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paltic
07-12-2004, 19:27
mga pare ano-ano po ba ang advice na pwedeng ibigay dito sa pinsan ko na may Glock 30:

palagi na siya pumuputok using LEAD reloaded ammos
-using brass cases na halos 10x na nai-reload.

im worried baka kako matsambahan ng KB;-(
...i'll copy & paste everything na isu-suggest ninyo. para mabasa niya sa text. tnx in advance.:cool:

jasonub
07-12-2004, 19:50
sell it and buy an s_i;f

Kidding aside, as long as he does not fire more than 100 rounds it will be not that risky. but its still risky.

as for the brass, it should not be shot too much on an unsupported chamber, since its a 45 maybe 10 reloads are ok. but again still risky.

best advice is buy a new supported chambered land and groove barrel form barsto, etc. then shoot till you drop with lead rounds. as for the brass, shoot till you see a small crack on the brass and then dump it.

if he insists in using his old barrel then go for teflon, plated, or fmj and do be careful on the brass since a small crack on the base will produce the dreaded kaboom and goodby glock 30

mc_oliver
07-12-2004, 19:59
With the 45 I can only offer 2 suggestions:

1. Be careful with double charged ammo, so know your load.

2. Make sure you scrub your barrel well after every range session when using lead.

;)

ReccaH
07-12-2004, 20:09
Let me start. Aside sa usual tender loving care like making sure it's always clean, make it a point not to use wadcutter ammo(i think). Yun bang ammo na meron shoulder on the base of the head. It gets jammed kasi with the ejecting case. Napaaway ako sa stronghand because of that. hehe

Its not wise also to use very old bullet brass shell. Mine was not even brass coz its silver from the "baul"(old treasure chest) of my dear father. I found that the hard way.. :(

Aside from that i hope your cousin enjoys it like i do. cheers! ;z

mc_oliver
07-12-2004, 20:39
Originally posted by ReccaH
Its not wise also to use very old bullet brass shell. Mine was not even brass coz its silver from the "baul"(old treasure chest) of my dear father. I found that the hard way.. :(

Listen to Reccah even though it seems he's downplaying his experience with his G30. ;f

Btw, Reccah, musta bul storm mo? Solid pa rin ba, how many rounds na?

batangueno
07-12-2004, 21:07
Here's a pic of the case failure that Reccah's G30 survived. No damage to the gun, although i think he did have a federal barrel installed. Ewan ko lang kung anong nangyari kung naka stock barrel 'yon.

http://img11.photobucket.com/albums/v33/batangueno/case_failure.jpg

revo
07-12-2004, 21:19
Replace the barrel immediately with a fully supported barrel usinhg conventional rifling.

crispin
07-12-2004, 23:32
nabasa ko yung mga naka post regarding sa glock 30 and it got me thinking...eh kung ibebenta namin mag-kano na ba bentahan ng glock 30 ngayon?? knowing what i know now, me bibili pa ba nun??thanks;Q

batangueno
07-13-2004, 00:04
Originally posted by crispin
nabasa ko yung mga naka post regarding sa glock 30 and it got me thinking...eh kung ibebenta namin mag-kano na ba bentahan ng glock 30 ngayon?? knowing what i know now, me bibili pa ba nun??thanks;Q
Post mo dito yung asking price...kita mo marami pa rin interasado. :)

kristiansen
07-13-2004, 00:54
ah oo nga.how much?

jasonub
07-13-2004, 01:02
he he he will sell it and get an s_i;f

doctabako
07-13-2004, 01:13
Lead and old brass cases? in a stock barreled Glock? He's asking for trouble with a capital KB :)

07-13-2004, 05:40
Which caliber is recommended here in the Phils if you purchase a Glock? Definitely not .40 diba? We shoot a lot of reloads here kasi since mahal ang factory. Pati ba .45 hindi rin advisable? (G21s and G30s?)

ReccaH
07-13-2004, 08:09
Sumikat na naman G30 ko! hehe. The gun still works fine up to now and honestly was amazed that nothing bad happened to my gun. Nevermind my hand...

MC_O - I'm still in love with my Bul Storm even with the falls(plural) hehe. Primarily because of its nice trigger pull.:cool:

deenoh
07-13-2004, 09:38
Originally posted by ian_g
Which caliber is recommended here in the Phils if you purchase a Glock? Definitely not .40 diba? We shoot a lot of reloads here kasi since mahal ang factory. Pati ba .45 hindi rin advisable? (G21s and G30s?)

If you ask Judge or Saruman, they'll tell you to get a .40 S(wift)&W(icked) ;f ;f If you ask ppts or homogenizer or even me, we'll tell you to get a 9mm ;f But its really up to you and what caliber you feel comfortable with.

kristiansen
07-13-2004, 17:38
my G22 works just fine.no jams,no FTF,no hiccups ,no nothing.its flawless! get something in 40 cal.:) Saruman,back me up here;f

JuDGe
07-13-2004, 18:18
For defense and carry...I'd go with a .40S&W Anytime.... Everytime! :cool:

For IPSC Production.... well that's another story.... ;f

JuDGe
07-13-2004, 18:20
Originally posted by kristiansen
my G22 works just fine.no jams,no FTF,no hiccups ,no nothing.its flawless! get something in 40 cal.:)

Must be your premium factory loads and power-puff reloads! ;f ;f ;f

Alexii
07-13-2004, 19:07
Originally posted by ian_g
Which caliber is recommended here in the Phils if you purchase a Glock? Definitely not .40 diba? We shoot a lot of reloads here kasi since mahal ang factory. Pati ba .45 hindi rin advisable? (G21s and G30s?)

That depends on a lot of factors which includes, but not linmited to-- the size of your hands, the intended or projected use for the pistol, and the availability of your chosen caliber.

That said, I would personally consider a 9mm Glock to be the most versatile choice.

YMMV

9MX
07-13-2004, 19:43
Originally posted by JuDGe
Must be your premium factory loads and power-puff reloads! ;f ;f ;f

hehehe ;z

mc_oliver
07-13-2004, 20:08
Originally posted by ian_g
Which caliber is recommended here in the Phils if you purchase a Glock? Definitely not .40 diba? We shoot a lot of reloads here kasi since mahal ang factory. Pati ba .45 hindi rin advisable? (G21s and G30s?)
Again, just be careful with your loads and be thorough in inspecting for lead build-up and you'll be okay. An aftermarket barrel is a cheaper alternative relative to a new gun. So that route may be more cost-effective for you.

Of course, there is absolutely no reason NOT to buy a new gun if you can afford it. ;f

crispin
07-13-2004, 20:44
well to tell you guys the truth i have no idea kung magkano na bentahan and what is fair,but can you give me an idea for the price of the glock 30?? kung baga eh meet tayo sa gitna yung patas ba ..... preyong magkaibigan, and also ok ba na ipalit ko ay h s 2000 na 9mm?? my friend has been egging me for days on buying one kapalit ng glock, well for one reason is the price mas mura siya kaysa sa glock, but for any other reason like performance or durabilty wala akong alam. hope you can help me guys...thanks :)

jasonub
07-13-2004, 20:58
glock 30 around 40t second hand 35 and its a steal. exchange for a hs2000 i dont think thats fair for you. exchange for a colt 1911 second hand that seems reasonable.

9MX
07-13-2004, 20:58
Originally posted by crispin
well to tell you guys the truth i have no idea kung magkano na bentahan and what is fair,but can you give me an idea for the price of the glock 30?? kung baga eh meet tayo sa gitna yung patas ba ..... preyong magkaibigan, and also ok ba na ipalit ko ay h s 2000 na 9mm?? my friend has been egging me for days on buying one kapalit ng glock, well for one reason is the price mas mura siya kaysa sa glock, but for any other reason like performance or durabilty wala akong alam. hope you can help me guys...thanks :)

imho, you'd be better off with a g17. i heard its difficult to secure accessories for the hs 2000 here in da pilipins:)

batangueno
07-13-2004, 21:51
You're going to let go of your G30 for an HS2000?!!!;L

tigra
07-13-2004, 22:21
Originally posted by 9MX
imho, you'd be better off with a g17. i heard its difficult to secure accessories for the hs 2000 here in da pilipins:)

Korek ka dyan sir!

deenoh
07-13-2004, 23:05
Originally posted by crispin
and also ok ba na ipalit ko ay h s 2000 na 9mm?? my friend has been egging me for days on buying one kapalit ng glock, well for one reason is the price mas mura siya kaysa sa glock

Vino was telling us during the gun show that his friend who bought an HS2000 has been waiting for a year already for an extra magazine. Until now wala pa. The supplier doesnt have a definite date when the accessories will arrive.

mc_oliver
07-13-2004, 23:10
Pang defense ba 'to dre? If so, the G30 is more than enough. As for getting an HS2000 and letting go of the glock, ehhh,... magko-chorus ako sa choir about not doing it.

But if you intend to get one for competition, the G17 or G35 is a good choice. Same platform for your serious and fun gun. ;)

Pero kung gusto mo talaga bago'bg baril at iba ang platform, intay ka sa next gun show. Hopefully, armscor will again offer their line of 1911's at a ridiculously low price. Yan unti-unti mo'ng buoin at araw-araw pede mo kalikutin. :)

Alexii
07-13-2004, 23:12
Originally posted by batangueno
You're going to let go of your G30 for an HS2000?!!!;L

Batangueno's right. Stick with your G30. I love mine. Give HS2000 a few more years and see if it'll hold its value compared to your Glock.

jmy
07-14-2004, 00:05
Originally posted by crispin
nabasa ko yung mga naka post regarding sa glock 30 and it got me thinking...eh kung ibebenta namin mag-kano na ba bentahan ng glock 30 ngayon?? knowing what i know now, me bibili pa ba nun??thanks;Q

I sold my almost brand new(500 Rounds) Glock 30 for 30,000.00 Pesos).Included with the gun was an after-market Bar-Sto barrel,3 magazines,TR Graham Trigger Kit,and Heinie Straight 8 Night Sights.

jmy

jmy
07-14-2004, 00:07
Originally posted by ian_g
Which caliber is recommended here in the Phils if you purchase a Glock? Definitely not .40 diba? We shoot a lot of reloads here kasi since mahal ang factory. Pati ba .45 hindi rin advisable? (G21s and G30s?)

Most handsome people still prefer the 45 ACP.

jmy

JuDGe
07-14-2004, 00:17
Since we're at it, here's a pic of my G22 .40Swift&Wicked sporting an Arredondo Mag Ext (c/o JMY). Thanks a lot El Prez! ;f

And the SUAVE Guys will go for the .40S&W! :cool:

http://img40.photobucket.com/albums/v122/gaston770/Dsc02533.jpg

07-14-2004, 03:40
Ok lang ba mag .40S&W dito sa phils? Medyo delikado kasi I shoot lead reloads a lot. Medyo mahal kasi ang factory ammo diba? Sa .45 na Glocks may similar problems ba like sa .40 when firing lead reloads?

jmy
07-14-2004, 04:19
Originally posted by Alexii
Batangueno's right. Stick with your G30. I love mine. Give HS2000 a few more years and see if it'll hold its value compared to your Glock.

Ditto.Stick with the Glock 30.In fact,I sold all of my Glocks except for one of my Glock 30s.

jmy

kristiansen
07-14-2004, 04:44
Originally posted by JuDGe
Must be your premium factory loads and power-puff reloads! ;f ;f ;f

absolutely correct brother!;c how come i missed your party?;Q

jasonub
07-14-2004, 05:16
Originally posted by ian_g
Ok lang ba mag .40S&W dito sa phils? Medyo delikado kasi I shoot lead reloads a lot. Medyo mahal kasi ang factory ammo diba? Sa .45 na Glocks may similar problems ba like sa .40 when firing lead reloads?
buy a new barrel with conventional rifling and a supported chamber. to make sure so that you wont have problems in whatever caliber you choose

Eye Cutter
07-14-2004, 06:32
For defense, the trend in the US is to go for the bigger calibers, .40 and .45 cal. For carry, the best ang subcompacts. Very soft shooting ang G30 even with full power factory ammo.

But if you'll get only 1 pistol, the full size or the compact models are the most versatile. Your personal preference in caliber.

Eye Cutter
07-14-2004, 06:33
JuDGe: Kasya pa ba yan sa IPSC Box?

JuDGe
07-14-2004, 06:43
Originally posted by Eye Cutter
JuDGe: Kasya pa ba yan sa IPSC Box?

;J ;J maliit yata yung ipsc box sa gunclub namin eh! ;J ;J

I might also consider getting the +3 mag ext. Designed to meet the ipsc box rule daw!

http://www.arredondoaccessories.com/images/GLK-3.jpg

paltic
07-14-2004, 18:08
after several bottles of beer...nagdecide na siya......P 45,00 for his Glock 30, 2 mags, orig Glock holster/pouch.........50k nya nakuha ito...200 rds pa lang naiiputok...any bidders?:cool:

crispin
07-16-2004, 19:15
salamat sa mga advice nyo with regards to my glock 30 and with me buying an H S 2000 much appreciated guys!!! it spared me lot of stress he he...hope i can meet you someday and thank you personally. guess ill stick it up with my glock 30( biglang kuminang ulit ang G 30 ko )anyway one of the great ideas given to me came from Homogenizer, bili ng murang 1911 na armscor at butingtingin araw-araw...THANKS ULIT SA INYO ^c ^c ^c ^c

crispin
07-16-2004, 19:22
sorry for the boo boo it was Mc Oliver who advice me on buying a 1911 armscor at kalikutin araw araw..thanks ulit

Eye Cutter
07-16-2004, 19:25
crispin: yeah, keep your G30 and build a custom 1911. Hi-cap .40 or a Single Stack .45cal or in .40S&W. Mas okay pa talaga magbuo ng 1911.

About the HS2000, huwag na lang muna. Pag marami na parts dito sa Pinas, pwede na siguro i-consider.

crispin
07-16-2004, 19:44
thanks eye cutter you have added one more option to my mind a cal 45.Hi Cap mmmm maka-utang nga sa nanay ko.;f THANKS AGAIN

nyordak17
07-17-2004, 06:43
Originally posted by jmy
I sold my almost brand new(500 Rounds) Glock 30 for 30,000.00 Pesos).Included with the gun was an after-market Bar-Sto barrel,3 magazines,TR Graham Trigger Kit,and Heinie Straight 8 Night Sights.

jmy

jmy, how much naman mo nabili yan nung brand new pa???

jmy
07-17-2004, 07:18
Originally posted by nyordak17
jmy, how much naman mo nabili yan nung brand new pa???

I bought the gun from Gemini.I don't fully remember if the price then,was 42,000.00 Pesos or 47,000.00 Pesos.
THANKS.

jmy