G19 trigger replacement

[Lt.Kubosh]

Hello,
I bought my first Glock yesterday. I have to say - I dislike Glock, it is ugly, with no safe lever and no hammer gun. From budget reasons I had to switch to the reliable, cheap 9mm gun, Glock wins in this category. (Till today I had HK USP .45Auto Compact)

I'm using the gun on the Israel style. (No ammo in the chamber, the slide is cycled while you need shoot) I have found that the "safe" on the trigger pi$$ me of very much. It punch me to the finger every shot.

It blocks nothing once you place the finger on the trigger, it is disengaged, so it is not "user fault" safety. (compared to the classic safe lever on the frame/slide)

Is there any aftermarket trigger without this idiot safe swung?

Thank you.

P.S. Please do not recommend me to keep this device in place, I'm the gun owner and I'm ready to be responsible for any accident with or without the safety, because while any accident happens it is NEVER the gun / safety fault, it is ALWAYS owner fault. I need to feel comfortable with my gun.

[gary newport]

You can lightly sand the front face of the trigger safety with sandpaper so that it lies flush with the trigger when depressed. This may make it more comfortable for you.

Incidentally, most of the folks in this forum, as well as a VERY large number of U.S. law enforcement agencies think the Glock has all the safeties (three) that it needs, and certainly does NOT need an obnoxious manual safety! The only "manual" safety needed is to keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire! Since the Glock is striker-fired, it obviously doesn't have (or need) a hammer. As to Israeli carry, most folks here think that it is a Bad Idea--if you need to shoot to save your life, cycling the slide may cost you the time needed to shoot to save your life!

As to whether Glocks are ugly, opinions differ. Personally, I LIKE the way they look.

[cygnus]

Originally posted by Lt.Kubosh
Hello,
I bought my first Glock yesterday. I have to say - I dislike Glock, it is ugly, with no safe lever and no hammer gun. From budget reasons I had to switch to the reliable, cheap 9mm gun, Glock wins in this category. (Till today I had HK USP .45Auto Compact)

Well hey, umm, welcome to the wonderful world of Glock! You can change the trigger if you really want, but this being your first Glock, I would suggest putting a few hundred rounds through it first, before you go and alter it. It may turn out that you get pretty used to the trigger and don't notice it. They also make a little device called the SAF-T-BLOK, which inserts right behind the trigger, it's about $15 bucks and may be worth it if you're still uncomfortable. Last case scenario, if you still 'dislike' your Glock, put it in the Want Ads section here on Glock Talk (what kind is it?) and use the money to go get another HK USP compact, this time in the less expensive 9mm caliber; decocking lever, manual safety, all the goods it sounds like you want. Shoot and carry what you're most comfortable with, whatever it is.

rock on

[ProfMoriarty]

I'm surprised you can even feel the safety when it's depressed.

Are you sure the discomfort isn't being caused by the grooves molded into the trigger?

[NIFT21]

this guy sounds like a wierdo

[gary newport]

Originally posted by ProfMoriarty
I'm surprised you can even feel the safety when it's depressed.

Are you sure the discomfort isn't being caused by the grooves molded into the trigger?

Some Glock trigger safeties protrude beyond the trigger face even when depressed. This calls for the judicious use of sandpaper. The serrations on "target" triggers are irritating to some of us; this calls for substituting a smooth-faced trigger. Lt. Kubosh didn't mention which Glock model he owned--and I don't know if Glock puts the annoying "target" trigger on European compacts and subcompacts--so I don't know if he has a serrated trigger.

[Spikenfritz]

Originally posted by ProfMoriarty
I'm surprised you can even feel the safety when it's depressed.

Are you sure the discomfort isn't being caused by the grooves molded into the trigger?

I have a '19 and '23, and I replaced the grooved trigger ASAP on both models with one with a smooth face, as I've previously experienced exactly the same problems listed above. Smooth sailing ever since. I think they go for $20 each. Try www.glockmeister.com. They may have 'em in stock. HTH.

Spike

[Lt.Kubosh]

Garry + Spikenfritz> Yes, you're true, I have something called "target" trigger, although I can not see reason why to place "target" trigger on cary / self defense gun...

I'll go the "smooth trigger" way with sandpaper use at the end (if encessary)

Thank you for reponses, they were worth.

[gary newport]

The "target" trigger gains import points, important for importing pistols into the U.S. I suppose Glock puts them on European models just to simplify production. I hate them! However, the smooth trigger for the the full-size small frame guns fit the compact and subcompact models, so you could put a G17 trigger on your gun.

Good luck with your Glock!! ;c

[Lt.Kubosh]

garry> Please can you say me more about "target" trigger import points? What, why?
Sounds very funny. :)

[gary newport]

Originally posted by Lt.Kubosh
garry> Please can you say me more about "target" trigger import points? What, why?
Sounds very funny. :)

As a result of one of our many (too many) federal "gun control" laws, handguns manufactured and imported from other countries must score a certain number of "import points" or they aren't allowed in this country. Points are awarded (or not), based on many different characteristics of the gun, including caliber (a 9mm scores more points than .380), size (bigger guns score more points than smaller ones), weight (heavier is better than lighter), type of sights (adjustable scores higher than fixed), and other features, including the presence or absense of "target" triggers and thumb rests.

Since Glocks are made in Austria, light-weight, and not all metal, they need to add some points. In fact, the G25 and G28 (.380) don't earn enough points to be imported for civilian sales in this country. By putting "target" triggers (the serrated kind) on compact and subcompact pistols, Glock offsets some of the points lost because of the smaller size of these pistols. Similarly, the thumb rest and finger grooves adds points for third generation Glocks of all sizes.

Does this make sense? Well, not much, but that's true of most "gun control" laws. ;g