New P2000 .40 LEM

[DonGlock26]

Well, I finally broke down and traded a few safe queens to get my P2000 .40 LEM. What a great pistol! The adjustible backstrap is awesome. Finally a double stack auto that fits.;f The recoil is like a 147gr 9mm.^c The grip is not checkered too much and NO fingergrooves! The trigger pull is a lil'light at5lbs. I may switch to 8lbs, because that's what I'm used to. I just need some hi-cap mags. Mepros are now availible for the P2000 pistols BTW.


Stay Safe,


Don

[JNB01]

Dg, if you switch to the 8-lb. trigger, please post your impressions.

What loads did you run through it?

[DonGlock26]

Originally posted by JNB01
Dg, if you switch to the 8-lb. trigger, please post your impressions.

What loads did you run through it?

Will do, Sir

I ran 150rnds of Winchester 165gr FMJ white box ammo and a few 180gr Golddots for function check. No problems what so ever. Ejection was very good. I LOVE this pistol. I'm looking for hi-caps, night sights, and a good paddle holster. My Glock tac light fits. I posted a range report for you in NGF.


Stay Safe,

Don

[JNB01]

Thanks Dg!

I've narrowed my choices down to 3 pistols.....the G26 with +3 mag extensions of course, the P2000, and Walther P99.

[DonGlock26]

Tough choice! I love my G-26, but the fingergroove and thumb rests annoy me. Maybe a robar treatment is in order. Good Luck.



Don

P.S. Here's my range report FWIW





"Well, I shot the P2000 and 442 today.

The P2000 .40 has the 4.5 LEM trigger. It was awesome. It reminded me of a smooth light DA S&W revolver trigger pull. I like the 4 backstraps sizes that come with this pistol(the XL and L sizes had soft rubber, the S and M didn't). I have a small hand, so I put on the small backstrap. The sights are steel and have 3 white dots. There is plenty of room between the front post and sides of the rear sight. I will get N.S. when Mepros or Trijicons make them. The finish is flat black, like early Glocks. The polymer frame feels harder than a Glock's polymer. I prefer the grip of the H&K over the 3rd gen Glock. There are no fingergrooves to get in my way. My Glock Tac light fits on the H&K which is very nice. The owners manual is excellent and full of info,photos, and detailed instructions.

I shot two types of .40 ammo. I used Winchester 165gr FMJ target ammo(150rnds) and I fired a few 180gr Golddots. The recoil was much easier to control than my old G-23 or P245(more like a 147gr 9mm). Part of that is because the grip fit me better and the recoil spring has a polymer buffer to dampen recoil. The slide is heavy duty and built like a tank, also aiding in recoil control. I really didn't notice much difference between the Golddots and Winchester loads.

Accuracy was very good at first with a few flyers as I got use to the trigger pull, the flyers went away. I am use to long DA pulls, so it wasn't a problem. I did better shoting with a thums forward grip than a thumb over thumb hold.

I shot a fist size group at 7yrds, a small coffee can lid size group at 15yrds, and a regular coffee can sized group at 25yrds(all free hand). This pistol is more accurate than I am. At the end of my shooting day, I shot a group at 7yrds using a smooth, brisk trigger pull and the group was 2" right between the eyes of the felon photo target! I was getting the hang of this.

There were no malfunctions and I don't know where the brass went, but it was no where near me. I'm very glad, I bought this pistol. I wanted a CCW/HD pistol, and I think I have finally found a double-stacked mag auto pistol that fits me. It's a keeper. I read alot about this pistol, and the only negative is the price. But, I traded in 2 safe queen pistols, and this one is going to do the job of two pistols. So, I don't feel ripped off in the least. I would suggest trying the trigger out first before buying. If you like a S&W or Sig DA smooth trigger pull, then this is your pistol. All I need is N.S. and leather.

I also shot my 442. The accuracy was ok, but recoil was sharp with .38+P golddots. It felt like a .357 mag. That's fine because I bought this snubby to be shot a little and carried alot. I just need some more range time with it. I wish I was more web savvy and had a digital camera so I could post some pics. I hope this range report helps.

Stay Safe,

Don"

[JNB01]

Tough choice indeed!

One of the reasons I am considering the G26, is that it is smaller than the P2000, but the bbl. lengths are pretty close. The +3 extension will help with the stubby grip, but hopefully the fingergrooves and thumbrest don't prove bothersome, they aren't on the G19.

The P99 interests me because I could carry it DA, or rack the slide and not decock and have a somewhat glock-like trigger from what I gather. I also like the ergos and backstrap inserts, in addition to the trigger having an extremely short reset.

The P2000 just looks cool, it also has the backstraps of course, and the LEM trigger seems like it would be to my liking. My carry and HD Glock is fitted with a NY1 trigger, hence why I'm interested in the 8-lb. LEM.

Thanks again Dg....and good report!

[ScotsIrishCop]

What is the LEM trigger like in regards to the Glock trigger as far as length of trigger pull and also weight of trigger pull? Also, with the Glock as we all know, you have some slack take up until you catch the link and pull through it to fire. Is the LEM like that Glock trigger or is more like a light DA where you really just pull and pull until the hammer falls without you actually knowing exactly when it will fall?

[Clockwork]

The glock has a shorter pull and reset. The pull on the LEM is not consistent all the way through. There is a light take up then it gets heavy just before it breaks. Once you pull through the light take up the pull is more like a single action with a crisp break. After some practice you should know when the hammer will drop. Also, you don't have to let the trigger all the way out for the reset, again it is like a single action with a short reset although maybe not as short as the glock.
The weight of the pull can vary depending on variant, between 5 to 8 pounds, but like I said the take up is light, very light.

[ScotsIrishCop]

Clockwork:

Ok, thanks for the information on the LEM. Now, I have one more question for you. How is the Sig DAK in relation to the LEM regarding my previous posted question? Thanks again.

[Clockwork]

ScotIrishCop,
Sorry, but I have no experience with the DAK.

I would also like to hear what anyone else has to say about the DAK....