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My buddy is about to buy one of these from another guy that is down on his luck. Are there any issues with this weapon? Recalls? Thanks for any help.
Only thing to check out is if it's an 'E' series serial number. If it is, he may want to call Glock to see if it's part of the 'frame recall'.
Harlequin
08-03-2004, 12:41
Originally posted by rappa29
Only thing to check out is if it's an 'E' series serial number. If it is, he may want to call Glock to see if it's part of the 'frame recall'.
You mean "upgrade" right? ;f Glock ;Q never issued a "recall."
You mean "upgrade" right?
Oh yeah. My bad. ;)
Elmstreet
08-03-2004, 19:52
They point well, shoot well, are reliable and accurate. It takes a little practice to hold a group at 25 yards or shoot steel plates with one, due to the short barrel. Once you get used to it they are pretty decent little pistols.
Doug in Ak
08-03-2004, 23:54
Originally posted by sgtb
My buddy is about to buy one of these from another guy that is down on his luck. Are there any issues with this weapon? Recalls? Thanks for any help.
The only issue I've had with mine is I go through a lot more ammo now. I love my G36!! This gun is just plain, fun to shoot. Perhaps you shoud get one also. Hate to see your buddy have all the fun! ;a
Originally posted by rappa29
Only thing to check out is if it's an 'E' series serial number. If it is, he may want to call Glock to see if it's part of the 'frame recall'.
Wow, thanks for the info. I just called Glock and they said that my new 36 IS part of the voluntary frame upgrade. They are ordering the frame from Austria and it should be here in about 6 weeks or so, and they would call me when it came in and give me further instructions at that point. The tech said there is less than a 1% chance of any problem, and it would be of no danger to the shooter or bystanders. What happens is that the frame may crack at the rear left rail, and I wouldn't know anything happened until I cleaned it and saw the crack.
She said it was ok to shoot until then.
Thanks again for pointing out the upgrade information.
Ralph :)
Originally posted by rgeho
What happens is that the frame may crack at the rear left rail, .
She said it was ok to shoot until then.Ralph :)
The right one can also break off. Just so you can see what we went through (I had a G19 and a G23 that had to be 'upgraded') here is a pic of a G31 that I believe had both break off and of a G32 that had one.
I apologize to the two GTrs who's weapons these were for using their pics w/o their permission. I copied them for my own info and did not keep track of the originators. They are both better photographers than I am so you can benefit from their handiwork and experience. - 'ole joe :cool:
Let me try the pics again alone. ;f
At least I got the G32 on there. Let me try the G31. I quit! I lost the one I had. Born 30 years too soon. - j.
Originally posted by JoeG19
Last but not least!
Man that damage looks terrible. Was anyone hurt? What do you folks think? Is it safe to fire my G36 until the new frame comes from Austria, like the Glock tech said or not?
Ralph ;P
Rusty Shackleford
08-04-2004, 17:00
You should be fine shooting it until the upgrade arrives.
Originally posted by rgeho
Man that damage looks terrible. Was anyone hurt? Ralph ;P
No one was hurt. Both had been shooting their Glocks on the range and did not know that the rear rail(s) had failed till they went to clean their weapons. There were quite a few rails that failed (I think) that led to the upgrade. Every model was affected. I kept a close watch on GT during that time and don't remember of reading of a single FTF because of this problem. I sent my G19 in to be upgraded and continued to shoot my G23 till I got the 19 back. The 23 had developed a crack in the left rear rail by the time I sent it back.
Glock had both of mine back w/i 10 days of me sending them in. They were great. Your serial number will be the same but with a '1' prefix. - 'ole joe :cool:
Updated 04Aug04 -2036 - FYI here is the GT info. Go to the 3 letter E Series:
http://glocktalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=237800&highlight=Glock+frame+recall
Thanks for the info, JoeG19, and for the serial number link.
I think I will be shooting my 23 and my 27 a lot more though.
Ralph
Originally posted by rgeho
Thanks for the info
You're welcome. - 'ole joe :cool:
Originally posted by Ruprect
You should be fine shooting it until the upgrade arrives.
Thanks for the information.
Ralph :)
Originally posted by Elmstreet
They point well, shoot well, are reliable and accurate. It takes a little practice to hold a group at 25 yards or shoot steel plates with one, due to the short barrel. Once you get used to it they are pretty decent little pistols.
Elmstreet: Just FYI, I read in another post somewhere very recently that one of our GTrs had a new 36 that had about 100 rounds through it. He took it to a steel challenge match and placed third. I thought that was pretty good. I have more than 100 rounds through mine and couldn't hope to match that. It is nice to know that the 36 will do that. - 'ole joe :cool:
Edited 6Aug04 @ 1127: Elmstreet: Oooops! That was you, I was quoting. I just went to see if I could link that post and discovered my failing mind and worked again! Congratulations, from forgetful. ;4
LDHunter
08-06-2004, 12:29
Let me be sure I understand this....
If my serial number is prefixed by a 1 (numeral one) then my frame has already been sent in for a frame recall?
eg 1EVRxxxUS is a Glock 36 that has been in for frame recall.... Right?;P
$bob$
Originally posted by LDHunter
Let me be sure I understand this....
If my serial number is prefixed by a 1 (numeral one) then my frame has already been sent in for a frame recall? eg 1EVRxxxUS is a Glock 36 that has been in for frame recall.... Right?;P $bob$
If you have a G36 with a 1 prefix it is an upgrade. My G19 came back with the same SN except it had a 1 prefix...same for my G23. Both of those I've sold.
I was looking for a G36 and my dealer said he had two. A new one and a used one in very good condition. I went to look at them both. The used one was a ExxSN. The new one was not. I bought the new one because I didn't want to go through the drill again. However, if the used 36 had been an upgrade with the 1 prefix, I would have bought it. It was a well kept piece.
Glock got a variance from ATF to add the prefix to keep from having to issue new SNs on the upgrades, putting everyone in the position of essentially buying a new weapon and all the hassle (in some states) that is. - If you've got a 36 with a '1' you're cool. ;f - 'ole joe :cool:
LDHunter
08-06-2004, 22:51
OK... Thanks Joe....
$bob$
crazydave
08-07-2004, 07:40
I thought that a Mfg could re-issue the same s/n as long as they destroyed the original. Colt does this with replacing pre-ban AR15 receivers with new ones dont they?
Dave
Originally posted by LDHunter
OK... Thanks Joe....$bob$
Your welcome!
CrazyDave: I don't know anything about Colts handling of preban AR-15 receivers. ATF would not let Glock destroy the incoming Glock for upgrading and reissue the SN to the new one. To the best of my knowledge, new receivers require new SNs. Maybe Colt worked out a variance of some type. I just don't know and don't travel in those circles to find out. You probably know more about that than I. - 'ole joe :cool:
mini14jac
08-16-2004, 13:06
Well, KelTec routinely cuts a new frame with the old serial number and destroys the old frame.
I always figured that was SOP for gun makers.
Brooklyn South
08-16-2004, 22:24
I think that there is a provision in the law for a manufacturer to destroy a frame and make another one with the same serial number. S&W did this for a friend with a poorly functioning Model 60 many years ago. When he returned it to them for the third time, he told them to just keep it! They sent him a nice etter and said that they would replace the gun with another with the same serial number, it would just take some time to get it into their production schedule
Based on some reading over on the AR-15 Forum, I believe that Colt did replace a very limited number of pre-ban receivers, and was not inclined to do any more. Legal issues aside, it was just a lot of trouble for them from a production point of view. One/Some of the anti-gunners bashed them later for basically manufacturing pre-ban guns after the ban. They said that the intent of the lawmakers was that over time guns would become unservicable, and reduce the population of pre-ban guns for us to enjoy.
A potential issue with Glock is that the frames are/have not been made here, AFAIK. I guess they would have to destroy your bad frame here before they could import its replacement if they were going to use the same number on both.
Good shooting!
:) :) :) :)
Originally posted by Elmstreet
They point well, shoot well, are reliable and accurate. It takes a little practice to hold a group at 25 yards or shoot steel plates with one, due to the short barrel. Once you get used to it they are pretty decent little pistols. i thought they had 4" barrels
I realized yesterday that I was thinking of my SIG P-228 when I wrote that.
My Glock 36 (and all Glock 36s) has a 3.78" barrel.
http://www.glock.com/g36.htm
(Sorry! :) )
care-less
09-10-2004, 05:50
I believe it should be a 1-xxxxxxxx; at least mine has the one and a dash on it.
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