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CougarRed
08-21-2004, 09:54
I purchased the 11 oz 342PD in January for concealed carry and self-defense.

I guess I got one of the last ones, because I don't see the 342 on the S&W website anymore. The 340 is available, but why you would ever want to shoot a .357 out of an 11 oz gun is beyond me.

Since many self-defense situations occur at night, I wanted aid in night aim. After not finding a good night sight option, I decided to splurge on a laser.

The laser is helpful in all except the brightest lighting. In addition, the laser is theoretically quicker in target aquisition since the gun can be fired reliably from the hip if need be. Finally, the laser has another side benefit of intimidation - when the target notices the red dot on him.

I added the rubber overmolded CT LG-305 grips to the gun. I chose the larger grip over the LG-205 because I read the larger grips made the scandium gun much more tolerable to practice with. I am happy to report the articles were correct. Still not a "joy" to shoot, but bearable.

There is a small trade-off on concealability with the larger grip. But the 342 with the LG-305 grip conceals well in the pocket of the slacks I wear to work.

Turns out, S&W later offered the 642 (4 oz heavier) with the same overmolded CT grips. They also offer a night sight option too.

I have calibrated the laser at 30 feet. The laser sits an inch below the midpoint of the barrel, and half an inch to the right. I know that at targets closer than 30 feet, the laser will be pointing low and to the right of bullet entry. At targets greater than 30 feet, the laser will be pointing high and left of the point of entry. Since I doubt I will ever fire the gun at targets over 60 feet away, I am confident that my laser will be pointing within 1.25" of impact.

The only other way to calibrate is to make the laser parallel to the barrel. That way, the laser always points 1 inch low and 0.5 inch right of impact.

Crimson Trace
08-25-2004, 12:57
The rubber overmolded laser has been a big improvement for the new generation of "ultra-light" revolvers. Thanks for the review, Glad you like them...

CougarRed
08-25-2004, 20:30
To be honest, the laser is about the only thing keeping the S&W342 in the rotation.

If you ever developed one for my Kahr . . .

BTW, I have found that a point shooting grip with the thumb on top of the centennial frame helps reduce recoil a ton in the 342. See my "Eureka" post in the Wheelhouse forum.

Since the laser is the ultimate point shooting tool, I think either S&W or CT needs to inform the public about this recoil reducing way to grip the centennial gun.

Grey9551
08-31-2004, 22:13
I have a M649 357 that I shoot Corbon +p 38spl's out of and I use a Crimson overmold grip LG-305. I sighted it in at 18yrds and this thing is a tack driver. I liked it so much I put a set of crimson LG-306 on my 5" M625 and it drills the centers out at 25yrds.

The important part though is the point and shoot capability it gives you. If you point and shoot center mass the bad guy is going to be hurting. Not just sometimes but every time.

Crimson Laser Grips are the single best improvement for defensive handgun use in the last 20 years and it is just going to get better.

Gary

bubbygator
09-03-2004, 12:38
C'mon Grey, tell us what you really think. ;)

IMO, anyone that doesn't have a CT on a J-frame is missing the boat. Even if you are a "front-sight, front-sight, front-sight!!" guy, you would still benefit from training with a CT.

09-03-2004, 12:55
Does the CT blink or are they on solid?


Scott

Stopdropnroll
09-17-2004, 10:36
Crimson trace is a solid beam. (4 hours constant on)

Lasermax is blinking beam. (I beleive I heard 30 minutes or so)

The blinking beam is need to extend battery life... as Lasermax's battery chioces are limited by being small enough to fit inside the recoil rod, the "blinking beam" was nessesary to extend the constant on time....

Crimson Trace uses 2032 lithiums (much bigger) in the grips so no blinking is nessesary.

SDnR ;)

VN350X10
09-22-2004, 21:25
Add my $.02 here...
The gunshop/range that I used to work at had a "J" as one of the rental guns. Didn't do much renting untill we put the CT Lasergrips on it, & advertised that it was set up w/a laser. I personally sighted it using a sandbag setup for wrist support at 50' & then turned the customers loose with it. Most reaction was ""WOW"" we/he/she/it didn't know a snubby could shoot like that. It probably sold 20-30 "J" frames for us & at least 50 (!) sets of the grips.
It stayed in the rental pile untill the shop was sold, almost 5 years, with absoutely NO, NONE, NADA adjustment ever needed after initial sight in. It was sighted with the standard .38spl bullseye load of 2.7gr bullseye with a flush seated 148gr wadcutter. Basic formulae, nothing special(pun intended).
This kind of reliability IS safe to trust your life to.
note here....more than half of the grip sets were sold to LEO's, also requesting that I do the install & sight in. GOOD for business.

uncle albert