed was pretty "cut and dry". I don't understand your reply. re-read what I said. Makes sence to me unless I am wrong and I am sure there is alot of people other than you to tell me different. I don't mean to be rude, but since you were I will recipricate. I don't know how to explain how a anti-gunner thinks. Have you ever been in a bad situation and killed someone in self defense? The court process is bad. Having a lighter trigger on your firearm is great for competition or target practice, but not for carry. why do you think most of the law enforcement agencies in FL. issue their Firearms? I know... They want to be responsible for them. There are 7 counties in FL. where the firearms are not issued. Every county inspects their deputies/police officers weapons 1-2x a year. Checking for alterations...Trigger jobs or any other thing that "looks bad in court". Now that is ridiculous... if that is what you ment.
I apologize if I came off as being rude. It certainly wasn't meant to hurt anyone's feelings :) (ignoring your repeated use of the word "ment", for example, because the intent was not to be a prick) First off, let me say that I thought you were an *EX* Leo. If that is the case, what officers carry, or the fact that the county they work for may inspect their weapons and have policies regarding alterations, isn't really relevant since we're talking about civilian carry for self defense. Second - I assume we're talking about a justified self-defense shoot here, but one where the victim is unfortunate enough to end up a defendant in court. Under those circumstances, the jury is going to be told that it is the job of the prosecution to prove beyond any reasonable doubt that you were not acting in legal self defense. If the prosecution fails to do so, the jury is instructed that they must find you not guilty. I just don't see where trigger pull weight has any bearing on their ability to prove that you did, or did not act in self defense if you freely admit that you pulled the trigger intentionally. Obviously this is just *my* opinion, and I'm pretty likely to stick with it (as are you to yours), unless someone brings to my attention an example where trigger pull weight has been used to convict someone of murder, who admits they shot another person intentionally, and claims self defense. (non LEO, in a state with no silly laws about trigger weights)
^6
I feel the same way about "super powerful extra killing reloads" that people tell you not to carry because you'll lose your case becasue of it. Basically you should have a sound enough case in a self defense situation that it doesn't hinge on what bullets were in your gun and whether you had modified your gun in any way.
I sure would like to try a G-36 somday:cool:
Originally posted by okie
I sure would like to try a G-36 someday:cool:
Don't worry you will. One will find a way into your hand and then into your possession. They are addictive. If you don't want one STAY AWAY. ;) - 'ole joe :cool:
rubijeep
07-29-2004, 00:08
thats what my brass did in my 36. it would either dent it severely or split it when it did eject. i used magtech 230gr fmj and winchester whitebox 230gr fmj as well as federal hydra shoks and all would either jam, or bend the cases while spitting them out on my forehead or to the left. i got it back and like i said shot 2 mags and it worked but when i asked people what gun to buy to not worry about they said glock and this is what happened. also a friend of mine bought the 22 40 caliber and his would not pick up the next round out of the mag after firing. did this with both factory mags and 2 aftermarket with american eagle, magtech, and white box ammo. surely glock isnt slouching on us are they?
Nelybarg
07-29-2004, 01:11
rubijeep..as i said, i've got 3 glocks. my duty gun is a glock. i've been around them for a few years. this is the first time i've seen something like this happenening. dunno if glock is slouching or not. i'd just like clarification as to why this is happening with my 36.
Ive seen it on mine...
Last year I bought a 36. I had been shooting several heavy Kimbers, a USPc 45, and a full size USP 45 for quite some time.
I then took the 36 out and noticed the same brass damage...but the 36 functioned flawlessly.
I did notice that the 36 was quite a bit more snappy than the HK USP full size I was used to ...so I attributed it to me not being used to actually having to "grip" the pistol as firmly.
It doesnt matter how much you shoot, different guns require some adjustment. Concentrate a little extra on keeping the muzzle down on that 36 and see if it improves.
If not, then I have no idea what caused mine either...I think I just stopped looking at the brass.;)
rubijeep
07-29-2004, 23:47
nelybarg.. does your frame have short slide rails at the back or long? ive heard it makes a difference, but mine were short before and after the frame was replaced and it works now. by the way glad to talk to another commander owner. someone mentioned tightening up the grip on the 36 to stop the jams, but thats not an issue because the glock is fatter, taller, and longer than my officers model that i used to carry, but now that the glock came back it works good. if you have any issues i would call glock, they seemed to work hard to keep me pleased and it worked.
Nelybarg
07-29-2004, 23:57
dunno what kind of difference it makes, but the rear rails appear to be long. my commander is my fav. pistola. its an original 70 series, built in 73.
Neil
rubijeep
07-30-2004, 00:04
i love my commander too, except that 80 series firing system, wish i could find a good untouched 70 series commander or government in blue. by untouched i mean no upgrades, just shot. good luck with your 36, theyre good guns if you can get used the different feel
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