Debriefing Of The Interactive Gunfighting class in Las Vegas

[SUAREZ INTL]

A Debriefing Of The Interactive Gunfighting class in Las Vegas

http://www.suarezinternational.com/igfdebriefing.html

[MARTIN FISHER]

Gabe,
All I can say is, it's about time there was someone putting the fight into gunfighting.
And, give me another year and I'll have my finances in order to make the class.;)

[COBRA90GT]

Interesting write-up, good read. ^c

[clubsoda22]

Gabe, we have to get you up in PA for a course like this. Over the summer Tactical Responce was up here and sold out two 2 day pistol courses in a row. I was in attendence and they were great courses. It would be great to get some other instructors like yourself to come to the area.

I remember that you used to offer a course almost yearly at The Responsible Shooter in Marcus Hook. I was thinking of taking it until it closed and David DiFabio dissappeared off the face of the earth.

[kestrou]

OK - I'm in! - When's the next class? ;f

Edited to add: I don't see "Interactive" in the course schedule. Is this really "Close Range" or "Close Range 2"?

kestrou

[clubsoda22]

it appears to be CRG 2 since CRG 1 does not require an airsoft pistol. Gabe can correct me if i'm wrong.

[SUAREZ INTL]

Gents,

Its under Interactive Gunfighting. Here are the dates and locations for 2005.

May 28-29 Thurmont, MD
July 23-24 Oahu, Hawaii
August 5-7 Memphis, TN
October 8-9 Los Angeles, CA
November 12-13 Las Vegas, NV

http://www.suarezinternational.com/interactivegunfight.html

[Sweatnbullets]

This was a very good course. If you want to know how to fight, this is the course for you. We worked a lot of real world CCW encounters and explored how to win.

This is a very dynamic course and I would suggest that you get real comfortable drawing and shooting on the move. I when I talk about movement, I'm not taking about back peddeling or side stepping. This is a very aggressive course that teaches you to act first and go on the attack.

BTW that's me in the white going up against three adversaries. Gabe is not exaggerating the outcome of that encounter. I killed all three before they got a shot off. After learning from Gabe, how to do it, you will be able to do it also. NO PROBLEM!

I am just a student like you guys and have no connection with Gabe. If you have any questions on the course, I would be happy to answer them.

There is a very high skill level student base in Vegas. Many of these guys have 40+ courses under their belts. This was training to the highest common denominator.

[9millie]

Originally posted by Sweatnbullets
This was a very good course. If you want to know how to fight, this is the course for you. We worked a lot of real world CCW encounters and explored how to win.

This is a very dynamic course and I would suggest that you get real comfortable drawing and shooting on the move. I when I talk about movement, I'm not taking about back peddeling or side stepping. This is a very aggressive course that teaches you to act first and go on the attack.

BTW that's me in the white going up against three adversaries. Gabe is not exaggerating the outcome of that encounter. I killed all three before they got a shot off. After learning from Gabe, how to do it, you will be able to do it also. NO PROBLEM!

I am just a student like you guys and have no connection with Gabe. If you have any questions on the course, I would be happy to answer them.

There is a very high skill level student base in Vegas. Many of these guys have 40+ courses under their belts. This was training to the highest common denominator.
Let me ask you a question:
How did the aimed fire vs. point shooting debate hold up in this class?
Did you use one over the other or both?
How well did each theory work under stress?

[CarlosDJackal]

My buddy and I are already planning on attending the Thurmont class next May (unless something comes up before then and prevents it).

I wish I could attend one sooner. ^c

[SUAREZ INTL]

9 millie,

"Let me ask you a question:
How did the aimed fire vs. point shooting debate hold up in this class?
Did you use one over the other or both?
How well did each theory work under stress?"


In truth, nobody worried about it. Attending students already had the ability to hit. I told them to see what they needed to see to make the hits and that I didn't care if they did back flips and shot with their toes as long as they hit.

We set up drills, and then debriefed, we ran through scenarios and debriefed. If you missed, we could all tell. There were no cry-babies whining about their pet techniques. I told everyone that egoes got locked up in the car and were there to be better fighters. The spirit kept up during the class.

There was one contraversy about backpeddaling and running backwards to gain distance as opposed to zoning to an angle and aggressing. No need to argue, let's shoot it. A picture of the knifeman at kissing distance as the backpeddaler got off his first shot was a settlement of the contraversy for everyone. THAT is the spirit of Interactive Training.

As far as the debriefings about sights, many of these guys are CRG grads. Debriefing on what they saw ranged from: "The Target Only", "Meat and Metal (a term from CRG signifying seeing the gun surrounded by the bad guys chest), all the way to Sweatnbullet's moving head shot on a hostage taker (Full Front Sight).

When you train in this class everything finds its proper balance.

The controversies about stances, and sights, and schools, and calibers were put in their proper place. The trash can.

Gabe Suarez
Suarez International USA
http://www.suarezinternational.com/igfdebriefing.html
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[Sweatnbullets]

"Let me ask you a question:
How did the aimed fire vs. point shooting debate hold up in this class?
Did you use one over the other or both?
How well did each theory work under stress?"


Hey 9, Good question.

Let me tell you first that I was trained as a sights guy. But I have a very open mind and I have a steadfast belief in the "Sight continuum" or as Gabe says "see what you need to see."

As one other student in the course said, My debrief on the hostage taker, while moving was the only time he heard that anyone was using a hard focus on the front sight."

My technique ranged along the entire spectrum of the sight continuum, depending on distance of the adversary, the urgency of the situation, and the speed of the movement that was being deployed. All of these adjustments were done with zero concious thought.

The speed of movement in this class is really the deciding factor of the sighting method. As you can see from the photos, getting off of the line of attack was done at "sprinting" speed. After you got off the line of attack, the speed while shooting ranged from a "duck walk" all the way to a controlled run. At these speeds you find that even the most hard core sights guys soon abandon their dogmatics. I know this because I was one of those sights guys along with five or six other sights guys in this course, that I have trained with on a regular basis.

Stress did not effect the hits. We were stressed the entire course and even the less experienced shooters were getting their hits.

See what you need to see and move as you need to move. Everything else just works itself out.