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mc_oliver
07-26-2004, 21:50
If anybody is interested, contact Col. Bayang at 840-1362 for details.

Complete 5" upper:
1. Caspian 38super slide
2. Schuemann 6-port hybrid barrel
3. Bo-mar

Thanks.

jundeleon
07-27-2004, 06:45
Can the barrel/slide assembly be used with a para ordnance frame?

ogiebb
07-27-2004, 07:55
Originally posted by mc_oliver
If anybody is interested, contact Col. Bayang at 840-1362 for details.

Complete 5" upper:
1. Caspian 38super slide
2. Schuemann 6-port hybrid barrel
3. Bo-mar

Thanks.


uy optima na lang modified gun na yan sir..he he kumusta ang OPen gun project?:cool: :cool:

mc_oliver
07-27-2004, 23:51
Originally posted by jundeleon
Can the barrel/slide assembly be used with a para ordnance frame?
Sorry, dre, I didn't get the type of cut the barrel has. Try calling the Col. and inquire from him. Thanks.

uy optima na lang modified gun na yan sir..he he kumusta ang OPen gun project?
Oo nga ser eh, kung di lang naka port yung barrel kinuha ko na. Unfortunately, a schuemann barrel here that requires a slide cut-out is very expensive, so 'di ko rin mabibili. Slow progress open gun ko. Nung una gusto ko comp na agad and run it sa 40cal. Now para'ng gusto ko na i-super...haay...decisions..decisions...;f

batangueno
07-28-2004, 00:39
Originally posted by mc_oliver
...haay...decisions..decisions...;f \
Ako nga eh hindi na makapagtrabaho at makatulog kakaisip sa open gun na 'yan...hehe;f Baka nagagalit na nga si Chuck Bradley at Bob Londrigan sa kakatanong ko. ;f

mc_oliver
07-28-2004, 02:52
Originally posted by batangueno
\
Ako nga eh hindi na makapagtrabaho at makatulog kakaisip sa open gun na 'yan...hehe;f Baka nagagalit na nga si Chuck Bradley at Bob Londrigan sa kakatanong ko. ;f
Napaisip mo nga ako dun sa ginawa mo eh...;);f

Eye Cutter
07-28-2004, 05:56
hehehe... bagong project na naman!!! kelan na naman kaya matatapos ito?

;K

Eye Cutter
07-28-2004, 06:08
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v341/aagustin11563/100_1230.jpg

ogiebb
07-28-2004, 08:20
Fair warning lang once you go to the dark side mahirap na bumalik sa iba...he he kaya paminsan minsan lang ako mag open e;f ;f

doctabako
07-28-2004, 08:52
Why do I feel that everybody's going open...Maybe I should...Nah, I think I'll just shoot the hell out of my standard/limited gun first before I finally take the plunge to the dark side..if ogiebb is right, there may be no turning back;f

mc_oliver
07-28-2004, 19:14
Originally posted by Eye Cutter
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v341/aagustin11563/100_1230.jpg
Doc naman please, wag kang mang-inggit ng ganyan...;f;f

Yang isang comp mo akin na, huhulug-hulugan ko na lang...hehe..;f

Eye Cutter
07-28-2004, 19:35
yung bul m5 slide ko meron ng hybrid cut. pwede pa kaya ito gamitin sa barrel na naka cone comp? magkano ba slide ng armscor (9mm)?

ogiebb
07-28-2004, 21:13
Originally posted by Eye Cutter
yung bul m5 slide ko meron ng hybrid cut. pwede pa kaya ito gamitin sa barrel na naka cone comp? magkano ba slide ng armscor (9mm)?


doc,

ayaw mo nun may instant slide lighthening ka na.he he he .doc atras ng april or may uwi ko. ayaw payagan daughter ko umabsent masyado matagal daw ..taragis..tsk

batangueno
07-28-2004, 22:08
Originally posted by Eye Cutter
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v341/aagustin11563/100_1230.jpg
Konti na lang pala kailan mo Doc, pag nakita mo na yung Cmore mo ayos na 'yan.^c

mc_oliver
07-28-2004, 22:09
Originally posted by Eye Cutter
yung bul m5 slide ko meron ng hybrid cut. pwede pa kaya ito gamitin sa barrel na naka cone comp? magkano ba slide ng armscor (9mm)?
So para'ng ganito yan Doc?
http://egw-guns.com/gallery/pics/STI-Open3.jpg

batangueno
07-28-2004, 22:13
Originally posted by doctabako
Why do I feel that everybody's going open...Maybe I should...
Turn to the Dark Side DocT, it is your destiny. You are a Jedi, you WILL convert to the Dark Side. There is NO escape....hehe;f ;f

Eye Cutter
07-29-2004, 01:18
mc_o: hindi e. yung cut ng slide hanggang dulo. para sa schuemann hybrid barrel

mc_oliver
07-29-2004, 03:04
Originally posted by Eye Cutter
mc_o: hindi e. yung cut ng slide hanggang dulo. para sa schuemann hybrid barrel
Ah, okay. So mapapa-schuemann ka pala talaga nyan. However, I've seen the work of Balolong on M. Cay and J. Sy's modified guns. Parang naka hybrid schuemann sila pero sleeve-type underneath a regular thin barrel, cost is about 6K. That's probably one option para magamit mo slide mo. Kaso Armscor 9mm slide is only about 3.4K. And that is probably a more practical alternative.

I-try mo na balak mo, para malaman natin kung pede...;);f hehe

doctabako
07-29-2004, 03:37
Originally posted by batangueno
Turn to the Dark Side DocT, it is your destiny. You are a Jedi, you WILL convert to the Dark Side. There is NO escape....hehe;f ;f

NOOooooooooooo;f ;f ;f

jasonub
07-29-2004, 05:56
from an open shooter.

-there is less challenge going open, you basically hit the target everytime


My opinion, so what lets do open;f

But nauna ang m16 project ko;P

ogiebb
07-29-2004, 08:54
Originally posted by mc_oliver
So para'ng ganito yan Doc?
http://egw-guns.com/gallery/pics/STI-Open3.jpg


mco,

sa yo ba yan?? ok na pala e. small popple holes na lang rock en roll na.he he..ganda talaga ng EGW na comp.;f ;f

ogiebb
07-29-2004, 09:00
Originally posted by doctabako
NOOooooooooooo;f ;f ;f


Resistance is Futile...http://www.hunt101.com/img/210559.gif (http://www.hunt101.com/?p=210559&c=500&z=1)

doctabako
07-29-2004, 11:18
Originally posted by ogiebb
Resistance is Futile...http://www.hunt101.com/img/210559.gif (http://www.hunt101.com/?p=210559&c=500&z=1)

;z cool smilie ogiebb;f

JuDGe
07-29-2004, 19:36
Tigra.... post mo naman yung open blaster mo! ;f

mc_oliver
07-29-2004, 19:45
Originally posted by ogiebb
mco,

sa yo ba yan?? ok na pala e. small popple holes na lang rock en roll na.he he..ganda talaga ng EGW na comp.;f ;f
I wish dre. I just pulled the image from EGW's site. ;f

from an open shooter.
-there is less challenge going open, you basically hit the target everytime
True. In my last match, I walked away with 1 mike and a no-shoot despite the gun problems. A new record for me kasi usually the minimum for me is 6 mikes for a 4-stage match. ;f;f

However, with open kasi, the objective is no longer about hitting the targets (well, you should still be able to do so.) It's now more about refinements in your techniques with no or very minimal wasted motion. This pushes your performance a notch higher to be able to survive and be competitive. And I'm hoping it'll translate back to iron sights shooting. But I'm not sure that I'd be going back to iron sights anytime soon.;) hehe

Eye Cutter
07-30-2004, 00:20
guys, i need your input and comments about my slide and barrel set-up

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v341/aagustin11563/STI-Open3.jpg

mc_oliver
07-30-2004, 00:34
Doc, all of the talk about measurements, from the back of the comp to the center of the first hole, seems to be at 0.500". Next hole, center to center from the previous hole, is 0.475". Hole size is about 3/16".

Yung brazos hole (popple hole?) is smaller about 2-3mm yata. Sa Gallery forum dun kay BE, mey mga naka cone comp na mey butas sa cone portion na.

Eye Cutter
07-30-2004, 00:41
ayos! at least on-track ang project natin! hehehe. hindi ko pa rin makita ang c-more ko! naknangwet! san ko ba naitago yun???

ogiebb
07-30-2004, 05:46
doc tama na yung dalawang butas lang. masyado ka na nag bleed ng gases pag tatlo..you also have to make the comp work..tama na yang maliliit na mga butas or popple holes good luck sa susunod na project^c ^c ^c

jasonub
07-30-2004, 06:02
kaingit! ill post my m16 picture here when im done, i dont know if it will be an m4, a sniper rifle, a spr. oh well why not all 3;P

Eye Cutter
07-30-2004, 07:14
came from the range this afternoon and talked to the gunsmith. pwede naman pala kahit meron hybrid cut, pangit nga lang tignan.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v341/aagustin11563/100_1233.jpg


so from Mc_O's measurements, the popple holes will look something like this...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v341/aagustin11563/100_1232.jpg

Eye Cutter
07-30-2004, 07:37
the open gun will start out with only a cone comp and the popple holes to come later as needed, correct?

ogiebb
07-30-2004, 08:08
doc,

why not shoot it first? pag nagwawala na yung dot then its time to put some holes ..baka magustuhan mo yung putok kahit walang pop holes..;)

Eye Cutter
07-30-2004, 09:27
ogie: naku, matagal pa bago mabuo itong open gun project na ito! nasa planning stage pa rin hanggang ngayon. don't know yet what frame i'm going to use. most probably an SPS from PB

mc_oliver
07-30-2004, 23:09
Baka eto doc makatulong. ;)

http://www.brazoscustom.com/Images/ms3.jpg

9MX
07-31-2004, 07:49
very strong the dark side's force in this thread...

must avoid....must....:drool:

julianz
07-31-2004, 10:12
have to avoid the dark side.... nagtatampo na asawa ko: minsan nga lang daw ako mauwe eh pistol pa ang hinihimas ko..eh kung makaipon ako ng pang open baka naman iwan na ko.

batangueno
08-01-2004, 00:43
An exact same barrel from the picture McO posted costs $525. Tinanong ko kay Chuck (Brazos) kung magkano, STI Trubor barrel pala 'yan and the cost for adding the poppleholes is $200. Ang mahal ng open gun...kukulangin pa rin yung dalawang baril na binebenta ko...hehe;f

Eye Cutter
08-01-2004, 05:01
batangueno: sino si chuck? diba sya mayari ng shooters' connection? sino naman si bob londrigan? ang gastos pala.

ayoko na yata mag-open, bilin mo nalang kaya yung barrel and comp ko! hehehe ;f

Maskara
08-01-2004, 13:51
(ayoko na yata mag-open, bilin mo nalang kaya yung barrel and comp ko! hehehe )

Doc T, may the force be with you!! but, the dark side...

batangueno
08-01-2004, 20:03
Originally posted by Eye Cutter
batangueno: sino si chuck? diba sya mayari ng shooters' connection? sino naman si bob londrigan? ang gastos pala.

Mali ako, si Bob Londrigan pala nag-quote sa akin nung barrel, sya gunsmith and owner ng Brazos Custom. Si Chuck Bradley naman may-ari ng Shooters Connection.
Originally posted by Eye Cutter
ayoko na yata mag-open, bilin mo nalang kaya yung barrel and comp ko! hehehe
Ayoko, kailangan magbuo ka rin ng may kasama kami ni McO...hehe;f

Eye Cutter
08-02-2004, 00:04
sige na nga, pero matagal na project ito! hehehe

batangueno
08-04-2004, 03:07
Here's more info regarding the hybrid holes. From Chuck,

We use 1/8" holes(.125) place them at least 1/2 inch (.500) from the end of the rifling. And place them about 1/4 inch(.250) apart. On a 5 inch gun I would do 3.

batangueno
08-04-2004, 03:13
Maskara, ang ganda ng baril mo. :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v33/batangueno/9major1.jpg

McO, paggawa mo kaya yung style nya sa serendipity para hindi maipit yung basyo.

mc_oliver
08-04-2004, 03:29
Originally posted by batangueno
McO, paggawa mo kaya yung style nya sa serendipity para hindi maipit yung basyo.
Hehe, yeah, Maskara, nice blaster. Some q's on your gun:

1. Does the cmore wiggle side to side (dot oscillation) when you thinned down the legs? Did you do the same on the left side?

2. I noticed your comp is cut fully to the side with only 2 chambers. Is this effective? Does it have holes on top of the barrel? Care to share your load?

3. Is this in 9mm?

Thanks and appreciate your response. :)

ogiebb
08-04-2004, 07:22
mga sir, ingat sa pag putol ng legs ng serendipity that model is weak enough by itself. lalo na sa mga may kulay na c more madali mag crack ang screw holes at legs..


Maskara ,

nice blaster

Eye Cutter
07-16-2005, 04:59
dinala ko na open gun project ko sa PB. Si Churchill na ang mag fit ng slide, frame and barrel. it's been a year since i started with this project! kulang pa rin small parts.

i only have 1 140mm magazine. Need to get at least 2 more!

Eye Cutter
07-19-2005, 18:44
mco, batangueno, ogiebb: i need specs for the compensator design. i need the sizes oand dimensions of the chambers and ports. meron kayo alam?

mc_oliver
07-19-2005, 20:16
Gayahin mo na lang yung kay Paul. ;)

jasonub
07-19-2005, 20:40
heres the deal.

best comp for me for my gun without hibrid holes is the egw 7 port comp. 150 dollars.(george said i should maximize the holes on top since my setup wont have hybrid holes)

same response from beddel custom(129 dollars comp)

STI S2 comp sells at 142 dollars

fitting here is 3500.

metrillo is having some quality problems according to some shooters thus pass ako sa offer niya 10,000.

tony olinares charges 12500 for comp and fitting(2weeks turnaround)

egw is selling a comp 3 chamber up none on the side. for 100 dollars.

fitting of comp here is 3500
now you decide!

mc_oliver
07-19-2005, 20:48
Originally posted by jasonub
now you decide!
Dapat nag production ka na lang, mas simple. ;f

Chie
07-19-2005, 21:14
sir mco,

pm sent.

chie :)

Eye Cutter
07-19-2005, 22:44
masisira ulo ko kaka-research ng open gun!

tignan ko muna mga comps available locally. kung hindi maganda, i'll think about the imported ones.

batangueno
07-19-2005, 23:18
Doc, may nagbebenta ng Brazos comp sa BE, $100 lang. Kunin mo na!!!

mc_oliver
07-19-2005, 23:46
Originally posted by Eye Cutter
masisira ulo ko kaka-research ng open gun!

tignan ko muna mga comps available locally. kung hindi maganda, i'll think about the imported ones.
Revo na lang tayo! ;f

gunfool
07-20-2005, 00:14
Originally posted by Eye Cutter
masisira ulo ko kaka-research ng open gun!

tignan ko muna mga comps available locally. kung hindi maganda, i'll think about the imported ones. ;z ;z ;z . Doc, tama sabi ko ke misis na di lang ako nasisiraan ng ulo dahil sa baril. joke...

jasonub
07-20-2005, 05:31
eto pa pang pagulo!

link to comps (http://www.gansguns.com/MAINCOMPS.html)

Eye Cutter
07-20-2005, 05:44
waaaahhhh!!!!!!^8 ;5 ^2

jasonub
07-20-2005, 06:53
price comparison. mas mahal si metrillo on some parts against orig from egw or dawson(us dollars)

METRILLO

TRIGGER 1000 ----------- 50EGW ----25DAWSON
MS Housing aluminum 1350 7 STI plastic(406
MAg well 4500----------------50EGW (2900)-------- 50DAWSON
comp 10000---------------- 100EGW dollars(5800+3.5tinstallation)
guide rod 1200_______ 21EGW ------ 24DAWSON
slide racker 1500--------- 25EGW ------ 40DAWSON
cmore blast shield 1300------